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Topic: SCAM - Coinabul owe me 81btc - page 11. (Read 61619 times)

hero member
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April 05, 2013, 04:17:59 PM
Have you guys asked to cancel your orders and get refunds?
hero member
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April 05, 2013, 12:00:41 PM
Update time since it has been 3 weeks since Jay's post.

I received an email on March 30 from Jay advising that his shipping staff will ship my silver 'when they have extra time'. They are apparently very busy at the moment and my order is low priority.

Will update on further info.

If your order priority is low that means you're just the tip of the iceberg.
newbie
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April 05, 2013, 08:22:36 AM
Update time since it has been 3 weeks since Jay's post.

I received an email on March 30 from Jay advising that his shipping staff will ship my silver 'when they have extra time'. They are apparently very busy at the moment and my order is low priority.

Will update on further info.
donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
April 04, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
Let's see if this is legit or a scam.  I placed an order for 1 coin from their website.

Sent the bitcoins in.  Got the email confirmation of the order.  Called both numbers several time, left voice mails.  no returned phone call.

Sent an email asking for shipping status.

No responses yet.

It is almost 9pm in Wyoming. When did you call the numbers?
5:30 and 7:30 PM CST
legendary
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Democracy is vulnerable to a 51% attack.
April 04, 2013, 10:43:41 PM
Perhaps I define "scam" more narrowly than others here, but to me, for something to be a scam, it has to be intentional. If you try to enter an agreement with someone and events occur which prevents one party from upholding their end of the bargian, or if someone make a mistake and accepts more orders than they can process quickly, or even if they just forget, it's not a scam, it's just bad business. Of course "bad business" might deserve a tag on here as well, as it is just as important to warn others about.
Say a person offers a $1 million meteor strike insurance policy for $15. He figures the odds he'll need to pay out are near zero and he'd like to have $15. He expect to be able to keep his end of the bargain simply by doing nothing. If he takes the $15, a meteor strikes, and he says, "Damn, I never expected that to happen. Sorry I can't make good. I don't have a million dollars." is he a scammer?

We don't have 100 different tags on this forum for the various ways a person can fail to make good. We generally do reserve scammer tags for intentional or quasi-intentional fraud. But a genuine hope that you'd get lucky and risks not materialize won't save you if you knowingly or negligently incur risk and are unable to do what you promised.

There are many examples of people who have scammer tags despite evidence suggesting they expected to be able to do what they had promised to do. All the people who borrowed money to invest in Pirate likely expected they'd be able to pay back their loans from profits and then pocket the principal plus more interest.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
April 04, 2013, 10:38:15 PM
Let's see if this is legit or a scam.  I placed an order for 1 coin from their website.

Sent the bitcoins in.  Got the email confirmation of the order.  Called both numbers several time, left voice mails.  no returned phone call.

Sent an email asking for shipping status.

No responses yet.

It is almost 9pm in Wyoming. When did you call the numbers?
donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
April 04, 2013, 10:00:13 PM
Let's see if this is legit or a scam.  I placed an order for 1 coin from their website.

Sent the bitcoins in.  Got the email confirmation of the order.  Called both numbers several time, left voice mails.  no returned phone call.

Sent an email asking for shipping status.

No responses yet.
hero member
Activity: 675
Merit: 502
April 03, 2013, 10:32:13 AM
After numerous calls and finally a demand for a refund, I just got a tracking number for an order I placed 8 days ago. I will update when it arrives.

I am on 15 days since my order was placed and I still have a "processing" status.  I have sent 4 emails and received one response saying the order would "most likely" be shipped by the end of the week.  What is the phone number you called?  I haven't tried that yet.  

In your first "Thank you for your order" email you got after placing the order, there should be a 213 area code phone number, and a 312 area code phone number.

Also, try demanding your Bitcoins back if the order takes too long.

After numerous calls and finally a demand for a refund, I just got a tracking number for an order I placed 8 days ago. I will update when it arrives.

Order received, and all is good. Coinabul, while maybe they are a bit slow to respond, is decidedly not a scam.

