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legendary
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Pecvniate obedivnt omnia.
any efforts right now will be wasted. i dont know how many times i have to repeat myself: only morons and gamblers are going to see an incomplete project in a vast ocean of scams as a good investment. we may pick up 1 or 2 people every week, but the vast majority of people see no benefit in buying SDC right now.

Why? Why would adding things like the market make one bit of difference to a CURRENCY's long term prospects. Right now, the coin is "done" and anything else is just "stuff" built on top of it. It's an anonymous currency that can be used by the masses. Things like the market are only going to create a bump in the price and will simply be home for mostly things like SilkRoad. The masses won't care about those things, they're going to want a coin they can use to buy real things with simply and fast. The coin is ready to do that now without any "fluff". 99% of the coins out now will always be "failures" because they have no plan or effort for adoption. How many faucets are there for SDC right now? How many gambling sites and/or games can you use SDC on? That's just basic crypto stuff and SDC has pretty much none of that. Until people stop waiting for more "stuff" and actually start getting it adopted, it's never going to be more than just another coin to trade on exchanges. The coin doesn't need investors, it needs adoption.

Are you claiming faucets, games, and gambling make coins? Half of the coins out there have these things, but I wouldn't go about claiming those to be successful. In my opinion, for a coin to be successful it needs to have it's own ecosystem. When the market is released and the SDK is put together, then we can see this come to fruition.

That's not what I said. Reread it.

You claim we need adoption. I claim that adoption will come as more things are released. Pushing for adoption too early can be dangerous. Satoshi warned against it with bitcoin and I agree with that. Just let things develop naturally. No need to force anything on this baby coin.

The thing is, the project will never really be done. Going back and reading stuff shortly after the ShadowSend2 release, it appears that it's not the final version and that there will be a ShadowSend3 and maybe even 4. There will always be things that can be added and updated. Taking a "if we build it they will come" approach rarely works and I've been involved in a number of projects outside this realm that have proved that time and time again. At it's core, SDC is a currency meant to buy and sell things. That's "done" and so there's no reason for there not to be an effort for more adoption and real world use. Adoption is a slow process and should be constantly ongoing.

As for waiting for the marketplace, NXT has a marketplace. I haven't got myself back up to speed on that project but it seems to have had little effect on that coins adoption. Maybe it's too limited or something, as I said I haven't got back up to speed on that coin. At least from a price standpoint, it's around 3700 now and late last year when I was trading it, it was around the 5000-6000 mark. So really, thinking that the market will somehow change the coins adoption/popularity appears to be just based in wishful thinking.

At a quick glance, the nxt marketplace requires a seperate software download and only has games, music, and ebooks as categories. It also doesn't offer the same anonymity as sdc.

I had a look at that site as well.  However, today I finally got all the NXT blockchain downloaded and had a look around. There's a marketplace built into the wallet with 671 products for sale. A heck of a lot of domains for sale. Services like FB likes, some physical products, steam keys for games etc. It says there's been 759 purchases to date but not sure where they all are. Someone sold something like 54 copies of some their music for 99 NXT a pop. Some t-shirts have been sold. There's some drugs for sale but didn't see any sales. Funniest one I think was someone bought "how to make 1kg of TNT" info. lol

Overall, not very encouraging but not sure how long it's been out. Usability isn't all that great but I find that with any of these browser based interfaces like NXT, Counterparty etc.
I had a look at that Bitbay or whatever its called and it looked so rushed and incomplete.
Shadow is doing things right.
they are not rushing but building a product that is ready for the mainstream user.
others are just trying to be first.
we are trying and will be the best, that is the difference.
shadow does things the right way from the start so the job does not have to be repeated.
that is why we have moved so quickly with development in the last 6 months
and we still manage to be first in so many things.
Just more evidence that the shadow is the future.
If we have the market and android wallets out by September and even better if we have the market in the mobile wallets , we will be safe, September is the make or break month.
sr. member
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any efforts right now will be wasted. i dont know how many times i have to repeat myself: only morons and gamblers are going to see an incomplete project in a vast ocean of scams as a good investment. we may pick up 1 or 2 people every week, but the vast majority of people see no benefit in buying SDC right now.

