Topic: Sheriff's investigators release initial findings on Obama eligibility (Read 9234 times)

The problem with 'birthers' is they constantly ignore facts and come up with little snippets of things that are NOT FACTS and call them facts.  As they say, you are entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts. 

In the above links, hearsay is presented as fact. 

Besides the REAL birth cert, the living witneses, there were printed birth announcements in TWO local papers.  From wiki:

"In 1961, birth notices for Barack Obama were published in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin on August 13 and August 14, 1961, respectively, listing the home address of Obama's parents as 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu.[7][13] On November 9, 2008, in response to the persistent rumors, the Advertiser posted on its web site a screenshot of the announcement taken from its microfilmed archives. Such notices were sent to newspapers routinely by the Hawaii Department of Health.[13]

In an editorial published on July 29, 2009, the Star-Bulletin pointed out that both newspapers' vital-statistics columns are available on microfilm in the main state library. "Were the state Department of Health and Obama's parents really in cahoots to give false information to the newspapers, perhaps intending to clear the way for the baby to someday be elected president of the United States?" the newspaper asked.[78]"

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NY times from 1990: http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html

From the last 2 days news:

Born in Kenya’: Obama’s Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 (ABC News)
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Intelwar/~3/vnNoq2C3AlY/

Michelle Obama On Record: Barack Obama’s Home Country Is KENYA!!! (Video)
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Intelwar/~3/oaj0Fak-TyA/

New Report Of Obama’s Birth In Kenya (The Hill)
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Intelwar/~3/tO7fW7_tnw0/

The Vetting – Exclusive – Obama’s Literary Agent In 1991 Booklet: ‘Born In Kenya And Raised In Indonesia And Hawaii’ (Breitbart)
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Intelwar/~3/_fhpMxOqufQ/

Obama Born in Kenya -in 1991 we got it wrong - OOPS we got it wrong in 2003 - OOPS we got it wrong again in 2007
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/05/obama-born-in-kenya-in-1991-we-got-it.html

It's Time For Obots To Evolve And Admit That Obama Was Born In Kenya
http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com/2012/05/its-time-for-obamabots-to-evolve-and.html

Oops! Text Editor Rushes Out Apology for Kenya ‘Mistake’ in Obama’s Bio
http://www.infowars.com/breaking-obamas-pr-team-rushes-out-publicists-apology-for-mistake-in-bio/

Official Bio Said Obama Kenyan Born UP UNTIL April 2007 When Campaign Began
http://www.infowars.com/official-bio-said-obama-kenyan-born-up-until-april-2007-when-campaign-began/

The entire US government says the birther thing and the truther thing are both nonsense.  For whatever reason, birthers and truthers can't change their minds but its very good for them to be reminded that the rest of the world regards them as misguided and confused.

Yes, the entire US government is silly.  That's why we're discussing it.

Pointing out that something is silly is not trolling.  And be honest, the whole birther thing is silly.

Hawker, you've added nothing to this thread but troll posts.

You "snipped" out the published evidence of the man himself claiming to have been born in Kenya.

You're not even an American.  What makes you think we care about your opinion?

Do remember that the conspiracy was hatched back in 1960.  Surely killing whoever wrote that article would have been the essential first step?

So rather than replace all of our flags, we will have to replace all of our flag poles?  That looks cool as a pin, but I don't see how it would work well on a real flag pole.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii

http://www.infowars.com/andrew-breitbart-dead-at-43-was-to-release-explosive-tapes-featuring-obama/

Andrew Breitbart dies on the first day the NDAA's citizen murder provisions take effect.

http://www.crimefilenews.com/2012/03/eyewitness-speaks-out-about-andrew.html

Witness to Breitbart death describes his skin as "bright red."

http://rt.com/usa/news/coroner-arsenic-death-breitbart-456/

LA County coroner dies of apparent arsenic poisoning the day Breitbart's toxicology results are announced.

bump 

I was in DC recently looking at the flag flying over the capitol building, thinking that the only 51st state would be the moon or a space station. There is no way at this point  congress is going to make everyone redo their flags for puerto rico or the dominican republic or some occupied middle east country. After seeing that flag, I see a way.

good question! make a poll 

He also failed to remember how many states there are which proves the USA doesn't exist as well. 

/sarcasm

If this is Obama's real birth certificate then Obama should have no difficulty stating when his birthday is. Unfortunately, Obama doesn't seem to know himself when his birthday is. Is Obama 48, 50, or 52 years old? Don't ask Obama because he already publicly gave three different ages. The truth is easy to remember, lies are not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wF_n-gn-Yo

If Obama is removed for ineligibility, any laws he signed are null and void. If he is impeached for illegal actions, like declaring war without asking congress for permission, then the laws he signed remain. Of the two methods of getting rid of Obama, I prefer the former, giving us an opportunity to undo any damage created by laws he signed.

So I actually watched the videos on Snope. He goes through almost all of the layers in Illustrator and actually explains what people mean by optimization.

The only thing he didn't show was the stamp layer being the entire stamp and easy to drag around.

Adam and James have something to input here:

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-square-wheels-angle-2.html

Agreed.  Its best find something else to criticise Obama for.  One could look at his kowtowing to Wall Street or is that just too boring?

The Obama lawyer didn't provide any evidence. It was irrelevant.

Birther bites the dust, yay.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/04/birther-bites-dust/

The decision of the court, that was reaffirmed in the doc that you quoted: http://www.scribd.com/puzo1/d/88910250-Purpura-Moran-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin


Here is what the judge said:

It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here; the subject has been thoroughly reviewed and no new legal argument on this issue has been offered here.

What I'm referring to is that part that the respondents evidence, including the longform birth certificate, were deemed not authentic.

Again, this won't matter in the long run. But anyone who is refusing to look at that fraudulent garbage they posted on the whitehouse website once it's been pointed out that it's fake is just being silly. If you don't care about the argument then don't comment on it.