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legendary
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No. This is the conclusion I've arrived at after all the research I've done, considering various opinions, and my own careful monitoring of the many thousands of hands I've played during the past year on sealswithclubs. They most definitely are NOT running a legit poker site, in my opinion. Too bad there's nothing that can stop them from stealing as many bitcoins as they can suck out of people. Check out what somebody else said on Sealswithclubs' subReddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/SealsWithClubs/comments/1am4t2/i_dont_really_trust_the_swc_software_anymore/

With thousands of hands you should be able to do a statistical analysis and possibly demonstrate some evidence of bias, along with some measure of significance based on your sample size.  Even then you would have some selection bias, since players who win or break even don't usually subject their hands to such analysis.  So you should include a representative sample of all hands, not just your own.

With so many players playing, some people are going to have really bad luck, and those are going to go and post about it, while those with slightly bad to good luck won't.  It may be very hard to win the lottery, but someone always does eventually.  Similarly, it may be very unlikely to lose to a whole bunch of longshot draws, but it's going to happen to someone, due to the sheer number of hands played.

That's why you can't go by anecdotal evidence and opinions.  You're always going to hear from the players who have experienced the worst luck.

Yep yep, a sign of growth... that we have more people experiencing this level of luck!
member
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No. This is the conclusion I've arrived at after all the research I've done, considering various opinions, and my own careful monitoring of the many thousands of hands I've played during the past year on sealswithclubs. They most definitely are NOT running a legit poker site, in my opinion. Too bad there's nothing that can stop them from stealing as many bitcoins as they can suck out of people. Check out what somebody else said on Sealswithclubs' subReddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/SealsWithClubs/comments/1am4t2/i_dont_really_trust_the_swc_software_anymore/

With thousands of hands you should be able to do a statistical analysis and possibly demonstrate some evidence of bias, along with some measure of significance based on your sample size.  Even then you would have some selection bias, since players who win or break even don't usually subject their hands to such analysis.  So you should include a representative sample of all hands, not just your own.

With so many players playing, some people are going to have really bad luck, and those are going to go and post about it, while those with slightly bad to good luck won't.  It may be very hard to win the lottery, but someone always does eventually.  Similarly, it may be very unlikely to lose to a whole bunch of longshot draws, but it's going to happen to someone, due to the sheer number of hands played.

That's why you can't go by anecdotal evidence and opinions.  You're always going to hear from the players who have experienced the worst luck.
legendary
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You too lost some bitcoins while having fun playing I guess ... ;-)  Tongue

No. This is the conclusion I've arrived at after all the research I've done, considering various opinions, and my own careful monitoring of the many thousands of hands I've played during the past year on sealswithclubs. They most definitely are NOT running a legit poker site, in my opinion. Too bad there's nothing that can stop them from stealing as many bitcoins as they can suck out of people. Check out what somebody else said on Sealswithclubs' subReddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/SealsWithClubs/comments/1am4t2/i_dont_really_trust_the_swc_software_anymore/

I 100% agree with this. I can't tell you how many times I've got beat by pocket AA's or KK's when I have on K or A and one comes on the flop and all the other cards are lowers. What pisses me off is the river cards when the "opponent" is calling 10-50 chips on a "draw" from the flop and ends up getting the card on the river. It happens way to often and along with other small things I've noticed from playing multiple tables at once, I can say with confidence that sealswithclubs isn't regular poker odds like in a true Casino.
legendary
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Tis poker my friend.

Indeed...  and in most cases, it's really really bad poker.

I had a session in 20/40 one night where one opponent derided me all night on my "bad play".  I pretty much had him pegged and figured the best way to beat him was to play hands that would give me the best chance of taking his stack when they hit.  As such, every time I beat him, it was with "terrible" starting hands.  To him, it seemed that every time he got his money in, I hit with terrible hands.  That's pretty much right.  I folded hands that didn't give me enough value before they had a chance to hit.

At the end of the session I had won 4btc from him and he left bitching about how the site must be rigged.  The reality is that he was partially outplayed with the remainder being unlucky enough not to hold against my 13-19 outer draws.


Losing players often complain about sites being rigged Wink

Haha, I'm thinking it's a sign of growth that we have some more complainer lately, Smiley
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Tis poker my friend.

Indeed...  and in most cases, it's really really bad poker.

I had a session in 20/40 one night where one opponent derided me all night on my "bad play".  I pretty much had him pegged and figured the best way to beat him was to play hands that would give me the best chance of taking his stack when they hit.  As such, every time I beat him, it was with "terrible" starting hands.  To him, it seemed that every time he got his money in, I hit with terrible hands.  That's pretty much right.  I folded hands that didn't give me enough value before they had a chance to hit.

