Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 170. (Read 845582 times)
There is no scientific explenation and need for this as it is about faith
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
First of all, you don't know whether the bible is right or wrong. If the bible were right then none of the other possible causes for the existence of the universe would be possible because only the God from the bible had to be the creator, therefore your scientific proof is gone and now relies on the bible being right or not.
Show the place where cause and effect combined with entropy combined with complexity relies on the Bible.
You keep trying to bring religion into this science thread.
Even the fact that machines have makers, and the Machine Maker of the universe is God, doesn't have anything to do with the Bible.
It's the other way around. God exists, and the Bible exists because He made it through cause and effect.
Since you said God is anything that created the universe, it makes no sense to say that God is the God from the bible because the god from the bible is clearly not Zeus or The big bang which is just a process, not a God.
And from that we are back to the beginning where you can't prove what the first cause really is.
You seem to neglect the fact that I had the little word "if" in there. Since you neglect it intentionally, you are opposing me rather than the fact that God exists. Since you are opposing me, you essentially have admitted that you know that God exists.
And that's the problem, you don't know what created the universe, it could be your god from the bible or it could be something totally different therefore your proof is meaningless.
Well, no. I know from science and other things that God created the universe.
What is an Astargath? It seemeth to be something that posteth in the forum. What is it actually? Don't really know. It seemeth quite intelligent, however. And certainly, it does exist. After all, there are all these posts that it posteth.
But what is an Astargath made out of. Nobody really knows. Nobody has seen it. But the evidence that it exists is overwhelming. Of course, it could delete all its posts. Then it would be difficult to tell if it existed. But Theymos probably has backups.
No you don't. You only proved that the universe had a cause or a beginning but you haven't proved that God is the cause. The cause could be many things, claiming it was God it's like claiming it was aliens, no proof for any of them.
That's what complexity does. The way complexity works in an entropy universe shows that God exists. The fact of cause and effect working the way it does, shows God through the ultra high - beyond conceivable understanding - complexity in cause and effect alone, to say nothing about the intelligence of the mind of man produced thereby.
Of course, even the lower intelligence of you and other people who won't accept the science that proves God, is still proof in itself that God exists.
Explain how complexity shows god exists, don't just say it does. Where is your argument
That's what complexity does. The way complexity works in an entropy universe shows that God exists. The fact of cause and effect working the way it does, shows God through the ultra high - beyond conceivable understanding - complexity in cause and effect alone, to say nothing about the intelligence of the mind of man produced thereby.
Of course, even the lower intelligence of you and other people who won't accept the science that proves God, is still proof in itself that God exists.
hey decker dude, you forgot your links on that that last load of bollocks you shoveled!
damn it buddy ...I wanted to drink!!
ahhh screw it! I'll just drink now and we'll be even when you post em again in about 10 minutes!! (BURRRRP)
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
First of all, you don't know whether the bible is right or wrong. If the bible were right then none of the other possible causes for the existence of the universe would be possible because only the God from the bible had to be the creator, therefore your scientific proof is gone and now relies on the bible being right or not.
Show the place where cause and effect combined with entropy combined with complexity relies on the Bible.
You keep trying to bring religion into this science thread.
Even the fact that machines have makers, and the Machine Maker of the universe is God, doesn't have anything to do with the Bible.
It's the other way around. God exists, and the Bible exists because He made it through cause and effect.
Since you said God is anything that created the universe, it makes no sense to say that God is the God from the bible because the god from the bible is clearly not Zeus or The big bang which is just a process, not a God.
And from that we are back to the beginning where you can't prove what the first cause really is.
You seem to neglect the fact that I had the little word "if" in there. Since you neglect it intentionally, you are opposing me rather than the fact that God exists. Since you are opposing me, you essentially have admitted that you know that God exists.
And that's the problem, you don't know what created the universe, it could be your god from the bible or it could be something totally different therefore your proof is meaningless.
Well, no. I know from science and other things that God created the universe.
What is an Astargath? It seemeth to be something that posteth in the forum. What is it actually? Don't really know. It seemeth quite intelligent, however. And certainly, it does exist. After all, there are all these posts that it posteth.
But what is an Astargath made out of. Nobody really knows. Nobody has seen it. But the evidence that it exists is overwhelming. Of course, it could delete all its posts. Then it would be difficult to tell if it existed. But Theymos probably has backups.
No you don't. You only proved that the universe had a cause or a beginning but you haven't proved that God is the cause. The cause could be many things, claiming it was God it's like claiming it was aliens, no proof for any of them.