Why? Why would adding things like the market make one bit of difference to a CURRENCY's long term prospects. Right now, the coin is "done" and anything else is just "stuff" built on top of it. It's an anonymous currency that can be used by the masses. Things like the market are only going to create a bump in the price and will simply be home for mostly things like SilkRoad. The masses won't care about those things, they're going to want a coin they can use to buy real things with simply and fast. The coin is ready to do that now without any "fluff". 99% of the coins out now will always be "failures" because they have no plan or effort for adoption. How many faucets are there for SDC right now? How many gambling sites and/or games can you use SDC on? That's just basic crypto stuff and SDC has pretty much none of that. Until people stop waiting for more "stuff" and actually start getting it adopted, it's never going to be more than just another coin to trade on exchanges. The coin doesn't need investors, it needs adoption.

Are you claiming faucets, games, and gambling make coins? Half of the coins out there have these things, but I wouldn't go about claiming those to be successful. In my opinion, for a coin to be successful it needs to have it's own ecosystem. When the market is released and the SDK is put together, then we can see this come to fruition.

That's not what I said. Reread it.

You claim we need adoption. I claim that adoption will come as more things are released. Pushing for adoption too early can be dangerous. Satoshi warned against it with bitcoin and I agree with that. Just let things develop naturally. No need to force anything on this baby coin.

The thing is, the project will never really be done. Going back and reading stuff shortly after the ShadowSend2 release, it appears that it's not the final version and that there will be a ShadowSend3 and maybe even 4. There will always be things that can be added and updated. Taking a "if we build it they will come" approach rarely works and I've been involved in a number of projects outside this realm that have proved that time and time again. At it's core, SDC is a currency meant to buy and sell things. That's "done" and so there's no reason for there not to be an effort for more adoption and real world use. Adoption is a slow process and should be constantly ongoing.

As for waiting for the marketplace, NXT has a marketplace. I haven't got myself back up to speed on that project but it seems to have had little effect on that coins adoption. Maybe it's too limited or something, as I said I haven't got back up to speed on that coin. At least from a price standpoint, it's around 3700 now and late last year when I was trading it, it was around the 5000-6000 mark. So really, thinking that the market will somehow change the coins adoption/popularity appears to be just based in wishful thinking.

At a quick glance, the nxt marketplace requires a seperate software download and only has games, music, and ebooks as categories. It also doesn't offer the same anonymity as sdc.

I had a look at that site as well.  However, today I finally got all the NXT blockchain downloaded and had a look around. There's a marketplace built into the wallet with 671 products for sale. A heck of a lot of domains for sale. Services like FB likes, some physical products, steam keys for games etc. It says there's been 759 purchases to date but not sure where they all are. Someone sold something like 54 copies of some their music for 99 NXT a pop. Some t-shirts have been sold. There's some drugs for sale but didn't see any sales. Funniest one I think was someone bought "how to make 1kg of TNT" info. lol

Overall, not very encouraging but not sure how long it's been out. Usability isn't all that great but I find that with any of these browser based interfaces like NXT, Counterparty etc.
sr. member
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Is everyone just being paranoid? lol

Everyone is being super paranoid. And some are super quick to point fingers.

Yes, and the real crook is watching that and getting his rocks off. Don't give him the satisfaction.

amen.

i hope you dump my coins back to me duesch. take my $$$ idgaf,  broke scammer taught me a valuable lesson. id love for you to try to actually come take my shit in person. lol

you have my address Wink or i should say addresses

i know for a fact, it was in the pgp txt u probably swept , with my private keys. u have my real email as well. if you can trigger my blockchain data when i hadnt even accessed blockchain on this new/bugged computer....makes me wonder, there is only one other way.

too scared to login to any of my accounts without TOR/VPN....sad sad. passwords are all still the same. Wink

last time ill be posting about this dumb move on my part
sr. member
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when will the price finally go up again  Huh

on the 12th of never  Grin
sr. member
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when will the price finally go up again  Huh
hero member
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Is everyone just being paranoid? lol

Everyone is being super paranoid. And some are super quick to point fingers.