At the end of the session I had won 4btc from him and he left bitching about how the site must be rigged.  The reality is that he was partially outplayed with the remainder being unlucky enough not to hold against my 13-19 outer draws.


Losing players often complain about sites being rigged Wink
full member
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Tis poker my friend.

Indeed...  and in most cases, it's really really bad poker.

I had a session in 20/40 one night where one opponent derided me all night on my "bad play".  I pretty much had him pegged and figured the best way to beat him was to play hands that would give me the best chance of taking his stack when they hit.  As such, every time I beat him, it was with "terrible" starting hands.  To him, it seemed that every time he got his money in, I hit with terrible hands.  That's pretty much right.  I folded hands that didn't give me enough value before they had a chance to hit.

At the end of the session I had won 4btc from him and he left bitching about how the site must be rigged.  The reality is that he was partially outplayed with the remainder being unlucky enough not to hold against my 13-19 outer draws.

full member
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Actually they are running a legit site.
They did not create the software.
Poker can be a bitch.
Additionally, you know they arent playing as "the house" right?
You do understand what poker is right?
You understand we play eachother and they just take a rake regardless of who wins or loses... right?
If I were you Id bitch about a slot machine website.
legendary
Activity: 2114
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You too lost some bitcoins while having fun playing I guess ... ;-)  Tongue

No. This is the conclusion I've arrived at after all the research I've done, considering various opinions, and my own careful monitoring of the many thousands of hands I've played during the past year on sealswithclubs. They most definitely are NOT running a legit poker site, in my opinion. Too bad there's nothing that can stop them from stealing as many bitcoins as they can suck out of people. Check out what somebody else said on Sealswithclubs' subReddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/SealsWithClubs/comments/1am4t2/i_dont_really_trust_the_swc_software_anymore/

Tis poker my friend.
member
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I'm nobody.
You too lost some bitcoins while having fun playing I guess ... ;-)  Tongue

No. This is the conclusion I've arrived at after all the research I've done, considering various opinions, and my own careful monitoring of the many thousands of hands I've played during the past year on sealswithclubs. They most definitely are NOT running a legit poker site, in my opinion. Too bad there's nothing that can stop them from stealing as many bitcoins as they can suck out of people. Check out what somebody else said on Sealswithclubs' subReddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/SealsWithClubs/comments/1am4t2/i_dont_really_trust_the_swc_software_anymore/
newbie
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You too lost some bitcoins while having fun playing I guess ... ;-)  Tongue
member
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I'm nobody.
Don't deposit to this website, it's rigged and the owner is a worthless snob who will get what's coming to him.

 Huh what do you mean? I just sent a small amount of BTC to SWC so I can play another buy-in. You mean this doesn't work? Or, are you just trollin'?

no, I mean the software is designed to benefit the owner of the website. it's RIGGED, please look up the word if you don't know what it means.
newbie
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Don't deposit to this website, it's rigged and the owner is a worthless snob who will get what's coming to him.

 Huh what do you mean? I just sent a small amount of BTC to SWC so I can play another buy-in. You mean this doesn't work? Or, are you just trollin'?
member
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I'm nobody.
Don't deposit to this website, it's rigged and the owner is a worthless snob who will get what's coming to him.
legendary
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760930
Edit: I confirm the issue with lifeguard's balance has been resolved.
 
Thanks for the quick and helpful response!
legendary
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Strength in numbers
We have full records of the ring game chips that were not returned and they will all be refunded in the next hour or so, sorry for the trouble.
newbie
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My buddy (lifeguard) says his balance has been majorly messed up since the crash. He was sitting with a big stack at a 25-50 9max table when it happened. Please could you check?

same thing happened to me. balance is gone wtf?
legendary
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FPV Drone Pilot
My buddy (lifeguard) says his balance has been majorly messed up since the crash. He was sitting with a big stack at a 25-50 9max table when it happened. Please could you check?

all issues with anything game-related please email:  [email protected]

we here at SealsWithClubs always make it right 100% of the time when we have technical issues.   

We do this quickly and fairly each time, as this thread is a record of such.

While there will inevitably be bumps in the road, we will always handle them as open and honestly as we can.

ST6 works extremely hard to offer world-wide bitcoin poker with as much uptime as possible. 

Thanks to all our loyal players.  Anyone can reach me at any time for any reason [email protected]
legendary
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760930
My buddy (lifeguard) says his balance has been majorly messed up since the crash. He was sitting with a big stack at a 25-50 9max table when it happened. Please could you check?
newbie
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Yup works fine now.
Thx for the lightning freeroll  Smiley
sr. member
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Back up on my end

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