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sr. member
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December 13, 2014, 02:23:44 PM

No one is selling, atleast I wouldn't xD

Not at this stage


selling? You should forget this word here, Sdc is the best investment in crypto. It's obviously.
I can trade and sell another coins to increase my investments and investments of my partners in SDC, and only Shadows i'm constantly buying.


I would not buy one Shadow anymore.

This coin just acts like all the others.

First stage - Hardworking Devs on a coin, developing stuff ...
Second stage - to get the coin going it needs one big feature that dwarfs everything, to attract each and every idiot in the market (-> Zero Knowledge Transactions)
Third - Delays, Some things turn out to be not true, developers will communicate less and less
Fourth -  Price declines massively - Dead Coin.

It happened with almost every coin, it will happen with this one too.

You can believe in this coin all you want - in the end you will be sitting in front of your desk devastated because you didn't get the news of the delay

YeahYeah BlaBlaBla - you believe in this Coin - Why?
Does it have nice Pictures? Yes
Did developers bring forward new features? Yes
Do they have a closed source on the ZK tech? Yes

Guess what... up to 6 Coins did the same thing before - exactly the same stuff - but you are here thinking this is the one.


Sell - go home - Trade on wallstreet, not on this playground for children.

LOL this guy from anon coin is pissed off, no suprise. Sorry your team dropped the ball on you my friend. I understand why you are so butthurt  Wink
sr. member
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December 13, 2014, 02:15:23 PM

No one is selling, atleast I wouldn't xD

Not at this stage


selling? You should forget this word here, Sdc is the best investment in crypto. It's obviously.
I can trade and sell another coins to increase my investments and investments of my partners in SDC, and only Shadows i'm constantly buying.


I would not buy one Shadow anymore.

This coin just acts like all the others.

First stage - Hardworking Devs on a coin, developing stuff ...
Second stage - to get the coin going it needs one big feature that dwarfs everything, to attract each and every idiot in the market (-> Zero Knowledge Transactions)
Third - Delays, Some things turn out to be not true, developers will communicate less and less
Fourth -  Price declines massively - Dead Coin.

It happened with almost every coin, it will happen with this one too.

You can believe in this coin all you want - in the end you will be sitting in front of your desk devastated because you didn't get the news of the delay

YeahYeah BlaBlaBla - you believe in this Coin - Why?
Does it have nice Pictures? Yes
Did developers bring forward new features? Yes
Do they have a closed source on the ZK tech? Yes

Guess what... up to 6 Coins did the same thing before - exactly the same stuff - but you are here thinking this is the one.


Sell - go home - Trade on wallstreet, not on this playground for children.
hero member
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★ IT's Party Time! ★
December 13, 2014, 02:08:27 PM

No one is selling, atleast I wouldn't xD

Not at this stage


selling? You should forget this word here, Sdc is the best investment in crypto. It's obviously.
I can trade and sell another coins to increase my investments and investments of my partners in SDC, and only Shadows i'm constantly buying.
legendary
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December 13, 2014, 01:24:01 PM


No one is selling, atleast I wouldn't xD

Not at this stage
sr. member
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Merit: 250
December 13, 2014, 12:58:57 PM
So here is a question I've been curious about for a long time.

I've seen what feels like hundreds of people now,  show up here and in IRC,  say hopeful things about the project and also say that they are ready to buy and will soon as ZK is out mainnet after SDC has essentially fully proven itself.

I feel like I have literally seen this sentiment well over a hundred times (likely way more).   So my question is what the hell are these people going to do when ZK launches?  They do realize there is only 6.5M coins?   And that as it would seem the vast majority of them seem to be in very strong hands.      So what is going to happen?  If you look at the order books there is no supply.   I'm sure if we blast through 30k and get up to 50k-70k etc   Some people will ROI, or eventually sell off,  However I feel the buyers demands will vastly, Vastly outweigh the sellers even at prices several times higher than now.

So my question is, is almost everyone going to miss the boat?   There have been plenty of chances to get >20k SD, and even more chances to grab it between 20-30k.  

Are most of them going to miss the boat entirely?  And be forced to kick themselves in the as forever like I do about my BTC stash before it went above $5.00 ^.^

I'm just generally curious what you think is going to happen.

