Sex behind bars. Conjugal Visits. Good or Bad?

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Quote from: shogdite on June 16, 2015, 06:32:08 PM

Quote from: Sourgummies on June 16, 2015, 06:22:17 PM

Depends on their crime in my opinion. If they are in jail for battery,domestic,diddling or anything against kids the answer should be "No"!

What if they are a drug dealer? Where does the line get drawn?

If its Ross Ulbrict getting laid behind bars since he has life in prison that is fine with me.
The question is to let the privileges fit the crime and then treat them case by case.
That said I also read about the facebook of prison mates seeking a relationship and that did creep me out a bit but if someone went through the process of getting vetted to choose a person in prison to date well its their absurd choice much as I'll dismay at it.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/luka-magnotta-joins-dating-site-for-prisoners-1.3132104

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i believe these visits should be available only to those men who are in a stable relationship
makes the time easier for both parties.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 08, 2015, 06:21:30 AM

In my country, I have seen countless examples of gold diggers winning custody of the children and then using their rights to prevent the fathers from even communicating with their children. And they don't work, as the alimony and child support payment is enough to sponsor their luxurious lifestyle.

What country is that? Most Mothers cannot prevent fathers seeing their children without good reason and I think if people were worried about gold diggers they should get a pre-nup and then problem solved. If women had the intention of trying to rob you of money then they wouldn't agree to a pre-nup and you would then know not to marry them. Also though, if your wife had more money than you you would also be entitled to half of her money but its usually the men that earn or have more.

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Quote from: pureelite on July 08, 2015, 10:35:59 AM

Quote from: shogdite on June 16, 2015, 06:04:52 PM

Wondering what the general consensus is regarding conjugal visits in prison. The way I see it, these criminals broke the law and it's been determined by a judge or jury that their freedom is to be taken away.

So why let criminals have sex in prison?

Do they let inmates on death row have them? If not. Why not?

What do you guys think?

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I think sex behind bars is not bad, inmates who were sentenced to several years in prison, that's probably because they enjoy an opportunity to have sex only a few times, it is only when their wife or girlfriend came to visit.

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Quote from: shogdite on June 16, 2015, 06:04:52 PM

Wondering what the general consensus is regarding conjugal visits in prison. The way I see it, these criminals broke the law and it's been determined by a judge or jury that their freedom is to be taken away.

So why let criminals have sex in prison?

Do they let inmates on death row have them? If not. Why not?

What do you guys think?

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I think ses behind bars is not bad, inmates who were sentenced to several years in prison, that's probably because they enjoy an opportunity to have sex only a few times, it is only when their wife or girlfriend came to visit.

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It's better to let them fuck than they fuck each other in prison. Just think about it if you are in prison, too.

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Quote from: shogdite on June 16, 2015, 06:04:52 PM

Wondering what the general consensus is regarding conjugal visits in prison. The way I see it, these criminals broke the law and it's been determined by a judge or jury that their freedom is to be taken away. So why let criminals have sex in prison? Do they let inmates on death row have them? If not. Why not? What do you guys think?

Prison is for punishment. Sex is an Enjoyment and Relax. How come when the person got imprisonment as a punishment, and he has been allowed to have sex enjoyment. The reason he has been sent to Prison to make sure the value of Enjoyment and Relax at his home life which he did not think as a gift and never been thankful for it.

If you have ever read a book about psychology, it expresses about the need hierarchy. The basic needs of a human are food, air and sleep. Then there are secondary needs which a human needs such as clothing, place to live, relationships with other humans. It is a basic human need. In the same way, sex is also a secondary basic human need. They can live without it, but having sex is human for them and not just enjoyment but a way to have peace of mind, which every human deserves.

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Prison is HELL.
There should be no sex in that place.
Because if they do,
they will taste heaven.

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Quote from: shogdite on July 08, 2015, 04:09:40 AM

I do hail from a broken family as you put it and I'm darn proud of my past.

You were brought up by your mother, and I can sense a strong bias in favor of the females as a result of that.

Quote from: shogdite on July 08, 2015, 04:09:40 AM

I think most women get the custody because in most cases the father is the major bread earner and he need to keep his job and focus on that so he can continue to pay for his kids.

Do you think that the males are some sort of machines without any emotion, who should work till they die to feed gold-diggers? Also, in your country what is the work participation rate of the females?

In my country, I have seen countless examples of gold diggers winning custody of the children and then using their rights to prevent the fathers from even communicating with their children. And they don't work, as the alimony and child support payment is enough to sponsor their luxurious lifestyle.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 08, 2015, 12:53:59 AM

Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 06:02:52 PM

Have you been through a divorce because you come off a bit sour here.

Nope. I have been married for more than 5 years now, and so far there have been no major issues.

Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 06:02:52 PM

You're right that in most cases the mother is given the custody

Here is the problem. Why the custody of the kid is always given to the mother? The father should also have the same rights as the mother.

Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 06:02:52 PM

All Im saying is that you seem bitter, maybe because your parents also got divorced and your mom pocketed all the money or maybe you went through a divorce and now your ex wife is pocketing all the money.

My parents have been happily married for more than 40 years now. On the other hand, by your own admission, you seem to be the one who hails from a broken family.

I do hail from a broken family as you put it and I'm darn proud of my past. I think most women get the custody because in most cases the father is the major bread earner and he need to keep his job and focus on that so he can continue to pay for his kids.
Its just easier in most cases for the mother to take the kids especially if she was already a stay at home mom.

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Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 06:02:52 PM

Have you been through a divorce because you come off a bit sour here.

Nope. I have been married for more than 5 years now, and so far there have been no major issues.

Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 06:02:52 PM

You're right that in most cases the mother is given the custody

Here is the problem. Why the custody of the kid is always given to the mother? The father should also have the same rights as the mother.

Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 06:02:52 PM

All Im saying is that you seem bitter, maybe because your parents also got divorced and your mom pocketed all the money or maybe you went through a divorce and now your ex wife is pocketing all the money.

My parents have been happily married for more than 40 years now. On the other hand, by your own admission, you seem to be the one who hails from a broken family.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 07, 2015, 02:41:31 AM

Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 01:37:59 AM

Paying child support is not a choice. You have a kid take care of it and if you fail to do so then you should be locked up.

In 99% of the cases, the custody of the kids will be given to the female spouse, while the men have to fight hard even for the visitation rights. Even if the kid wants to live with the father, he is not allowed to do so by the court. And the child support payment is not going towards the kid. It is going straight to the pocket of the (ex) wife, who will spend it the way she want.

Have you been through a divorce because you come off a bit sour here. You're right that in most cases the mother is given the custody but that doesn't mean that the father does not have visitation rights and tbh the fathers who get locked up for failure to pay are normally the fathers who have no interest in spending the weekends with their kids. I dont think that all mothers out there pocket their child support either. I grew up in a house with divorced parents and my father did pay child support and almost every penny of it went to me and my sisters. My mom worked 9 hour days to be able to keep all the bills up to date and everything but neither of my parents were in great financial spots when the divorce happened.
All Im saying is that you seem bitter, maybe because your parents also got divorced and your mom pocketed all the money or maybe you went through a divorce and now your ex wife is pocketing all the money.

Either way your blanket statements are inaccurate and you should reconsider your position in this discussion because a large portion of divorces which include child support are executed flawlessly and never even see a judge.

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Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 01:37:59 AM

Paying child support is not a choice. You have a kid take care of it and if you fail to do so then you should be locked up.

In 99% of the cases, the custody of the kids will be given to the female spouse, while the men have to fight hard even for the visitation rights. Even if the kid wants to live with the father, he is not allowed to do so by the court. And the child support payment is not going towards the kid. It is going straight to the pocket of the (ex) wife, who will spend it the way she want.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 07, 2015, 01:32:22 AM

Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 01:17:53 AM

How can you allow someone who is in jail for not doing his fatherly duties to have sex and maybe procreate again.
He already failed at one kid maybe more, that is why he is in prison but we should let him have more sex and make more babies?
I don't think so tim.

He should not be in the jail on the first place. I don't think that non-payment of child support is an offence which requires imprisonment. Todays laws and regulations are extremely biased against the males, and I won't blame someone if he refuses to pay alimony or child support to his (ex) gold digger wife.

Sounds to me like you have some issues. Paying child support is not a choice. You have a kid take care of it and if you fail to do so then you should be locked up.

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Quote from: shogdite on July 07, 2015, 01:17:53 AM

How can you allow someone who is in jail for not doing his fatherly duties to have sex and maybe procreate again.
He already failed at one kid maybe more, that is why he is in prison but we should let him have more sex and make more babies?
I don't think so tim.

He should not be in the jail on the first place. I don't think that non-payment of child support is an offence which requires imprisonment. Todays laws and regulations are extremely biased against the males, and I won't blame someone if he refuses to pay alimony or child support to his (ex) gold digger wife.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 29, 2015, 04:45:48 AM

Quote from: Beliathon on June 27, 2015, 01:23:00 PM

Yeah, can't have them pot smokers out there mingling with the rest of society.

There is a very simple solution to this. Set up separate prison facilities for the violent and non-violent prisoners. BTW... I don't think that smoking weed should be a punishable offense. But still, if some individual is sent to jail for non-violent offenses, such as tax evasion or non-payment of child support, then he should not be housed with the rapists and murderers. This will help to reduce the prison violence as well.

How can you allow someone who is in jail for not doing his fatherly duties to have sex and maybe procreate again.
He already failed at one kid maybe more, that is why he is in prison but we should let him have more sex and make more babies?
I don't think so tim.

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Quote from: shogdite on June 16, 2015, 06:04:52 PM

Wondering what the general consensus is regarding conjugal visits in prison. The way I see it, these criminals broke the law and it's been determined by a judge or jury that their freedom is to be taken away.

So why let criminals have sex in prison?

Do they let inmates on death row have them? If not. Why not?

What do you guys think?

I think that the prisoner should be allowed to have sex behind bars , because he is punished . And therefore it is all the rights of a normal life. About sex with his wife was supposed to think before he commits it .

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Quote from: Xialla on June 29, 2015, 05:16:51 AM

uhh, dunno where are you from, but in my country, it is working exactly like this and prisoners are simply separated based what they did..

May be you are living in some European Union nation, such as Norway or Germany. In my country there is no such system, although the people have been demanding it for quite some time now. And I don't think that such a system exists in the United States, the country which is having the largest incarcerated population in the world.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 29, 2015, 04:45:48 AM

But still, if some individual is sent to jail for non-violent offenses

If anyone should be going to jail for non-violent offenses, it's corrupt politicians, corrupt judges, corrupt lawyers, and corrupt cops. Once all those fuckers are behind bars we can talk about other non-violent offenses.

Until that time, any officer using physical force to kidnap a non-violent criminal should themselves be kidnapped, brought to a dungeon, and forced to learn ethics 101 and the non-aggression principle. Not released from captivity until they get score a 100 on a written test.

Just wait until we get our Revolutionary People's Police Force to counter the Status-Quo Billionaire's Agenda police force we have now. Fun times ahead.

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Quote from: shogdite on June 18, 2015, 12:53:15 PM

I don't think they can stop you for jerking the jimmy though. How would they enforce such a rule?

They could make em wear boxing gloves.

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