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gotcha, thanks for the feedback.  I guess that's why I multi table 9max, so that it keeps up the pace.

9max is boring, you can hardly play a hand. I like anything between 2-6.

Just curious, why the preference for 6max over 9max?

Thanks Micon for keeping us in the loop.

Is it possible to have some more tables that are always open? Every session I have to open the 5-10 10-20 25-50 50-100 6maxtables. Would love to see them open anyway. People often prefer 6max anyway.

Got a weird bug today with the new client.  Hand #11327235-473 I posted the BB but was dealt no cards.  I did not think to go options > refresh table, but if it ever happens again I will try that.  The hand history did not get saved, I had to pull the number out of the chat.  It may be because a waitlisted table opened at the same time the hand was dealt?

I think 3000 starting stacks and 10 minute levels would be great for 100 buy-in and up tournaments, at least some of them.

Almost all of my play has been at ring games since I joined.  But recently I've played a few tournaments for variety or when there aren't ring games going. 

I don't want to complain because I love the site, I love the improvements, and I'm excited to see the new updates to the client.  But I have to agree that the 1500 structures really don't allow for much play.

I wouldn't want to make them slow and have them last forever but I do think they need a few more chips in play.  The 1500 structure would work for tournaments with hundreds of players where enough people bust out early and increase the average stack before the blinds get too high.  But for tournaments with 10 to 30 players it just doesn't seem like enough. 

I think even increasing to 2000 stacks with 8 minute blinds would be an improvement. 

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- we have seen the disconnects.  I have experienced them personally:





I see the players complaining about this, and you guys are correct - it's too frequent - the team has re-focussed onto this issue.

understand we don't have the underlying issue fixed yet, but we have a "band-aid"

So this version, when disconnected briefly, will not kick you out and make you log in again.  Note that I want to be very clear and up front that we have NOT solved the underlying issue yet.  I know that is non-standard and most businesses would tell you "it's all good, we're playing great" but that seems dishonest to me, and with that disclaimer please take this "nodcdetect" version of the SwC PC client:

Please also report any issues you have with this version.  The boys are working on it:

https://sealswithclubs.eu/pcclient/swc_client-win%20v0.2.14-nodcdetect.zip

 tyvm for feedback.  We are certainly listening, and in response to the call for "higher buy in deep-aments" we dropped the nightly 10pm ET / 7pm PT 6k gaur "deep6" 600 chip buyin with 3k starting and 12 minute levels.   We have seen a nice response to this MTT and will be looking to make more 3000 chip MTTs, although I think 3k starting / 10 minute levels is plenty for ~100 chip MTTs.  We are actively thinking about and refining the schedule.  Should see it stabilize over the next few weeks as we make small adjustments to get it tight.

Hi

I like the 4k increase in chips. Can you guys please add some more tourneys with deepstacks players would really like to see this in more tournaments. The current 1500 strutctures make the games really less of a skill factor and more of a turbo bingo fest. I hope you can add a few more of the deepstacks please. Thanks.

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Freemoney states about that we busted 27 cheater accounts.  Affected players were refunded. 

SealsWithClubs has taken the "we do not bullshit our players" attitude, so let me state plainly:

1)  Cheaters will have their coins confiscated and returned to the cheated
2)  We promise to police our games and always "make it right" when we find wrongdoing. 
3)  IMO a few vocal players started a rumor about widespread, rampant collusion which is simply untrue.
4)  I have recently started cleaning up my DonkDown forums.  This was done partly because I want an uncensored place for players to quickly post-dump HH's & usernames when they feel wrongdoing is occurring on SwC.  Certainly you should firstly msg [email protected] if you ever suspect anything, but if you also post the accusation publicly then I and anyone else can examine evidence. 

I care deeply about keeping games fair.  I wouldn't put my face on a site that didn't keep player funds 100% segregated or allowed cheating or collusion.  I think SwC is solving huge issues players faced with traditional sites.  I will not stand for scumbags trying to ruin that.

The reason it appears that players are doing the policing is that it isn't a serious issue to spew accusations in the chat. Writing emails with suspicions is helpful, but involves no risk. We have to do a careful study before taking action. If we think there is a 95% chance that isn't good enough, we aren't going to close accounts and take funds from the 5% who happen to play together often and irregularly for innocent reasons.

We've always had more NLHE action than PLO, but right now there are 4 games over .25/.5 running and a LO8 25/50 running.

We removed 27 clearly cheating accounts that played PLO in June and July, that's certainly going to decrease the raw numbers, but the legitimate play is steady.

Cheating is more powerful in Omaha games for sure, but the only way to completely eliminate your chance of being cheated is not to play with more than one stranger. If anyone knows enough players that they want to distribute a password to I will set private games at any stakes, just email [email protected] or PM me. I'm not convinced many games can form that way, but if it because popular to play that way we can automate private game creation as well.

These being the games where collusion is most deadly, without strongly enforcing anti-collusion rules, you're going to have games full of cheaters.  Each cheating player gets to know four hole cards so even three cheaters know twelve cards between them.  Plus the pot-limit structure makes it a lot easier for cheaters to whipsaw the chump in between.  There are a lot of situations where in a no-limit game, a player would simply shove, but in pot-limit, it's not suspicious to raise less than all-in, since you actually can't. 

It is no wonder under these circumstances that these games are dead.  An honest player is a complete sitting duck.  While Seals has been pretty good about compensating players for this kind of shit, it has basically been on the players to catch the cheats.  You might get your money back, but there is just no fun in playing what may be a crooked game.  I don't know how sites like Stars handled this internally back in the day, and frankly, I saw some pretty suspicious PLO/PLO8 action even there from time to time, but maybe they need some kind of full-time "cop" watching the action.  To nail down cheats in any reasonable length of time (without losing stack after stack to them), you either need blatantly fishy action (which a good cheat won't give you) or real-time monitoring of hands. 

I certainly wouldn't assume nobody is cheating in the NLHE games but it gets the cheats less of an advantage and, for whatever reason, most NLHE cheats seem to really suck at poker and lose anyway.

OR the same tournament [I hope!]

OK by me.
But you guyz better have a full-on nazi-ass chip-dumping policy in writing.



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has it DAWNED on u or Micon
that PLO and/or PLO/8 cash games above 50max JUST PLAIN DIED???