Topic: SCAMMER: Cablepair (Tom) from BTCFPGA.com/bitcoinasic.net - page 7. (Read 24105 times)

Did you try adding some buffers? You probably needed more buffers.

That's all well and good, but have you stopped drinking?

You seem to have totally ignored addressing the whole CAN-ELECTRIC hoax, which was outright fraud according to the real owner of Can Electric.

Ahhh finally got back into my hacked account. This does not mean I will be a regular on this board anymore it just means I can make some statements that will hopefully be helpful to you.

1) I do not deserve a scammer label. We sold FPGA Mining products since may, when BFL announced their product MONTHS early just to try and squash the competition they lied which was a total lie and dis-service to the community but we wanted to keep our business alive, this led us to begin developing out own ASIC basic based prodcut. Our latest attempt at making the huge leap to ASIC failed. It was never our intention to scam anyone. Anyone who ordered a FPGA mining product has received their unit or their unit is on the way (2 orders slipped through the cracks when shit went bananas but we found these orders and we shipped them out this week.

2) I have paid back over 1 million USD to credit card buyers and BTC buyers alike. I am liquidating assets like a madman and still mining at about 60 gh/s with my FPGA rigs, which brings about 10 btc per day. Every week I gather what assets I have obtained and I distribute them to the customers starting with the earliest customers first and than working my way up to the later buyers. There are many people who can attest to this. One of our largest orders who spent over 100k was refunded by wire transfer just last week and I am sure if you look you can find that thread.

IF you are interesting in reading the actual definition of a scam you may do so here:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scam


Instead I am doing everything I can to make sure every single customer gets a complete and total refund. Unfortunately some people do not like the fact that they are returned less coins than they have sent. Although the fact of the matter is - these units were priced in USD NOT BTC and it is appropriate to use the current exchange rate when converting USD to Bitcoin to make these refunds. Any one who knows what they are doing in e-commerce would agree totally.

3) See a scammer would of taken all the money (over a million dollars) and disappeared, instead I still live in my same house and still go to my regular job every day. I am a family man and the last thing I want is any kind of trouble. You guys have no idea the sleepless nights worrying about this thing, but I am going to keep on this and make sure every customer gets his refund.

4) I am sure its hard to believe but this has hurt and will continue to hurt myself and my family far more than it will hurt any of you, But that's the gamble I took when I decided to make an ASIC device, and take pre-orders, we just could not make the damn thing work (for long) and the chips were clocked wrong or something because they had a very little life especially when you pushed them to any degree.

At any rate that is all behind us. Like I said I have paid over 1 mil in refunds and continue to do so every friday night (20k just last friday) this list is shortening and shortening and before you know it every single person will be paid back in full.

I just hope and pray you give me the time to make this all happen, I sold most of these coins at around $15 and now am buying back at $30 - its very difficult but as the last 2 weeks showed you , you will continue to see 10 refunds every friday until every single person is paid back.

I have been a very strong member of this community for 2 years, and I have always fulfilled my promises - please have a little faith in me is all I am asking - I WANT to do the right thing. Think about what a true scammer would of done with over a million at his disposal???


I have four kids and I am just trying to get by - I am sorry I was not up to meet the challenge of bASIC but I assure you all of you will be paid back.

thank you for listening

Thomas Van Riper
BTCFPGA
P.O. BOX 246
Hannibal NY 13069

(any correspondence sent to any other address other than the business addresss of BTCFPGA will be returned. My house is not my place of business nor is it the address for my business)

i have changed my numbers due to the hundreds of calls I was receiving a day - if you need to get ahold of me email [email protected]
and I will get back to you within a couple of days at the latest

again thank you for reading this and for those who have it - thank you for your compassion and empathy.

Tom
BTCFPGA

p.s. BTCFPGA will continue to sell FPGA based devices to hobbyists and all others who are interested in this device.
http://www.btcfpga.com

How do you get that Dave has seen a hashing unit with his own eyes from that statement that he's seen the hashing performance stats on a working pre-production unit? If he'd actually seen the unit, don't you think he would have said so rather than just saying he's seen stats?

since many irc users are team tommy i will post here.
tom request a btc address from everyone for refund and he gave a date of which he was intending to use for refund the 23rd of jan. so dont we as a community have the right to hold him to that dates exchange rate.?

post of him saying he refund everyone https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1048.0

Here is an EXACT post on the same subject:

PLEASE see the statement:


So it is VERY clear that BOTH a unit AND the performance were seen by Dave, and NOT a relay/assumption based on information from Tom

Unfortunately because BOTH people were admin, many of the posts were edited/deleted/re-edited/re-worded,  as a result some posts have absolutely no relation to the material that was originally posted.....

This is also WHY Tom should receive the "Money launderer/Scammer" tag even if he does "pay back" the BTC, because there was a deliberate attempt to mislead the customers, and he  went out of his way to deliberately "break the toys" when he could not get his own way.

https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1048.0 toms own words
exchange rate should be average on the 23rd or january

That's great to hear about people FINALLY getting some refunds again.. golf_clapping.wav

However, Tom should STILL be classified as a scammer.. slow rolling refunds doesn't vindicate him at all..

He lied and mis-led people at almost every turn when it comes to bASIC (lol and CAN-ELECTRIC).. lets not sugar coat this pile of dung..

Since they don't seem to have posted here on their own accord, a number of bASIC customers have popped into the IRC channel to report having received their Bitcoin refunds.

*whistles*

We are almost to that "couple more weeks" part.. can we finally get a "scammer" tag put on Tom and bASIC?  Or, do we continue to slow roll this whole sham?

Pretend to change BTC to USD then pocket the difference in the exchange rate.

Ty for that.

For those wanting to revisit the lies, incompetence, and overall mismanagement of bASIC:

http://gfyi95.com/bASIC/bASIC%20Forum/www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.html

The old forum has been uploaded is seems.

Agreed, and I would love to see a more detailed explanation of this entire situation from his perspective. I wouldn't count on it given that he might be investigated as well of Tom does get charged with fraud, but it would be nice if he could.

If Dave wants to explain what stats it is he saw that convinced him they had ASICs hashing away then he can.  That would be far more credible than having apologists make excuses and weak arguments on his behalf.

Oh please. He probably should have said that he didn't see the chips in person, but the fact he said I've seen the stats for it as opposed to I've seen it should have been a clue, along with the fact that he's never met Tom face to face.

As for the bolded part, people make statements like that about things they don't have first-hand knowledge of all the time. Your point is ridiculous; if a client asks you how many unit of product XYZ you have in stock and they check the inventory system and confirm the number with the warehouse manager, are you deceptive and misleading if you say "We have 37 units in stock" even though you haven't seen it with your own eyes?

Here's what he actually said:

"as I've already posted, there are chips hashing away in the engineering lab - I can see the stats for it."

He stated as FACT that there were chips hashing away.  He didn't say "Tom tells me there's chips hashing away" or "I can see some stats which I guess are chips hashing away".

His statement also says that the stats he could see were for chips hashing away - not that he guessed that they were for chips hashing away.

His statement unambiguously claims as fact that chips were hashing away - a statement he could only truthfully make if he had actual knowledge that was the case.  At best he was passing on second-hand information as though it were first-hand - which is misleading and deceptive (even if not intentionally so).

True, though they still mean some prototype was working, which was not the case. Somebody lied, could be that Dave just passed it forward, we'll probably know more about it.