I don't think that it is their responsibilities at all would the fast food chains or food industry be responsible for any harm related to over eating?
It is all under our control so why blame the companies when it was all due to your action(or their action) they didn't force you to do it.
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July 28, 2021, 12:33:01 PM
July 28, 2021, 10:57:28 AM
Addiction is something that really puts this business to be profitable and its really an advantage imho but they are really aware on what are the things that they could give out into its users
this is why some sites does have that consolation links or even reminders about on how addicting gambling is.It is really just on peoples self control on how they do gamble out.
Its just right for them to took the blame?No they should not because this is a personal problem or persona choice.You had let yourself get addicted and this is something a gambling place
or site hadnt really any control of.So the one to be blamed is yourself.
this is why some sites does have that consolation links or even reminders about on how addicting gambling is.It is really just on peoples self control on how they do gamble out.
Its just right for them to took the blame?No they should not because this is a personal problem or persona choice.You had let yourself get addicted and this is something a gambling place
or site hadnt really any control of.So the one to be blamed is yourself.
drink beer until you forget your way home, from that statement we know Kasion provides everything so that you still feel comfortable there. If you want to go right away, they offer Entertainment. Either way, you won't be allowed to leave before all the balance you have is at stake.
Although the addict admits to what he is doing is a wrong choice, but still lust can not be defeated by the mind that has escaped by the curiosity that continues to control your mental. Nothing can stop you, because if you have 10 reasons to quit, then the Casino has 1000 of ways to keep you going.
July 28, 2021, 10:22:21 AM
So that means, before we gamble, we should be ready with whatever will happen in gambling to prepare ourselves not to feel sad when we lose. If we can win the games, that will be fine but do not try to play for more because we never know if we can still win in the next game or lose our money and win money. The casino only gives you pleasure in playing so many gambling games and the rest will be up to you and you will need responsibility to take care of yourself.
Does it mean that controlling the time will be very useful? because that way we can have limits in gambling. At least make a reminder of how long we have to gamble in a day or how long we have spent money based on a predetermined time.
I haven't heard of any such method for any gambling. Because, usually when we gamble, we don't really care about the time that has been passed, the most important thing is to catch up and get it back until it finally consumes all the remaining funds.
Since 2017, I have been playing at FreeBitco.In, and on other platforms, and my learning has been based on the essay and error, and I discovered that the longer I was playing, the chances of losing were greater, of course, I used Many patterns that made me lose.
But now I have determined that it is better to last a long time playing the slot machines and making very small bets, I always use the slots to dismiss me and for fun, of course the money I have on the slot is very little and controlled and willing to lose.
But I think the tragamonedasy in poker tournaments, the longer they play the probability of winning increase.
I do not know if you have the same perception regarding that kind of games.
July 28, 2021, 08:44:16 AM
OP, from the many answers I read above, I agree that gambling companies should not be held responsible for what happen to gamblers. If you know that gambling is a risky activity, then of course they should also be held accountable for the gambling they do.
In a country where gambling is legal maybe the government imposes a limit on the budget that gamblers use every month, I've read a few time about this before on the forum. But the point is, every gambler really should have some responsibility for his or her gambling because it is not just about money but there are many other effect they might receive once it's all gone.
In a country where gambling is legal maybe the government imposes a limit on the budget that gamblers use every month, I've read a few time about this before on the forum. But the point is, every gambler really should have some responsibility for his or her gambling because it is not just about money but there are many other effect they might receive once it's all gone.
July 28, 2021, 08:37:37 AM
Most online gambling companies claim that they are ethical providers who are committed to corporate social responsibility (CSR) practices.
They propose, that their CSR are targeted at preventing or minimizing the harm associated with their activities. However, we are aware that those who are severely addicted to gambling have shown several mental and physical health, social relationships and academic and work performance issues.
Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling? Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
Is there any knife manufacturer responsible for the harm-related activities? Or should they be? There are types of people who use the knife to cut the bread and there are others who use it for murder. The same applies to gambling, there are two types of people: 1. Those who get the fun and excitement from gambling and 2 - Those who want to become rich from it and the whole opposite happens - they are getting nervous, addicted and ruin their lives.They propose, that their CSR are targeted at preventing or minimizing the harm associated with their activities. However, we are aware that those who are severely addicted to gambling have shown several mental and physical health, social relationships and academic and work performance issues.
Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling? Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
While personally I think that it's not their duty to be responsible for this because they are just the service provider and their stated goal for you is to get fun, there are still a lot of companies and especially popular ones like Betsson who run the gambling harm reduction campaigns and in my country, they were spending their own money for rehabs and were fully financing the treatments for gambling addicts.
July 28, 2021, 08:19:13 AM
In addition, I also heard that online casinos also do KYC for security purposes.
