wow! traffic has increased lately, also the new pc client is nice.
Grats team SealsWithClubs!
Grats team SealsWithClubs!
Tytyty
Big btc in a few!
40 btc guar / 1 btc entry
Topic: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts - page 229. (Read 1404011 times)
April 28, 2013, 02:54:02 PM
Tytyty
Big btc in a few!
40 btc guar / 1 btc entry
April 27, 2013, 05:09:43 PM
^^ I thought you were HankWhite when I saw that avatar.
I'm such an idiot, I just realized that if I disable my bookmark and addon bar, I can tile 4 tables in the browser version.
I'm such an idiot, I just realized that if I disable my bookmark and addon bar, I can tile 4 tables in the browser version.
April 27, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
Today I realized I suck at poker.
April 26, 2013, 09:52:19 PM
wow! traffic has increased lately, also the new pc client is nice.
Grats team SealsWithClubs!
Grats team SealsWithClubs!
April 26, 2013, 08:35:22 PM
seals is awesome ..!!!
April 26, 2013, 12:10:55 PM
If you want me to leave then stop responding to me, imbecile.
You have said you plan to play no more at Seals. Seals is what we are here to talk about.
And now your posts are off topic spam, and finally you have defacto admitted to trolling. Reported.
April 26, 2013, 06:55:35 AM
Please be sure to let us all know when you're playing on SwC, I'm sure many people here would love to play you. 
That made absolutely no sense. Why the fuck would I be on SWC?
Don't know, please move on and stop polluting this thread...
Why are you responding to a question that wasn't addressed to you?
LOL,
A) your question wasn't addressed to anyone
B) why address a question to someone in a public forum and get mad when someone else responds???
oops... should I have not responded?
Please leave here dude...
April 26, 2013, 05:45:58 AM
Please be sure to let us all know when you're playing on SwC, I'm sure many people here would love to play you.
That made absolutely no sense. Why the fuck would I be on SWC?
Don't know, please move on and stop polluting this thread...
April 26, 2013, 03:02:05 AM
Had an awesome night tonight...
April 25, 2013, 07:56:19 PM
Please be sure to let us all know when you're playing on SwC, I'm sure many people here would love to play you.
April 25, 2013, 07:20:56 PM
This is the conclusion I've arrived at after all the research I've done, considering various opinions, and my own careful monitoring of the many thousands of hands I've played during the past year on sealswithclubs.
LOL, another rigtard. I'm tired of people casually insulting the integrity of the most successful BTC poker site out there. "Careful monitoring of thousands of hands"? LOL again -- under 10k hands isn't enough to prove a consistent +/- EV (what do you need: at least 20-30k hands for that?) so it's probably not enough to determine statistical anomalies either. In any case, how about you put up or shut up? Show us a graph from hand history software that proves a statistical anomaly. Opinions? Opinions are worth nothing. Numbers are everything.there is evidence but it's not worth the trouble [...]
Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.As WiseOldOwl said, they make money from rake, from everybody. It'd be ridiculous and stupid for them to rig anything, just like it'd be ridiculous and stupid for Vegas to rig live games. They don't need to -- they make plenty of money being legit, and risking their reputation to make a few extra bucks would be killing the golden goose. Hell, they've lowered the rake twice now. If they were so greedy as to rig the site, why would they have ever done that even once?
SealsWithClubs uses Poker Mavens software, which has a very solid card shuffling algorithm. Furthermore, it is closed source, and as such they cannot mess with the way it generates hands of poker.
Keep talking out of your ass, douche. You won't change my mind and the minds of many who feel it is rigged, now fuck off.
April 25, 2013, 06:51:49 PM
This is the conclusion I've arrived at after all the research I've done, considering various opinions, and my own careful monitoring of the many thousands of hands I've played during the past year on sealswithclubs.
LOL, another rigtard. I'm tired of people casually insulting the integrity of the most successful BTC poker site out there. "Careful monitoring of thousands of hands"? LOL again -- under 10k hands isn't enough to prove a consistent +/- EV (what do you need: at least 20-30k hands for that?) so it's probably not enough to determine statistical anomalies either. In any case, how about you put up or shut up? Show us a graph from hand history software that proves a statistical anomaly. Opinions? Opinions are worth nothing. Numbers are everything.there is evidence but it's not worth the trouble [...]
Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.As WiseOldOwl said, they make money from rake, from everybody. It'd be ridiculous and stupid for them to rig anything, just like it'd be ridiculous and stupid for Vegas to rig live games. They don't need to -- they make plenty of money being legit, and risking their reputation to make a few extra bucks would be killing the golden goose. Hell, they've lowered the rake twice now. If they were so greedy as to rig the site, why would they have ever done that even once?
SealsWithClubs uses Poker Mavens software, which has a very solid card shuffling algorithm. Furthermore, it is closed source, and as such they cannot mess with the way it generates hands of poker.
