Scammers are smart as well. - page 14.

imstillthebest

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Quote from: Palider on December 20, 2019, 12:08:54 PM

These is the criteria to find good investment, that scammers alresdy adopted

Use cases,
Real products,
Transparent team,

Active and many more that scammers also use this and also victim many investors money like miracletele. And many more. So ICO campaign now a days are very risky

gee , that is the popular preference of investors but they didnt know that scammers already infested this preferences .

now what are we going to do now when its almost impossible to detect or to avoid a scam project ? i guess the best possible way to avoid them is to avoid newer ico or simillar kind of investment just to be safe and divert your attention to some verified and 100 percent legit assets like cryptocurrencies ( ex. btc , eth , ltc and alike ) .

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It's always the fight between the good and evil. And where there is money involved, larger would be the scams. It's not just in crypto. The thing that makes it easier for them to scam with crypto is their chance of being caught and brought to justice are negligible while they scam using crypto and remaining anonymous. The only way to be sure about a project is actually realizing how fulfiling the promise is and have a look at at-least a demonstration of what the team are capable of.

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Of course they are among us. They are not that smart as you think though because they can easily find a job that they don't need to scam investors, just look at the scam accusation threads in the forum to see how many of them are caught. They are probably doing the same thing over and over and still got caught. Some of them are just employing to create their website and ERC token in fiverr too.

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These is the criteria to find good investment, that scammers alresdy adopted

Use cases,
Real products,
Transparent team,

Active and many more that scammers also use this and also victim many investors money like miracletele. And many more. So ICO campaign now a days are very risky

Raflesia

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Yes, scammers always have a way to do that in their projects with new tactics, even the current trend even scammers can still take the opportunity to deceive people.
It's not that I don't believe in new projects but sometimes new projects lead to scammers and it hurts us after knowing at the end, so scammers always have a strategy to get a lot of smitten with what scammers offer.

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with a little social engineering that blends what prospective participants and investors want, they can get it all.

create projects with good quality weights, website views that are enhanced with interesting concepts, facilitate earning requirements that are very easy for campaign participants and airdrops, increase investor bonuses when Ico runs, and even take kyc for free without anyone refusing. The last thing is to say a dramatic farewell by writing "soon"

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Quote from: Winscosinally on December 20, 2019, 08:00:26 AM

Scammers don't have to give huge promises anymore, believe me they are among us and they know how smart investors have become too, they always reshape their tactics, now projects don't have to give too good offers because they know people are aware that too good to be real offers are scam, honestly scammers are not idiots

People keep saying good projects always have good team and brilliant ideas to solve crypto issues, who tell you that scammers can't deliver all this?

I think you are right, some ICO project that look promising, sometime not like what people expect. Maybe in my mind for now is, investor must think like investor, good or not the project, no one force them to make investment. if lose, it is their risk. Maybe like that, because although we warn other people, but sometime they keep do what they think it is good for them.

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Quote from: Winscosinally on December 20, 2019, 08:00:26 AM

Scammers don't have to give huge promises anymore, believe me they are among us and they know how smart investors have become too, they always reshape their tactics, now projects don't have to give too good offers because they know people are aware that too good to be real offers are scam, honestly scammers are not idiots

People keep saying good projects always have good team and brilliant ideas to solve crypto issues, who tell you that scammers can't deliver all this?

I think you could avoid this kind of thing in my opinion, we experience and knowledge I think I could say that I can easily track something that is not right in this project.
Surely if you don't want to get scam just do not put your money in risk or in some kind of websites that are not yet trusted by a lot of users,
Also surely a lot of scammers are adjusting since those old scam trick are already compromised so I think it is normal for them to think of other ways.

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Quote from: Winscosinally on December 20, 2019, 08:00:26 AM

Scammers don't have to give huge promises anymore, believe me they are among us and they know how smart investors have become too, they always reshape their tactics, now projects don't have to give too good offers because they know people are aware that too good to be real offers are scam, honestly scammers are not idiots

People keep saying good projects always have good team and brilliant ideas to solve crypto issues, who tell you that scammers can't deliver all this?

Of course scammers are smart people or people who know how the current situation is and how they take the opportunity to fool many people and then can benefit from it and I think there are no stupid scammers, they always have their own tactics to be able to tricking many people and for me personally stupid people who only invest because of other people's opinions, they are the right target for scammers.

