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Quote from: Wiwo on November 03, 2023, 03:04:47 PM

We all are anticipating the drop of the shuffle token airdrop because I want to be among the early adopters of this project. After all, the price of the token is still at a low level at the point of the pre-sale, and also we may be having some other bonuses and special treatment in the casino if we use the token to gamble in the casino, this is why and the reasons most of us still expect something good from the new casinos that are developing their own native tokens.
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I am not sure what you are talking about. Token has no price yet, better yet it doesn't even exist yet, nor it has any kind of pre-sale, ico or transparent tokenomics.
So what do you mean price is low?

And i can't see anything indicating that we would be getting special treatment just by gambling with $shfl on the casino. Gambling with it will most likely be like gambling with any token, although i am not sure if you can use all the games with it, or sports betting. Bonuses etc will most likely come by holding it. Or locking / staking it. We just don't know.

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Quote from: Agbe on November 04, 2023, 11:45:48 AM

As for now they can't pay with the token fully but can split it if they want it because the token is not yet listed in any exchange and you should also know that many participants withdraw funds every week to settle one thing or the other. So if they pay with the token it will affect many. And what I will advise. Yes it is good for the participants to use the shuffle token therefore Shuffle should ask the participants to create shuffle wallet and add it to the pay list and let them (shuffle) should pay their token there for the participants test run it. And that will help to circle the token very fast. Let the BTC pay be there and let them add their token.

What participants are you talking about to be paid with shuffle tokens?

Because I didn't mentioned anything like makingsuse of the casino token to make payments, and if you are talking about payment as in withdrawal from the site, then it is left for the gambler to select the casino token as their preferred choice and he may have a valid reason to do so.

But then the casino has no right to force the take on anyone most especially now that the token is not traded anywhere, I also believe that this token development still has a long way to go and the team need to invest more time and finances to develop and market the token to the world if it a project they really want to grow.

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They can reward only partial campaign payments as an optional payment method for participants. As signature campaign promoter of Shuffle, I will be happy to hold this token for future purposes since I have faith that token will boom in the future.

I think there is no problem if they pay for tokens, after all there are many examples of casino token projects that have been successful and casinos have become big enough to create high value tokens. Even though there are also some casino tokens that have gone bankrupt, despite all that there is no harm in holding these tokens as long as you are sure that this casino project will continue and become big in the future, as long as you don't buy it. and you get that from your job as a promoter of Shuffle's signature campaign. no one knows the future of this casino.

I tried playing on this site a while ago and haven't visited it, but I just found out they have their own token or I missed it in this thread and don't follow their updates, maybe I'll find out more about their tokens on their site, who know could be an additional reference for me to have a little. Grin

Yes being able to have continuous development and progress, their token will continue to have value and possibly increase in it value as per time and in line with the development of the projects, but if the team become negligent of their responsibility and focuses more on the revenue or taken profits at all cost, this will definitely affect the token on the long run.

So we have to accept with the fact that the success of any project lies with the team and as sensitive as casino projects are, most of them have failed to reach success in token development because of a lack of basic technical knowledge and lack of consistency.

As for now they can't pay with the token fully but can split it if they want it because the token is not yet listed in any exchange and you should also know that many participants withdraw funds every week to settle one thing or the other. So if they pay with the token it will affect many. And what I will advise. Yes it is good for the participants to use the shuffle token therefore Shuffle should ask the participants to create shuffle wallet and add it to the pay list and let them (shuffle) should pay their token there for the participants test run it. And that will help to circle the token very fast. Let the BTC pay be there and let them add their token.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 04, 2023, 09:36:18 AM

Quote from: Wapfika on November 04, 2023, 09:21:49 AM

They can reward only partial campaign payments as an optional payment method for participants. As signature campaign promoter of Shuffle, I will be happy to hold this token for future purposes since I have faith that token will boom in the future.

I think there is no problem if they pay for tokens, after all there are many examples of casino token projects that have been successful and casinos have become big enough to create high value tokens. Even though there are also some casino tokens that have gone bankrupt, despite all that there is no harm in holding these tokens as long as you are sure that this casino project will continue and become big in the future, as long as you don't buy it. and you get that from your job as a promoter of Shuffle's signature campaign. no one knows the future of this casino.

