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I was not expecting to see Hakim Ziyech joining the Saudi teams because he can still have good performance in the European teams. Hakim Ziyech is just 30 and he could play there for at least 2 or 3 more years. However, Ziyech is going to have 12-13 million per year from Al Nasr which is a good amount of salary for a player like him to have a bad season at Chelsea.

Because the condition that Ziyech is currently facing is that Chelsea are looking to build their team from scratch, so they have chosen to sell quite a number of players who may not be deemed in accordance with what they are trying to build. It seems that Chelsea will only retain young players, last season was a nightmare for all Chelsea players so it also affected the players including Ziyech because last season he only played 18 times without a goal and only made 3 assists.
Hakim Ziyech at Al Nassr will get a portion of playing as a main player because it will be a waste of money if he is only on the bench, by playing as a main player he still has the chance to restore his career which had dimmed last season due to the fate of his club, and the most enjoyable is his salary at Al Nassr is several million dollars more than he is used to at Chelsea.

Hakim Ziyech's move to Saudi Arabia was very surprising to me because of the footballing qualities he possesses as a right forward player. Though Ziyech didn't have a good season to remember last last season and that's because of the fact that Chelsea as club was very poor and the two managers that managed the club last season wasn't seeing Ziyech as their preferred regular player but that still doesn't change the fact that he's world class just as we all saw his performance with his national team Morocco in last year's FIFA World Cup tournament.
The high financial wages that comes with playing in the Saudi Arabian League I think is somehow affecting quality football. I initially thought that it was for veteran European players who were nearing the end of their career but with the recent happenings, football might lose it's relevance if FIFA continues to allow clubs and leagues to buy success with money

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Al Nassr has been targeting Brozovic from Intermilan, but Brozovic has not yet agreed to join Nassr due to salary issues, so Nassr is now getting a new target while waiting for an answer from brozovic and intermilan. It's RB lens's captain seko fofana who has been targeted by al nassr to be bought by the club this season.

It has been confirmed by a lot of reliable sources that if al nassr is trying to approach him to join in the club and play together with cristiano ronaldo. Lens is now in talk with al nassr regarding seko fofana's transfer.

It seems like that if this gonna be another interesting deal for lens. The fees to get him has not been revealed by lens. I think that lens was also putting high price for seko fofana.

Al nassr is moving as fast as possible to get european players as many as possible.

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Till the next season of Saudi Arabia Pro League starts the players hunt will continue. This have led to the statement that the league is buying success with money that doesn't sustain in the long run. The team wants top 100 soccer players into the league within the next few seasons of Saudi Arabia Pro League to make it one among the leading leagues played around the world.

How is it possible to bring in 100 players while the club that is active in bringing in star players is only 3-4 clubs and almost all of these clubs are owned by the same company, I think it's just an unbelievable rumor. If we talk for the next few seasons, I still doubt because we have not seen the impact of the arrival of these new players except related to popularity I mean if it does not bring financial benefits then it will not last long, we have seen phenomena like this before in other countries.

Surely there are few concerns about this but still all is possible because right now most of the clubs are controlled by few companies and after having few good seasons then we will have more changes which will bring new managements and better rules as well right now things are going just for their campaign of world cup 2030 and for this money is not problem because right now their target is just had this event in their country at any cost.

After this all they need to work on quality and performance as well because for the fan's attraction these things are important otherwise we will have no financial and domestic success right now with this all they also need to work on academies as well which will also create good image of this league around the world, and they will be able to attract youths from the world.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 28, 2023, 12:25:10 PM

I was not expecting to see Hakim Ziyech joining the Saudi teams because he can still have good performance in the European teams. Hakim Ziyech is just 30 and he could play there for at least 2 or 3 more years. However, Ziyech is going to have 12-13 million per year from Al Nasr which is a good amount of salary for a player like him to have a bad season at Chelsea.

