The decision was made so that the system stays in place and benefits the whole system. So it can work like it was intended to.
The ones that bought and actually believe in Rubies to work.
Not the ones that aim to 'stick it' to me and abuse and exploit it. It's definitely my fault that I promised to uphold it.
Topic: [SCAM SCAM]MONEYPOT[SCAM SCAM] officially announced not to buy RBIES as promised - page 6. (Read 10757 times)
October 13, 2017, 07:16:53 PM
October 20, 2017, 01:47:01 AM
Why are trusted member not giving Moneypot owners the red trust they earn after breaching such a promise?
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
Why do trusted members give Moneypot another chance to cheat Investors and users?
IMO Investors and users should be protected
if Jackpotracer would have given such a promise and broken it he would be covered with red trust!
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
Why do trusted members give Moneypot another chance to cheat Investors and users?
IMO Investors and users should be protected
if Jackpotracer would have given such a promise and broken it he would be covered with red trust!
October 13, 2017, 07:10:25 PM
very disappointed with trusted members who let MP get away with this obvious cheat! MP owners should get covered with red trust till they keep their promises
It looks like it's not just you any more - now they seem to be failing to honor their promise for everyone:
Any idea what "pending orders" means? I'm guessing there are lots of people staking RBIES based on the promised floor price. Does this mean that DogeDigital is going back on his word and all those people get to lose their money?
Edit: I recently attempted to clarify the position and was told again that Moneypot had promised to always buys Rubies at the 1000 satoshi base price:
a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.
And now less than 3 weeks later, after repeating their promise, they're breaking it?
Does anyone have a list of the accounts which represent "Moneypot"? How was the promise made? Did it come from Moneypot or Dogedigital only?
It came from me only. No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge). Many have made a ton.
Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.
You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
October 18, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
It was a hard decision to make. The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.
I think (or hope) you do not understand the ramification of what you are saying. You made and reiterated on moneypot's commitment to purchase back the rubies at a certain price. To unilaterally renege on your obligation here completely undermines any current or future promise you will make. In a business that completely relies on trust, I cannot see this as anything other than the death knell for MoneyPot if you choose to go down this route.
very interesting that you RHavar chiming in now at that late stage. why didnt you join in before when I was alone and Dogedigital didnt want to buy my RBIES? you could have come in and tell him the same to pay me Jackpotracer because I am same as all other users and RBIES holders and advice him to look for an acceptable exit of his stupid promise. hmmm for me it looks like that you didnt care as long Jackpotracer was the only one who was denied the RBIES buy back. now as all RBIES holders are affected you are here
Dogedigital knows very well the consequences of his decision. he doesnt care as he said to dooglus he can give him red trust. his and MP problem is that they dont know how to pay out their promises ( you not long ago pointed out that you could suspect an insolvency). those promises were done just to earn time and calm down Investors and RBIES holders. those promises were made not to fulfill them.
he wrote
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22988281
People begged me to start a scam accusation on you, but I really didn't want to deal with you at all. To me, .2 stolen by you was a good price to pay to never have to deal with you.
scam accusation against me LOL I am sure that @yahoo was one of them! sure Mr Dogedigital you are free to do whatever you like .......give a promise ..... cancel a promise and again and again. you are saying .2 is cheap and a good price not to buy back the RBIES from me LOL I call this SCAM
where is @yahoo now? he is a sig campaign manager and he should give you MP owners red trust also for not paying the users who worked for you to show the sig and post on twitter. why didnt MP pay those users? it is not a big sum and it was promised for Oct 17th = yesterday. why did MP posted in those threads a few days ago that they will pay on Oct 17th? why didnt they pay immediately? as I said it is a small sum!
please read here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23182497
or here check the Dogedigital promise (promise not to keep the promise)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22827025
Hey Guys.
Sorry, was away for Thanksgiving.
With the cancellation of the ICO, we will be giving bitcoin value for the MPX tokens instead.