Gradually indeed the KYC process will soon be implemented on casino platforms that already have a legal license because this has become a rule on their part that has allowed gambling to be legalized, but this is still a pro and con some don't want this to happen because they want the casino crypto remains anonymous and what can be done is all on the side of the team that does this and only some casinos have implemented KYC, like Roobet and maybe others will follow suit in the future.There are still casinos out there who aren't asking for KYC, or maybe they do it sporadically or only in cases where they detected suspicious activities. I don't know if they have to provide data to authorities about their clients, but it seems to not be the case sometimes as KYC would be the only way for them to precisely identify their players and the data authorities might be asking for.
July 28, 2021, 07:09:25 AM
If a gambling site does not violate any rules, norms and pays taxes, then it is not obliged to treat people with gambling addiction. This should be done by the state, which has licensed gambling activities on its territory and collects taxes from gambling sites.
July 28, 2021, 06:57:22 AM
Its just there for sake but no gambling site is going to restrict people from playing in there unless they are cheating or involved with verbal abuse with someone or else they will be allowed to play as long as the user is willing to bet. In my opinion the users are responsible for their gambling activities because no gambling site is forcing is to keep gambling means we are doing it at our own risk.
Exactly.
That's the point. Gambling is just a business, nothing personal. Their point of existence is just to make money alone, no one is required to play mandatory, we have our own choices, and addiction on it is inevitable since it's part of gambling negative effects to people, and we all know that. The only sad part of it is people ignore the fact that they could addicted if they lack of self-control, therefore others put the blame to other parties.
July 28, 2021, 06:54:18 AM
I don't think they should be responsible because just like with any other addictions you can't put the blame on the source knowing they're not forcing their customers to consume the product. But gambling sites are trying their best to come up with a few solutions as long as their players are willing to admit their addiction. The main issue with online gambling addiction is that most gambling sites only have limited solutions since they can only put restrictions within the site. It could affect the gambler in some way but it all comes down on how he'll react or control his addiction knowing that he can always open another account on a different site.
They already clean their hands out when they let you read their agreement when you registered on their site. Since most of the time, things like this are meant to happen, they already make their way out of it. so they won't be blamed if it would happen to you in the future. so the answer is no, they won't take any responsibility after you agreed with their terms.
we know that this is not their responsibilities but at least be Human enough to help people.
July 28, 2021, 06:45:23 AM
I don't think they should be responsible because just like with any other addictions you can't put the blame on the source knowing they're not forcing their customers to consume the product. But gambling sites are trying their best to come up with a few solutions as long as their players are willing to admit their addiction. The main issue with online gambling addiction is that most gambling sites only have limited solutions since they can only put restrictions within the site. It could affect the gambler in some way but it all comes down on how he'll react or control his addiction knowing that he can always open another account on a different site.
They already clean their hands out when they let you read their agreement when you registered on their site. Since most of the time, things like this are meant to happen, they already make their way out of it. so they won't be blamed if it would happen to you in the future. so the answer is no, they won't take any responsibility after you agreed with their terms.
July 28, 2021, 06:30:14 AM
Yes they should be responsible, that's not something to ask because they have to customers have consumer rights and they have to comply with those if they want to stay in business. But there's limitations to that because there are cheaters that get in those sites to cause harm so to a certain degree they can enforce their own rules to remove that malicious person out of their business.
July 28, 2021, 06:07:00 AM
Its just there for sake but no gambling site is going to restrict people from playing in there unless they are cheating or involved with verbal abuse with someone or else they will be allowed to play as long as the user is willing to bet. In my opinion the users are responsible for their gambling activities because no gambling site is forcing is to keep gambling means we are doing it at our own risk.
There is no way an online casino can be held responsible for a person choice of action. People are different and weird, and you can't expect gamblers to be that rational. It would be an impossible task if not an unnecessary burden to have these gambling platforms keep their customers in check, at the end of the day, all they care about is their business and not the state of mind the other person on the other side of the screen feels.
this is indeed a personal choice on where you do act accordingly into your own will neither you do spend more or less with the gambling activity you've been engaging.
Self will is something that cant be controlled and its totally not impossible on monitoring every users that do gamble in your platform or your place as a business owner.
So i wouldnt stress out myself for that one.
This all really matters on personal choice that's why we cannot chase back if something happen to the gambler since they are just building a business to gain profits and its not their problem if something bad happen to their costumer since this is not written on their Tos about this kind of situation.
I agree that its not impossible to control ourself since we can get out if we really have an urge or self control to quit. And also its our choice to became addicted so there's no obligation came from companies who solely offer entertainment here.
July 28, 2021, 05:47:34 AM
So that means, before we gamble, we should be ready with whatever will happen in gambling to prepare ourselves not to feel sad when we lose. If we can win the games, that will be fine but do not try to play for more because we never know if we can still win in the next game or lose our money and win money. The casino only gives you pleasure in playing so many gambling games and the rest will be up to you and you will need responsibility to take care of yourself.