Because the condition that Ziyech is currently facing is that Chelsea are looking to build their team from scratch, so they have chosen to sell quite a number of players who may not be deemed in accordance with what they are trying to build. It seems that Chelsea will only retain young players, last season was a nightmare for all Chelsea players so it also affected the players including Ziyech because last season he only played 18 times without a goal and only made 3 assists.
Hakim Ziyech at Al Nassr will get a portion of playing as a main player because it will be a waste of money if he is only on the bench, by playing as a main player he still has the chance to restore his career which had dimmed last season due to the fate of his club, and the most enjoyable is his salary at Al Nassr is several million dollars more than he is used to at Chelsea.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 28, 2023, 12:25:10 PM

I was not expecting to see Hakim Ziyech joining the Saudi teams because he can still have good performance in the European teams. Hakim Ziyech is just 30 and he could play there for at least 2 or 3 more years. However, Ziyech is going to have 12-13 million per year from Al Nasr which is a good amount of salary for a player like him to have a bad season at Chelsea.

Since there are no lots of demands for him and it's not a problem for ziyech to play in arabian league at this moment. As long as ziyech is happy with it and there's no problem that must be worried anymore. He will be happy to playing in saudi league. he is not alone there caused by there will be brozovic and cristiano ronaldo will come to the al nassr. it's a very good decision to make it happen. Ziyech will able to play with less pressures but more salary which has become the dream for any football players in the world.
It would be so stupid if ziyech was rejecting saudi's offer instead of take it. Im very glad ziyech was not taking the wrong decision by rejecting saudi's offer.
Im sure he will be happy playing there.

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Quote from: jostorres on June 28, 2023, 12:30:40 PM

I think you are also missing many things in this with only ranking amount no counts clubs also having sponsorships TV rights with gate-money and other ads as well which are helpful for them to have things in well-balanced and after this all ranking amount and others are also given them good benefit realistically Saudi Arab is new market for the soccer with having good potential for the crowd and media rights as well.

Currently, mostly funds are coming through government which are trying to bring soft-corner of this country and also having their own agenda of bringing good support for their campaign of 2030 soccer world cup.

They also have good influence in many countries and their experience and tactics are surely going to give them good return of their investment because recently they are doing good things for the change in this kingdom.

Well it is true that at this point most of the fund inflow for the Saudi Professional League originates from the Saudi government. But as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, the TV revenue has gone up substantially and the viewership for SPL matches are now at a comparable level with European leagues. And regarding sponsorship and gate collection, let's not forget the fact that Saudi Arabia is one of the richest countries in the middle east. Once the league gets popular across the world, the clubs will face no difficulty in getting sponsorship deals.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 28, 2023, 06:03:40 PM

Édouard Osoque Mendy is the next player he officialy jonied the Arabian teams. He signed the contract to join Al Ahli until 2026. This goalkeeper is another player from Europa who joined the Saudi team from Chelsea. In the last weeks, Chelsea lost many players and they mostly joined the Arabian team for earning more money mostly because they are unable to have good performances anymore.

Losing Edouard Mendy to Saudi, it doesn't shake the club, because the goal keeper was not in good shape due to injuries. Chelsea isn't just about the money; they know exactly what they're doing by releasing players, particularly those who don't want to play for the club, and I'm glad that the club is releasing such a large number of players to Saudi clubs with the goal to make amends for the substantial transfer they made that didn't produce any solid results. Todd Boehly will add more players to the club, and this time he should make meaningful additions, not average players with no personal confidence, but rather top high-class players, most likely huge names with a decent taste of top competitions and extensive experience in the game.

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But don't forget that usually not all teams get the same amount, ranking in the standings generally get more money like in the Premier League
for example 50% income will be distributed to all participants 25% will be distributed by standings and 25% for each match maybe SPL uses the same concept
Of course it's not fair if some teams spend more money but get the same amount at least there must be a difference.

