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legendary
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To the Moon
Yeah this is no difference even if the market is bearish people will still play a lot in the casino, there is still an alternative if the price of bitcoin fluctuates greatly then they can switch to stablecoins... Casinos have offered many options for deposits, players will never decrease.

I can assume that many casino users have never dealt with Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies at all, providing their deposit at the casino with fiat. And they play in casinos for the only reason that it is a great pastime for them, and not a desire to increase their deposit in BTC.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1018
Not your keys, not your coins!
For a casino, there is no difference whether the market is bullish or bearish. In this case, Bitcoin is just a form of payment for your participation in the casino, and in this case it does not matter whether you are a BTC holder or a waiter in a cafe.
The market status affects centralized exchanges and gambling sites in trading and betting volume that will have impact on their business income and revenue.

When prices of cryptocurrencies fall 80% or 90% in bear market, it affects value of tradings and bettings too. It's not true to say centralized exchanges or gambling sites only care what they got in customer fees in cryptocurrencies but don't care about value of these things. They have to pay staffs with money in different forms and maybe not in cryptocurrencies.

With users, when they are in losses, it's hard for them to feel good and continue trading or gambling. It is capitulation phase in any bear market when almost everything looks to be very boring and negative.
legendary
Activity: 2898
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I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. PLUS, how could you say that it's a "perfect time" if the biggest crypto casinos like Stake already have a first-mover advantage in the market?


Perfect or not, it depends.


It depends on the market if it's a bull cycle or a bear cycle, it depends on if the users are optimistic or pessimistic, it would also depend on the strength of the other casinos that would become their competitors. During 2022, it was a bear cycle, everyone was pessimistic, plus Stake and Sportsbet are both very VERY strong competitors which I believe hold most of the market among crypto casinos. Although Shuffle is successful today, it was NOT a "perfect time" to launch and build a crypto casino during 2022.
sr. member
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HODL - BTC
I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. ..

For a casino, there is no difference whether the market is bullish or bearish. In this case, Bitcoin is just a form of payment for your participation in the casino, and in this case it does not matter whether you are a BTC holder or a waiter in a cafe.
Yeah this is no difference even if the market is bearish people will still play a lot in the casino, there is still an alternative if the price of bitcoin fluctuates greatly then they can switch to stablecoins... Casinos have offered many options for deposits, players will never decrease.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1655
To the Moon
I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. ..

For a casino, there is no difference whether the market is bullish or bearish. In this case, Bitcoin is just a form of payment for your participation in the casino, and in this case it does not matter whether you are a BTC holder or a waiter in a cafe.
legendary
Activity: 2688
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Well, I guess you're the one who has not read the terms & conditions. In part 3.4 it's clear your money is getting seized, and part 9.4 is also on their decision (thanks to other fellow member forum who mentioned the term & condition). My advice is quite simple, If they ignore you (mostly your case is rejected). Moving on, cause the one who makes these problems is your self. If you do not multi-account, then these will never came.

You can also create a thread or case topic in the most popular site reviews like "CASINO GURU" with a good experience from third parties service. They, will stick on the casino side cause you're admitted the case is breached by your self. Term & condition is basically like "law", if you breach it + admitted = dead ends for you.



If you said to me, does the casino have policy refund the initial deposit? Yes, in other casino BK8 they refunded the initial deposit but with some conditions. The player has no record of playing + not withdrawn any money he was depsoit (basically the money still 100% raw from the deposit). But, If you already play and withdraw (mostly in profit), initial deposit refund is no longer can be made, they will closed your account and seize any money in the account.
legendary
Activity: 2310
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. PLUS, how could you say that it's a "perfect time" if the biggest crypto casinos like Stake already have a first-mover advantage in the market?
Perfect or not, it depends.

Users perhaps don't want to hold bitcoin, Ethereum and altcoins in a bear market but only very smart and experienced people can exit and won't stuck in a bear market. In addition, some people willhold stable coin and have less risk of falls like non stable coins. Obviously with stable coins, there is another risk type, depeg.