Payment will take place on the 17th. Please re-confirm your original Bitcoin address or set a new one. Thank you.
this promise was given on the 10th and he offered to pay out on Oct 17th huh why that? those users should get paid immediately and @yahoo should know this and chime in to help those guys to get their money
I am not a fortune teller but I told MP owners about a year ago that their end is written on the wall (because of their stupid business behavior)and they told me to stop the FUD. I heard the death knell long ago but MP owners didnt hear it or didnt want to hear it.
they didnt listen to you long ago when you told them to use KC according to the rules
they didnt listen to dooglus when he told them to rethink their decision regarding the RBIES promise
they didnt listen to me more than once and my last question was "what does always mean"?
they again didnt listen to you when you told them to find a solution for their promise regarding the Investors compensation +6% interest
MP owners always tried to blame me or other people for their stupid mistakes but this kind of behavior will not go unpunished and Investors and players will punish them with "sorry but we dont trust you anymore"!
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While I understand you made this promise an "always" (and even condescendingly quoted the dictionary definition of "always") I think no one would fault you if you wanted to exit in a reasonable way. I would think it reasonable if you formally announce the end of the "price floor" and give people a 3 month grace period to sell you their rubies. To simplify it for everyone (including yourself) putting buy-walls on exchange(s?) would seem to be the most sensible approach.
you understand his promise? or did I understand you wrong? I didnt understand his "always promise" and dooglus didnt understand his promise. dooglus even pointed out the problem of this promise and Dogedigital ignored his question and warning.
I am sure Dogedigital will bombard you with PMs as he did with me. he loves PMs and is writing in PMs very different to public postings. no need to delete your posting cause I quoted it now.
I told Dogedigital in one of our PM conversations not long ago what I would have done before I go out with an ICO. I told him that before he goes out with an ICO he should have sit down with the Investors MP still owes coins according to MP's promise. even if MP doesnt want to fulfill their promises the Investors and RBIES holders believed his promise and if MP will not pay them they will not trust MP anymore and many m,ore out there will not trust them anymore. he should have try to hammer out a deal with the Investors. then he had to discuss in public with the RBIES holders how to hammer out a solution to cancel the RBIES floor promise.
now I will give you my version of solution for free. thank me later
- I would put up the buy wall on the exchanges.
- I would tell all RBIES holders that they have 2, 3, 4 etc days to sell all the RBIES they own or they want to sell to MP
- after this the always promise will be cancelled
IMO this would be an acceptable option for all RBIES holders. but your solution or my solution presupposes that MP has the coins for such buy backs and that they are still serious to fulfill their promise to compensate the Investors +6% interest. if they anyway dont want to pay/compensate Investors they will close down soon and can save/pocket the coins for the RBIES buy back.
in PMs I told Dogedigital that the ball is now in his yard
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P.S. @JackpotRacer can you please quote my message and say "so you don't delete it!!!". It is my hope that if you do that enough times you'll learn to use quote tags, and not just bold and italicize messages in a wall of unreadable text.
with time I will learn as long as I have you as a teacher. I will try my utmost but in the meantime I apologize for my bad english
edit
now Dogedigital posted the following regarding sig campaign
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23192149
It's being paid shortly. Have to re-organize the payout list with addresses. People who have been sending nasty messages and fighting since yesterday aren't helping. It will get done. Please be patient.
huh users have send nasty messages!!! Dogedigital guess why?
October 17, 2017, 01:57:32 PM
It was a hard decision to make. The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.
I think (or hope) you do not understand the ramification of what you are saying. You made and reiterated on moneypot's commitment to purchase back the rubies at a certain price. To unilaterally renege on your obligation here completely undermines any current or future promise you will make. In a business that completely relies on trust, I cannot see this as anything other than the death knell for MoneyPot if you choose to go down this route.
While I understand you made this promise an "always" (and even condescendingly quoted the dictionary definition of "always") I think no one would fault you if you wanted to exit in a reasonable way. I would think it reasonable if you formally announce the end of the "price floor" and give people a 3 month grace period to sell you their rubies. To simplify it for everyone (including yourself) putting buy-walls on exchange(s?) would seem to be the most sensible approach.
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P.S. @JackpotRacer can you please quote my message and say "so you don't delete it!!!". It is my hope that if you do that enough times you'll learn to use quote tags, and not just bold and italicize messages in a wall of unreadable text.