The amount of money that a club can get from the league that they follow depends on what position the club itself is in in the standings so that a club that can reach the top of the standings until the end of the season can get a large amount of money and can be used to make several player transfers needed.
If the number of distributions is only equal then no club will fight each other for the top position.
SPL is a league that has a very large amount of money and several Saudi teams have managed to get players at very large prices because they are also supported by the amount of money generated from the SPL.

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Édouard Osoque Mendy is the next player he officialy jonied the Arabian teams. He signed the contract to join Al Ahli until 2026. This goalkeeper is another player from Europa who joined the Saudi team from Chelsea. In the last weeks, Chelsea lost many players and they mostly joined the Arabian team for earning more money mostly because they are unable to have good performances anymore.

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It seems that the recruitment of up to 100 European football players will not materialize in the next few years unless all the teams in the Saudi league also do the same as what Al-Nassr, Al-Ittihad, Al-Hilal, and Al-Ahli have done because we I know very well that only the four teams above are able to provide that much salary.

Maybe the dream of bringing in these star players should be appreciated to advance the Saudi league or for other investments, but for now even in the next 5 years it's quite impossible. Regardless of all that, with the arrival of other European players or coaches who will join the Saudi league team, the attention of the whole world is now on Arabs and can't wait to see if they can be consistent or not later.

It is impossible to bring in 100 of Europe's top players in the transfer market this season and next season. What's more, as you said, those who are most hunting for European players are only the 4 teams that are under the auspices of PIF. which PIF certainly has very large finances that can support the 4 clubs to spend quite a lot. But in the current transfer market, there are actually quite a lot of players joining SPL clubs. but there are too many of them. but still, the presence of Benzema at Al-Ittihad and CR7 at Al-Nassr has become an extraordinary attraction for us not to want to miss the Arab league. I really want to see how Al-Nassr will deal with Al-ittihad. The meeting of the two players who used to be partners at Real Madrid will certainly make an interesting impression on the match.

But it is possible that these transfer activities stimulate more business potential domestically but also internationally. Sure the salaries are too high to pay off in sales of merchandise or stadium tickets, but they follow a vision, an agenda and although I can't fully understand what their goal is also in terms of finances and business, I believe they are not doing it to only burn money. They might be doing all of this to kick off a positive dynamic for their league although they are currently spoiling players with those unreal salary expectations. Players will soon say "no" to 40 million per year because it sounds like not enough.

It's that simple, they are not stupid to pay that kind of money, and for someone to even change the law so that they can sell a player at a higher price. It's just a PR campaign, nothing more. Attract a lot of players, pay them a lot of money so that they stay in this league as long as possible and attract other players. Even if they don't attract other players, they will attract a lot of attention to their league

For now they attract the attention but if they want people to stick around they will need to bring in new players continuously or otherwise the positive effect will decrease. but the question is whether this PR campaign is done because of their World Cup application 2030 or whether their plan is to really build the best league in the world with the money they have and pull away the public audiences from other continents in the world. But that would need tremendous resources over a long period of time and for now it is not clear if all their activities serve a plan that goes beyond the World Cup.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on June 28, 2023, 11:34:21 AM

Two notable transfers from Europe to the Saudi League are Ronaldo and Karim Benzema. However, these two stars joined the Saudi League towards the end of their careers. But apart from these two stars, many other European stars were offered huge sums of money to play in the Saudi League but many rejected it. For example, Lionel Messi was offered a huge amount of money by the Saudi League but Messi did not go there instead he went to the United States. On the other hand, Neymar is being offered by the Saudi League, but Neymar has clearly stated that he wants to play at the highest level of football until 2026, that is, he is not willing to leave Europe until 2026. Because some players focus on their career and not money.

There are many top European players who have agreed to join Arab clubs and this is not too surprising. The Arab Proo League has developed as a new business field for most investors, the impact is good but it can throw the transfer market into chaos. There are a lot of players who are interested in playing there because of the high wages, but sometimes they have to be realistic enough about their league ranking when they still want to play in Europe.