During bear market that lasts about two years, people feel boring, disappointed with market and possibly switch to playing games, betting.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823
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They actually didn't enter "at the perfect time". Shuffle was founded during 2022 - the peak of the bear market, amd continued building through 2023.


I meant that there seems to be growing need for casinos in the market. So markets aren't saturated by good casinos yet. I could have said just in time instead of perfect time, as perfect time was probably when biggest net casinos were born. Also i wasn't talking just about crypto gambling, even though essential part of shuffle is how it integrated with the crypto scene, i don't see crypto bull or bear market as significant. Because if mooning mattered more than gambling them, people would just hold their coins and make money that way.

And it's not just crypto casinos that are rising, "traditional" fiat money casinos are on fire as well, but it's probably just a matter of time until most of them accept crypto as well.


I believe not. It's not the perfect time for ANY casino to start building as a "crypto-only casino" during a bear market - when everyone doesn't want to buy and hold Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins. PLUS, how could you say that it's a "perfect time" if the biggest crypto casinos like Stake already have a first-mover advantage in the market?

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sr. member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 363
Not gonna work.

You're admitted, it's multiple accounts no matter what's the reason. They will act based term & condition, not gonna process or response anymore for the case already clears especially the user already confirmed by them self opening multiple account.

Just moving on...... cause the chance are small or mostly 0%.

The terms say that if you create multiple accounts you will get your deposit only back and winnings get confiscated. Which is what should happen to me too. They have promised it in writing. Did you actually read the topic and see the screenshots?

It didn't say that you get your deposit back, it still under discretion of Shuffle management if they allow if they allow to make it happen. That's why it really better not to create multiple account or violate the casino terms since you will face this consequences.

Read this

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3.4. You are permitted to have only one Shuffle Account. If you attempt to open more than one Shuffle Account, any and all such accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed, and any sums credited to those accounts will be frozen and may be deducted. If you realise that you have opened more than one registered Shuffle Account you must notify us immediately by email at [email protected].

Also this.

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9.4. If your Shuffle Account has been closed, locked, blocked or excluded and you wish to recover funds held in it, please contact Shuffle customer support at [email protected]. We reserve the right to refuse to reopen or unlock your Shuffle Account or to allow withdrawals from it if we suspect that you are in breach of these Terms of Service or if we deem it necessary to do so for other reasons, and we may carry out additional KYC verification procedures and other checks for any withdrawal.

Read it here https://shuffle.com/info/terms

I guess the only thing you can do know is to wait for their response if they really promised to send back your funds. Creating unnecessary issue will not help your case and maybe it will irritate them and make them decide to make your case last longer. So try to move on and just follow up thru their support email since for now this is the best action to do especially you acknowledge that you violate their terms.

newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 2
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Not gonna work.

You're admitted, it's multiple accounts no matter what's the reason. They will act based term & condition, not gonna process or response anymore for the case already clears especially the user already confirmed by them self opening multiple account.

Just moving on...... cause the chance are small or mostly 0%.

The terms say that if you create multiple accounts you will get your deposit only back and winnings get confiscated. Which is what should happen to me too. They have promised it in writing. Did you actually read the topic and see the screenshots?
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1262
-snip-
Not gonna work.

You're admitted, it's multiple accounts no matter what's the reason. They will act based term & condition, not gonna process or response anymore for the case already clears especially the user already confirmed by them self opening multiple account.

Just moving on...... cause the chance are small or mostly 0%.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 2
hello shuffle team,

can someone of your team please check this topic and let me know what you still need from me? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/shuffle-account-situation-plus-apology-5508201
this situation should be coming to an end soon I hope since it is already going on for 8 months.