I tried playing on this site a while ago and haven't visited it, but I just found out they have their own token or I missed it in this thread and don't follow their updates, maybe I'll find out more about their tokens on their site, who know could be an additional reference for me to have a little. Grin

Yes being able to have continuous development and progress, their token will continue to have value and possibly increase in it value as per time and in line with the development of the projects, but if the team become negligent of their responsibility and focuses more on the revenue or taken profits at all cost, this will definitely affect the token on the long run.

So we have to accept with the fact that the success of any project lies with the team and as sensitive as casino projects are, most of them have failed to reach success in token development because of a lack of basic technical knowledge and lack of consistency.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 04, 2023, 04:50:08 AM

My experience is just as you have said it, my problem with casino tokens is that, they mostly lack basic utilities that is needed to get them up on price, and even as good as holding them gives the holder some special bonuses from the casino that owns the token, casino tokens are still not ideal for long term hodling, as their prices often fall to the group never to come up again, especially when they are done listing the token on as many exchanges as they have planned for and can afford the listing fees.

But then, let's wait and see what this casino have in the pipeline, probably they must have done their research on other casino tokens and how they are performing so badly in the market, and have put plans in place to make sure theirs doesn't end up like the like of owl.games token(OWL) and BFG from BetFury.

The difference of this upcoming token to the typical casino token is that this casino token is a the form of airdrop not purchased by investors during IDO. I believe casino tokens will serve as reward token only for all the players who will play like rakeback rewards.

This way of token distribution will not be subjected to a lot of demand for utility since it will be given for free to all the loyal players in the casino. I believe it’s like JET tokens of coins.game which you can just convert it to any crypto currency once you get it from their bonuses.

So what you are telling me now is that, this token won't be listed on any exchange, and that it can't be traded anywhere?

That those who will be lucky enough to get the tokens through the coming airdrop won't be able to sell it directly to other people, but can only convert it to other crypto currency inside the casino if they want?

And that people can not be able to buy the tokens from anywhere, but can only earn it for free through the casino based on their gambling activities on the casino?

Well, if the answer to all the questions I asked be yes, then it's really a good idea. But unfortunately, I don't think the answer is yes,, but let's just watch and see.

I didn’t said that, You are the only one make assumption with that feature probably due to my lack of further explanation to my comment. Cheesy

, What I just want to emphasize here that this token will be different to the typical casino token like BFG and OWL because they have different approach of distribution. Meaning the main purpose of this token will be for rewarding players not the typical feature of Staking feature by other casino token.

There’s a possibility that the token will be listed on DEX but I’m just concerned to the liquidity pool of the token since there’s no investors money to be use on the LP which typically the money from IDO.

It will be great if Shuffle will provide initial liquidity of this token on DEX from their own pocket.

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Quote from: Wapfika on November 04, 2023, 09:21:49 AM

They can reward only partial campaign payments as an optional payment method for participants. As signature campaign promoter of Shuffle, I will be happy to hold this token for future purposes since I have faith that token will boom in the future.

I think there is no problem if they pay for tokens, after all there are many examples of casino token projects that have been successful and casinos have become big enough to create high value tokens. Even though there are also some casino tokens that have gone bankrupt, despite all that there is no harm in holding these tokens as long as you are sure that this casino project will continue and become big in the future, as long as you don't buy it. and you get that from your job as a promoter of Shuffle's signature campaign. no one knows the future of this casino.

I tried playing on this site a while ago and haven't visited it, but I just found out they have their own token or I missed it in this thread and don't follow their updates, maybe I'll find out more about their tokens on their site, who know could be an additional reference for me to have a little. Grin

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Quote from: Taskford on November 01, 2023, 05:49:42 PM

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Quote from: xLays on November 01, 2023, 03:28:19 AM

Yeah I read it yesterday. It's like for you able to participate and claim a $SHFL Token Airdrop you need to be loyal and bet more on Shuffle.com . Hopefully they also run an airdrop or bounty campaign exclusively here in BitcoinTalk like signature campaign that will be paying $SHFL Tokens.

I really like the idea of bounty campaigns paid in $SHFL tokens to have a share with token pool without wagering much since high roller in the casino will surely dominate the token allocation. I will be happy to be paid in 50/50 tokens & Bitcoin in our signature campaign.

Maybe our signature code needs a little bit of update to promote this retroactive airdrop so that many players will be interested to play in the casino.

Well that's great introduction but I wonder if it would really be helpful to them if their campaign participants could receive a $SHFL token since maybe this could be the reason for a dumps since not all but mostly they provably the one decide to dump the token they earn so better to retain it to Btc for price protection of their token.