So far Chelsea have managed to sell some of their players to Arab clubs, and it is possible that more players will be there in each open transfer. So even if Neymar still wants to be in Europe at the moment, it is possible he will instead opt for the Arab Pro League for his footballing career.

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It seems that the recruitment of up to 100 European football players will not materialize in the next few years unless all the teams in the Saudi league also do the same as what Al-Nassr, Al-Ittihad, Al-Hilal, and Al-Ahli have done because we I know very well that only the four teams above are able to provide that much salary.

Maybe the dream of bringing in these star players should be appreciated to advance the Saudi league or for other investments, but for now even in the next 5 years it's quite impossible. Regardless of all that, with the arrival of other European players or coaches who will join the Saudi league team, the attention of the whole world is now on Arabs and can't wait to see if they can be consistent or not later.

It is impossible to bring in 100 of Europe's top players in the transfer market this season and next season. What's more, as you said, those who are most hunting for European players are only the 4 teams that are under the auspices of PIF. which PIF certainly has very large finances that can support the 4 clubs to spend quite a lot. But in the current transfer market, there are actually quite a lot of players joining SPL clubs. but there are too many of them. but still, the presence of Benzema at Al-Ittihad and CR7 at Al-Nassr has become an extraordinary attraction for us not to want to miss the Arab league. I really want to see how Al-Nassr will deal with Al-ittihad. The meeting of the two players who used to be partners at Real Madrid will certainly make an interesting impression on the match.

But it is possible that these transfer activities stimulate more business potential domestically but also internationally. Sure the salaries are too high to pay off in sales of merchandise or stadium tickets, but they follow a vision, an agenda and although I can't fully understand what their goal is also in terms of finances and business, I believe they are not doing it to only burn money. They might be doing all of this to kick off a positive dynamic for their league although they are currently spoiling players with those unreal salary expectations. Players will soon say "no" to 40 million per year because it sounds like not enough.

It's that simple, they are not stupid to pay that kind of money, and for someone to even change the law so that they can sell a player at a higher price. It's just a PR campaign, nothing more. Attract a lot of players, pay them a lot of money so that they stay in this league as long as possible and attract other players. Even if they don't attract other players, they will attract a lot of attention to their league

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Quote from: zuzie on June 28, 2023, 11:03:41 AM

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Don't underestimate the other teams. The popularity of Saudi Professional League has increased by leaps and bounds during the last few months. For the next cycle, we can expect a large increase in TV rights sales and sponsorship deals. And a part of this money will trickle down to the clubs. Not just the top-4 (which are 75% owned by the Public Investment Fund), but also the other clubs will be having a lot of disposable money in their hand. And also, some of these clubs are already under the ownership of very rich people.

But don't forget that usually not all teams get the same amount, ranking in the standings generally get more money like in the Premier League
for example 50% income will be distributed to all participants 25% will be distributed by standings and 25% for each match maybe SPL uses the same concept
Of course it's not fair if some teams spend more money but get the same amount at least there must be a difference.

I think you are also missing many things in this with only ranking amount no counts clubs also having sponsorships TV rights with gate-money and other ads as well which are helpful for them to have things in well-balanced and after this all ranking amount and others are also given them good benefit realistically Saudi Arab is new market for the soccer with having good potential for the crowd and media rights as well.

Currently, mostly funds are coming through government which are trying to bring soft-corner of this country and also having their own agenda of bringing good support for their campaign of 2030 soccer world cup.

They also have good influence in many countries and their experience and tactics are surely going to give them good return of their investment because recently they are doing good things for the change in this kingdom.

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I was not expecting to see Hakim Ziyech joining the Saudi teams because he can still have good performance in the European teams. Hakim Ziyech is just 30 and he could play there for at least 2 or 3 more years. However, Ziyech is going to have 12-13 million per year from Al Nasr which is a good amount of salary for a player like him to have a bad season at Chelsea.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 27, 2023, 01:26:00 PM

It is not always about the money neither. Modric will make about 20 million euro per year with his new contract and he was offered 200 million a year and yet he rejected it, and that's at 38 years old as well when he should be taking the last big payment of his life. On the other hand Benzema was offered the same and yet he declined and accepted the huge amount of money that he was offered as well.