I already sent a PM to ndumm but since he was last online 31 August it seems unlikely he will read it soon. If someone who has contact with Shuffle team could give a staff member a nudge I would appreciate it.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 433
HODL - BTC
They actually didn't enter "at the perfect time". Shuffle was founded during 2022 - the peak of the bear market, amd continued building through 2023.
Even though Shuffle was founded when the market was sluggish, there was no sluggishness in gambling, that's when gambling enthusiasts grew and casinos grew until now. Shuffle is showing tremendous growth.

It all started during the pandemic when online gambling casinos became more and more popular because most of the gamblers can't go out and gamble to a physical casino. Overtime, more and more online casinos are starting to popping up and one of them is Shuffle which is now making some noise in the online casino industry. Just looking at the 2 billion dollars that has been wagered is a sign that the website is becoming more and more popular and at some point, it will reach the levels of other popular online gambling casinos out there.
With billions of dollars at wagered in the casino... Shuffle is proving its rapid development. Until now the casino hasn't had any brand partnerships, like we've seen in other casinos, but I'm sure Shuffle can reach that level in the future and who knows they'll sponsor football like other casinos, so far Shuffle casino is big and they have a big volume of bets every month.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 1
Unfortunately I did not gamble much since last year and my rank at Shuffle is still silver 1. ~
Pre monthly bonus was reload for 3 days and the same as yours, 2 types ($0.5 and $0.25)
Oh! I thought you are at a higher rank at Shuffle. Your pre-monthly bonus wasn't bad as a silver rank user. Don't we have any higher ranked user at Shuffle from Bitcointalk gambling community?

There must be some but maybe they do not want to reveal themselves because of privacy reason, I hope to be higher rank next year because I have many things to care in real life.
Of course I wont force myself to wager in order to chase higher rank but I will just play as what I usually do, so maybe it will take few years for me to be higher rank.  Grin
The same as my account at other casino which take 7 years to wager $5m because my average is less than $1 per bet/spin.





i also spin under 1$, but the one time i tried 2.4$ on bigger bass bonanza paid 800x that was good time
i am already almost gold at shuffle and i signed up 1 month ago this is cooked
but i am down over 1k
legendary
Activity: 3500
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Unfortunately I did not gamble much since last year and my rank at Shuffle is still silver 1. ~
Pre monthly bonus was reload for 3 days and the same as yours, 2 types ($0.5 and $0.25)
Oh! I thought you are at a higher rank at Shuffle. Your pre-monthly bonus wasn't bad as a silver rank user. Don't we have any higher ranked user at Shuffle from Bitcointalk gambling community?

There must be some but maybe they do not want to reveal themselves because of privacy reason, I hope to be higher rank next year because I have many things to care in real life.
Of course I wont force myself to wager in order to chase higher rank but I will just play as what I usually do, so maybe it will take few years for me to be higher rank.  Grin
The same as my account at other casino which take 7 years to wager $5m because my average is less than $1 per bet/spin.



legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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They actually didn't enter "at the perfect time". Shuffle was founded during 2022 - the peak of the bear market, amd continued building through 2023.
I meant that there seems to be growing need for casinos in the market. So markets aren't saturated by good casinos yet. I could have said just in time instead of perfect time, as perfect time was probably when biggest net casinos were born. Also i wasn't talking just about crypto gambling, even though essential part of shuffle is how it integrated with the crypto scene, i don't see crypto bull or bear market as significant. Because if mooning mattered more than gambling them, people would just hold their coins and make money that way.

And it's not just crypto casinos that are rising, "traditional" fiat money casinos are on fire as well, but it's probably just a matter of time until most of them accept crypto as well.
legendary
Activity: 2576
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Little_Mouse Campaign Management | OrangeFren.com
Casino industry has grown so much, that there are definitely room for newcomers that are doing it right.
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Shuffle entered this market at the perfect time, and the fact that they are anticipating and preparing the upcoming regulations rather than trying to evade them tells me that they are serious. And rewarding community goes perfect with growth plans, as we can see from the chart.
With the rise of online casinos, I would agree to this one.

