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Quote from: whizter on May 01, 2017, 06:38:37 PM

Quote from: SmokerFace on May 01, 2017, 05:36:55 PM

For me, Try the same method if you know the coin has a potential to get high value on long term try to hold it and bring extra capital for the short term method or Day trading.
Example you have 1Btc in tour wallet.
use 0.5btc for long term method and use 0.5btc for Day trading method it gives you a huge profit or Sell the coins you holding if you know that theres a retracement or a rebuy and buy it again when the prive has decreased.

to me everyone have their own choice but to me i think long term investment has more advantages as compare to short term investment. in short term investment there is always risk of losing money, but in long term investment there are more chances to make money instead of losing your own money.

I agree with you. It's better to have a long term investment that short term investment. Long term investment comes with more benefits for you and you'll be sure enought that in the future you'll be secure than short term invesment that yes can give you earning but you don't know anytime you'll lose it.

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Quote from: Sled on May 03, 2017, 11:48:22 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on May 03, 2017, 11:28:52 PM

Quote from: shield132 on May 03, 2017, 12:08:42 PM

That "Long Term" investment in bitcoins isn't guaranteed because as there are chanses of price rising, as are chanses of price fall. So to my mind short term investment like trading daily is better than putting money and waiting years because if your trading is successful, than for example if you get daily 0.8% daily profit which is very possible from bitcoin, than in 10 day you will achieve 8% and if you decide long term, than simply keep bitcoins safe.

Tell me. How much would you have made if you bought and held Bitcoin starting on the year 2012 and compare it if you did short term trading beginning at the same time. I believe long term investing would make much more.

Of course long term investment is the best because bitcoin is keep rising in the few years past and it seems that it will repeat the scenario and bitcoin can reach up to $10,000 price each bitcoin and that is very high price and if we just believe in that and continue to collect bitcoin and keep it for long term then we could possibly earn that high amount.

To reach $10k how many years we have to wait, is this possible in 4 or 5 years. Becasue for me, 10 years waiting is not worth. I don't have extra money to invest in BTC. I want short term profit. Means I will wait for months but not for years. Now it is a good time for investment price is increasing too fast I think it may cross 1600 this weekend it is a nice profit for short time investors.

Then you miss the whole point of investing and what you are doing is really gambling. How much Bitcoin are you effectively trading right now, if you are saying that "you do not have enough extra money to invest"? Maybe what you should be doing is to stop gambling your money in the exchanges and try to find a real job.

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Quote from: bitcoindusts on May 04, 2017, 09:03:43 AM

Short term if managed correctly can out profit the long term. If the one doing short term keeps on taking advantage of fluctuation and is very successful with it, then he can multiply his holding, and will definitely beat the one who is holding his coin in long term.

If I purely look at my year results thus far, then trading the volatility has generated me higher profits than simply holding. But the main thing is that you should do both at the same time. Holding doesn't require any attention when your coins sit safely in offline storage. From there you can focus purely on short term trading to benefit from every possible price swing. No point into choosing one of the two when you can do both at the same time. Wink

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on May 01, 2017, 08:12:57 AM

Both type of trading have their perks, with long term you may end up with bigger margin of profit, but you have to be very patient for that, and in short term, you see growing your investment every day even though by a small amount.
But how do you prefer to trade? Especially when trading alts. Do you go with good potential coins and long term investment so you can only cash in when you get to a desired level of profit?
Or do you prefer day trading and go with whichever coin suits on the day.
And what is according to you best practice?

Short term if managed correctly can out profit the long term. If the one doing short term keeps on taking advantage of fluctuation and is very successful with it, then he can multiply his holding, and will definitely beat the one who is holding his coin in long term.

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Quote from: lienfaye on May 02, 2017, 11:47:46 PM

For bitcoin i take it for long term because it has potential and few years has been passed but its still going stronger and like a digital gold. for altcoins i go for short term and i have to monitor it daily for changes of value, the income is not big but good enough.

I guess this is the common practice of almost all the crypto users. Interestingly in recent times the altcoins also is proving the benefits of its long term holding. I guess in the history of altcoins, only in recent times altcoins finding big surge only in recent times. For example, litecoins were finding only downfall even its halving it just got doubled but after some time again prices found downfall.

But now a days even altcoins are getting us significant profits in long term perspective, I guess it would be a new trend and I am not sure how many traders will change their trading portfolio according to this new change.

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Usually I used strategy trading altcoins short term if the trend of price is down trend, i used candle chart 5M-15M,
taking profit although just small profit because the price will be down for long time,
and i used long term strategy if the trend of price up trend, used candle chart 1D-1W because the price will goes up
for long time, so for me depend on the trend of price.

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on May 01, 2017, 08:12:57 AM

what is according to you best practice?

By experience, I learned trading with long-term targets always getting me decent profits compared to day trading. I tried many times intra-day trading but most of the times, I just faced losses, yes the short-term targets are not working at all for me.

There are many deciding factors for these, but I have concluded for crypto short-term target will not work in our way because identifying a right influencing factor is completely difficult compared to any other trading type. This may be true because there are only very few influencing factors are dominating and deciding the price movements of cryptos.

