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This forum prioritizes freedom of speech and the fact that they don't ban promotion of other forum proves the bolded part. Sometimes competitors use that as an advantage to promote their product/service while they disallow others to promote on their forum/space. This sounds like a dumb relationship but that's how freedom of speech works. Does Bitcointalk care about that? Probably not because I have a feeling that this is just a forum that's hosted on server and admin pays money to keep website alive while doing some other job in his life. It's like when you buy Netflix subscription but have 0 time to watch any movie.
Should bitcointalk ban promotion of competitor forums? No, why should it? Does Apple ban Google Chrome, Google maps and other services from appstore? No. But Bitcointalk should definitely get financial benefit from allowing promotion of other forums.
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But it is not so much of a problem now, I think, because after a large number of teleported members in December and January, the speed has slowed down a lot and I don't see that at least for the moment that forum can compete with this one in a major way. In a few years, I don't know, but not today, especially considering that those of us who have a teleported account there still write here.

If you only just compare the traffic of both the forums and you will find a huge difference. I think that forum cannot even come close to this one in terms of popularity. Also the user experience of this forum is way better than others.

Also, when it comes to the companies, the first thing that look is that amount of traffic is on the platform, and bitcointalk for sure takes the lead. Also when it comes to promoting, why ban any forum or project ? Many projects start their Ann threads and campaigns here to get some popularity. I wonder if that forum starts its signature campaigns on this forum too  Smiley

Yes true, actually Altcointalk forum is not created to compete with this forum and if we add something positive contest etc here then nothing wrong with it just like Binance listed FtX, Kucoin listed BNB because they know that listing other exchanges coin will not down their popularity. Other forum in the front of this forum is just like comparison of altcoins with BTC. no other crypto forum become famous and also Google SEO of thia forum is on the top position

I like your ANN and signature point and it is very possible to attract more members admin can start Signature compaign. I also run one contest there and my experience remains good for both forum
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But it is not so much of a problem now, I think, because after a large number of teleported members in December and January, the speed has slowed down a lot and I don't see that at least for the moment that forum can compete with this one in a major way. In a few years, I don't know, but not today, especially considering that those of us who have a teleported account there still write here.

If you only just compare the traffic of both the forums and you will find a huge difference. I think that forum cannot even come close to this one in terms of popularity. Also the user experience of this forum is way better than others.

Also, when it comes to the companies, the first thing that look is that amount of traffic is on the platform, and bitcointalk for sure takes the lead. Also when it comes to promoting, why ban any forum or project ? Many projects start their Ann threads and campaigns here to get some popularity. I wonder if that forum starts its signature campaigns on this forum too  Smiley
legendary
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I think there is probably a worry or question from some members (including the OP) about what is potentially allowed to be discussed because of the recent mixers ban. It is possible it has raised concerns because of the number of members that have teleported to a forum that could continue to grow further in terms of influence as well as traffic.

But it is not so much of a problem now, I think, because after a large number of teleported members in December and January, the speed has slowed down a lot and I don't see that at least for the moment that forum can compete with this one in a major way. In a few years, I don't know, but not today, especially considering that those of us who have a teleported account there still write here.
legendary
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I think there is probably a worry or question from some members (including the OP) about what is potentially allowed to be discussed because of the recent mixers ban. It is possible it has raised concerns because of the number of members that have teleported to a forum that could continue to grow further in terms of influence as well as traffic.

I honestly don't see a huge problem with it, they are probably cross promoting Btslk anyhow. I have actually been thinking about joining other forums as well but for other purposes. Like I am interested in a hackers forum and maybe some other IT related forums etc just for educational purposes.
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I guess there’s no forum rule that talks about that. Probably because bitcointalk forum is not threaten by other forums and so no matter how often you advertise other forums, that won’t break the rule. However, just for the sake of being a responsible and trustworthy member, know what is good from bad before you insist it doing in the forum. At least, you should know how to respect the forum and its admin staff.
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I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

What is the opinion of members about this? Is it fine allowing members here to promote or mention competing forums without paying this forum owner or taking his permission  ?
so lets list these

telegram does miner sales which is competitive to our marketplace
discord teaches you how to mine various coins
meta promotes many miners and companies
x promotes many coins which is competitive to our forum
ebay does miner sales which is competitive to our marketplace
reddit so many ways they compete.
altcoinstalks competes on many levels.