October 16, 2017, 02:22:38 PM
I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.
How did you not understand that effectively offering 5% per year in BTC forever was a bad idea?
I pointed it out to you at the time and you chose to ignore me.
How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?
You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.
Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?
You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.
Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?
I can't accept that you didn't "foresee" the problem with offering 5% returns forever on a deflationary asset. It's pretty obvious that that could never work - especially if you have someone *telling you* about it *at the time*.
interesting that you came up now with this posting. yesterday I had a long discussion with my partner about Dogedigital's promise cancellation. I said to my partner:
Dogedigital and his partners had an idea and they thought it is a good idea. ok but as soon dooglus posted
How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?
You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever........................................................
and I posted my question what does "always" mean?
Dogedigital and his partners should sit back and say ooops maybe something is wrong with our idea. lets think it over again. my partner said how could they ignore dooglus question and objection to this idea? I was also wondering why he ignored your question but I was not surprised about his sarcastic and arrogant answer he gave me. this answer showed all the hate he has against me and his brain is just shutting down if any discussion is connected to me.
the sad thing is that he will not learn from mistakes
October 16, 2017, 02:05:23 PM
I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.
How did you not understand that effectively offering 5% per year in BTC forever was a bad idea?
I pointed it out to you at the time and you chose to ignore me.
How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?
You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.
Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?
You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.
Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?
I can't accept that you didn't "foresee" the problem with offering 5% returns forever on a deflationary asset. It's pretty obvious that that could never work - especially if you have someone *telling you* about it *at the time*.
October 16, 2017, 01:40:28 AM
what Moneypot/Dogedigital proved is actually that their promises are promises not to keep their promises!
Moneypot is a shame and disgrace for the BTC gambling industry
Moneypot is a shame and disgrace for the BTC gambling industry
October 14, 2017, 01:38:04 AM
It came from me only. No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge). Many have made a ton.
Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.
You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.
You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.
I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.
I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?
We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said. We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this. We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan. We wanted to support the network and give it back value.
----
Regarding the decision I made:
It was a hard decision to make. The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.
We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.
It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place. Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency
The plan was always to support the Rubies network. It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since). We didn't try to market it for selling. We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us. We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation. We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part.
I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did. I don't deny blame in that. But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.
only lies and good you cant lock this thread!
my in depth answers will come later just wanted to be sure you dont delete or edit it
Which part of my quote involves a lie? You can't just keep yelling wolf and not show your work. At least when I called you a liar ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22290779 ), I pointed out exactly where. And yet you ran away instead of answering it, attacking me in other threads. I try to stay away from you as much as possible. You are the most toxic human being I have ever met and I've met some pretty bad ones.
thats very interesting! your PMs are sounding totally different to your posting and red trust you gave me! you are attacking me here and same time begging me to stop. are you for real?
did I promise you any compensation? did I promise to
" always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
NO! you did! did you forget this?
you are talking about "toxic"? you try to use RHavars word with the wrong person. you are the TOXIC Liar and CHEATER
sadly you are proving it with every posting and PM of yours!
as dooglus pointed it out you even about 3 weeks ago restated your RBIES promise! and now? the promise is cancelled LOL and I am toxic? because I am telling the truth and facts? dooglus is more polite than me because you did not attack him like me. dooglus was smarter than me not to believe you when you promised
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
soon you will say it was unintentionally promised or a slip of tongue like your false claim you are the Moneypot Founder
or your promise to compensate Investors! si this promise still on? LOL or is it already off? I mean in your head because you will declare it off whenever it pleases you! people who give promises like you just to call them off whenever they like are in my eyes the worst CHEATERS ever
RHavar asked you how can you give such promises like the promise for Investors and the 135 BTC promise for dec to pay back an Investor and I can answer RHavar now that you can give even more promises cause they were never intended to be kept!!!
you proved it today!
IMO it is time for trusted members to cover you with red trust! and if they think you are the guy with the correct behavior as you are pretending to be so they should give me red trust because I am blaming you for things you didnt do
Yes, I addressed that promise. I failed to be able to keep it and I explained why.