That's what complexity does. The way complexity works in an entropy universe shows that God exists. The fact of cause and effect working the way it does, shows God through the ultra high - beyond conceivable understanding - complexity in cause and effect alone, to say nothing about the intelligence of the mind of man produced thereby.
Of course, even the lower intelligence of you and other people who won't accept the science that proves God, is still proof in itself that God exists.
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
First of all, you don't know whether the bible is right or wrong. If the bible were right then none of the other possible causes for the existence of the universe would be possible because only the God from the bible had to be the creator, therefore your scientific proof is gone and now relies on the bible being right or not.
Show the place where cause and effect combined with entropy combined with complexity relies on the Bible.
You keep trying to bring religion into this science thread.
Even the fact that machines have makers, and the Machine Maker of the universe is God, doesn't have anything to do with the Bible.
It's the other way around. God exists, and the Bible exists because He made it through cause and effect.
Since you said God is anything that created the universe, it makes no sense to say that God is the God from the bible because the god from the bible is clearly not Zeus or The big bang which is just a process, not a God.
And from that we are back to the beginning where you can't prove what the first cause really is.
You seem to neglect the fact that I had the little word "if" in there. Since you neglect it intentionally, you are opposing me rather than the fact that God exists. Since you are opposing me, you essentially have admitted that you know that God exists.
And that's the problem, you don't know what created the universe, it could be your god from the bible or it could be something totally different therefore your proof is meaningless.
Well, no. I know from science and other things that God created the universe.
What is an Astargath? It seemeth to be something that posteth in the forum. What is it actually? Don't really know. It seemeth quite intelligent, however. And certainly, it does exist. After all, there are all these posts that it posteth.
But what is an Astargath made out of. Nobody really knows. Nobody has seen it. But the evidence that it exists is overwhelming. Of course, it could delete all its posts. Then it would be difficult to tell if it existed. But Theymos probably has backups.
No you don't. You only proved that the universe had a cause or a beginning but you haven't proved that God is the cause. The cause could be many things, claiming it was God it's like claiming it was aliens, no proof for any of them.
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
First of all, you don't know whether the bible is right or wrong. If the bible were right then none of the other possible causes for the existence of the universe would be possible because only the God from the bible had to be the creator, therefore your scientific proof is gone and now relies on the bible being right or not.
Show the place where cause and effect combined with entropy combined with complexity relies on the Bible.
You keep trying to bring religion into this science thread.
Even the fact that machines have makers, and the Machine Maker of the universe is God, doesn't have anything to do with the Bible.
It's the other way around. God exists, and the Bible exists because He made it through cause and effect.
Since you said God is anything that created the universe, it makes no sense to say that God is the God from the bible because the god from the bible is clearly not Zeus or The big bang which is just a process, not a God.
And from that we are back to the beginning where you can't prove what the first cause really is.
You seem to neglect the fact that I had the little word "if" in there. Since you neglect it intentionally, you are opposing me rather than the fact that God exists. Since you are opposing me, you essentially have admitted that you know that God exists.
And that's the problem, you don't know what created the universe, it could be your god from the bible or it could be something totally different therefore your proof is meaningless.
Well, no. I know from science and other things that God created the universe.
What is an Astargath? It seemeth to be something that posteth in the forum. What is it actually? Don't really know. It seemeth quite intelligent, however. And certainly, it does exist. After all, there are all these posts that it posteth.
But what is an Astargath made out of. Nobody really knows. Nobody has seen it. But the evidence that it exists is overwhelming. Of course, it could delete all its posts. Then it would be difficult to tell if it existed. But Theymos probably has backups.
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
First of all, you don't know whether the bible is right or wrong. If the bible were right then none of the other possible causes for the existence of the universe would be possible because only the God from the bible had to be the creator, therefore your scientific proof is gone and now relies on the bible being right or not.
Show the place where cause and effect combined with entropy combined with complexity relies on the Bible.
You keep trying to bring religion into this science thread.
Even the fact that machines have makers, and the Machine Maker of the universe is God, doesn't have anything to do with the Bible.
It's the other way around. God exists, and the Bible exists because He made it through cause and effect.
Since you said God is anything that created the universe, it makes no sense to say that God is the God from the bible because the god from the bible is clearly not Zeus or The big bang which is just a process, not a God.
And from that we are back to the beginning where you can't prove what the first cause really is.