Does it mean that controlling the time will be very useful? because that way we can have limits in gambling. At least make a reminder of how long we have to gamble in a day or how long we have spent money based on a predetermined time.
I haven't heard of any such method for any gambling. Because, usually when we gamble, we don't really care about the time that has been passed, the most important thing is to catch up and get it back until it finally consumes all the remaining funds.
Maybe you haven't heard that method because that is not written in the book (I guess), but you can try it if you think it can help you limit your gambling time. If you do not care how long you spend your time playing gambling, you will see how long you can survive in the gambling games.
July 27, 2021, 04:15:26 PM
Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling? Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
Obviously yes, but is it not the addiction is the heart for their business? The more one gambles / plays online on their sites, they get the revenue. And yes they must have a control of CSR policies, however is it not that one who plays is responsible for his / her addiction besides the online companies. Number of players are the fundamental needs for a online gamble and yes, its the players responsibility to have a control on himself / herself not alone any companies. They players should remind himself of his ability now and then.
July 27, 2021, 03:27:48 PM
Its just there for sake but no gambling site is going to restrict people from playing in there unless they are cheating or involved with verbal abuse with someone or else they will be allowed to play as long as the user is willing to bet. In my opinion the users are responsible for their gambling activities because no gambling site is forcing is to keep gambling means we are doing it at our own risk.
There is no way an online casino can be held responsible for a person choice of action. People are different and weird, and you can't expect gamblers to be that rational. It would be an impossible task if not an unnecessary burden to have these gambling platforms keep their customers in check, at the end of the day, all they care about is their business and not the state of mind the other person on the other side of the screen feels.
this is indeed a personal choice on where you do act accordingly into your own will neither you do spend more or less with the gambling activity you've been engaging.
Self will is something that cant be controlled and its totally not impossible on monitoring every users that do gamble in your platform or your place as a business owner.
So i wouldnt stress out myself for that one.
July 27, 2021, 03:13:30 PM
CSR must be carried out by big companies that get permission from the government, earn big profits and have a negative impact on the public. We know that online gambling companies have quite a lot of causes of gambling addiction, so they should be obliged to do CSR. but it all depends on the policies of the government in their respective countries, if they turn a blind eye to this obligation then the community will lose.
July 27, 2021, 03:06:57 PM
There is no way an online casino can be held responsible for a person choice of action. People are different and weird, and you can't expect gamblers to be that rational.
I reckon. But people who cannot accept their lose will look for a way to blame the casino for the "harm" that the casino they get in which in the first place, they are the ones who freely and willingly choose to gamble.
It would be an impossible task if not an unnecessary burden to have these gambling platforms keep their customers in check, at the end of the day, all they care about is their business and not the state of mind the other person on the other side of the screen feels.
Yup, it's all about business and good for those casinos that are giving that treatment to their players but not all of them are giving that care. July 27, 2021, 03:02:35 PM
Its just there for sake but no gambling site is going to restrict people from playing in there unless they are cheating or involved with verbal abuse with someone or else they will be allowed to play as long as the user is willing to bet. In my opinion the users are responsible for their gambling activities because no gambling site is forcing is to keep gambling means we are doing it at our own risk.
There is no way an online casino can be held responsible for a person choice of action. People are different and weird, and you can't expect gamblers to be that rational. It would be an impossible task if not an unnecessary burden to have these gambling platforms keep their customers in check, at the end of the day, all they care about is their business and not the state of mind the other person on the other side of the screen feels.
July 27, 2021, 10:58:40 AM
I see this is not stated in the rules of playing gambling, even in the highest class of this gambling site I have never found it before. Because the reason in my opinion is simple, losses are the points contained in the agreement when someone first enters to determine gambling. Beyond that, whether you want to win or lose doesn't matter anymore. no matter how dangerous the impact, in fact no one can be held responsible.
July 27, 2021, 02:15:12 PM
So that means, before we gamble, we should be ready with whatever will happen in gambling to prepare ourselves not to feel sad when we lose. If we can win the games, that will be fine but do not try to play for more because we never know if we can still win in the next game or lose our money and win money. The casino only gives you pleasure in playing so many gambling games and the rest will be up to you and you will need responsibility to take care of yourself.
Does it mean that controlling the time will be very useful? because that way we can have limits in gambling. At least make a reminder of how long we have to gamble in a day or how long we have spent money based on a predetermined time.
I haven't heard of any such method for any gambling. Because, usually when we gamble, we don't really care about the time that has been passed, the most important thing is to catch up and get it back until it finally consumes all the remaining funds.
it is and also forgetting the money you do have and most likely you would really be wasting or losing it all in the end of the day.I dont see the point on why gambling companies are the ones who would
took the blame for harmful effects of gambling into its users.This is clearly been showing that this is a personal choice and decisions that they do play into a point that they are already risking out big
money until they do get addicted.I dont see the responsibility for these casinos to mind off for its players on not to get addicted.
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