It means that some players do prefer to go to Saudi Arabian league for the money and some players don't, it depends from person to person. This means that Brozovic could be either, if he wants to take the money then he should obviously go to Al-Nassr, if he wants to play in Europe a bit longer than he should be accepting the Barcelona offer instead.

Two notable transfers from Europe to the Saudi League are Ronaldo and Karim Benzema. However, these two stars joined the Saudi League towards the end of their careers. But apart from these two stars, many other European stars were offered huge sums of money to play in the Saudi League but many rejected it. For example, Lionel Messi was offered a huge amount of money by the Saudi League but Messi did not go there instead he went to the United States. On the other hand, Neymar is being offered by the Saudi League, but Neymar has clearly stated that he wants to play at the highest level of football until 2026, that is, he is not willing to leave Europe until 2026. Because some players focus on their career and not money.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 28, 2023, 02:37:53 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on June 28, 2023, 12:08:59 AM

It seems that the recruitment of up to 100 European football players will not materialize in the next few years unless all the teams in the Saudi league also do the same as what Al-Nassr, Al-Ittihad, Al-Hilal, and Al-Ahli have done because we I know very well that only the four teams above are able to provide that much salary.
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Don't underestimate the other teams. The popularity of Saudi Professional League has increased by leaps and bounds during the last few months. For the next cycle, we can expect a large increase in TV rights sales and sponsorship deals. And a part of this money will trickle down to the clubs. Not just the top-4 (which are 75% owned by the Public Investment Fund), but also the other clubs will be having a lot of disposable money in their hand. And also, some of these clubs are already under the ownership of very rich people.

This point is missing by peoples because they are not understanding now these Arabs are having well experienced minds and sources as well which will bring them quickly on their footsteps currently they are bringing as many top players after this surely things will increase like we have after arrival of Ronaldo and now as they will be recruited dozens of players things could much different.

Currently, they have few companies those are responsible for the control after this we will have another phase and this will bring more money as clubs will be gone into many hands as well with this their main attraction point is world cup which will bring more changes and too much attraction from around the world in this country.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 28, 2023, 02:37:53 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on June 28, 2023, 12:08:59 AM

It seems that the recruitment of up to 100 European football players will not materialize in the next few years unless all the teams in the Saudi league also do the same as what Al-Nassr, Al-Ittihad, Al-Hilal, and Al-Ahli have done because we I know very well that only the four teams above are able to provide that much salary.
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Don't underestimate the other teams. The popularity of Saudi Professional League has increased by leaps and bounds during the last few months. For the next cycle, we can expect a large increase in TV rights sales and sponsorship deals. And a part of this money will trickle down to the clubs. Not just the top-4 (which are 75% owned by the Public Investment Fund), but also the other clubs will be having a lot of disposable money in their hand. And also, some of these clubs are already under the ownership of very rich people.

But don't forget that usually not all teams get the same amount, ranking in the standings generally get more money like in the Premier League
for example 50% income will be distributed to all participants 25% will be distributed by standings and 25% for each match maybe SPL uses the same concept
Of course it's not fair if some teams spend more money but get the same amount at least there must be a difference.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on June 27, 2023, 12:24:49 PM

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At this moment joining and playing in the Saudi Professional League is not something bad, so there is nothing wrong for those who play in the Saudi Professional League next season. After all, not only Al-Nassr has star players from Europe, because Al-Ittihad and Al-Hilal are doing the same thing too, because they also recruit famous players from big European clubs. Therefore, the competition in the Saudi Professional League next season will certainly be very interesting, because star players will compete for the title and also, some of them will become teammates.