I invite others to add to the list above.
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Nope. Most Simple Machines Forum sites have a basic cross-platform functionality and if bitcointalk were to ban the usage of other sites/promotion of other forums in here that would be a complete removal of a nifty feature that would’ve helped bitcointalk to reach other sites and potential users all because we don’t want to “promote” other sites.

Plus bitcointalk’s literally referred to as the advertiser forum for people and projects who want to get into advertising and increasing brand audience. The ban on mixers while necessary is already bad enough against its brand presence, barring access to crypto forums that allow promotion of brands that are barred from this site is going to cause even more problems for bitcointalk trust me.

Lastly, there is no real reason for theymos and the folks to ban the usage of crypto forums besides themselves. It’s already the number 1 site to go for when you’re thinking of getting into the crypto world. It has cemented itself in its top spot so there’s no undermining or sabotage that would happen that could change anything.
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I honestly don't see a huge problem with it, they are probably cross promoting Btslk anyhow. I have actually been thinking about joining other forums as well but for other purposes. Like I am interested in a hackers forum and maybe some other IT related forums etc just for educational purposes.
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I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

What is the opinion of members about this? Is it fine allowing members here to promote or mention competing forums without paying this forum owner or taking his permission  ?
Which forums have limitations on other forum promotions?  other forums are not as popular as btt so he might do this but I haven't seen it yet as I'm not familiar with the forums much. bitcointalk has always given everyone the freedom to use the forum freely. But it is always countered by scam projects, spreading fake news which is maintained by DT members. If someone is seen cheating or promoting a scam project, he is flagged with a red tag by DT members. actions are taken against plagiarism posts here too. but not for taking or promoting another forum
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To add to what I said above, I think someone might have asked this question before a very long time ago and if I remember correctly theymos even commented on it if someone wants to do some digging to see what he said.
Yobit and Cryptotalk had their signature campaign to shill Cryptotalk forum in 2019. Because initially it was a spam campaign, Bitcointalk community reacted to it and yahoo took over the campaign to clean spammers from participant list.

theymos even banned the Yobit account here because of abuse and some spammers from that campaign but eventually, he allowed Cryptotalk forum to advertise here via a signature campaign under yahoo62278.

I don't think that was it. I think someone else directly asked whether it was OK or allowed to advertise a competing forum and thyemos gave his opinion.
would love to know what Theymos said. I wish someone could dig that post up.
but I can assume theymose probably said he's ok with that. I don't see why would he not allow posting about other forums when thousands of other websites of any kind being promoted everyday here.
That's the beautify of this forum to give full freedom of it's users. as long as they stay constructive and use related boards to post their topics.
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I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. 
Well there you have it. The forum is not really bothered about such things because they aren't really in any form of competition. Maybe these other sites get bothered simply because users may get attracted by those sites and may want to move over to those places, thereby causing less traffic for them.
I feel the owner is ok with other forums as long as they don't have anything illegal about them.
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I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

What is the opinion of members about this? Is it fine allowing members here to promote or mention competing forums without paying this forum owner or taking his permission  ?
Their is no comparison or a competition concerning people of bitcointalk, what we are interested of is to ensure that we have make our self to be reliable and reputable, we don't need to comparing our forum with another forum, what we should be asking ourselves is what have we understood through the forum since we have partaken in forum, so I know quite well this forum is something that have to do with knowledge, impacting the knowledge of bitcoin and it technology across, so for bitcointalk we don't have competition within members of the forum.
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Since theymos didn't take action to completely ban people who promote Yobit or Cryptotalk, I guess there's will be no action too with altcoinstalks or any other forums that offer pay per post campaigns.

