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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 29, 2024, 11:25:47 AM

May I know which forum are you talking about? I saw such a limitation at least seven-eight years ago on a local forum where they did not allow us to discuss other online forums. But, I am not a member of too many forums except hack forums, nulled, cracked, Debian, altt, and this one. I don't remember if I have seen such limitations on those forums. I joined Altt very recently and I have mentioned the name of Bitcointalk a couple of times and no one asked me to stop discussing Bitcointalk forum.

Now, if you talk if this would be allowed or not. The answer is yes, it should be allowed. I don't think theymos want to censor the forum anymore. theymos is not afraid of the competitors. I don't consider any forum as a competitor of Bitcointalk.

Majority for sure its altcointalks. They gained attention here in BitcoinTalk since Theymos started banning Bitcoin Mixers. BitcoinTalk users teleport their accounts to Altcointalk by placing their altcointalk profile in their BitcoinTalk ad space. This wouldn't have happened if Theymos hadn't banned Mixers. But for me allowing other forums to advertise here is a healthy competition, providing users with more choices. This competition often encourages forums to improve but it still need to maintain quality discussion.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:41:16 AM

[...] One more thing, it is not my problem. I just gave a suggestion to forum owner. He may see this thread, the responses from members here and take some action if necessary.

Ah well, you can rest assured, then. The forum is quite confident with its position. It is the oldest and biggest forum, the "original" one, they don't mind someone talking about a forum or two. In fact, we even co-exist with some of them. For example, in scam accusations board [where one of the main purpose is to facilitate a dispute], we often refers people to other "forum", an arbitrator or two, when those sites offer a more efficient way to get a resolution for the case.

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The forum is structured so there is little or no censorship of any sort. AFAIK, the only rule that’s been added to the unofficial forum rules is the ban on sharing of mixer links or promoting a mixer in any way. The forum is not in competition with other forums, I don’t think you will find what you see on btt anywhere else.

Quote from: Mia Chloe on January 29, 2024, 11:20:42 AM

Banning is not necessary so long you are not promoting a scam project. From my experience on the forum, even when some user are scammers or promote scam projects , they are not banned most times but rather they are given multiple tags by forum members including DT members.

Scams are not moderated on Bitcointalk, that’s why accounts caught in the act do not get banned. The best we can do is to tag the accounts.

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I have not seen such members in this forum promoting other forums, except you because you admit it that you're actually into it. I guess this forum is not entertaining that kind of case anymore as it's obvious that bitcointalk is not threatened by other forums. And when I think of banning, that only happens if you are doing what is against the forum laws, and promoting another forum might not be included into its rule.

However, that's a matter of initiative and proper thinking already. You don't have to ask the forum but ask yourself if you are actually doing the right thing?

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:15:04 AM

I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

What is the opinion of members about this? Is it fine allowing members here to promote or mention competing forums without paying this forum owner or taking his permission ?

Bitcointalk is overwhelmingly ahead, don't think they'd be worried in terms of competion. In addition, mentioning other communities contributes to a lot of discussions hence such ban would only hinder the discussion value of our threads. Simply put, it's counter-productive.

Quote from: Adbitco on January 29, 2024, 12:45:10 PM

What i know is not allowed to promote here is referral link even as that you can include your ref link to your signature space instead of posting any place in the forum, because ref link might lead to scam and scam isn't moderated here but they try as much eliminate what would result to scam,

The restriction is most likely to tone down the possible spam, it's an open secret that affiliate links tend to be spammed.

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Wait a moment why would they ban any other forum or site? What i know is not allowed to promote here is referral link even as that you can include your ref link to your signature space instead of posting any place in the forum, because ref link might lead to scam and scam isn't moderated here but they try as much eliminate what would result to scam, and also those who promoted such site can either be ban or given a temporary ban as a warning and If they keeps promoting that site they will be permanently be ban. So, in my opinion you can talk about other forum but not directly copying post from that site and post here directly without any reference link or authorship name.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:15:04 AM

I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

What is the opinion of members about this? Is it fine allowing members here to promote or mention competing forums without paying this forum owner or taking his permission ?