The answer to your question:



Pretty much this.
hero member
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December 13, 2014, 12:56:30 PM
So here is a question I've been curious about for a long time.

I've seen what feels like hundreds of people now,  show up here and in IRC,  say hopeful things about the project and also say that they are ready to buy and will soon as ZK is out mainnet after SDC has essentially fully proven itself.

I feel like I have literally seen this sentiment well over a hundred times (likely way more).   So my question is what the hell are these people going to do when ZK launches?  They do realize there is only 6.5M coins?   And that as it would seem the vast majority of them seem to be in very strong hands.      So what is going to happen?  If you look at the order books there is no supply.   I'm sure if we blast through 30k and get up to 50k-70k etc   Some people will ROI, or eventually sell off,  However I feel the buyers demands will vastly, Vastly outweigh the sellers even at prices several times higher than now.

So my question is, is almost everyone going to miss the boat?   There have been plenty of chances to get >20k SD, and even more chances to grab it between 20-30k.  

Are most of them going to miss the boat entirely?  And be forced to kick themselves in the as forever like I do about my BTC stash before it went above $5.00 ^.^

I'm just generally curious what you think is going to happen.

The answer to your question:

legendary
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einc.io
December 13, 2014, 12:35:43 PM
So here is a question I've been curious about for a long time.

I've seen what feels like hundreds of people now,  show up here and in IRC,  say hopeful things about the project and also say that they are ready to buy and will soon as ZK is out mainnet after SDC has essentially fully proven itself.

I feel like I have literally seen this sentiment well over a hundred times (likely way more).   So my question is what the hell are these people going to do when ZK launches?  They do realize there is only 6.5M coins?   And that as it would seem the vast majority of them seem to be in very strong hands.      So what is going to happen?  If you look at the order books there is no supply.   I'm sure if we blast through 30k and get up to 50k-70k etc   Some people will ROI, or eventually sell off,  However I feel the buyers demands will vastly, Vastly outweigh the sellers even at prices several times higher than now.

So my question is, is almost everyone going to miss the boat?   There have been plenty of chances to get >20k SD, and even more chances to grab it between 20-30k. 

Are most of them going to miss the boat entirely?  And be forced to kick themselves in the as forever like I do about my BTC stash before it went above $5.00 ^.^

I'm just generally curious what you think is going to happen.
hero member
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December 13, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
@ LucyLovesCrypto

Testnet has finished. Waiting for imminent release of whitpaper and new ZK wallets, which will be on github. The Dev (Ryno) can often be found in irc and is always helpful.

This ain't Cloak, it's Shadow  Cool


Thank you very much! I am happy to hear this (especially the GitHub part)

Once zk releases on mainnet (open source) I see some generous tips in the future for the dev team.

You guys are great!

CORRECTION: The github statement of mine was my assumption. I just went on irc to confirm with members of the Team whether this is in fact correct or not.

The reply I got was that "no final decision's been made on that yet".

Sorry I spoke out of turn.

Having said that I have little doubt ShadowSend v2 will be open-sourced in the fullness of time.
hero member
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December 13, 2014, 11:47:39 AM
@ LucyLovesCrypto

Testnet has finished. Waiting for imminent release of whitpaper and new ZK wallets, which will be on github. The Dev (Ryno) can often be found in irc and is always helpful.

This ain't Cloak, it's Shadow  Cool


Thank you very much! I am happy to hear this (especially the GitHub part)

Once zk releases on mainnet (open source) I see some generous tips in the future for the dev team.

You guys are great!

Lucy, Shadowcash won't be opensourced near time.
This will avoid the appearance of clones. Because we all know that SDC techs are superior
sr. member
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December 13, 2014, 11:34:33 AM
@ LucyLovesCrypto

Testnet has finished. Waiting for imminent release of whitpaper and new ZK wallets, which will be on github. The Dev (Ryno) can often be found in irc and is always helpful.

This ain't Cloak, it's Shadow  Cool


Thank you very much! I am happy to hear this (especially the GitHub part)

Once zk releases on mainnet (open source) I see some generous tips in the future for the dev team.