Clearly they are. You just happened go be on the lucky side.

Perhaps I define "scam" more narrowly than others here, but to me, for something to be a scam, it has to be intentional. If you try to enter an agreement with someone and events occur which prevents one party from upholding their end of the bargian, or if someone make a mistake and accepts more orders than they can process quickly, or even if they just forget, it's not a scam, it's just bad business. Of course "bad business" might deserve a tag on here as well, as it is just as important to warn others about.
full member
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April 03, 2013, 10:24:05 AM
After numerous calls and finally a demand for a refund, I just got a tracking number for an order I placed 8 days ago. I will update when it arrives.

I am on 15 days since my order was placed and I still have a "processing" status.  I have sent 4 emails and received one response saying the order would "most likely" be shipped by the end of the week.  What is the phone number you called?  I haven't tried that yet. 
donator
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felonious vagrancy, personified
April 03, 2013, 03:16:36 AM
Programmers rarely have customer service skills.

Yes, but they're frequently able to figure out how to hire somebody who has them.
hero member
Activity: 675
Merit: 502
April 02, 2013, 06:27:24 PM
After numerous calls and finally a demand for a refund, I just got a tracking number for an order I placed 8 days ago. I will update when it arrives.

Order received, and all is good. Coinabul, while maybe they are a bit slow to respond, is decidedly not a scam.
hero member
Activity: 675
Merit: 502
March 29, 2013, 01:59:49 AM
After numerous calls and finally a demand for a refund, I just got a tracking number for an order I placed 8 days ago. I will update when it arrives.

DHL?
FedEx.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
March 28, 2013, 11:45:42 PM
After numerous calls and finally a demand for a refund, I just got a tracking number for an order I placed 8 days ago. I will update when it arrives.

DHL?
hero member
Activity: 675
Merit: 502
March 28, 2013, 06:57:34 PM
After numerous calls and finally a demand for a refund, I just got a tracking number for an order I placed 8 days ago. I will update when it arrives.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
firstbits 1LoCBS
March 28, 2013, 12:31:09 PM
Who's the most trusted GOLD seller on this forum?
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
March 28, 2013, 12:22:03 PM
Still not resolved?

Lucky for him he didn't make bets on this forum that his ass couldn't cover, otherwise there would be pretty red X's under his name.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
March 27, 2013, 09:41:05 AM
It seems other active customers are not getting PMs sent back (after weeks). He might just be overwhelmed or well this is the beginning of the end of a large scam.
Or perhaps just the end of a company with shitty customer service.

Respectable people that brought up a company from zero to something and spent lots of time trying to make it work do not leave those companies without a very, very good reason. Trust me, I know.


Beginning of the end then?
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
March 27, 2013, 07:48:08 AM
It seems other active customers are not getting PMs sent back (after weeks). He might just be overwhelmed or well this is the beginning of the end of a large scam.
Or perhaps just the end of a company with shitty customer service.

Respectable people that brought up a company from zero to something and spent lots of time trying to make it work do not leave those companies without a very, very good reason. Trust me, I know.


Like a bag of the companies money?  Wink

Hahahaahaha !
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1001
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March 27, 2013, 07:40:46 AM
It seems other active customers are not getting PMs sent back (after weeks). He might just be overwhelmed or well this is the beginning of the end of a large scam.
Or perhaps just the end of a company with shitty customer service.

Respectable people that brought up a company from zero to something and spent lots of time trying to make it work do not leave those companies without a very, very good reason. Trust me, I know.


Like a bag of the companies money?  Wink

You do not know what you are talking about. So shut up.

But I do appreciate why YOU could think only this way,


hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1001
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March 27, 2013, 07:10:25 AM
It seems other active customers are not getting PMs sent back (after weeks). He might just be overwhelmed or well this is the beginning of the end of a large scam.
Or perhaps just the end of a company with shitty customer service.

Respectable people that brought up a company from zero to something and spent lots of time trying to make it work do not leave those companies without a very, very good reason. Trust me, I know.
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