Topic: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io (Withholding funds) - page 2. (Read 4709 times)

I don't have a problem with comments and opinions. I would have a problem with someone saying e.g. "This proves that Sportsbet are scammers" or "neymarjr12 scammed Sportsbet" after mediation. That's like presenting fake proof that Steamtyme scammed suchmoon.


I'm quite sure that if the mediators do their job properly, the probability of anyone willing to submit to mediation again is very very low.

Thank you for mentioning that askgamblers.com refused to look in to this, upon checking through the posts I think it was related to them citing it was a breach of ToS and they do not arbitrate in those disputes but someone please correct me if I am wrong.

I just looked at their website, askgamblers.com their website is full of affiliate links so that clearly could be a matter of conflict of interest. I mean, if the ruled against a casino and in favour of a user to the tune of say $10,000 or $50,000 or more, I do not see many casinos taking a massive financial hit and still allowing askgamblers.com to earn off them. Just by looking at their website I would class them as unsuitable for making any sort of ruling via arbitration.

As for trusting forum members, without even knowing exactly which users are supposed to be participating in this scam allegation against Sportsbet, I would only trust those forum members that I trust. By the way you are on my trust list  

Askgamblers.com refused to look into it.

Also, wtf is askgamblers and why should we trust them? And how do you know they are not getting paychecks from the casinos?

I'd rather trust the forum members.

I cannot advocate for a process such as this where forum members are asked to arbitrate or give a judgement on matters such as these. As the Askgamblers.com website is there to rule on things such as this, why was that route not taken instead?


My sentiments exactly, I already stated that this could be start of a very dangerous precedent where it is the new norm of a route that anybody making an allegation can ask to go down and expect it to happen.

Do not do that. That is extremely poor judgement to begin threatening people with Negative feedback for posting/trolling in a thread. Exclude and ignore them all you want... myself included if that's how you feel, but let's not degrade ourselves and the feedback system.


Come on. You know that's a neutral at best. It's a comment on them as an individual and their posting/trolling. Unless it is Neymarjr. or sportsbet.io you plan to tag for carrying on afterwards. Then it could be seen as a trade dispute and relevant to a warning about transacting with them.

Not going to lie I was pretty opposed to this idea of a "Jury of mediators". Not that I don't trust/respect most of your judgement most of the time, it just seemed like a forced scenario. I had a minor exchange with sportsbet  after the decision had already been made to go ahead with this - I was unaware of that and we started talking about something different - My suggestion was for them to seek out that Askgamblers.com themselves and see if they would hear the case from that point.

I see this as precedent setting where individuals might see this as the new accepted method to demand answers from the backend of a company. Just my opinion. H

Or not even that. There is no plausible solution to this debacle that I could imagine satisfying every troll and TBH it's none of anyone's business except neymarjr12 and Sportsbet. If they choose to share any info that's fine, if not - we have to accept that and move on.

I made them letters big enough for you and I am done with arguing with a liar  like you.

Get-Paid.com

Bro, it’d be a good idea for you to step away from this now. You’re digging yourself a hole, deeper & deeper. It’s clear what your intentions are as you’ve been caught working for a rival.

Step away from this thread & all discussion about the case (I include myself in that). It’s being dealt with by reputable members & the findings will be revealed in a few days. This saga doesn’t need people like yourself stirring the pot. Leave it to the guys who’ve been chosen to deal with it.

You’re very close to getting red trust from suchmoon. I suggest from now nobody posts in this thread unless you’re directly involved in the investigation because none of the rest of us are going to add anything constructive.


Anybody who responds to this thread who isn’t directly involved in the investigation after my post is at the risk of receiving negative trust

We are promoting them in some of our faucet sites, that's correct.
What's wrong with that?

How's that turning us into ones "who work for them"? We don't work for them, we promote them because they pay us for an ad space. We could care less about all the rest.