OP, if you must know, there is a difference between promoting something and when you only mention the name of that thing without giving a lot of details about it.

Let's assume I learnt something very educational on this forum (BTT) and I happen to come across a similar topic on a different forum, I can simply share my idea with them there and tell them that I learnt that idea from Bitcointalk. In any way, that doesn't mean I am promoting Bitcointalk directly, but for curiosity sake, some people can search about Bitcointalk because I mentioned, but that is not a direct promoting of Bitcointalk on another forum.

Promoting a project or a forum means, you need to actually give a more concised information about that forum, the importance of that forum and other good characters of that forum or product, otherwise, it wouldn't count as a promotion.

When a discussion goes deep, different ideas could be shared and people can mention something, because it was really necessary to mention it at that moment, and you can not classify that as Promotion.

Perhaps, what other forum are you talking about? If I guess right, the one on your signature? Lol...

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If other forums you are registered with do not allow the mention of Bitcointalk (other forums), it is a strange way to enforce censorship. Forums are a mechanism to have discussion about many topics but to ban a name because it is viewed as a competitor seems strange. What would it achieve by banning the promotion (or general discussion) of other forums? Can you name the forums you refer to as competing forums?

Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:15:04 AM

I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

What is the opinion of members about this? Is it fine allowing members here to promote or mention competing forums without paying this forum owner or taking his permission ?

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:15:04 AM

What is the opinion of members about this? Is it fine allowing members here to promote or mention competing forums without paying this forum owner or taking his permission ?

What do you think Op if Elon decides to block all links that has to do with Facebook and instagram because they are competing social media?

Besides Bitcointalk does not censor posts so it would not be very wise for the admin to start censoring or filtering post that contains a certain forum just because they both have something in common which is they’re both a discussion forum for crypto, think about Op how does it sound to you?

Although, altcointalks did something like this in the past but recently the admin removed it.

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I don't think that's necessary. People should be free to promote/wear links of any service as long as it is not illegal or nearly illegal like mixers. If people find the other forum better than this one, they are free to go there.

If the admin bans promotion, more people will wonder what the other forum has to offer over this one and that ban will probably backfire. In my opinion, the other forum has absolutely nothing to offer other than the mixer sig camps.

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There's no need, simply because traditional forums such as Bitcointalk are mostly a thing of the past already and a traditional forum alternative is very unlikely to overtake Bitcointalk. I'm pretty sure Bitcointalk would have very few active users today if it weren't for bounty campaigns anyway.

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If you mean altcoinstalk, don't worry the people there are also from BTT. This is about spreading the word about cryptocurrency, both communities should get along. As much as they promote altcoins, they love BTC the most.

Why do you consider them an IM forum? The discussions are obviously about cryptocurrencies. The new users who will find that forum the first will eventually be able to find their way to bitcointlak as well.

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Bitcointalk is not in competition with any other crypto related forum, so it's perfectly fine to discuss other forums.

The one time the admin banned a forum from being advertised here was one some yes back that was paying members to spam posts here on the forum. I can't remember the name now, but the spams we're getting out of hand and needed to be regulated.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:41:16 AM

One more thing, it is not my problem. I just gave a suggestion to forum owner. He may see this thread, the responses from members here and take some action if necessary.

So you want the admin to take action against all those users who somehow promote other forums? Can you kindly tell me that which forum members of this forum are promoting? If I'm not wrong then most members of this forum have joined another forum for some reasons but none of those members are trying to promote that forum even that forum or its staff has never ever said anyone to promote their forum. Bitcointalk doesn't stop promotion of any service as far as I know and that's the main reason why most gambling sites promote their services on this forum.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 29, 2024, 11:36:43 AM

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:15:04 AM

I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

This is concerning for everyone Angry

as without naming the forum you want us to reply. Please be specific, it would be easy to understand your query if you could name the forum in question and what led you to this topic. I haven't seen any other forum stopping anyone of discussing about Bitcointalk and I have not been in any scenario where our mods decided to stop us naming other forum.