You're toxic because you yell incoherent things and don't back them up. You take quotes out of context and you put words in other people's mouths. You deliberately set things up to make us look bad. 3 [scams] really? Even when it was resolved. You kept .2 BTC from us. Just kept it. Support said they would give you Rubies transactions once you returned it, but you never did. You even quoted it here in this thread.
People begged me to start a scam accusation on you, but I really didn't want to deal with you at all. To me, .2 stolen by you was a good price to pay to never have to deal with you.
Please read what I said to Dooglus. I didn't go ahead and say 'yeah dooglus, go and buy up as much rubies as you can', I clarified what had been said:
Quote from: Dogedigital on September 26, 2017, 10:30:39 PM
a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.
And C'mon man. I've explained this several times to you. I never claimed to be the original founder of Moneypot or the one who coded it. There are differences however with the company called Moneypot Inc. This is a great example of how you take things out context and try to use it to attack us constantly. You have brought it up at least 5 times when you've been given the answer and explanation to it.
I didn't even mention previous investors. Why do you keep injecting things into posts? Stop putting words in my mouth. We are doing the best we can on that front. The ICO partnership would have helped strengthen the network and ability for us to do that, but you thought it was a great idea to sabotage it and send private messages to a bunch of people saying 'you didn't read the whitepaper, but you're sure we'll scam'. You even got mad at us having a tight and secure escrow team assembled to hold funds throughout.
Stop putting words in my mouth. We've always intended to make good on that. We have said that 100 times to you. This is asinine.
Please again, where are the lies in the quote? Also, do you plan on answering the lies I actually accused you of ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22290779 ) ?
edit; spelling
yes go on twisting all around and blaming me instead of yourself. all trusted members are welcome to give me red trust cause I treated you wrong and I did not keep my promises to you. my advise is wake up
why didnt you put the right wording in first place. Moneypot Founder and Moneypot Founder Inc is a difference and you know it very well and I will say it again and again that you guys did it by purpose with bad intentions. everything I claim is out of context LOL thx for the laugh.
did I promise to compensate the Investors or you? I am one of the Investors and it is my right to claim it if you like it or not! you have an easy choice, just call it off as you did with the RBIES promise!
why did you send me the RBIES address in PM?
MP support and you the owners are for me same!
I dont trust you and I lost a lot of coins with RBIES and my Investment! now tell me it is a lie!
October 14, 2017, 01:00:40 AM
It came from me only. No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge). Many have made a ton.
Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.
You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.
You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.
I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.
I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?
We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said. We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this. We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan. We wanted to support the network and give it back value.
----
Regarding the decision I made:
It was a hard decision to make. The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.
We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.
It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place. Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency
The plan was always to support the Rubies network. It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since). We didn't try to market it for selling. We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us. We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation. We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part.
I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did. I don't deny blame in that. But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.
only lies and good you cant lock this thread!
my in depth answers will come later just wanted to be sure you dont delete or edit it
Which part of my quote involves a lie? You can't just keep yelling wolf and not show your work. At least when I called you a liar ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22290779 ), I pointed out exactly where. And yet you ran away instead of answering it, attacking me in other threads. I try to stay away from you as much as possible. You are the most toxic human being I have ever met and I've met some pretty bad ones.
thats very interesting! your PMs are sounding totally different to your posting and red trust you gave me! you are attacking me here and same time begging me to stop. are you for real?
did I promise you any compensation? did I promise to
" always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
NO! you did! did you forget this?
you are talking about "toxic"? you try to use RHavars word with the wrong person. you are the TOXIC Liar and CHEATER
sadly you are proving it with every posting and PM of yours!
as dooglus pointed it out you even about 3 weeks ago restated your RBIES promise! and now? the promise is cancelled LOL and I am toxic? because I am telling the truth and facts? dooglus is more polite than me because you did not attack him like me. dooglus was smarter than me not to believe you when you promised
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
soon you will say it was unintentionally promised or a slip of tongue like your false claim you are the Moneypot Founder
or your promise to compensate Investors! si this promise still on? LOL or is it already off? I mean in your head because you will declare it off whenever it pleases you! people who give promises like you just to call them off whenever they like are in my eyes the worst CHEATERS ever
RHavar asked you how can you give such promises like the promise for Investors and the 135 BTC promise for dec to pay back an Investor and I can answer RHavar now that you can give even more promises cause they were never intended to be kept!!!
you proved it today!
