Should online gambling companies be responsible for harm related activities? - page 10.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on July 23, 2021, 10:43:07 AM

Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling? Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?

So far I have not read a gambler suing online gambling sites because he loss huge money from betting because of this so-called CSR a gambling site is a gambling site, they can only remind you and encourage you to become a responsible bettor but all your action on betting as long as you are not cheating and within their rules, they cannot interfere, it's on you to discipline yourself.

The fee on filing case and sue the casino operator is very expensive and nearly impossible to win unless you reside on the country which your operator registered/operating. Imagine spending million dollars for lawyers and filling fee to sue a company that has no declared physical location and no known owner. It will be more convenient to move on and recover loss through job salary compared to chasing them like a wind.

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Free will is important despite the potential repercussions of it. My state just allowed legalized gambling and every commercial or advertisement has to come with a warning, just like cigarettes do. However if you want to smoke yourself to death or blow all of your money, then that should be your right. Sure there will always be innocent bystanders but to try and prevent free will is just often very wrong. So with free will can come repercussions but the companies that provide the service aren't forcing anyone to use them. It's your choice and if you can't handle it then don't start or get help..but don't blame the hand that you loved feeding you until you went beyond your means.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on July 23, 2021, 10:43:07 AM

Most online gambling companies claim that they are ethical providers who are committed to corporate social responsibility (CSR) practices.

But not to the point that they can handle everyone's problem in gambling. If you see someone getting crazy especially around you, try reaching out to their family and suggest seeking help from a gambling rehabilitation service if you are concerned.

It's been already written in the book that a gambler must be responsible at all times even how hard to resist gambling. It's a practice that can't be done in just a short period of time.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on July 24, 2021, 06:14:11 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on July 23, 2021, 10:43:07 AM

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My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?

Well, perhaps no --even though they had a term of use to read but not all were given it there that purely has a concern to their users.
It is our responsibility for harm-related activities in such online casinos, we are the ones who put control ourselves and emotion in playing gambling and there should always be a limit in all activities had. There could be a short warning like a cigarette pack you will see there the warning to the people but they want to keeps using them. Gamble is just your own, at least this is the best practice for responsible gamblers.

If gambling do create such problem then why others would be still existing like cigarettes' and alcohol.This do proves out that they do let these things to exist because it could really give out that benefit.
It is just on how people do really control on engaging into these things.If they do let themselves spending too much or making it as a habit then you do know on what would be the consquences.
Addiction is on anything that you do involved in severe manner and we know that it would really be ending up on a disaster for an individual.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on July 23, 2021, 10:43:07 AM

Most online gambling companies claim that they are ethical providers who are committed to corporate social responsibility (CSR) practices.

They propose, that their CSR are targeted at preventing or minimizing the harm associated with their activities. However, we are aware that those who are severely addicted to gambling have shown several mental and physical health, social relationships and academic and work performance issues.

Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling? Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?

Where have you seen that severely gambling addicted people are showing severe mental and physical health disorders and social relationships, academic and work performance issues? Huh

Do you have some serious sources about that? Strangely we never see this kind of bashing against trading while it's basically the same thing.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on July 24, 2021, 06:14:11 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on July 23, 2021, 10:43:07 AM

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My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?

Well, perhaps no --even though they had a term of use to read but not all were given it there that purely has a concern to their users.
It is our responsibility for harm-related activities in such online casinos, we are the ones who put control ourselves and emotion in playing gambling and there should always be a limit in all activities had. There could be a short warning like a cigarette pack you will see there the warning to the people but they want to keeps using them. Gamble is just your own, at least this is the best practice for responsible gamblers.

Online gambling companies are not responsible for what happens to gamblers, they only provide facilities for people to play gambling and
get entertainment. Gamblers need to be able to control themselves so as not to overplay, which can make them addicted. Because we decide
to play online gambling, we must already know the risks, so we can't blame online gambling companies if bad things happen to gamblers.
If we do not want to become addicted to gambling and do not want to lose a lot of money, there is no need to play gambling. Because from
the start, gamblers have indeed played online gambling, of their own volition and there is no coercion at all from online gambling companies.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on July 23, 2021, 10:43:07 AM

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My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?

