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legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
@dogedigital please pay attention into this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23645299 , you haven't pay me.

Feel free to anyone who want to put a negative trust on him as a warning due keep ignoring my messages, it's small amount but still responsibility is responsibility.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed


I never said I was the good guy.  Please stop trying to twist things.

I have made mistakes.  Everyone does at some point.

You stealing .2 Bitcoin because of your opinion of us isn't justified.

You are twisting but it will not help you and it didnt help you till now

you made promises not mistakes and didnt keep those promises!

RHavar was absolutely right in all he called out about you!

he called you a clown
he advised you about KC
he even suspected that you are insolvent

yes IMO MP looks insolvent! time will tell and prove you wrong and us right

Who are right now the MP owners (not the Founders)?
to me it looks that something changed regarding who owns MP right now

BTW what will you do with such a lot of coins (.2)? will you put it in the Bank Roll? will you split it with your partners? yea tell us or what will you buy with it?

maybe you didnt get it so please let me repeat

you owe me 4 BTC + 6% interest
you owe me to buy all my RBIES even if I bought a lot now under your Floor

you are the thief and cheater! you promised "always" did you forget this? oh yea it was a mistake I almost forgot it. how about some more of those promises? you are the king of promises!



legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
You say a lot of misinformed and wrong information, but you are right on a few things.

I failed on a few promises and accept the blame in that.  I believe the team is going to be making an announcement later today to explain things and give a new plan on how things will work.

I haven't checked with the others, but I still believe you kept the .2 BTC that was sent by mistake to you?  Are you just going to keep that?

you failed on all promises not only a few.

you believe the team will do an announcement? arent you one of the team? and if yes why would you believe that the team is doing an announcement?

on the other hand you are saying you havent checked with the others! who are the others? are you sure you are not taking drugs?

yes I kept the .2 and this is very well known IMO. why dont you open a scam accusation against me that I stole .2?

you really think you can promise whatever and take it back whenever you like cause you are the big Dogedigital? I have still many RBIES that you denied to buy at  the floor! did you forget this? you still owe me 4 BTC + 6% interest! did you forget this? oh yea it was only a promise of yours and you can take it back whenever you like!

you promised not that long ago on October 13, 2017, 11:22:37 PM
Rubies 2 (R2B2) will be an available cryptocurrency on Moneypot.com within the week.

another empty promise! why should someone trust you or why should I send you the .2 back? you owe me!

get real Dogedigital



I didn't deny I wasn't able to keep on a few things.  I don't think I ever really try to use my 'status' for anything.  I'm far from perfect.

You had rubies before any 'promise' was made.  You benefited from the floor as did many others.  You recently may have purchased more trying to take advantage and encouraged others to blatantly do the same.

Trying to help and failing is one thing. What you are doing is just downright stealing. 

thx for the laugh!

you are the good guy and I am the bad guy! that is what you want all to believe! now I am sure you are taking drugs

just put your head into the sand hill and no one will see you!

get real Dogedigital or go on scamming as usual
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
You say a lot of misinformed and wrong information, but you are right on a few things.

I failed on a few promises and accept the blame in that.  I believe the team is going to be making an announcement later today to explain things and give a new plan on how things will work.

I haven't checked with the others, but I still believe you kept the .2 BTC that was sent by mistake to you?  Are you just going to keep that?

you failed on all promises not only a few.

you believe the team will do an announcement? arent you one of the team? and if yes why would you believe that the team is doing an announcement?

on the other hand you are saying you havent checked with the others! who are the others? are you sure you are not taking drugs?

yes I kept the .2 and this is very well known IMO. why dont you open a scam accusation against me that I stole .2?

you really think you can promise whatever and take it back whenever you like cause you are the big Dogedigital? I have still many RBIES that you denied to buy at  the floor! did you forget this? you still owe me 4 BTC + 6% interest! did you forget this? oh yea it was only a promise of yours and you can take it back whenever you like!

you promised not that long ago on October 13, 2017, 11:22:37 PM
Rubies 2 (R2B2) will be an available cryptocurrency on Moneypot.com within the week.