IMO it is time for trusted members to cover you with red trust! and if they think you are the guy with the correct behavior as you are pretending to be so they should give me red trust because I am blaming you for things you didnt do
October 13, 2017, 11:20:43 PM
It came from me only. No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge). Many have made a ton.
Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.
You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.
You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.
I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.
I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?
We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said. We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this. We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan. We wanted to support the network and give it back value.
----
Regarding the decision I made:
It was a hard decision to make. The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.
We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.
It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place. Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency
The plan was always to support the Rubies network. It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since). We didn't try to market it for selling. We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us. We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation. We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part.
I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did. I don't deny blame in that. But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.
only lies and good you cant lock this thread!
my in depth answers will come later just wanted to be sure you dont delete or edit it
October 13, 2017, 08:46:27 PM
It came from me only. No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge). Many have made a ton.
Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.
You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.
You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.
I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.
I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?
October 13, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
very disappointed with trusted members who let MP get away with this obvious cheat! MP owners should get covered with red trust till they keep their promises
It looks like it's not just you any more - now they seem to be failing to honor their promise for everyone:
Any idea what "pending orders" means? I'm guessing there are lots of people staking RBIES based on the promised floor price. Does this mean that DogeDigital is going back on his word and all those people get to lose their money?
Edit: I recently attempted to clarify the position and was told again that Moneypot had promised to always buys Rubies at the 1000 satoshi base price:
a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.
And now less than 3 weeks later, after repeating their promise, they're breaking it?
Does anyone have a list of the accounts which represent "Moneypot"? How was the promise made? Did it come from Moneypot or Dogedigital only?
October 13, 2017, 12:52:13 AM
and again many mails of mine are unanswered
my mails in general are asking for the RBIES address to send 20k RBIES and another addy for another 10k RBIES
I didnt get the addys!!!
now I saw the red trust that Dogedigital gave me not long ago
Complete liar. See reference for his lies and why his negative feedback is not true. He doesn't even bother trying to explain his reasoning.
I am a LIAR? @Dogedigital you are the LIAR and CHEATER!!! did I promise you something? or did you promise Investors to compensate them?
and how about the RBIES promise?
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
read your promise again and again and then tell me who is the LIAR?
shame on you and your partners who let you go on with lying and cheating!
very disappointed with trusted members who let MP get away with this obvious cheat! MP owners should get covered with red trust till they keep their promises
my mails in general are asking for the RBIES address to send 20k RBIES and another addy for another 10k RBIES
I didnt get the addys!!!
now I saw the red trust that Dogedigital gave me not long ago
Complete liar. See reference for his lies and why his negative feedback is not true. He doesn't even bother trying to explain his reasoning.
I am a LIAR? @Dogedigital you are the LIAR and CHEATER!!! did I promise you something? or did you promise Investors to compensate them?
and how about the RBIES promise?
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
read your promise again and again and then tell me who is the LIAR?
shame on you and your partners who let you go on with lying and cheating!
very disappointed with trusted members who let MP get away with this obvious cheat! MP owners should get covered with red trust till they keep their promises
October 11, 2017, 12:39:24 PM
Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.
Fuck you. Your opinion doesn't matter. Show your signature off somewhere else.
Lets see if I get this.
MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.
MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.
Fuck you too. Jackpotracer can do whatever he wants. He will take that .4 btc as a payment for his time and use it to buy more rabies to sell back for profit. Jackpotracer is smart. You are dumb.
below that, anyone has the right to use that as an arbitrage opportunity. They're
the ones who made the guarantee. And, I might add, it's ONLY in cases like
that that someone would take them up on it! What do you expect?
hi and thx for your input
btw @Jprfan is an idiot and tries to derail so please ignore him.
but I agree with you that righ tnow it is a very nice arbitrage everyone can jump on and should IMO jump on.