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Quote from: roadbits on May 04, 2017, 05:34:59 AM

Quote from: Sled on May 03, 2017, 11:48:22 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on May 03, 2017, 11:28:52 PM

Quote from: shield132 on May 03, 2017, 12:08:42 PM

That "Long Term" investment in bitcoins isn't guaranteed because as there are chanses of price rising, as are chanses of price fall. So to my mind short term investment like trading daily is better than putting money and waiting years because if your trading is successful, than for example if you get daily 0.8% daily profit which is very possible from bitcoin, than in 10 day you will achieve 8% and if you decide long term, than simply keep bitcoins safe.

Tell me. How much would you have made if you bought and held Bitcoin starting on the year 2012 and compare it if you did short term trading beginning at the same time. I believe long term investing would make much more.

Of course long term investment is the best because bitcoin is keep rising in the few years past and it seems that it will repeat the scenario and bitcoin can reach up to $10,000 price each bitcoin and that is very high price and if we just believe in that and continue to collect bitcoin and keep it for long term then we could possibly earn that high amount.

To reach $10k how many years we have to wait, is this possible in 4 or 5 years. Becasue for me, 10 years waiting is not worth. I don't have extra money to invest in BTC. I want short term profit. Means I will wait for months but not for years. Now it is a good time for investment price is increasing too fast I think it may cross 1600 this weekend it is a nice profit for short time investors.

For me, 3 years would be enough to wait and see where your investment goes. And 10 years is too long though to get back and profit. Well if you have extra money or if you are really rich, then investment in bitcoin for even 5 years would not be a problem. But for almost all of us who are middle income, 3 years would be suffice. Because we don't really know what the future brings, maybe down the line we have some kind of emergencies that we need to pull our investment because we need money.

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Quote from: Sled on May 03, 2017, 11:48:22 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on May 03, 2017, 11:28:52 PM

Quote from: shield132 on May 03, 2017, 12:08:42 PM

That "Long Term" investment in bitcoins isn't guaranteed because as there are chanses of price rising, as are chanses of price fall. So to my mind short term investment like trading daily is better than putting money and waiting years because if your trading is successful, than for example if you get daily 0.8% daily profit which is very possible from bitcoin, than in 10 day you will achieve 8% and if you decide long term, than simply keep bitcoins safe.

Tell me. How much would you have made if you bought and held Bitcoin starting on the year 2012 and compare it if you did short term trading beginning at the same time. I believe long term investing would make much more.

Of course long term investment is the best because bitcoin is keep rising in the few years past and it seems that it will repeat the scenario and bitcoin can reach up to $10,000 price each bitcoin and that is very high price and if we just believe in that and continue to collect bitcoin and keep it for long term then we could possibly earn that high amount.

To reach $10k how many years we have to wait, is this possible in 4 or 5 years. Becasue for me, 10 years waiting is not worth. I don't have extra money to invest in BTC. I want short term profit. Means I will wait for months but not for years. Now it is a good time for investment price is increasing too fast I think it may cross 1600 this weekend it is a nice profit for short time investors.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on May 03, 2017, 11:28:52 PM

Quote from: shield132 on May 03, 2017, 12:08:42 PM

That "Long Term" investment in bitcoins isn't guaranteed because as there are chanses of price rising, as are chanses of price fall. So to my mind short term investment like trading daily is better than putting money and waiting years because if your trading is successful, than for example if you get daily 0.8% daily profit which is very possible from bitcoin, than in 10 day you will achieve 8% and if you decide long term, than simply keep bitcoins safe.

Tell me. How much would you have made if you bought and held Bitcoin starting on the year 2012 and compare it if you did short term trading beginning at the same time. I believe long term investing would make much more.

Of course long term investment is the best because bitcoin is keep rising in the few years past and it seems that it will repeat the scenario and bitcoin can reach up to $10,000 price each bitcoin and that is very high price and if we just believe in that and continue to collect bitcoin and keep it for long term then we could possibly earn that high amount.

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Quote from: shield132 on May 03, 2017, 12:08:42 PM

That "Long Term" investment in bitcoins isn't guaranteed because as there are chanses of price rising, as are chanses of price fall. So to my mind short term investment like trading daily is better than putting money and waiting years because if your trading is successful, than for example if you get daily 0.8% daily profit which is very possible from bitcoin, than in 10 day you will achieve 8% and if you decide long term, than simply keep bitcoins safe.

Tell me. How much would you have made if you bought and held Bitcoin starting on the year 2012 and compare it if you did short term trading beginning at the same time. I believe long term investing would make much more.

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That "Long Term" investment in bitcoins isn't guaranteed because as there are chanses of price rising, as are chanses of price fall. So to my mind short term investment like trading daily is better than putting money and waiting years because if your trading is successful, than for example if you get daily 0.8% daily profit which is very possible from bitcoin, than in 10 day you will achieve 8% and if you decide long term, than simply keep bitcoins safe.