another empty promise! why should someone trust you or why should I send you the .2 back? you owe me!

get real Dogedigital

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
this SCAM needs always a BUMP as a warning and reminder

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
this SCAM needs always a BUMP as a warning and reminder

another concern and question for Dogedigital: who are right now Moneypot owners ( not Founders )? please name those

AcoinL.L.C aka Rango aka Blacksheep aka MattN
Last Active:   October 14, 2017, 12:10:06 PM

last posting on: September 20, 2017, 03:46:46 AM

Ranlo aka Laremar
Last Active:   October 10, 2017, 06:11:49 PM

last posting    on: September 29, 2017, 09:36:41 AM


they dont look to me as a partner right now but Dogedigital should know better and please answer my question who are right now Moneypot owners ( not founders )


it looks I woke someone up Smiley

AcoinL.L.C aka Rango aka Blacksheep aka MattN
Last Active:   October 28, 2017, 05:34:38 PM




legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
this SCAM needs always a BUMP as a warning and reminder

another concern and question for Dogedigital: who are right now Moneypot owners ( not Founders )? please name those

AcoinL.L.C aka Rango aka Blacksheep aka MattN
Last Active:   October 14, 2017, 12:10:06 PM

last posting on: September 20, 2017, 03:46:46 AM

Ranlo aka Laremar
Last Active:   October 10, 2017, 06:11:49 PM

last posting    on: September 29, 2017, 09:36:41 AM


they dont look to me as a partner right now but Dogedigital should know better and please answer my question who are right now Moneypot owners ( not founders )
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
Another Promise Another LIE = SCAM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22979374

Rubies 2 (R2B2) will be an available cryptocurrency on Moneypot.com within the week.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
SCAM!!

and who are you? I mean are you also scammed by the RBIES Promise?

thx
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
this scam accusation is still open
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed


I swapped over to R2B2 because i think it is the only version under which we have the slightest possibility to get back that price floor. With the 5% inflation, it will never happen. (i could have remained staking but i felt the extra inflation wont help us)

do you know the price of R2B2 as of today? I mean in Satoshi as Dogedigital promised also for R2B2 a floor of 1000 Satoshi

Quote
There were several ideas which were put out and all of those sound as they could work. There are a few issues that make me sceptical however. The ICO they did, flopped, the development has been taking ages and it would be substantial financial commitment (especially USD wise) to buy back all the Rbies at this moment. I do not see them doing it, especially as the new version has just launched and they are still working on getting it on track.

IMO the idea I gave will be the cheapest for MP. to put the buy wall so no one can arbitrage and then give 3-4 days time frame for RBIES  to sell them the RBIES or to switch them to R2B2. like this they kept their word and no one can accuse them of not keeping their promise even the promise was for "always".

for this or any other solution MP needs to have the funds. that is exactly what my concern is. even RHavar doubted their solvency

let them prove at least their solvency! Investors were asking for this but I didnt see the answer and proof. please correct me and point me to the proof of solvency

the V2 was implemented (announced already more than a year ago) in a very hasty and unprofessional way IMO because they wanted or needed the ICO to go through. from 1000+ apps there are only 6 apps converted to V2 and those apps are still with V2 bugs. the best apps like BetterBets, Bubblebits, Dragon etc didnt change to V2 yet and this fact is very concerning.

MP promised since they bought it a lot but did not keep their promises.

- implementation of RBIES
- implementation of V2
- Investors compensation
- Rbies floor buy back "always"
- R2B2 floor buy back "always"
- new games (Bitcoin Hero etc)

Transparency and Trust is what in this Industry counts.


legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1007

I am not defending them. And to bring some clarity to your first part. I was an investor in the BetterBets program (the team that made Rbies). And i held over 500k Rbies bought way above the current price for the most of it. I have now swapped it over to the R2B2 token.