How is all this related to SportsBet.io? Are you claiming we want Roobet.com to succeed and SportsBet.io to fail and that's why the posts are made here?
Let's take that theory forward,
If anything, at all - we should be bashing BitCasino.io, the sister website of SportsBet.io - because Roobet is doing casino games only with no sports -

So let's put things straight:

My personal complaint against SportsBet.io is simple - they are withholding user funds and they do it for unscrupulous reasons.
Why do I go against them? Because I don't appreciate what they do to their users, accusing them of multi-account-users and dealing with it unprofessionally.

Do I get any benefit from doing so? No.
In fact I've wasted too much of my precious time on this.

I want people and businesses to play fair, and that's what I fight for...

Here's another example for you:

I had a Skype conversation with George from CloudBet maybe a year ago or so, he asked me to promote their website - initially we did, but when I discovered how CloudBet is scamming their users I asked George for an explanation - when I saw this is not getting resolved I shut the door and told him - no thanks, no more promoting your business.

And if you search the history you can see I made posts in CloudBets threads as well.

I don't like it when people don't play fair, that's all... especially especially when it comes to gambling.

So sorry - whatever theory you wanna come up with is not going to work for you simply because I am telling you the truth who I am and why I do this.

Now,

Can we stop all this nonsense and let's see how this (specific) case gets resolved? I have no interest in continuing the discussion with you.

No, I meant exactly a shithead who is high-risk in trading as evidenced by escalating a dispute after binding mediation. Thanks for trying to explain my words but you're shit at that job so you're fired.


Some more gobbledygook. Mediation is not for "observers".

You said it not me
So do you promote Roobet on your sites or youre not part of the gambling industry?    Which one cant be both  

Why do I need to search for results in Google.
Do you have a valid scam accusation from this forum?

And seriously - I don't want to continue the discussion with you.
You're a liar (claiming I work for competitors) and there's no point in talking to liars as you can believe whatever you want to believe.

I work for my businesses and my businesses only and thank god I am not part of the gambling industry, and don't wanna be part of it, ever.

How about my Google link-  its wrong too?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=stake.com+scam
Nothing against Stake.com I play there, but it's not only SB who gets accused of such things.  Wake up!!

Wrong!
But it's pointless to continue this ridiculous argument.

You're wrong, 100%.

you are clearly accepting money to work for other casinos.  so your words shouldnt be taken with much worth.   
you are biased and only here for your financial reasons.

how do you explain this!
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=stake.com+scam
you say its only sportsbet but i am saying its all big casinos

That wasn't a case of fraud, it was a case where they didn't stipulate the maximum profit properly.
This is understandable and since then Roobet hasn't caused any further issues as far as I know (please don't underestimate I don't read posts in the forum!)

A genuine mistake is not the same as withholding your funds for some clause from the ToS that sounds unscrupulous.

Sorry but you really can't compare between the two.

I dont believe this is still ongoing now over what.  1/4 a bitcoin?


You are truly biased and not making things any better


All sportsbook have FUD written about them

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=stake.com+scam

What about Yahoo's case?  -    https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/roobetcom-not-paying-on-their-mistakes-5206650
That man went though hell and back to get his winningss   Its not just  sportsbet, wake the fuck up alreadsy??

If it was 2 individuals arguing about something then you'd be right.
But it's a giant operation against a tiny small ant - so "protecting" the ant is the right thing to do.

They are the ones withholding funds and they are the ones who've done it already twice this week - at least according to what was posted in Bitcointalk (perhaps some other users who experienced the same are not even aware they can post this here).

I have 0 sympathy towards SportsBet.io, zero ... there are other operators like Stake and Roobet who have 0 complaints against them because they simply don't withhold winnings like crooks.



You're right, that's how I view it exactly.
There are too many red flags here.

And you're right about this way of resolving this case - what about the 2nd case that was raised? (some members said they won't have time for another one).

This is unprofessional and uncalled for.

And yet I'm taking the fire for being on the defensive here - I'm defending FUTURE customers that would come here and complain about the same - because it doesn't look like SportsBet.io would change the way they operate.

What kind of casino or gambling website is asking you if you're related to these and these accounts?!?!

If there is FRAUD - block and kick out the user!

If not - then stop being a crook and pay up!

SIMPLE!