Theymos stopped the banner auctions a long time ago, so Bitcointalk really is running on a deficit.
I have no proof, but the forum still makes money by offering copper membership and evil IP address.
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I wouldn’t say they don’t care about their competitor. I’d say they don’t care to spend another second than they have to in order to manage this forum. BTC revenue is drying up as a result of this lack of wanting to put time in and I haven’t looked at the numbers recently but I wouldn’t be surprised if this forum is now operating on a BTC deficit.

Theymos stopped the banner auctions a long time ago, so Bitcointalk really is running on a deficit.
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I think that most likely the startpost is referring to Altcoinstalks. This is probably the only alternative to Bitcoin now. All other crypto forums are quite small. AE was the forum that almost died, but it was revived due to the fact that cryptomixers left the BT forum. But they didn’t go into the void, they went to the Altcoinstalks forum. Thanks to the influx of subscribers paying in Bitcoin, AT began to revive. And if you look at his statistics, everything is great there now. Currently there are 8 subscriptions with payment in bitcoins. In addition, there is such a thing as a “teleportation program”. This means that any user from this forum can move there while maintaining their rank. This is good marketing.
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Competing forums?
For a forum to compete with this one, it has to be a better coin IMO. I don't think this forum is in any competition with anybody and putting restrictions like that is kind of against what Bitcoin stands for. Bitcoin stands for freedom, so people should be allowed to do what they want to do as long as it's not illegal.
I believe a "competing forum" should only be restricted here if they carry out illicit activities on that forum, but if the forum is something like this, I don't see a new.
More forums make it easier for people to get more knowledge.

The way I see it, restrictions like that will further push people to abandon the forum and seek out places within the community where they will be relatively more free to express themselves.
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That only proves that bitcointalk does not care about its competitors, or let’s just say are there really competitors that are reputable and incredible like bitcointalk? I believe there’s none so there’s nothing to worry about because at the end of the day, those who have high faith in this forum will stay and those who have not are free to go.

Bitcointalk is clearly promoting freedom to everyone, most particularly when it comes to expressing our opinions and ideas. There’s no wrong here, every opinion and idea is right, and we can always chose to improve our own opinions and ideas from learning to others words of wisdom. That’s the high advantage of bitcointalk from other forums, competition is not a barrier and will not matter at all.

I wouldn’t say they don’t care about their competitor. I’d say they don’t care to spend another second than they have to in order to manage this forum. BTC revenue is drying up as a result of this lack of wanting to put time in and I haven’t looked at the numbers recently but I wouldn’t be surprised if this forum is now operating on a BTC deficit. As it should considering the hands off management approach has resulted in the destruction of a useful trust network and the complete abandonment of talent here. It’s a slow motion train wreck and nobody with the ability to do so has any desire to change it as they’ve already gotten all the BTC they ever will from it.
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That only proves that bitcointalk does not care about its competitors, or let’s just say are there really competitors that are reputable and incredible like bitcointalk? I believe there’s none so there’s nothing to worry about because at the end of the day, those who have high faith in this forum will stay and those who have not are free to go.

Bitcointalk is clearly promoting freedom to everyone, most particularly when it comes to expressing our opinions and ideas. There’s no wrong here, every opinion and idea is right, and we can always chose to improve our own opinions and ideas from learning to others words of wisdom. That’s the high advantage of bitcointalk from other forums, competition is not a barrier and will not matter at all.
legendary
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Yes, I know about cryptotalk.org. They failed to make any impact even after spending so much money paying users.
not only that, they doomed themselves from the get-go, the only reason why people flocked to their platform in the first place was because of the incentive of being paid just by posting. then once they started putting requirements and banning certain countries, the "active" users on their platform started to drop.

Personally, I as a forum owner will never allow a competing forum to advertise on my forum though.
that's good, I mean it's your forum and you'll decide what can be advertised or not.

But if you're worried, I wonder what you're worried about that you don't want to have competitors?
one thing I can think of is OP is afraid of losing active users.
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