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The SDC "community" is well-known to be the most toxic in crypto, and all the "devs" seems to do is stall.. I would advise anyone who is new, or undecided, to leave here.

TrollsRoyce I presume

It seems to me TV (not Ryno) is the man to provide the info. It is a shame both market and Zeuner docs cant be done at the same time.

Here are my problems:

1) Who will trust the market pre peer review? If the Zeuner Report had been released some time ago (as it could have been) hackers and pen testers would have already tried to break it (unsuccessfully one hopes) and the crypto scene would not be so obsessed with cryptonote alone as an anon tech.

2) Regrettably and for reasons that remain private I have been forces to sell  over 50% of my SDC holdings in recent months. Obviously I feel the Zeuner peer review would have helped push the price up further and am understandably frustrated when months later I still wait. You yourself told me it would not take much longer months ago. Sadly you yourself must be disappointed that we are still discussing it in this way.

It's not the 0.4BTC that hurts, it's the dagger to the heart. 3 weeks chaps. Please make it happen.

Laterz.

This thread is so much better with child_harold and his puppet account on ignore.

He's a nobody invested in Cloakcoin check his post history.


Exactly. To be fair, most of the crypto community who are against shadow are idiots (EmillioMann and company) who invested in shitcoin scams that were warned by people within this community. The others are pump groups (BobSurplus, Prometheus etc) who attacked it to promote their own scams. When the scam finally was clear they blamed the warners and their investment instead the scam artist developers and pump groups who are using their BTC for hookers and blow.

To people about for the Shadowsend review:

Yes, it has been 5 months. The reviewer (Zuener/CN Team) asked for more detailed documentation for the system. Last I checked the SDC developers stated that they didn't have the time to dedicate to documentation when their main priority is finishing the markets development. This topic was brought up in IRC countless times and in this thread. In that 5 month span the project has been featured on one of the most trafficked news sites on the net, vice.com. Go re-read that article. It's content and headline is based on delivery of the marketplace which will no doubt have a follow up article there and on other large sites once this moves into testing and release phase. SDCDev and the team are making sure that the next major press distribution has maximum exposure by releasing a solid product, not some half ass shitcoin hot air promise of a marketplace. The only way for Shadow to reach its full potential is by delivering on it's milestones. If history can teach us anything is that it always does.

Moving forward. Once the marketplace app is released our team can focus on documentation. Let me remind you Child_Harold that this is a real development project with real people working for free on it while the majority does nothing. We all benefit from the work done by the team and those contributing by building supporting platforms, getting existing platforms to  support SDC and spreading the word about the project by bringing in new privacy advocates into the fold.

That said, you are bitching about a .4BTC ($110) donation when this project's PPC (price per coin) has more than quadrupled in value since the donation. Do you even know how much it costs to develop software? An average C++ developer runs anywhere from $50-$100 bucks an hour. Someone of the caliber of SDCDev, Tecno, BaS will run much higher probably around $150-$250. Let's use the higher end average though so you can put your greed and lack of patience into perspective.

Example:
Pay x  Week Hours = Wage (Week)
$100 x 40 = $4000 a week

Wage x Weeks = Monthly Salary
$4000 x 4 = $16,000

Months x Wage = Cost per C++ Developer for Marketplace
5 x $16,000 = $80,000

Number of SDC C++ Devs x Wage = Total Cost of Backend Development (not included frontend design or development)
3 x $80,000 = $240,000

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Skill=C%2b%2b/Salary

Adjust these numbers however you want, regardless it is clear that our developers could be making a shit ton more money elsewhere without having to listen to little bitchmade investors who can't appreciate their work whine about a 4x-5x profit in 5 month span. Also these rough figures don't include Java (Android development), Html/Css, tech support, copywriting, planning, research or design hours either. This example is just based on the marketplace backend development. If other factors were included the total cost would be much higher. That said, the team is here to build cool shit and change the landscape of the world not listen to your whining. If they wanted to make money they could quit the project and go to a more traditional engineering role without the BS investors ankle biting their progress.

TL:DR

The reviewers (Zuener and the Cryptonote authors) asked for more documentation. SDC devs dedicated resources to marketplace development not documentation. Software development hours cost money and energy, if you aren't paying the devs for their time then quit bitching about their cycle.

Enough of the hate.

I only want the best for SDC. My frustration only demonstrates my passion.
The ShadowSend v2 protocol was developed last year and still awaits recognition.

How dare anybody accuse me of FUD.

If the Team is holding back the report then then may the sword of Damocles judge them.

wheatclove: Your insults are reprehensible and you should be ashamed of yourself. Word to the wise: talking about your dick in IRC only suggests you lack one. Now GTFO.

See you boys in 3 weeks whilst I plan my cruel shitstorm which I truly hope I can abort after perusing the contents of the now legendary Zeuner Review.

We deserve much more than that. If the coin takes off as it should we early adopters will all be in the position of the people who bought BTC at $0.50 and sold it at $900. All of this noise will be forgotten.

Every little thing you do, be it coding something or a blog post or selling a lousy comic book on Ebay for SDC leads toward that end. Suffice it to say that I am doing the things that are not discussed openly toward that end. Why would you want to do anything else? All of you, with holdings.

Efxaristo poli 

Good to have you on board adelphos!

I am Leonidas
Nice to meet u

Sorry? Who the hell are you?

Nice cliche wordsmith

Introducing ur new leader... wheatclove

Good luck with that

You don't deserve the air that you breath.

Staking and you are happy? That every staked coin is nothing worth in future? 
Market is broken and devs will never release something special, only poor distract news.

I sense the smell of testosteron here 

Did that for 6 months

I think we all deserve the Zeuner report by now

What is going on here? Bad drugs? Please expend your efforts imagineering new ways to use our coin.

Good

Can't wait for the shitstorm

what a joke

Ur a poisonous scumbag wheatstain

lol says the cravecloaker. gtfo already troll.

I'm staking and happy. The market is coming. I know they are capable of the development behind it. These devs always deliver.

*edit* and seriously child you are going to make a shitstorm because of .4btc? I am not going to buy your silence. That is a disgusting offer.