IMO it was their decision and promise and they for sure had a very very good reason to do so and maybe now the situation changed and they regret it. but as Dogedigital answered in this very arrogant way he was sure he did the right thing. and yes I love his answer
Dogedigital promised
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
edit to prevent unncessary clutter;
definition -- always:
adverb
1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:
2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:
3. forever
4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:
October 11, 2017, 12:32:48 PM
Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.
Fuck you. Your opinion doesn't matter. Show your signature off somewhere else.
Lets see if I get this.
MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.
MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.
Fuck you too. Jackpotracer can do whatever he wants. He will take that .4 btc as a payment for his time and use it to buy more rabies to sell back for profit. Jackpotracer is smart. You are dumb.
below that, anyone has the right to use that as an arbitrage opportunity. They're
the ones who made the guarantee. And, I might add, it's ONLY in cases like
that that someone would take them up on it! What do you expect?
Edited to add: Yeah, I get it, Jackpotracer. I'm with you on this issue.
October 11, 2017, 12:28:14 PM
in any case MP is doing all they can not to buy my RBIES
in case MP buys from other users (please let me know if there are users out there who sold RBIES to MP in the last 10 days) and not from me it is clearly a SCAM and personal against me!
in case MP buys not from other users and not from me it is clearly also a SCAM
in both cases MP owners should get Red Trust from Trusted users
but in case Trusted users think that I stole from MP the 0.2 BTC then they should give me Red Trust
just for info then that I am mailing each day a few times and asking for the RBIES address to send them the 20K RBIES equivalent to the 0.2 BTC and to send me another addy to send another 10k RBIES but till now no addy received!
I am also willing as I proposed to user @yahoo (he sadly disappeared) to send the 0.2 BTC to a Trusted user and another 20k RBIES so he will need to send me back the 0.2 BTC for the 20k RBIES (waste of fees). additionally I want to get another RBIES address to send some more RBIES
right now MP owners are scamming me as a RBIES owner
in case MP buys from other users (please let me know if there are users out there who sold RBIES to MP in the last 10 days) and not from me it is clearly a SCAM and personal against me!
in case MP buys not from other users and not from me it is clearly also a SCAM
in both cases MP owners should get Red Trust from Trusted users
but in case Trusted users think that I stole from MP the 0.2 BTC then they should give me Red Trust
just for info then that I am mailing each day a few times and asking for the RBIES address to send them the 20K RBIES equivalent to the 0.2 BTC and to send me another addy to send another 10k RBIES but till now no addy received!
I am also willing as I proposed to user @yahoo (he sadly disappeared) to send the 0.2 BTC to a Trusted user and another 20k RBIES so he will need to send me back the 0.2 BTC for the 20k RBIES (waste of fees). additionally I want to get another RBIES address to send some more RBIES
right now MP owners are scamming me as a RBIES owner
October 09, 2017, 12:56:09 AM
RBIES are available on livecoin for less than 700 satoshis each, and MoneyPot will buy them from you at 1000 satoshis each.
Moneypot promised to buy at the 1000 floor price but they try to avoid to buy and right now they dont buy ( at least from me )
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Does that represent a sure 42% profit? Buy at 700, sell at 1000, repeat.
it does represent a sure profit and everyone should do this arbitrage IMO because Dogedigital opened the door for this arbitrage but as I mentioned above Moenypot tries with all might to avoid to keep the promise
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Even better, RBIES stake - so you can hold them after buying and make even more.
correct but risky if Moneypot will not buy it at the promised floor price
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MoneyPot should be buying up the supply on livecoin to stop people taking advantage of this. If they put up a large buy wall at 1000 this would stop being an issue, and people who wanted to sell their RBIES for 1000 satoshis each would have a quick and easy way of doing so. Win/win, right?
this is what I thought that they will do when Dogedigital made this promise! I remember very well when you asked your very logic question because you were surprised about his offer and promise to buy RBIES "always" at the 1000 satoshi floor price and Dogedigital didnt answer you.
and when I asked very confused and surprised about his promise to buy "always" and what "always" means? Dogedigital answered in a very arrogant way (seen in postings above)
to be frank I was sure Moneypot will sit with a 1000 satoshi buy wall on the exchanges and implement RBIES into MP apps. as we see and know now they didnt put the buy wall and they didnt implement the RBIES but they are whining and dont want to keep their promise to buy the RBIES
question is why did they give such a promise and why didnt they do the buy wall as you mentioned correctly? they should have known that this could open an arbitrage possibility for everyone and why shouldnt the users not doing this arbitrage?