Its already good that those tokens will be given to their gamblers or whales since this could really attract more players to come on their casino due to that benefits they can get from them.

Also since they plan that airdrop as you said then its really good if they consider your suggestion since this could help increase the awareness that there's something like that happen in their casino.

Dumping of token is inevitable regardless if the campaign participants received it or players who wager in the casino since they will consider this as free money once they receive it. The tendency of selling the tokens once received is very high since this is common for an airdrop token.

They can reward only partial campaign payments as an optional payment method for participants. As signature campaign promoter of Shuffle, I will be happy to hold this token for future purposes since I have faith that token will boom in the future.

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Quote from: Beparanf on November 04, 2023, 05:29:55 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 04, 2023, 04:50:08 AM

My experience is just as you have said it, my problem with casino tokens is that, they mostly lack basic utilities that is needed to get them up on price, and even as good as holding them gives the holder some special bonuses from the casino that owns the token, casino tokens are still not ideal for long term hodling, as their prices often fall to the group never to come up again, especially when they are done listing the token on as many exchanges as they have planned for and can afford the listing fees.

But then, let's wait and see what this casino have in the pipeline, probably they must have done their research on other casino tokens and how they are performing so badly in the market, and have put plans in place to make sure theirs doesn't end up like the like of owl.games token(OWL) and BFG from BetFury.

The difference of this upcoming token to the typical casino token is that this casino token is a the form of airdrop not purchased by investors during IDO. I believe casino tokens will serve as reward token only for all the players who will play like rakeback rewards.

This way of token distribution will not be subjected to a lot of demand for utility since it will be given for free to all the loyal players in the casino. I believe it’s like JET tokens of coins.game which you can just convert it to any crypto currency once you get it from their bonuses.

So what you are telling me now is that, this token won't be listed on any exchange, and that it can't be traded anywhere?

That those who will be lucky enough to get the tokens through the coming airdrop won't be able to sell it directly to other people, but can only convert it to other crypto currency inside the casino if they want?

And that people can not be able to buy the tokens from anywhere, but can only earn it for free through the casino based on their gambling activities on the casino?

Well, if the answer to all the questions I asked be yes, then it's really a good idea. But unfortunately, I don't think the answer is yes,, but let's just watch and see.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 04, 2023, 04:50:08 AM

My experience is just as you have said it, my problem with casino tokens is that, they mostly lack basic utilities that is needed to get them up on price, and even as good as holding them gives the holder some special bonuses from the casino that owns the token, casino tokens are still not ideal for long term hodling, as their prices often fall to the group never to come up again, especially when they are done listing the token on as many exchanges as they have planned for and can afford the listing fees.

But then, let's wait and see what this casino have in the pipeline, probably they must have done their research on other casino tokens and how they are performing so badly in the market, and have put plans in place to make sure theirs doesn't end up like the like of owl.games token(OWL) and BFG from BetFury.

The difference of this upcoming token to the typical casino token is that this casino token is a the form of airdrop not purchased by investors during IDO. I believe casino tokens will serve as reward token only for all the players who will play like rakeback rewards.

This way of token distribution will not be subjected to a lot of demand for utility since it will be given for free to all the loyal players in the casino. I believe it’s like JET tokens of coins.game which you can just convert it to any crypto currency once you get it from their bonuses.

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 03, 2023, 03:04:47 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on November 01, 2023, 05:42:06 PM

Quote from: BABY SHOES on October 30, 2023, 01:43:57 PM

Source: https://twitter.com/shufflecom/status/1718986923807760708

The creation of tokens and the planned airdrop is a good development to attract players especially whales into the platform. I think that the airdrop is carefully designed so that those who patronage the casino can have the opportunity to receive an airdrop not just a random airdrop thing that is being enjoyed by bots on social media platforms.

Good luck shuffle team on this endeavor I hope your token airdrop will get its projected results. I think I need to start playing to get a small piece of that token airdrop.

We all are anticipating the drop of the shuffle token airdrop because I want to be among the early adopters of this project. After all, the price of the token is still at a low level at the point of the pre-sale, and also we may be having some other bonuses and special treatment in the casino if we use the token to gamble in the casino, this is why and the reasons most of us still expect something good from the new casinos that are developing their own native tokens.

We have experienced a lot of losses due to sudden crashes in some of the casino tokens that were previously developed and at some point, the failure to recover after the crash made it harder for investors to trust any other casino tokens unless those that are used as the utility token on the casino.

