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legendary
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I think they mentioned that while originally it was Poker Mavens, their code is very different now. Or completely different. Or rewritten from scratch. I don't really know, only the devs can answer that for sure.

Well AFAIK Poker Mavens is not built on HTML 5 framework instead of flash.  So what seals uses is sort of different.  Built from the old flash client I suppose.
legendary
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I think they mentioned that while originally it was Poker Mavens, their code is very different now. Or completely different. Or rewritten from scratch. I don't really know, only the devs can answer that for sure.
legendary
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Legendary is a brand new title, I guess there were too many heroes.  The following was written by theymos.   

To make things more fun, the Legendary membergroup has no universal activity requirement. You are guaranteed to become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity, but the exact point in this range at which you become Legendary is random per user.
legendary
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Uh oh, I see Micon has been updated to Legendary. $10 says there is a new category on Seals in a few weeks.......Legendary haha

ha never seen that before did they just make that?

Someone *may* have seen me rock the mic to "Bitcoin Baron" with YTCracker on stage at Defcon this year...

I can't think of anything else I have done recently that would have impressed a mod here Smiley

thanks to whoever gave it, I'll fly the flag with pride.
legendary
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Seals has to make cuts because the site is not growing. And to be honest, its not going to grow. Why? The software. The software they are using is for PLAY money. It was not meant to be used for REAL money and or Bitcoin. I mean the software cost what, $600? You don't get much for $600 and it shows. The RNG is a total joke. What are the odds of seeing constant quads, straights, flush and trips? Well on Seals its every game. On multiple occasions I have see quads 3-4 times at a table within minutes. Random? I think not. Now if they would ditch this software for better software they would have a better site and bring in more traffic I think.

A bad RNG does not produce more big hands.  A bad RNG is a security risk and is vulnerable to exploit.  Here are some articles describing how Planet Poker's RNG was exploited in 1999:

http://pokersafety.blogspot.com/2005/10/online-poker-room-cracked-not-hoax.html
http://pokersafety.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-poker-site-shuffles-are-different.html
http://www.developer.com/tech/article.php/616221/How-We-Learned-to-Cheat-at-Online-Poker-A-Study-in-Software-Security.htm

It is not "expensive" to program a correct shuffle algorithm.  It only requires a little research.  Clearly the Poker Maven's authors have done this.  Here is an explanation of their shuffle algorithm:

http://www.briggsoft.com/docs/pmavens/Utilities.htm#shuffle


I appreciate your input, and frankly it represents my feelings, but you do realize that you are essentially arguing with rigtards.
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Seals has to make cuts because the site is not growing. And to be honest, its not going to grow. Why? The software. The software they are using is for PLAY money. It was not meant to be used for REAL money and or Bitcoin. I mean the software cost what, $600? You don't get much for $600 and it shows. The RNG is a total joke. What are the odds of seeing constant quads, straights, flush and trips? Well on Seals its every game. On multiple occasions I have see quads 3-4 times at a table within minutes. Random? I think not. Now if they would ditch this software for better software they would have a better site and bring in more traffic I think.

A bad RNG does not produce more big hands.  A bad RNG is a security risk and is vulnerable to exploit.  Here are some articles describing how Planet Poker's RNG was exploited in 1999:

http://pokersafety.blogspot.com/2005/10/online-poker-room-cracked-not-hoax.html
http://pokersafety.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-poker-site-shuffles-are-different.html
http://www.developer.com/tech/article.php/616221/How-We-Learned-to-Cheat-at-Online-Poker-A-Study-in-Software-Security.htm

It is not "expensive" to program a correct shuffle algorithm.  It only requires a little research.  Clearly the Poker Maven's authors have done this.  Here is an explanation of their shuffle algorithm:

http://www.briggsoft.com/docs/pmavens/Utilities.htm#shuffle
legendary
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Uh oh, I see Micon has been updated to Legendary. $10 says there is a new category on Seals in a few weeks.......Legendary haha

ha never seen that before did they just make that?
hero member
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Uh oh, I see Micon has been updated to Legendary. $10 says there is a new category on Seals in a few weeks.......Legendary haha
legendary
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Just made an account on this forum, hoping to give just some small feedback Smiley. First of all I'd like to mention that I've been a reg on Seals for quite some time, and so far I love playing on Seals. There was just one small recomendation I had which was to reduce the SealsDeals Bounty from a 30 chip buyin to something more reasonable, such as 15 chips (Maybe 10+4+1). I think a lot more players would play, and that spot would be filled up in the schedule.