And to clarify my stance, im actually very grateful that they gave the investors a chance to get out for so long (something i should have also done).
I would like to make sure everyone remembers that they did not own the token nor make it. (tho some blame of its failure could be placed on them)

As for the answer. Would i like for them to continue it ? Yes, ofcourse i would.
The current situation is what happens when people dont have sound financial planning/understanding.

If you sell them to me for market price, i will buy them. My offer is at 100 sats per coin.

While backing out of a promise does not bode well for them as a business i would still like to remind everyone one simple thing. Everyone who invests in anything, crypto or otherwise, should still remember that we all take responsibility for our own investments. It is easy to play the blame game (even if it is justifiable) but in the end you make your own success.

first of all good to see that we can do a conversation without any personal attacks (very much appreciated). this Scam thread is about Moneypot's Promise and not about me Jackpotracer. I did not promise anything and I own BIES
anyone who has a problem with me can open a thread against me

yes I remember when BetterBets invented RBIES and I said to myself that it was a very clever idea. so you were a stake holder then.
with 500k you still own a nice stake and even switched it to R2B2

we bought RBIES as soon MP announced that they will implement RBIES.  I know that everyone is responsible for his investments. please understand that we were in those times an app owner and we wanted to be a part of the RBIES Bank Roll and wanted to add RBIES to our games. I could show you all the free RBIES Promos we did even RBIES were not implemented yet. we trusted MP and were sure they will implement RBIES "Soon"

as we all know RBIES till today are not implemented same for R2B2

MP did a RBIES decision and no one knows why they took over or were glued to the RBIES idea. only they know and therefore they gave the famous "always" promise. I agree and some more users with me that they did not think it through and ignored warnings from trusted and smart users. we agreed before that everyone is responsible for his Investment decision and this applies also for MP owners.

why would they blame now RBIES holders? it was their decision to give the Promise and just to cancel the promise as Dogedigital did is a much to easy way to let him get away with it, IMO

this wording of Dogedigital when he did the announcement is giving a lot of doubt that he want only good for the RBIES holders
Rubies 2 (R2B2) will be an available cryptocurrency on Moneypot.com within the week.

Rubies will not be accepted, but it is highly suggested to convert to R2B2 via swaps to participate for Moneypot.

Dogedigital wants to force now RBIES owners to switch to R2B2 and this IMO stinks (at least for me). I want to sell my RBIES and not switch to R2B2 at least not at this stage as R2B2 is also an empty promise till today

Dogedigital also promised a floor of 1000 Satoshi for R2B2. do you know or anyone the price of righ tnow of R2B2 in Satoshi?

you are offering the market price of 100 satoshi for 1 RBIES. could you please point me to the exchange where it is traded 100 satoshi?

RHavar, Dooglus and I we gave MP IMO very good ideas how to get out clean of the promise but they as always are ignoring it ( I am afraid that is because all those solutions would need that they own some more BTC)

I dont need to prove me right because sadly MP will prove me right. just a question of time

good luck to all

I swapped over to R2B2 because i think it is the only version under which we have the slightest possibility to get back that price floor. With the 5% inflation, it will never happen. (i could have remained staking but i felt the extra inflation wont help us)

There were several ideas which were put out and all of those sound as they could work. There are a few issues that make me sceptical however. The ICO they did, flopped, the development has been taking ages and it would be substantial financial commitment (especially USD wise) to buy back all the Rbies at this moment. I do not see them doing it, especially as the new version has just launched and they are still working on getting it on track.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.

Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.

I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.

I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?

We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said.  We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this.  We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan.  We wanted to support the network and give it back value.

----

Regarding the decision I made:

It was a hard decision to make.  The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.

We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.

It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place.  Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency

The plan was always to support the Rubies network.  It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since).  We didn't try to market it for selling.  We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us.  We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation.  We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part.  

I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.  I don't deny blame in that.  But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.



only lies and good you cant lock this thread!

my in depth answers will come later just wanted to be sure you dont delete or edit it

Which part of my quote involves a lie?  You can't just keep yelling wolf and not show your work.  At least when I called you a liar ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22290779 ), I pointed out exactly where.   And yet you ran away instead of answering it, attacking me in other threads.  I try to stay away from you as much as possible.  You are the most toxic human being I have ever met and I've met some pretty bad ones.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed

I am not defending them. And to bring some clarity to your first part. I was an investor in the BetterBets program (the team that made Rbies). And i held over 500k Rbies bought way above the current price for the most of it. I have now swapped it over to the R2B2 token.