You guys are great!
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 500
December 13, 2014, 11:19:22 AM
@ LucyLovesCrypto

Testnet has finished. Waiting for imminent release of whitpaper and new ZK wallets, which will be on github.

This ain't Cloak, it's Shadow  Cool

WE ARE.....
hero member
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Merit: 1000
December 13, 2014, 11:16:23 AM
@ LucyLovesCrypto

Testnet has finished. Waiting for imminent release of whitpaper and new ZK wallets, which will be on github. The Dev (Ryno) can often be found in irc and is always helpful.

This ain't Cloak, it's Shadow  Cool
sr. member
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Merit: 251
December 13, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
I love the mobile wallet (released) and stealth addresses (released and open source) but have several questions:

1. All the marketing efforts seem similar to CLOAK (Cloaktalk vs. Shadowtalk, One Market vs Shadow Bay, similar websites and writing styles for press releases, etc). Is the marketing team for SDC the same as it was for CLOAK? (I know the dev team including Ryno and technovert is different).

2. While the current stealth address tech is open source (thanks!) the ZK release in beta is not. Is there a reason for this? It seems to me that by putting the beta code in GitHub, progress could be made faster and any potential problems before public release would be more likely to be found. While a whitepaper is great, the community needs to see actual (zero knowledge) code to make sure it works as designed and is safe.

Thanks in advance!

1. The marketing team is not the same as it was for CLOAK. Shadow have actually marketed the coin vastly different to the approach CLOAK took which was based on deadlines and a lot of hype. Shadow has survived all these months by letting the features they developed do the talking. In particular, ShadowChat encrypted chat, HTML5 PoS Lite wallet, stealth addresses and soon true anon in the form of zk transactions.

2. I'm not sure if the code will become open source straight away. The devs have put hundreds of coding hours into producing their zk implementation, if it was open straight away the tech will be copied into other coins pretty fast as happened with rynos stealth addresses. The code will likely be audited by someone reputable whilst closed, hopefully not too long after we will see open release. This seems a fair approach.

I agree the tech so far has been great. I also agree with you that no hard deadlines is more healthy for the coin.

My only concern is your comments about not going open source until "hopefully not too long after we will see open release" because it sounds a lot like CLOAK told people about PoSa.

I also am 99.99% that CloakTalk forms were started by the same person that started ShadowTalk forums. That is okay, because this person is knowledgeable and seems to have the best interests of SDC at heart. I just with the marketing team would be more transparent about their involvement in prior projects. Some of us like what we see but still have concerns about open source of zk project and flashbacks to promises regarding PoSA and One Market.

It would also be nice if the dev would pop in and give us more information about how the testnet is going. IRC is not always helpful in providing these details and not everyone can camp there out all day hoping to learn something when it could be revealed here, Reddit, or ShadowTalk much easier.

Thanks again!
sr. member
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December 13, 2014, 10:01:28 AM

You know your balance goes down when you stake right? Have you made sure you are even on the right block. Look at your wallet and correlate it with the block explorer.
http://bit.ly/12D3X2W


Yes, I know. Thanks for link to repairwallet command, that fixed it. Really appreciated, thanks man! (even though the LMGTFY wasn't neccessary, hehe)

Also thanks everybody who threw in their advice – great support :]


Let me google that for you makes me laugh every-time Grin
member
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December 13, 2014, 09:49:07 AM
I love the mobile wallet (released) and stealth addresses (released and open source) but have several questions:

1. All the marketing efforts seem similar to CLOAK (Cloaktalk vs. Shadowtalk, One Market vs Cloak Bay, similar websites and writing styles for press releases, etc). Is the marketing team for SDC the same as it was for CLOAK? (I know the dev team including Ryno and technovert is different).

2. While the current stealth address tech is open source (thanks!) the ZK release in beta is not. Is there a reason for this? It seems to me that by putting the beta code in GitHub, progress could be made faster and any potential problems before public release would be more likely to be found. While a whitepaper is great, the community needs to see actual (zero knowledge) code to make sure it works as designed and is safe.

Thanks in advance!