Well, perhaps no --even though they had a term of use to read but not all were given it there that purely has a concern to their users.
It is our responsibility for harm-related activities in such online casinos, we are the ones who put control ourselves and emotion in playing gambling and there should always be a limit in all activities had. There could be a short warning like a cigarette pack you will see there the warning to the people but they want to keeps using them. Gamble is just your own, at least this is the best practice for responsible gamblers.

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This is a very hard question. One the one side I think that casinos should make sure to inform their customers about risk involved. Gambling addiction can lead to serious issues, including losing all our money. Ruining complete life's is no good publicity and should be avoided. Here the government needs to step in with rules. There needs to be a common framework to protect the gambler. On the other side however the casino can't protect gamblers from all the risks. Casinos are private companies who need to turn a profit.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 24, 2021, 04:55:24 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on July 23, 2021, 10:43:07 AM

Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling? Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?

I am replying to this thread late. I have some experience about addiction as I was a gambling addict before. I have used my country's gambling site before, foreign one and crypto gambling sites too. My country's gambling sites do not have any protection for addicts, I remember I can send high amount of money daily to the gambling sites and nothing will happen if I lost it. I later used foreign gambling site, they have some protections which is not even helping, like selecting certain amount to be spending monthly which can not be changed often but you will have to wait for like a day before you will be able to increase it, but it can be increased to $5000, this still makes it not protective. I lost thousands into the gambling site. Crypto gambling sites are not also different. It is good for people to know that the responsibility rest on them not to be an addict because no betting company cares.

Glad that you share your own personal experience and it only shows that the action should really come from the gambler himself and not from the casino or government. They can't control your gambling activities and they can only warn about the potential consequences of gambling addiction but that's it. They won't do anything to really prevent it. Inside the casino, whether offline or online, what they want is spend as much money as you can to their games. They won't stop you from playing. That's the truth. So if you do care of yourself, you need to start thinking of how to limit your gambling activities.

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Quote from: ipanks on July 24, 2021, 12:56:20 PM

The online gambling companies should not be responsible for the gambler because they only accommodate people to have fun and enjoy by giving many gambling games to play. If those people can not manage their money and time in the gambling game, people can not blame the companies because of those people's decisions. But the online gambling companies can warn the gamblers about how much money they already used to gamble so the gamblers can stop playing gambling. And if the gambler does not follow the suggestion, that will be up to them and in that time, the online gambling games can not get the responsibility if the gamblers are losing much money.

If they are responsible of addiction then these businesses wont exist on the first place and since each government does have its own decision towards this business then not all would be sharing the same thoughts or views.

Some would ban it and some would accept it because they do mind of about the revenue that it could possibly give and rather focus on economic development than minding off about their citizens condition
about possible addiction.

You are the ones you should be responsible towards self and not would be blamed it of to those businesses or platforms out there.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on July 23, 2021, 10:43:07 AM

Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling? Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?

I am replying to this thread late. I have some experience about addiction as I was a gambling addict before. I have used my country's gambling site before, foreign one and crypto gambling sites too. My country's gambling sites do not have any protection for addicts, I remember I can send high amount of money daily to the gambling sites and nothing will happen if I lost it. I later used foreign gambling site, they have some protections which is not even helping, like selecting certain amount to be spending monthly which can not be changed often but you will have to wait for like a day before you will be able to increase it, but it can be increased to $5000, this still makes it not protective. I lost thousands into the gambling site. Crypto gambling sites are not also different. It is good for people to know that the responsibility rest on them not to be an addict because no betting company cares.

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I also believe the online and offline gambling sites not to be responsible for the harms associated with their activities because the service they provide is not in a white and black form is something that's clear but it only a few gamblers that accept the major concept of gambling which is what's causing the harm related to gambling.

Yes, a lot of gambling companies have taken steps to minimize the harm caused by gambling but the problem is still the same, addicted gamblers are immature to accept the major concepts of gambling.

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To be honest I don't know any gambling that expends considerable efforts on consumer responsibility and awareness campaigns or any other kind of aid for addicts. After all, addicts are a source of revenue so it is kind of a conflict of interest. In an ideal world, casinos owners should be ethical persons, but we all know that they aren't.

Displaying a label that you should "bet responsibly" is similar to the much more explicit warnings on cigarette packs. They have no effect on addicts as far as I noticed besides making them more anxious that produces more smoking.