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Quote from: erikalui on May 03, 2017, 11:39:33 AM

I prefer only short time investments, especially with alts, as the price of altcoins that do not have big markets get dumped very soon. Most of them don't even last for 6 months and the price reaches below 100 sats easily if people only keep dumping their coins. With bitcoins it doesn't happen as there are large number of investors who keep the market going and the number of trades do not allow the coins to get dumped pretty soon.

I want to assume that the altcoins you're referring to are those shitcoins with no aim/product/service. It was during the early days of crypto that Bitcoin clones coins were dumped that way. Right now, The altcoins is growing fast and It's even becoming more larger. I might be a daytrader but I know what coins can be profitable in the long run.

If I want to do short-term trading, I'd do that on yobit where majority of the listed coins are pump and dump coins. Aside from that, I hold coins backed by a solid team and good product for long-term.

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on May 01, 2017, 08:12:57 AM

Both type of trading have their perks, with long term you may end up with bigger margin of profit, but you have to be very patient for that, and in short term, you see growing your investment every day even though by a small amount.
But how do you prefer to trade? Especially when trading alts. Do you go with good potential coins and long term investment so you can only cash in when you get to a desired level of profit?
Or do you prefer day trading and go with whichever coin suits on the day.
And what is according to you best practice?

Long term or short term will depend on how do I look on a certain coin.

Those coins that will put on the idea of long term holding are those coins who have been in the crypto world for long period of time and already established a correction price after their big price increase due to some manipulations or any related thing to that. On the other hand, coins that will put in the idea of short term are those altcoins that extremely having a heavy price volume per day. Examples are those new coins that is now become available at the exchanges after their crowdfunding.

In the end, we are the one who can decide how we will treat a certain coin whether for long or short term.

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on May 01, 2017, 08:12:57 AM

Both type of trading have their perks, with long term you may end up with bigger margin of profit, but you have to be very patient for that, and in short term, you see growing your investment every day even though by a small amount.
But how do you prefer to trade? Especially when trading alts. Do you go with good potential coins and long term investment so you can only cash in when you get to a desired level of profit?
Or do you prefer day trading and go with whichever coin suits on the day.
And what is according to you best practice?

I prefer only short time investments, especially with alts, as the price of altcoins that do not have big markets get dumped very soon. Most of them don't even last for 6 months and the price reaches below 100 sats easily if people only keep dumping their coins. With bitcoins it doesn't happen as there are large number of investors who keep the market going and the number of trades do not allow the coins to get dumped pretty soon.

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It depends on you but if you were going to ask me like what the op said try both when you had plenty of time focus on trading will give you lots of profit like when you stock coins that has potential to grow every hour and keep those coins important that grow in month.

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on May 01, 2017, 08:12:57 AM

Both type of trading have their perks, with long term you may end up with bigger margin of profit, but you have to be very patient for that, and in short term, you see growing your investment every day even though by a small amount.
But how do you prefer to trade? Especially when trading alts. Do you go with good potential coins and long term investment so you can only cash in when you get to a desired level of profit?
Or do you prefer day trading and go with whichever coin suits on the day.
And what is according to you best practice?

In general, we can't state the proper thing to do especially when dealing in an altcoin trades. Most of the altcoins are experiencing an intentional price movement resulting for heavy fluctuations so even a trader go for long or short, it can wrecked and destroy their trading strategy. And pointing to the coin potential, we will never know until we will put some money there and learn to find the answer by ourselves.

For now, Bitcoin is the only appropriate currency to deal with long term goals as we all know the answer here. There may be some alts that can considered for long term too but I will not state some of them as I don't want to assume all things. We are playing games here in the first place so learn how to deal with all the risk we will encountered.

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on May 01, 2017, 08:12:57 AM

Both type of trading have their perks, with long term you may end up with bigger margin of profit, but you have to be very patient for that, and in short term, you see growing your investment every day even though by a small amount.
But how do you prefer to trade? Especially when trading alts. Do you go with good potential coins and long term investment so you can only cash in when you get to a desired level of profit?
Or do you prefer day trading and go with whichever coin suits on the day.
And what is according to you best practice?

Depends on peoples preference on how he want to see his profits its either for long term or short term but when you are preferring on trading altcoin then mostly itt would end up on long term basis because altcoin doesnt move just like on bitcoin.We never know on when to move but if you do have enough funds you can actually do both things short or long as long you do know how to trader on each method.

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In fact, nobody should say such a thing that the long term trading or short term trading is better then each one.
It is because all is dependant on the type of the trader that is going into the market, some of those are playing on very short positions, and some are doing long-term investments.
Personally I like scalping, where i just set up the stop loss and take profit on 10 pips on forex, and on altcoin trading it is also easy to calculate it.
This technique is on 1minute time frame usually, you need to close your transaction as soon as possibile. I've been using it and as far, it works well for me.

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Quote from: ArdiPrabowo on May 02, 2017, 05:35:26 PM

if you altcoin trading is good youre trading system use shor term every day take profit
because altcoin price flutuactive is very high in every day

Yeah but it can also fluctuate in the wrong direction. Better to buy and hold reliable alts IMO!

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