It's not bad that the salary there is also promising for a player plus the many star players who arrive so much not only for one club but several clubs also bring in other players.
Today's hot news Franck Kessié will soon be offered by the Saudi Arab team but don't know which team will make the offer. It looks like this will be even more interesting if many European players move to the Saudi Professional League, I can't imagine how the SPL league season will be at first it was amazing.

Just a bit of Franck Kessie's news: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1673725572273389584

Franck Kessié is a useless player at Barcelona and when he was transfered from AC Milan to Barcelona with free transfer Xavi was hopes he can performing well just like when he playing at Milan but during last season his performance was make Xavi dissapoint and after Gundogan arrived i am sure Kessie will spend his time on the bench because more likely Xavi will trust Gundogan than him although Kessie said he want to staying at Barcelona but the fact is Barcelona want this player to leave so this is good chances for Barcelona to sell him and Kessie too although his main priority is want to staying at Barcelona but he would open his mind to listen the offers from Arabian team and if he feel it reasonable for him then probably Kessie will considering that offers and recently Arabian team who want him was mentioned and that team is Al Ahli

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 28, 2023, 02:37:53 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on June 28, 2023, 12:08:59 AM

It seems that the recruitment of up to 100 European football players will not materialize in the next few years unless all the teams in the Saudi league also do the same as what Al-Nassr, Al-Ittihad, Al-Hilal, and Al-Ahli have done because we I know very well that only the four teams above are able to provide that much salary.
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Don't underestimate the other teams. The popularity of Saudi Professional League has increased by leaps and bounds during the last few months. For the next cycle, we can expect a large increase in TV rights sales and sponsorship deals. And a part of this money will trickle down to the clubs. Not just the top-4 (which are 75% owned by the Public Investment Fund), but also the other clubs will be having a lot of disposable money in their hand. And also, some of these clubs are already under the ownership of very rich people.

I'm not underestimating the saudi league team, it's just that it's quite difficult to achieve in a few years, wasn't it clear from my previous statement?

Maybe it is true that there will be income in terms of selling TV rights and sponsorship deals, but still other star players will of course still choose the four teams from the Saudi league because of course the quality and standings competition in each season always involve several of these teams, so it will be easier too for European players if anyone targets to win the SPL title. On the other hand, so far European players are sure to prefer a team with other European players in one place rather than having to join a team with no European players.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 28, 2023, 12:08:59 AM

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 27, 2023, 03:22:53 PM

It seems the Saudi teams are still trying to hire more superstar players and coaches for their teams, and again Al Hilal is seeking to sign a contract with Paulo Fonseca for next season but they need to have some negotiations with PSG. That's why Fahad bin Nafil will visit France and try to hire Paulo Fonseca.

https://au.topnews.media/2023/06/23/paulo-fonseca-can-lead-al-hilal-media-nv/

Till the next season of Saudi Arabia Pro League starts the players hunt will continue. This have led to the statement that the league is buying success with money that doesn't sustain in the long run. The team wants top 100 soccer players into the league within the next few seasons of Saudi Arabia Pro League to make it one among the leading leagues played around the world.

It seems that the recruitment of up to 100 European football players will not materialize in the next few years unless all the teams in the Saudi league also do the same as what Al-Nassr, Al-Ittihad, Al-Hilal, and Al-Ahli have done because we I know very well that only the four teams above are able to provide that much salary.

Maybe the dream of bringing in these star players should be appreciated to advance the Saudi league or for other investments, but for now, even in the next 5 years it's quite impossible. Regardless of all that, with the arrival of other European players or coaches who will join the Saudi league team, the attention of the whole world is now on Arabs and can't wait to see if they can be consistent or not later.

It will be a good development if only other nations continue accepting their proposals and contracts. But building a league to the high of best among the best requires more than importation from other leagues. Europe's football stands the best to date not only by importing from other leagues across the globe but also by recruiting the young ones and establishing new football academics that are wwell-equippedand conducive for sport. I think if the Saudi Arabia government can adopt this idea, it will promote their football both at the club and National level.

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