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The online gambling companies should not be responsible for the gambler because they only accommodate people to have fun and enjoy by giving many gambling games to play. If those people can not manage their money and time in the gambling game, people can not blame the companies because of those people's decisions. But the online gambling companies can warn the gamblers about how much money they already used to gamble so the gamblers can stop playing gambling. And if the gambler does not follow the suggestion, that will be up to them and in that time, the online gambling games can not get the responsibility if the gamblers are losing much money.

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Individuals are responsible for there actions just like telling a smoker that smokers are liable to die Young and then giving him a smoke. Everyone will be charged of their own actions whether it's intentionally or consciously. Online companies can not be held responsible for any misconduct from gamblers in the society because this is choice and everybody has the liberty to choose between what they want and what they don't.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 24, 2021, 06:46:33 AM

gambling sites cannot stop or limit how much they deposit and how long they want to play

it reminds me that there was a time in my country when the government started to go after gambling they started to determine that gambling companies should limit how much money players could gamble, and now that I've read your post I'm starting to remember that they were talking about putting laws on it, I'll do more research on the subject to find out if my country's government has put in place laws to limit the amount that each person can play on gambling sites, but I remember that all people from my country did not like this attitude of the government, because it is a dictatorship for a government to say what its people should or should not do with their money that they work so hard to earn.

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Quote from: tippytoes on July 23, 2021, 07:18:28 PM

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Yes. moreover, not all gamblers can be honest or aware that they are being addicted to the gamblers themselves.
Although I finally found some gambling sites that provide special services for those who are addicted, will it is effective? I don't think so, moreover if the gamblers themselves are not aware that they are addicted or even doing something bad because of gambling.
And isn't the more and most visited gambling sites used then they will be happier?

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Quote from: AicecreaME on July 24, 2021, 10:42:57 AM

I don't think they are the one that has responsibility on that.

We are all aware that gambling could affect us negatively or positively before we even play, and gambling sites never forgot to warn us about it either. It is us who should be taken care of ourselves in everything we do, if we want to play gambling then we should be prepared to lose something. It's so immature to engage on something crucial when it comes to money yet if we lose we will put the blame on the other party.

I also agree with you on this point. Gambling sites never force us to play. A user plays knowing his own risk. If there are no complaints if he has made a profit, then why all the complaints will go to the gambling site if he loses?

Well, it's hard to provide complaints that could lead to all the liability on gambling companies when quite a few are unlicensed and complaint behavior only reflects that we are trying to break the law, the law will also attack us, they do not guarantee the rights of those who deliberately disregard what has been written. Even for licensed and accredited online companies, the joining process is very demanding in terms of age and responsibility, our complaints will also be canceled by these original rules, no need to waste time

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on July 23, 2021, 04:47:53 PM

Gambling seems to be painted as though it was a vice these days. Seriously, it's no more a bad sh*t like it is to drinking beer! I can almost categories them to be about the same thing.
Gambling and Gaking Beer is rated age sixteen and its advised to drink responsible as well as for you as a gambler to gamble responsible. Yet people get drunk and commit the actual vice without the brewery being crucified for it and so is expected of gambling platforms too. They are barely responsible for what a person does with his or her freewill after passing out informations on a responsible gambling.

Besides, even in the event that a gambler should put out a huge stake and he or she is being warned for it, the gambler is sure to have a mixed feeling if he or she is being warned due to a potential win and would still push on. Gamblers are entirely responsible for there actions!

Drinking beer without moderation is not good though and comparing the two is the same. If gambling or drinking is not controlled then it is a risk to your mental and physical health. I enjoy a beer or three but I think both beer and gambling should be advertising the risks of addiction a lot more kind of like how cigarette companies do.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on July 24, 2021, 10:42:57 AM

I don't think they are the one that has responsibility on that.

We are all aware that gambling could affect us negatively or positively before we even play, and gambling sites never forgot to warn us about it either. It is us who should be taken care of ourselves in everything we do, if we want to play gambling then we should be prepared to lose something. It's so immature to engage on something crucial when it comes to money yet if we lose we will put the blame on the other party.

Maybe if they have that concern for those people who unable to control and get addicted,

but like how OP describe it most of those gambling sites both online and offline are all after with the money of those patrons who keeps
on losing their money, they are not really engage with this kind of obligations what matter most are the money that will flow and how they'll going to keep those people to stay and always visit the site from time to time.

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