Also, Micon, I'm not sure if you saw the video I posted in chat, but theres a video of you on youtube @ 5/10. I'm guesing the person who recoreded the video had no idea who you were as they called you a "hippie" in the description.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ycbCeC27M

1)  tyvm for the feedback.  "Glitch" is the SwC assistant tournament director, and he regularly monitors this thread and others, then we meet once a week to discuss MTT schedule changes.  The process has given players like yourself proper input - while that doesn't mean I'll always agree with you, it does mean I hear you.

2) lol @ that video, i have no clue why there is 10k+ views on it, and I do remember who was in that seat during that night.  It was Aria, maybe ~3 or 4 yrs ago, for a period of 2 weeks I went there every night because there was these totally insane No Limit games built around this crazy Asian chick and this multi millionaire wire-$500k-to-the-cage type of guy that was up or down $50k or $100k in every 1 hour session of blackjack he put in, then came to poker for 3 hours to drink and cool off while blowing like $10k at 5-10.  One night he won ~$300k in the pits and dumped prolly ~$130k of it back to the poker players at 5-10, then no limit triple draw, it got out of control.  I remember winning about ~$8k total over the period of time, I played pretty tight and flopped middle set and bet all the chips in that video-hand.  Wish I still had my "hippy" hat - and totally fine with being referred to as "younger hippy guy" in my mid-30's Smiley
newbie
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Just made an account on this forum, hoping to give just some small feedback Smiley. First of all I'd like to mention that I've been a reg on Seals for quite some time, and so far I love playing on Seals. There was just one small recomendation I had which was to reduce the SealsDeals Bounty from a 30 chip buyin to something more reasonable, such as 15 chips (Maybe 10+4+1). I think a lot more players would play, and that spot would be filled up in the schedule.

Also, Micon, I'm not sure if you saw the video I posted in chat, but theres a video of you on youtube @ 5/10. I'm guesing the person who recoreded the video had no idea who you were as they called you a "hippie" in the description.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ycbCeC27M
legendary
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Well, SwC has been around for a long time. Even if I don't play here often, that's a good indication of it's stability. Sure, you can't invest in it like some other dice sites, but they have a good reputation for not disappearing with your BTC and fixing issues.

Couldn't agree more with this.  So many bitcoin sites are fly-by-night hype that disappear in the morning sun.  Seals has actually been around for a long time and no-hacks and no security incidents.  Even the biggest bitcoin exchange has come and gone while Seals still stands.


yeah, thats a matter of fact that can't be denied by anyone.

In add to this, for what I read in chat some time ago, measures have been taken against colluders.

What still has to be taken care of is that uncontrolled account selling going on ( a bit less to be honest recently) because of which is now hard to know who is who.
legendary
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withdraws take awhile and people team up at the same table but its expected. good site will play again here

Long threads are terrible for actually getting information that's already discussed but the long withdraw time is correlated with the security of the site.  they have a person manually approve the withdraw so there's no hack danger of having the site's accounts drained by an exploit.
newbie
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withdraws take awhile and people team up at the same table but its expected. good site will play again here
legendary
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Well, SwC has been around for a long time. Even if I don't play here often, that's a good indication of it's stability. Sure, you can't invest in it like some other dice sites, but they have a good reputation for not disappearing with your BTC and fixing issues.

Couldn't agree more with this.  So many bitcoin sites are fly-by-night hype that disappear in the morning sun.  Seals has actually been around for a long time and no-hacks and no security incidents.  Even the biggest bitcoin exchange has come and gone while Seals still stands.

Thanks very much for the old-school support!