And to clarify my stance, im actually very grateful that they gave the investors a chance to get out for so long (something i should have also done).
I would like to make sure everyone remembers that they did not own the token nor make it. (tho some blame of its failure could be placed on them)

As for the answer. Would i like for them to continue it ? Yes, ofcourse i would.
The current situation is what happens when people dont have sound financial planning/understanding.

If you sell them to me for market price, i will buy them. My offer is at 100 sats per coin.

While backing out of a promise does not bode well for them as a business i would still like to remind everyone one simple thing. Everyone who invests in anything, crypto or otherwise, should still remember that we all take responsibility for our own investments. It is easy to play the blame game (even if it is justifiable) but in the end you make your own success.

first of all good to see that we can do a conversation without any personal attacks (very much appreciated). this Scam thread is about Moneypot's Promise and not about me Jackpotracer. I did not promise anything and I own BIES
anyone who has a problem with me can open a thread against me

yes I remember when BetterBets invented RBIES and I said to myself that it was a very clever idea. so you were a stake holder then.
with 500k you still own a nice stake and even switched it to R2B2

we bought RBIES as soon MP announced that they will implement RBIES.  I know that everyone is responsible for his investments. please understand that we were in those times an app owner and we wanted to be a part of the RBIES Bank Roll and wanted to add RBIES to our games. I could show you all the free RBIES Promos we did even RBIES were not implemented yet. we trusted MP and were sure they will implement RBIES "Soon"

as we all know RBIES till today are not implemented same for R2B2

MP did a RBIES decision and no one knows why they took over or were glued to the RBIES idea. only they know and therefore they gave the famous "always" promise. I agree and some more users with me that they did not think it through and ignored warnings from trusted and smart users. we agreed before that everyone is responsible for his Investment decision and this applies also for MP owners.

why would they blame now RBIES holders? it was their decision to give the Promise and just to cancel the promise as Dogedigital did is a much to easy way to let him get away with it, IMO

this wording of Dogedigital when he did the announcement is giving a lot of doubt that he want only good for the RBIES holders
Rubies 2 (R2B2) will be an available cryptocurrency on Moneypot.com within the week.

Rubies will not be accepted, but it is highly suggested to convert to R2B2 via swaps to participate for Moneypot.

Dogedigital wants to force now RBIES owners to switch to R2B2 and this IMO stinks (at least for me). I want to sell my RBIES and not switch to R2B2 at least not at this stage as R2B2 is also an empty promise till today

Dogedigital also promised a floor of 1000 Satoshi for R2B2. do you know or anyone the price of righ tnow of R2B2 in Satoshi?

you are offering the market price of 100 satoshi for 1 RBIES. could you please point me to the exchange where it is traded 100 satoshi?

RHavar, Dooglus and I we gave MP IMO very good ideas how to get out clean of the promise but they as always are ignoring it ( I am afraid that is because all those solutions would need that they own some more BTC)

I dont need to prove me right because sadly MP will prove me right. just a question of time

good luck to all
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1007
Has the entire ordeal with Moneypot (delays, promises and so forth) been a god damn shit show ? Sure has.
I see they are understanding that promises like that dont work and they need a whole lot more thought put into them before announcing.


This doesn't however change the fact that you, JPR, are the most obnoxious, annoying and egotistical bastard i have ever seen talk/write.
You have acted like a spoiled brat for so long that if you had put even 5% of the effort you put into trolling and raging on the forums into your game, you would most likely be very successful.

Its a god damn miracle or (very poor understanding of business) that they kept you on there for as long as they did.