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How else scammers are gonna get their crypto, they need to innovate to get people into their trap. crypto users get scam less as time goes by because of their experience and knowledge, it's not surprising tbh. mostly naive crypto investor will likely to get scammed now because alot of people already experienced hyip, cloud mining and other shit.

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Quote from: samuraijin on December 20, 2019, 08:16:42 AM

if they are not smart, they are not scammers, but that does not mean smart people are scammers, usually scammers have a solid team to promote their projects out, sometimes they dare to pay a large enough cost to catch more investors, like inviting famous people in crypto or make a poster photo meeting with important people in crypto which even though it just happened to ask for a photo, this often happens and it looks funny, they know the weaknesses of people in the crypto world that is giving them dreams of getting rich quick, because honestly I have the principle that we will never be rich without working hard, unfortunately those who are stuck on scam projects do not have this principle, so they are always tempted to get rich quick, weak people like this who are easily fooled

I don't know why they became scammer. But I've seen a lot of good and smart projects that have become scammer, maybe because they're lazy with development work or they are greedy. Nowadays we should not focus on new projects because there are so many scammer, we can hardly distinguish them. Even the new IEO projects at Okex have become a scammer, the largest exchange in this market

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Scammers do not have good times, we can see it on number of successful ICOs. People are morr cautious about investing and that is very important for further crypto adoption. Cool

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Scammers are actually smart else they cannot get even a single penny from anyone's wallet, its we who need to be more smart than scammers. I think with the evolution of IEO scam projects have been controlled a bit but it still need more filtration. As mentioned somewhere in this thread that scammers are now hiring a good team and even investing on their marketing part to lure more and more investors so it is difficult to identify them in the beginning there must developed something to filter such scam projects, the crypto community really needs to do something for it.

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Quote from: pawanjain on December 20, 2019, 09:57:08 AM

I consider scammers to be in the lower category of hackers. Scammers consistently try to scam others by bring a new way of scamming people every time.
Scammers scam people > People get aware > People prevent from such scams > Scammers bring new method of scamming
and that's how the cycle goes on and on.

They are basically doing social engineering, similar to hacker techniques, and they can be only successful if their victims are less bright then themselves and preferably uneducated.

This is why they try to isolate their victims with pm messages. Scamming is way harder in open forum where there are smarter people around.

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I consider scammers to be in the lower category of hackers. Scammers consistently try to scam others by bring a new way of scamming people every time.
Scammers scam people > People get aware > People prevent from such scams > Scammers bring new method of scamming
and that's how the cycle goes on and on.

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Of course, if there is no longer any scamer, but until now fraud / scams still occur, many projects still fail, this indicates they are still hanging around
you must stay alert.
minimize the opportunity for scamer so they don't increase.

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Yes, Scammer is the evil smarter. They have more ways to scam target.
There are many types of scams that many occur in this crypto world. As is often the case, this is a phising scam. There are many type of phising like a fake website, fake airdrop, fake project, and many more.

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Quote from: Winscosinally on December 20, 2019, 08:00:26 AM

Scammers don't have to give huge promises anymore, believe me they are among us and they know how smart investors have become too, they always reshape their tactics, now projects don't have to give too good offers because they know people are aware that too good to be real offers are scam, honestly scammers are not idiots

People keep saying good projects always have good team and brilliant ideas to solve crypto issues, who tell you that scammers can't deliver all this?

And they are getting smarter everyday. They present themselves flawlessly, sometimes they seem even more reliable than a real project.
It's better to know about the project and the people involved beforehand or personally. Anything on the internet cannot be fully trusted.
Even something as regulatory license should be verified and while paying online, you should also be sure you are going through the right channel.

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the funny thing is that even scammers now have a good team. and if they collect a large amount of money, then they can immediately turn out to be scammers and run away with the money. This is a paradox. from the early beginning, it is very difficult to understand what kind of project team will be. I saw many projects in which there were weak teams but then they brought me a large amount of profit

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The fact is that a scammer is very cunning and clever, only an ignorant and inexperienced investor is trapped in a scammer project. I'm surprised lately that crypto-world is filled with scammers, and is crypto not held by legitimate people and giving new ideas? I'm overwhelmed at the moment, fighting scammers is difficult.
and of the thousands of altcoins that exist, only a few are showing crypto-world, other than that it fails. and no wonder too, lately a lot of projects are filled with manipulation and this is also my opinion of cunning scammers. right now I'm away from it all, and only focus on the famous bitcoin and altcoin.

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