No problem, just remember to bribe me again later. Smiley
legendary
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Well, SwC has been around for a long time. Even if I don't play here often, that's a good indication of it's stability. Sure, you can't invest in it like some other dice sites, but they have a good reputation for not disappearing with your BTC and fixing issues.

Couldn't agree more with this.  So many bitcoin sites are fly-by-night hype that disappear in the morning sun.  Seals has actually been around for a long time and no-hacks and no security incidents.  Even the biggest bitcoin exchange has come and gone while Seals still stands.

Thanks very much for the old-school support!
legendary
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Well, SwC has been around for a long time. Even if I don't play here often, that's a good indication of it's stability. Sure, you can't invest in it like some other dice sites, but they have a good reputation for not disappearing with your BTC and fixing issues.

Couldn't agree more with this.  So many bitcoin sites are fly-by-night hype that disappear in the morning sun.  Seals has actually been around for a long time and no-hacks and no security incidents.  Even the biggest bitcoin exchange has come and gone while Seals still stands.
legendary
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How much does mavens cost not counting the time seals techs  put into it? Its still mavens isn't it the rng I mean? I could have sworn that new software was coming I didn't realize that meant upgraded mavens software though.  I guess discourse isn't allowed if it is negative? This is my last post in this thread I hope you aren't looking to boot me off the site based on your last statement. Pretty ironic considering you were thanking me for playing on the site as of a month ago during a game. Kind of saddening really.
legendary
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Actually mavens software costs 300 usd

So you think SwC spent $300 and everything just magically runs?  Is that really what you think donk4u? 

I will state this for hard evidence you can link to later:

SwC, while originally based on Mavens, has evolved considerably since 2011.  It is a complex software project actively managed by ST6.  It is under constant flux, constant scrutiny, and is extremely complicated to manage.  To trivialize the constant coding effort, to minimize the time and resources spent on the project is not only hurtful but a gross mischaracterization of the reality. 


donk4u, please stop spreading misinformation, it makes my life harder and I cannot allow you to damage the brand with nonsense.  Too many good men work way too hard on this...

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legendary
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Redcution in the rakeback really wouldn't be felt as heavily as the krillrolls being reduced and frequency of them running being reduced,  as players get almost nothing to 10k krill in rakeback  and 10 percent rakeback from 10k krill to 50k krill.  People at 100k krill would feel reductions perhaps.  Live and learn though is the lesson I am taking away here. I have been on the site for one and a half years pretty sure I know how the site works.  The krillroll business  is really a punch in the gut no matter how long the pissing contest will be or how much  sugar coating  ensues . I think if you wanted to you would see how the players feel they are getting screwed as I have explained it previously,  but the blinders aren't permitting you. I am not looking at things in the right perspective is the answer I have received maybe its time to up the dosage in the koolaid.

Seals has to make cuts because the site is not growing. And to be honest, its not going to grow. Why? The software. The software they are using is for PLAY money. It was not meant to be used for REAL money and or Bitcoin. I mean the software cost what, $600? You don't get much for $600 and it shows. The RNG is a total joke. What are the odds of seeing constant quads, straights, flush and trips? Well on Seals its every game. On multiple occasions I have see quads 3-4 times at a table within minutes. Random? I think not. Now if they would ditch this software for better software they would have a better site and bring in more traffic I think.

Actually mavens software costs 300 usd and I have been saying this for a while not sure if you are trolling me as you said what I did word for word lolz. The site is not growing because the player pool has been the same for the past year unless you count people changing their names on a daily basis which I am not. The majority of the people that will krill to 50k have gotten there so in that sense seals needs  to abolish current krillrolls and its time to put up another carrot that fools will chase like greyhounds since there is no new blood coming in. For reasons I have stated its going to be an epic fail. I love how when I was beating the drum for seals I was appreciated but when I disagree I am spreading misinformation and riling up the lobby which is hardly case. People who have krilled are going to be upset their hard work to krill up to  nosebleed krill levels was for naught.  mgmt. just refuses to acknowledge this.
legendary
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The RNG is a total joke. What are the odds of seeing constant quads, straights, flush and trips?

Ooh Ooh!  I know this one.  It's 1:1.
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