Also, Please for fucks sake, start using quotes. The way you are trying to convey your message through the hot mess off bolded text and mindless lines of babbling really doesn't put the message through.

thanks god you chimed in LOL I was missing you and still missing some more

you are a crying shame to still be on MP owners side even they cheating users and Investors but according to your posting you were not an Investor or a RBIES holder because if yes you would cry heavily!!!

ARE YOU SAYING THAT MP WAS RIGHT TO CANCEL THEIR PROMISE TO BUY RBIES AS PROMISED?
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

lets see your Balls to give a straight forward answer?

edit
you as a Legendary user should give them red trust if you think they did cheat and hurt Investors and RBIES holders! if you think they did fine so you need to give me red trust! easy as that

edit2
sorry I forgot to ask you if you will now buy my RBIES? or what would you advise me to do with it?

I am not defending them. And to bring some clarity to your first part. I was an investor in the BetterBets program (the team that made Rbies). And i held over 500k Rbies bought way above the current price for the most of it. I have now swapped it over to the R2B2 token.

And to clarify my stance, im actually very grateful that they gave the investors a chance to get out for so long (something i should have also done).
I would like to make sure everyone remembers that they did not own the token nor make it. (tho some blame of its failure could be placed on them)

As for the answer. Would i like for them to continue it ? Yes, ofcourse i would.
The current situation is what happens when people dont have sound financial planning/understanding.

If you sell them to me for market price, i will buy them. My offer is at 100 sats per coin.

While backing out of a promise does not bode well for them as a business i would still like to remind everyone one simple thing. Everyone who invests in anything, crypto or otherwise, should still remember that we all take responsibility for our own investments. It is easy to play the blame game (even if it is justifiable) but in the end you make your own success.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.

Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.

I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.

I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?

We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said.  We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this.  We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan.  We wanted to support the network and give it back value.

----

Regarding the decision I made:

It was a hard decision to make.  The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.

We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.

It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place.  Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency

The plan was always to support the Rubies network.  It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since).  We didn't try to market it for selling.  We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us.  We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation.  We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part. 

I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.  I don't deny blame in that.  But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
Has the entire ordeal with Moneypot (delays, promises and so forth) been a god damn shit show ? Sure has.
I see they are understanding that promises like that dont work and they need a whole lot more thought put into them before announcing.


This doesn't however change the fact that you, JPR, are the most obnoxious, annoying and egotistical bastard i have ever seen talk/write.
You have acted like a spoiled brat for so long that if you had put even 5% of the effort you put into trolling and raging on the forums into your game, you would most likely be very successful.

Its a god damn miracle or (very poor understanding of business) that they kept you on there for as long as they did.

Also, Please for fucks sake, start using quotes. The way you are trying to convey your message through the hot mess off bolded text and mindless lines of babbling really doesn't put the message through.

thanks god you chimed in LOL I was missing you and still missing some more

you are a crying shame to still be on MP owners side even they cheating users and Investors but according to your posting you were not an Investor or a RBIES holder because if yes you would cry heavily!!!

ARE YOU SAYING THAT MP WAS RIGHT TO CANCEL THEIR PROMISE TO BUY RBIES AS PROMISED?
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

lets see your Balls to give a straight forward answer?

edit
you as a Legendary user should give them red trust if you think they did cheat and hurt Investors and RBIES holders! if you think they did fine so you need to give me red trust! easy as that

edit2
sorry I forgot to ask you if you will now buy my RBIES? or what would you advise me to do with it?
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1007
Has the entire ordeal with Moneypot (delays, promises and so forth) been a god damn shit show ? Sure has.
I see they are understanding that promises like that dont work and they need a whole lot more thought put into them before announcing.


This doesn't however change the fact that you, JPR, are the most obnoxious, annoying and egotistical bastard i have ever seen talk/write.
You have acted like a spoiled brat for so long that if you had put even 5% of the effort you put into trolling and raging on the forums into your game, you would most likely be very successful.

Its a god damn miracle or (very poor understanding of business) that they kept you on there for as long as they did.

Also, Please for fucks sake, start using quotes. The way you are trying to convey your message through the hot mess off bolded text and mindless lines of babbling really doesn't put the message through.
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