Yes, and the real crook is watching that and getting his rocks off. Don't give him the satisfaction.
legendary
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In my roaming folder i have sp_data.sys what is it??  Undecided

i believe mine is a video driver....google has me fucked up/paranoid.

i opened the file in a text editor and it was settings for my display it seems. still going to give asus a call

DBAN pc. Kills all known germs, dead.

http://www.dban.org/

best get it from here

http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=dban&platform=Windows%2CMac%2CiOS%2CAndroid%2CWebware%2CMobile&searchtype=downloads

They tend to check downloads before distributing them
sr. member
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Is everyone just being paranoid? lol

Everyone is being super paranoid. And some are super quick to point fingers.
The finger pointing is just the most awful low effort. Looking at you skip. Really?  How about this: I'm a 100% sure it was Skip60. Fkn dickhead.
hero member
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Is everyone just being paranoid? lol

Everyone is being super paranoid. And some are super quick to point fingers.
sr. member
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Is everyone just being paranoid? lol
sr. member
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In my roaming folder i have sp_data.sys what is it??  Undecided

i believe mine is a video driver....google has me fucked up/paranoid.

i opened the file in a text editor and it was settings for my display it seems. still going to give asus a call
sr. member
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In my roaming folder i have sp_data.sys what is it??  Undecided
sr. member
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What is all this now? I did nothing. Literally, I have been in an MCSA bootcamp for days.

*edit* just crawled through all the trash posts from skip60 and others...

My original post contains the same source as the post from sdcoin and anyone can check that with a fucking f12 push on the keyboard. But maybe there is some magic happening somewhere? Just not on my quote. And I definitely am not capable of doing something malicious especially with code.

I don't think any of us believe you're behind it (except perhaps Skip60). I personally don't, for what it worth.
It was not cool accusing you.

 Chill bro  Wink!
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Bitcoin & Litecoin Accepted Here

Funny you should quote that:
This is happening live: http://www.c-span.org/video/?326084-1/senator-rand-paul-rky-nsa-surveillance&live

Rand Paul talking about NSA backdoors

Quote
"THIS WAS IN AN OP-ED IN "THE L.A. TIMES" IN DECEMBER. "BUILDING A BACK DOOR INTO EVERY CELL PHONE, TABLET, OR LAPTOP MEANS DELIBERATELY CREATING WEAKNESSES THAT HACKERS AND FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS CAN EXPLOIT."
hero member
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Avatars are overrated.
What is all this now? I did nothing. Literally, I have been in an MCSA bootcamp for days.

*edit* just crawled through all the trash posts from skip60 and others...

My original post contains the same source as the post from sdcoin and anyone can check that with a fucking f12 push on the keyboard. But maybe there is some magic happening somewhere? Just not on my quote. And I definitely am not capable of doing something malicious especially with code.
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Could it be the boot sector of your HD is infected? You would need to re-write your mbr to remove it. Would be unusual though.
sr. member
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hero member
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A rootkit would be wiped by a format would it not?
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just reformatted my laptop...the new one that got bugged....For some reason this file still pops up in my roaming...

Is my computer toasted already? Huh Huh



ive been googling it and it doesnt sound good

If you're going to reformat, and you prefer Linux anyway, you know what to do...

No, I already reformatted, but this file is still popping up....The decision is whether or not to return this laptop. No doubt im going linux but is my computer itself completely compromised? From what ive read i have a brutal rootkit -_-

I did the reformat option in the windows 8.1 settings. Complete reformat of everything. Idk if thats enough -_-

You didn't do a real format. If you do a low-level format everything on the HD is gone and you will need a Windows disk to reinstall Windows. The only thing that could survive that or a Linux format/install is a virus that infected the BIOS or the HD firmware. They exist, but this probably isn't that.
sr. member
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just reformatted my laptop...the new one that got bugged....For some reason this file still pops up in my roaming...

Is my computer toasted already? Huh Huh



ive been googling it and it doesnt sound good

If you're going to reformat, and you prefer Linux anyway, you know what to do...

No, I already reformatted, but this file is still popping up....The decision is whether or not to return this laptop. No doubt im going linux but is my computer itself completely compromised? From what ive read i have a brutal rootkit -_-

I did the reformat option in the windows 8.1 settings. Complete reformat of everything. Idk if thats enough -_-
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