It all started during the pandemic when online gambling casinos became more and more popular because most of the gamblers can't go out and gamble to a physical casino. Overtime, more and more online casinos are starting to popping up and one of them is Shuffle which is now making some noise in the online casino industry. Just looking at the 2 billion dollars that has been wagered is a sign that the website is becoming more and more popular and at some point, it will reach the levels of other popular online gambling casinos out there.

I would really say that rewarding their gamblers is a perfect way to retain them and continue play on their website hence, I hope that other gambling casinos out there will do the same.
legendary
Activity: 1946
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In Search of Incredible
They don't even email the monthly bonus for Bronze Ranks. So this is something strange or new happening to me on Shuffle.com.
Shuffle doesn't give monthly bonus to the bronze VIP users. Have you ever claimed monthly bonus on your account at Shuffle?

Unfortunately I did not gamble much since last year and my rank at Shuffle is still silver 1. ~
Pre monthly bonus was reload for 3 days and the same as yours, 2 types ($0.5 and $0.25)
Oh! I thought you are at a higher rank at Shuffle. Your pre-monthly bonus wasn't bad as a silver rank user. Don't we have any higher ranked user at Shuffle from Bitcointalk gambling community?
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1083
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Really happy with shuffle reward system
wagered over 40k last month and lost around 1.3K
from total bonuses last month I got 200$(that's including telegram codes) back and monthly was 114$, i expected 40-50$
Very good experience

Thank you shuffle team.

Well, let me say that shuffle is one hell of a good casino at the moment, I've personally have been reading alot of such good reviews of the casino across forums and social media platforms, and I think it's really feels good when I read people genuinely post good reviews about a platform they are involved in, it encourages not just the management of such platform to put more effort in providing even much more better services, but also encourages on lookers/watchers to register on such platform and be part of those sharing good testimonies.

Though I have an account on shuffle, I have never played there for once, but coming here and reading such reviews, as well as those I read about the casino on other places, encourages me to want to make that deposit and try the casino, this I hope to do pretty soon, and maybe who knows, I get to be part of their coming airdrop as well, even though partaking of the airdrop is not really a priority for me though.
legendary
Activity: 2898
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Shuffle - Every month it grows... wagering up to 2 billion dollars. Shocked

But practically speaking, how much monthly wagered volume are the largest online casinos in promoted in BitcoinTalk making every month?

I'm not asking to compare and make presumptions on which one is "better", merely curious about Shuffle's current trajectory.
There are no clear statistics on the volume of wagered at online casinos promoted on Bitcointalk but we see Shuffle's monthly updates continue to increase.

Yeah Shuffle's trajectory is pretty good right now, I'm not even going to compare it we're just looking at the data provided by @noah.


Casino industry has grown so much, that there are definitely room for newcomers that are doing it right.

I don't know how much of this volume was from people who are trying to grind their vip stats and more $shfl airdrop,


Climbing the VIP rankings and the SHFL airdrop definitely have SOME part of it, but a majority part of it? Probably not, because SHFL's price is currently very low, it's less costly to buy it than gamble and be rewarded with it.

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But in some sort of comparison, stake made $2.6 billion in revenue in 2022, so one can only wonder what the gambling volume was for that. And everything has grown like a rocket from since. And that's just a fracton when it comes to whole world's casino industry revenue, which has been growing like there wouldn't be an end to it.


That's revenue, indicating that its total volume wagered during that time is MORE than $2.6 Billion. 👀

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Shuffle entered this market at the perfect time, and the fact that they are anticipating and preparing the upcoming regulations rather than trying to evade them tells me that they are serious. And rewarding community goes perfect with growth plans, as we can see from the chart.


They actually didn't enter "at the perfect time". Shuffle was founded during 2022 - the peak of the bear market, amd continued building through 2023.
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