1. The marketing team is not the same as it was for CLOAK. Shadow have actually marketed the coin vastly different to the approach CLOAK took which was based on deadlines and a lot of hype. Shadow has survived all these months by letting the features they developed do the talking. In particular, ShadowChat encrypted chat, HTML5 PoS Lite wallet, stealth addresses and soon true anon in the form of zk transactions.

2. I'm not sure if the code will become open source straight away. The devs have put hundreds of coding hours into producing their zk implementation, if it was open straight away the tech will be copied into other coins pretty fast as happened with rynos stealth addresses. The code will likely be audited by someone reputable whilst closed, hopefully not too long after we will see open release. This seems a fair approach.
sr. member
Activity: 414
Merit: 251
December 13, 2014, 09:27:36 AM
I love the mobile wallet (released) and stealth addresses (released and open source) but have several questions:

1. All the marketing efforts seem similar to CLOAK (Cloaktalk vs. Shadowtalk, One Market vs Shadow Bay, similar websites and writing styles for press releases, etc). Is the marketing team for SDC the same as it was for CLOAK? (I know the dev team including Ryno and technovert is different).

2. While the current stealth address tech is open source (thanks!) the ZK release in beta is not. Is there a reason for this? It seems to me that by putting the beta code in GitHub, progress could be made faster and any potential problems before public release would be more likely to be found. While a whitepaper is great, the community needs to see actual (zero knowledge) code to make sure it works as designed and is safe.

Thanks in advance!
newbie
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December 13, 2014, 02:57:34 AM
Bye bye trolls. Huh
legendary
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einc.io
December 13, 2014, 02:50:02 AM
Now look at the order book....   Supply is drying up.  Only one way to go!
sr. member
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December 12, 2014, 10:38:09 PM
Hey guys, I have a problem – some time ago, I bought SDC, moved it to my wallet and have been staking since then.

I'm on Windows now and have a slight issue that when I'm AFK for a long time, my OS goes to sleep but can't be woken up, so I have to hard restart it.
That happened just now and when I opened my wallet, I see that my wallet shows almost 6.400 SDC less than I should have (that never happened before).

My wallet is in sync, there are no outgoing transactions in my wallet and I'm kinda freaking out.
Can somebody tell me what happened or how to advance? You can imagine how unpleasant that is.

Are you running ShadowLite? I've had issues with transactions not syncing or showing up in lite mode. I always had to restart the program to show the transactions that came in.

Yes, I'm running lite with staking. Also encrypted (dunno if that helps).

It's not about not showing up some recent transactions, I had that balance for a pretty long time now..

Can anyone point me on how to repair the wallet? I've tried restarting it a few times already.

You know your balance goes down when you stake right? Have you made sure you are even on the right block. Look at your wallet and correlate it with the block explorer.
http://bit.ly/12D3X2W


Yes, I know. Thanks for link to repairwallet command, that fixed it. Really appreciated, thanks man! (even though the LMGTFY wasn't neccessary, hehe)

Also thanks everybody who threw in their advice – great support :]
sr. member
Activity: 476
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December 12, 2014, 05:05:08 PM
Hey guys, I have a problem – some time ago, I bought SDC, moved it to my wallet and have been staking since then.

I'm on Windows now and have a slight issue that when I'm AFK for a long time, my OS goes to sleep but can't be woken up, so I have to hard restart it.
That happened just now and when I opened my wallet, I see that my wallet shows almost 6.400 SDC less than I should have (that never happened before).

My wallet is in sync, there are no outgoing transactions in my wallet and I'm kinda freaking out.
Can somebody tell me what happened or how to advance? You can imagine how unpleasant that is.

Are you running ShadowLite? I've had issues with transactions not syncing or showing up in lite mode. I always had to restart the program to show the transactions that came in.

Yes, I'm running lite with staking. Also encrypted (dunno if that helps).

It's not about not showing up some recent transactions, I had that balance for a pretty long time now..

Can anyone point me on how to repair the wallet? I've tried restarting it a few times already.

I think your best option is to backup the wallet.dat first, and then remove everything EXCEPT the wallet.dat from %appdata%/roaming/shadowcoin. Just a normal resync.
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