It is not a crypto forum. It is a popular IM forum that has this rule.

What do you meam by IM? Instant messaging? Or something else. I am not that good with shorter form of any big name. Can you please elaborate as being in detailed can help us solve your problem.

IM refers to Internet marketing. Or in other words, make money online. One more thing, it is not my problem. I just gave a suggestion to forum owner. He may see this thread, the responses from members here and take some action if necessary.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:30:49 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 29, 2024, 11:27:32 AM

Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:15:04 AM

I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

This is concerning for everyone Angry

as without naming the forum you want us to reply. Please be specific, it would be easy to understand your query if you could name the forum in question and what led you to this topic. I haven't seen any other forum stopping anyone of discussing about Bitcointalk and I have not been in any scenario where our mods decided to stop us naming other forum.

It is not a crypto forum. It is a popular IM forum that has this rule.

What do you meam by IM? Instant messaging? Or something else. I am not that good with shorter form of any big name. Can you please elaborate as being in detailed can help us solve your problem.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:15:04 AM

I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

What is the opinion of members about this? Is it fine allowing members here to promote or mention competing forums without paying this forum owner or taking his permission ?

Why do People, companies or entities ban a competitor? Because they are in competition with them and the competition lead to them losing members/costumers and in turn lose profits. Now the question you need to ask yourself is; is Bitcointalk in contention or gaining profits through something like advertisements with any other platform that if they allow other platforms they will lose those platforms for advertising here? The answer is No because they do not run a revenue stream here. The forum is just a discussion place where the community talk about bitcoin and cryptocurrency at large. It is not like Twitter (X) fighting with Instagram for members.

Do you know why Bitcointalk will never ban those forums because they are basically also promoting bitcoin or even other cryptocurrencies which is the main reason of this forum just to create that large audience. If someone is not happy with some rules here you can join other forums at the end we are all in for bitcoin global adoption.

Also if you might think that other altcoin forums will create altcoin competitions against bitcoin i will tell you that they can’t because bitcoin is heads and shoulders above any coin. It is the bedrock of cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 29, 2024, 11:27:32 AM

Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:15:04 AM

I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

This is concerning for everyone Angry

as without naming the forum you want us to reply. Please be specific, it would be easy to understand your query if you could name the forum in question and what led you to this topic. I haven't seen any other forum stopping anyone of discussing about Bitcointalk and I have not been in any scenario where our mods decided to stop us naming other forum.

It is not a crypto forum. It is a popular IM forum that has this rule.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on January 29, 2024, 11:15:04 AM

I have seen that this forum does not consider it inappropriate when some member makes a post or thread about a competing forum. I am a member of other popular forums and they do not allow mention of competing forums as it is free advertising for them.

This is concerning for everyone Angry

as without naming the forum you want us to reply. Please be specific, it would be easy to understand your query if you could name the forum in question and what led you to this topic. I haven't seen any other forum stopping anyone of discussing about Bitcointalk and I have not been in any scenario where our mods decided to stop us naming other forum.

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May I know which forum are you talking about? I saw such a limitation at least seven-eight years ago on a local forum where they did not allow us to discuss other online forums. But, I am not a member of too many forums except hack forums, nulled, cracked, Debian, altt, and this one. I don't remember if I have seen such limitations on those forums. I joined Altt very recently and I have mentioned the name of Bitcointalk a couple of times and no one asked me to stop discussing Bitcointalk forum.

Now, if you talk if this would be allowed or not. The answer is yes, it should be allowed. I don't think theymos want to censor the forum anymore. theymos is not afraid of the competitors. I don't consider any forum as a competitor of Bitcointalk.

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