You seem to neglect the fact that I had the little word "if" in there. Since you neglect it intentionally, you are opposing me rather than the fact that God exists. Since you are opposing me, you essentially have admitted that you know that God exists.
And that's the problem, you don't know what created the universe, it could be your god from the bible or it could be something totally different therefore your proof is meaningless.
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
First of all, you don't know whether the bible is right or wrong. If the bible were right then none of the other possible causes for the existence of the universe would be possible because only the God from the bible had to be the creator, therefore your scientific proof is gone and now relies on the bible being right or not.
Show the place where cause and effect combined with entropy combined with complexity relies on the Bible.
You keep trying to bring religion into this science thread.
Even the fact that machines have makers, and the Machine Maker of the universe is God, doesn't have anything to do with the Bible.
It's the other way around. God exists, and the Bible exists because He made it through cause and effect.
Since you said God is anything that created the universe, it makes no sense to say that God is the God from the bible because the god from the bible is clearly not Zeus or The big bang which is just a process, not a God.
And from that we are back to the beginning where you can't prove what the first cause really is.
You seem to neglect the fact that I had the little word "if" in there. Since you neglect it intentionally, you are opposing me rather than the fact that God exists. Since you are opposing me, you essentially have admitted that you know that God exists.
'
You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
First of all, you don't know whether the bible is right or wrong. If the bible were right then none of the other possible causes for the existence of the universe would be possible because only the God from the bible had to be the creator, therefore your scientific proof is gone and now relies on the bible being right or not.
Show the place where cause and effect combined with entropy combined with complexity relies on the Bible.
You keep trying to bring religion into this science thread.
Even the fact that machines have makers, and the Machine Maker of the universe is God, doesn't have anything to do with the Bible.
It's the other way around. God exists, and the Bible exists because He made it through cause and effect.
Since you said God is anything that created the universe, it makes no sense to say that God is the God from the bible because the god from the bible is clearly not Zeus or The big bang which is just a process, not a God.
And from that we are back to the beginning where you can't prove what the first cause really is.
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
First of all, you don't know whether the bible is right or wrong. If the bible were right then none of the other possible causes for the existence of the universe would be possible because only the God from the bible had to be the creator, therefore your scientific proof is gone and now relies on the bible being right or not.
Show the place where cause and effect combined with entropy combined with complexity relies on the Bible.
You keep trying to bring religion into this science thread.
Even the fact that machines have makers, and the Machine Maker of the universe is God, doesn't have anything to do with the Bible.
It's the other way around. God exists, and the Bible exists because He made it through cause and effect.
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
First of all, you don't know whether the bible is right or wrong. If the bible were right then none of the other possible causes for the existence of the universe would be possible because only the God from the bible had to be the creator, therefore your scientific proof is gone and now relies on the bible being right or not.
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
Give it up. You know as well as I do, that if Zeus set cause and effect in place, that all the information we have about Zeus is extremely limited, or completely wrong. Why? Because the Bible is right. But, this being a science topic, science proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
Well damn... I just popped in hoping for episode 23... 
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
So you have no answer to my question and you keep ignoring it? You claimed that if cause and effect were put in place by Zeus, then zeus is god. If that was the case then you can't say the bible is true, it's simple logic that you obviously are ignoring because I made you look bad again rofl
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
But this thread is about scientific proof for the existence of God. Are you suggesting that science has proof for the existence of Zeus as well?
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You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
''2. If cause and effect were put into place by Zeus, then Zeus is God;'' ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
Now that you understand that God created the universe, you also understand that He exists. Just because I haven't explained something to you, doesn't necessarily mean I haven't explained it. However, thank you for looking to me as an authority.
I was just wondering. When you claim that I claimed something, are you trying to refresh my memory? Or are you making a false claim? Are you trying to deceive yourself into believing something?
You are a person, right? You have an identity. You are you, right? The things that you do and say in life might affect others, but they mostly affect you.
Now that you understand that God exists, seek Him. Contact him with your mind and identity. He is open to answering your questions. But ask Him with a sincere heart rather than trying to deceive, like you constantly try to deceive yourself into thinking that you can deceive other people. Since God rules through cause and effect, He understands all your deception.
Contact Him through prayer, for real. He is listening for you.
I just can not understand. What other proofs of God do you need to have in the scientific plan? This is not provable at all and I do not understand how it can be proved. Is there a god and how much religion is there in society. It already depends purely on everyone from what he believes.
If people were right in the things they believed, there wouldn't be any accidents.