we (Jackpotracer) bought many RBIES long ago when MP promised to implement RBIES to MP apps "Soon" for a very high price. we used it for promos and were waiting to put it into the bank roll. I know many users and app owners did the same. BTCjoe, gamblingbad, yahoo, professor just to mention some well known. we all were very disappointed
for me it does not matter if MP is opening a buy wall for 1000 satoshi or they buy the RBIES direct as long as MP is keeping their promise to buy the RBIES "always"
October 08, 2017, 03:49:15 PM
RBIES are available on livecoin for less than 700 satoshis each, and MoneyPot will buy them from you at 1000 satoshis each.
Does that represent a sure 42% profit? Buy at 700, sell at 1000, repeat.
Even better, RBIES stake - so you can hold them after buying and make even more.
MoneyPot should be buying up the supply on livecoin to stop people taking advantage of this. If they put up a large buy wall at 1000 this would stop being an issue, and people who wanted to sell their RBIES for 1000 satoshis each would have a quick and easy way of doing so. Win/win, right?
Does that represent a sure 42% profit? Buy at 700, sell at 1000, repeat.
Even better, RBIES stake - so you can hold them after buying and make even more.
MoneyPot should be buying up the supply on livecoin to stop people taking advantage of this. If they put up a large buy wall at 1000 this would stop being an issue, and people who wanted to sell their RBIES for 1000 satoshis each would have a quick and easy way of doing so. Win/win, right?
October 08, 2017, 08:35:39 AM
I know you don't care for my opinion but too bad. Looks to me like you're stealing .2 here. I don't know what's going on with moneypot lately as my site isn't even up anymore, but from what I read they sent you extra $$$ by mistake and asked you to return it. You have no right to keep that money. I'm sure it's most likely for book keeping purposes and you can initiate another trade after returning what they asked.
I'm trying to remain objective and see both sides of the argument. I know you have a personal grudge against the moneypot team and most of the rest of the world but if you do not return the money I would advise MP to open their own scam accusation and let the community decide whom needs tagged.
you are trying to be objective! thx for the laughI'm trying to remain objective and see both sides of the argument. I know you have a personal grudge against the moneypot team and most of the rest of the world but if you do not return the money I would advise MP to open their own scam accusation and let the community decide whom needs tagged.
no faecal language this time? like Asshole, kiss my ass, etc! I am not sure if your account was not hacked
lets see if you are objective? just answer or explain what the following means
Dogedigital promised
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
edit to prevent unncessary clutter;
definition -- always:
adverb
1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:
2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:
3. forever
4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:
when I opened the scam accusation MP didnt want to buy my RBIES. why didnt you chime in as the objective guy you are telling us that you are? why didnt you write "hey MP you promised to buy RBIES forever so buy it!"
I dont trust MP owners because they promised to buy RBIES (and then they denied to buy from me)
1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:
2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:
3. forever
4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:
and not to forget this arrogant start of the answer
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."
edit to prevent unncessary clutter;
definition -- always:
adverb
I hope you understand the definition of "always" now because Dogedigital explained it in depth and very clear even for people like me
I asked many times to send me a RBIES address to send them the 20k RBIES equivalent to 0.2 BTC and asked for another address to send some more RBIES. sadly they didnt send me the 2 addys but it shows very vlear that they dont want to stand to their promise to buy the RBIES as promised
@yahoo are you a trusted member? if yes ..........how about that you will be the middleman (because you tryst MP owners and always defending them) and I send you the 0.2 BTC but you need to guarantee that I can sell my RBIES? as soon MP owners dont want to buy my RBIES for the floor of 1000 satoshi each RBIES you will need to buy my RBIES and sell it to MP. I am sure you sold already your RBIES you owned ( I know you owned a few when MP announced the implementation of RBIES long ago and then they didnt keep the promise (as always) and you implemented it to Bubbles on your own without MP)
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