My experience is just as you have said it, my problem with casino tokens is that, they mostly lack basic utilities that is needed to get them up on price, and even as good as holding them gives the holder some special bonuses from the casino that owns the token, casino tokens are still not ideal for long term hodling, as their prices often fall to the group never to come up again, especially when they are done listing the token on as many exchanges as they have planned for and can afford the listing fees.

But then, let's wait and see what this casino have in the pipeline, probably they must have done their research on other casino tokens and how they are performing so badly in the market, and have put plans in place to make sure theirs doesn't end up like the like of owl.games token(OWL) and BFG from BetFury.

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Quote from: BABY SHOES on November 01, 2023, 09:38:32 AM

Quote from: xLays on November 01, 2023, 03:28:19 AM

Yeah I read it yesterday. It's like for you able to participate and claim a $SHFL Token Airdrop you need to be loyal and bet more on Shuffle.com . Hopefully they also run an airdrop or bounty campaign exclusively here in BitcoinTalk like signature campaign that will be paying $SHFL Tokens.

Indeed, when we want to get an airdrop, we have to bet more in this casino to get a bigger chance to claim $SHL tokens.
It's very rare when casinos launch tokens and do campaigns here or elsewhere, maybe it's exclusive to the Shuffle community who bet there, so it's partly just for them as bettors.

We'll never know from them if they're promoting more broadly not just for betting, but I do know that on average when a casino tokens it's exclusively for betting users.

Is there any specific information about the calculation of the airdrop? As I know the airdrop will be based on wager or rank, will be something like "1 token per 1000usd wager" and the higher the rank will give more token for the same wager, lets say "5 token per 1000usd wager"? I played here but not much, maybe I wagered few thousands dollar only so far as I'm still in Bronze rank.

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 03, 2023, 03:04:47 PM

We all are anticipating the drop of the shuffle token airdrop because I want to be among the early adopters of this project. After all, the price of the token is still at a low level at the point of the pre-sale, and also we may be having some other bonuses and special treatment in the casino if we use the token to gamble in the casino, this is why and the reasons most of us still expect something good from the new casinos that are developing their own native tokens.

A wise and clever distribution for airdrop will not dumping all airdrop tokens at one time of distribution. I am very sure most of airdrop token receivers will not have any patience to hold airdrop token like a few days or weeks. They will dump it on the market nearly instantly after receiving from the team distribution. So, a very slow, gradual token distribution for airdrop token will help to minimize effects from airdrop hunters' selling pressure.

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We have experienced a lot of losses due to sudden crashes in some of the casino tokens that were previously developed and at some point, the failure to recover after the crash made it harder for investors to trust any other casino tokens unless those that are used as the utility token on the casino.

Price of a token on market depends on many things. Most important, depends on the token value that is made up of its use cases and utility. Less important, depends on general trend of cryptocurrency market. If a token has good use cases and utility, good tokenomics design (not inflationary too much or best, deflationary), its price on market will be good. Of course it's a free market and price will be up and down but by having good value, market price will be good, upward in long term.

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Quote from: serjent05 on November 01, 2023, 05:42:06 PM

Quote from: BABY SHOES on October 30, 2023, 01:43:57 PM

Source: https://twitter.com/shufflecom/status/1718986923807760708

The creation of tokens and the planned airdrop is a good development to attract players especially whales into the platform. I think that the airdrop is carefully designed so that those who patronage the casino can have the opportunity to receive an airdrop not just a random airdrop thing that is being enjoyed by bots on social media platforms.

Good luck shuffle team on this endeavor I hope your token airdrop will get its projected results. I think I need to start playing to get a small piece of that token airdrop.

We all are anticipating the drop of the shuffle token airdrop because I want to be among the early adopters of this project. After all, the price of the token is still at a low level at the point of the pre-sale, and also we may be having some other bonuses and special treatment in the casino if we use the token to gamble in the casino, this is why and the reasons most of us still expect something good from the new casinos that are developing their own native tokens.

We have experienced a lot of losses due to sudden crashes in some of the casino tokens that were previously developed and at some point, the failure to recover after the crash made it harder for investors to trust any other casino tokens unless those that are used as the utility token on the casino.

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Quote from: xLays on November 01, 2023, 03:28:19 AM

Yeah I read it yesterday. It's like for you able to participate and claim a $SHFL Token Airdrop you need to be loyal and bet more on Shuffle.com . Hopefully they also run an airdrop or bounty campaign exclusively here in BitcoinTalk like signature campaign that will be paying $SHFL Tokens.