April 25, 2013, 02:32:46 PM
lol Challenging the legitimacy of a site just because you got bested is highly immature.
Not sure what you're talking about.
April 25, 2013, 01:43:46 PM
lol Challenging the legitimacy of a site just because you got bested is highly immature.
April 25, 2013, 10:55:12 AM
So long as you're the one making the rules, without having a single ounce of foundation for your self proclaimed authority, there's absolutely no point in reading the rest of your post.
April 25, 2013, 09:17:28 AM
there is evidence but it's not worth the trouble (and site owners know this) of instilling common sense in your willfully deluded brain. it's about as challenging as the argument about the existence of God. the evidence is there, but if you push it away, you're going to convince yourself He's not and you'll just end up totally irritating those who know He does.
with that said, there's no need to contest my opinions. but I know you won't even understand the logic that I posted them to inform others, not to debate with those who charge me for evidence yet have none of their own to support that the site is not actually rigged. but I'm sure you'll come up with some, won't you?
with that said, there's no need to contest my opinions. but I know you won't even understand the logic that I posted them to inform others, not to debate with those who charge me for evidence yet have none of their own to support that the site is not actually rigged. but I'm sure you'll come up with some, won't you?
Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
So long as you're the one making the rules, without having a single ounce of foundation for your self proclaimed authority, there's absolutely no point in reading the rest of your post.
April 25, 2013, 08:02:41 AM
there is evidence but it's not worth the trouble (and site owners know this) of instilling common sense in your willfully deluded brain. it's about as challenging as the argument about the existence of God. the evidence is there, but if you push it away, you're going to convince yourself He's not and you'll just end up totally irritating those who know He does.
with that said, there's no need to contest my opinions. but I know you won't even understand the logic that I posted them to inform others, not to debate with those who charge me for evidence yet have none of their own to support that the site is not actually rigged. but I'm sure you'll come up with some, won't you?
with that said, there's no need to contest my opinions. but I know you won't even understand the logic that I posted them to inform others, not to debate with those who charge me for evidence yet have none of their own to support that the site is not actually rigged. but I'm sure you'll come up with some, won't you?
Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You say you are trying to inform others. All you have to do is post your evidence and then it will be much more credible. Show your work is all I'm asking.
As for my evidence, all I can say is that I'm doing very well on Seals. I've tripled my initial btc buy from January, using very conservative bankroll management. There are days when nothing goes right and everyone catches whatever cards they need to win. If I didn't know better and only played with a few buy ins, I'd be wiped out by one of those days, and believing that it's rigged too. Instead I live to play again and get days where the deck hits me in the face all day instead of my opponents. All I need to know is that if I play better than they do, when the luck evens out I come out ahead. If I were unable to win over a large number of hands, the first thing I'd be looking at is how well I'm playing.
April 25, 2013, 04:38:25 AM
No. This is the conclusion I've arrived at after all the research I've done, considering various opinions, and my own careful monitoring of the many thousands of hands I've played during the past year on sealswithclubs. They most definitely are NOT running a legit poker site, in my opinion. Too bad there's nothing that can stop them from stealing as many bitcoins as they can suck out of people. Check out what somebody else said on Sealswithclubs' subReddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/SealsWithClubs/comments/1am4t2/i_dont_really_trust_the_swc_software_anymore/
With thousands of hands you should be able to do a statistical analysis and possibly demonstrate some evidence of bias, along with some measure of significance based on your sample size. Even then you would have some selection bias, since players who win or break even don't usually subject their hands to such analysis. So you should include a representative sample of all hands, not just your own.
With so many players playing, some people are going to have really bad luck, and those are going to go and post about it, while those with slightly bad to good luck won't. It may be very hard to win the lottery, but someone always does eventually. Similarly, it may be very unlikely to lose to a whole bunch of longshot draws, but it's going to happen to someone, due to the sheer number of hands played.
That's why you can't go by anecdotal evidence and opinions. You're always going to hear from the players who have experienced the worst luck.
there is evidence but it's not worth the trouble (and site owners know this) of instilling common sense in your willfully deluded brain. it's about as challenging as the argument about the existence of God. the evidence is there, but if you push it away, you're going to convince yourself He's not and you'll just end up totally irritating those who know He does.
with that said, there's no need to contest my opinions. but I know you won't even understand the logic that I posted them to inform others, not to debate with those who charge me for evidence yet have none of their own to support that the site is not actually rigged. but I'm sure you'll come up with some, won't you?
April 25, 2013, 01:21:57 AM
Live poker is rigged. I get the worst beats by these donkeys. On top of that the shuffle is not random. How could it be? You can see that the dealers hardly shuffle the cards enough for it to be random. No wonder I lose when I play live. Not only that but you can't keep track of the hands at a casino. I tried videoing the hands I was playing with my phone but the casino said I couldn't keep doing that. What are they trying to hide? They know I will find out it is rigged!!!! Beware!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 25, 2013, 12:36:06 AM
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