Science attempts to prove many things without having people believe them. Some things it has proven. Some it hasn't proven. Not everybody understands how science proves all the things it proves.
God is the only One Who believes what is right all the time.
Maybe nobody needs scientific proof that God exists, but some people are curious.
Science proves and nature showsthat God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
If your crappy links were in fact proof of your god, pretty sure that everyone would know this as it would have been made public a long time ago.
As your links are not quoted by a single other person aside from yourself....
Your links = FAIL
That's wherein your problem lies. It is your problem, and the problem of most people. But the scientific establishment loves it when people have your problem.
What is your problem? You don't understand much of everything. And you can easily be subverted to lies. And it happens right out in the open for you and your kind. And science people love it when it happens. Because it is more profit for them.
You are the kind of person who would stand out in the rain and say it is not raining. Why would you say it? Because the high priests of your science religion suggested it to you.
Learn to think a little, and you might see a whole lot of things you miss.
Said the guy who believes adam and eve were the first humans, snakes talk, miracles exist and that God is all powerful and all knowing yet he fails several times in the bible.
What's the matter? Finding out that science actually proves that God exists? And you don't like it when somebody rubs your nose in it, so you go into religion and badmouthing, right?
You know what this does, don't you? It actually strengthens the understanding that God exists. So, in spite of your attempted badmouthing (which is backfiring on you), thanks for your help.
You haven't explained this tho ''If the bible is a fact then God can't be Zeus or any of the other things you said so your logic is a bit confusing here. You claim that God is anything that created the universe but at the same time God is the God from the bible??''
I just can not understand. What other proofs of God do you need to have in the scientific plan? This is not provable at all and I do not understand how it can be proved. Is there a god and how much religion is there in society. It already depends purely on everyone from what he believes.
If people were right in the things they believed, there wouldn't be any accidents.
Science attempts to prove many things without having people believe them. Some things it has proven. Some it hasn't proven. Not everybody understands how science proves all the things it proves.
God is the only One Who believes what is right all the time.
Maybe nobody needs scientific proof that God exists, but some people are curious.
Science proves and nature showsthat God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
If your crappy links were in fact proof of your god, pretty sure that everyone would know this as it would have been made public a long time ago.
As your links are not quoted by a single other person aside from yourself....
Your links = FAIL
That's wherein your problem lies. It is your problem, and the problem of most people. But the scientific establishment loves it when people have your problem.
What is your problem? You don't understand much of everything. And you can easily be subverted to lies. And it happens right out in the open for you and your kind. And science people love it when it happens. Because it is more profit for them.
You are the kind of person who would stand out in the rain and say it is not raining. Why would you say it? Because the high priests of your science religion suggested it to you.
Learn to think a little, and you might see a whole lot of things you miss.
Said the guy who believes adam and eve were the first humans, snakes talk, miracles exist and that God is all powerful and all knowing yet he fails several times in the bible.
What's the matter? Finding out that science actually proves that God exists? And you don't like it when somebody rubs your nose in it, so you go into religion and badmouthing, right?
You know what this does, don't you? It actually strengthens the understanding that God exists. So, in spite of your attempted badmouthing (which is backfiring on you), thanks for your help.
I just can not understand. What other proofs of God do you need to have in the scientific plan? This is not provable at all and I do not understand how it can be proved. Is there a god and how much religion is there in society. It already depends purely on everyone from what he believes.
If people were right in the things they believed, there wouldn't be any accidents.
Science attempts to prove many things without having people believe them. Some things it has proven. Some it hasn't proven. Not everybody understands how science proves all the things it proves.
God is the only One Who believes what is right all the time.
Maybe nobody needs scientific proof that God exists, but some people are curious.
Science proves and nature showsthat God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.
If your crappy links were in fact proof of your god, pretty sure that everyone would know this as it would have been made public a long time ago.
As your links are not quoted by a single other person aside from yourself....
Your links = FAIL
That's wherein your problem lies. It is your problem, and the problem of most people. But the scientific establishment loves it when people have your problem.
What is your problem? You don't understand much of everything. And you can easily be subverted to lies. And it happens right out in the open for you and your kind. And science people love it when it happens. Because it is more profit for them.
You are the kind of person who would stand out in the rain and say it is not raining. Why would you say it? Because the high priests of your science religion suggested it to you.
Learn to think a little, and you might see a whole lot of things you miss.
Said the guy who believes adam and eve were the first humans, snakes talk, miracles exist and that God is all powerful and all knowing yet he fails several times in the bible.
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