I really like the idea of bounty campaigns paid in $SHFL tokens to have a share with token pool without wagering much since high roller in the casino will surely dominate the token allocation. I will be happy to be paid in 50/50 tokens & Bitcoin in our signature campaign.

Maybe our signature code needs a little bit of update to promote this retroactive airdrop so that many players will be interested to play in the casino.

Well that's great introduction but I wonder if it would really be helpful to them if their campaign participants could receive a $SHFL token since maybe this could be the reason for a dumps since not all but mostly they provably the one decide to dump the token they earn so better to retain it to Btc for price protection of their token.

Its already good that those tokens will be given to their gamblers or whales since this could really attract more players to come on their casino due to that benefits they can get from them.

Also since they plan that airdrop as you said then its really good if they consider your suggestion since this could help increase the awareness that there's something like that happen in their casino.

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Quote from: BABY SHOES on October 30, 2023, 01:43:57 PM

Source: https://twitter.com/shufflecom/status/1718986923807760708

The creation of tokens and the planned airdrop is a good development to attract players especially whales into the platform. I think that the airdrop is carefully designed so that those who patronage the casino can have the opportunity to receive an airdrop not just a random airdrop thing that is being enjoyed by bots on social media platforms.

Good luck shuffle team on this endeavor I hope your token airdrop will get its projected results. I think I need to start playing in order to get a small piece of that token airdrop.

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I wish the shuffle team all the luck they can get in their development, even though, I am not a fan of casino tokens due to past experiences, but then with recent events, and some reputable casinos also joining the market, this makes me want to take a second look at casinos tokens most especially those new ones that are still at their developmental level, that way we can buy them low and wait to take a position when the market start picking.

Because the best approach to investing in such tokens is by following up from the beginning and being among the early investors.

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Quote from: BABY SHOES on October 30, 2023, 01:43:57 PM

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Source: https://twitter.com/shufflecom/status/1718986923807760708

Finally some more information about it. I just quitted twitter so i totally missed this, and wish that they would just update announcements in here real time as well.
Use cases seem realistic enough and i quite like for the token being deflationary, but there's still a lot we don't know and tokenomics are raising questions to me. I hope it's well thought trough.

Quote from: xLays on November 01, 2023, 03:28:19 AM

Yeah I read it yesterday. It's like for you able to participate and claim a $SHFL Token Airdrop you need to be loyal and bet more on Shuffle.com . Hopefully they also run an airdrop or bounty campaign exclusively here in BitcoinTalk like signature campaign that will be paying $SHFL Tokens.

I suppose that they would be more then happy to pay you with tokens as those don't cost them anything (if they have earmarket tokens for bounty campaigns).
But would you really rather be paid with tokens that might not have value at all, or with bitcoin as you currently are been paid with?

You could just save the bitcoin, and buy the tokens with them, or gamble those bitcoins to get airdrop. Changes are that you most likely end up getting more tokens.

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Quote from: xLays on November 01, 2023, 03:28:19 AM

Yeah I read it yesterday. It's like for you able to participate and claim a $SHFL Token Airdrop you need to be loyal and bet more on Shuffle.com . Hopefully they also run an airdrop or bounty campaign exclusively here in BitcoinTalk like signature campaign that will be paying $SHFL Tokens.

Indeed, when we want to get an airdrop, we have to bet more in this casino to get a bigger chance to claim $SHL tokens.
It's very rare when casinos launch tokens and do campaigns here or elsewhere, maybe it's exclusive to the Shuffle community who bet there, so it's partly just for them as bettors.

We'll never know from them if they're promoting more broadly not just for betting, but I do know that on average when a casino tokens it's exclusively for betting users.

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Quote from: xLays on November 01, 2023, 03:28:19 AM

Yeah I read it yesterday. It's like for you able to participate and claim a $SHFL Token Airdrop you need to be loyal and bet more on Shuffle.com . Hopefully they also run an airdrop or bounty campaign exclusively here in BitcoinTalk like signature campaign that will be paying $SHFL Tokens.

I really like the idea of bounty campaigns paid in $SHFL tokens to have a share with token pool without wagering much since high roller in the casino will surely dominate the token allocation. I will be happy to be paid in 50/50 tokens & Bitcoin in our signature campaign.

Maybe our signature code needs a little bit of update to promote this retroactive airdrop so that many players will be interested to play in the casino.

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Quote from: BABY SHOES on October 30, 2023, 01:43:57 PM

Quote from: xLays on October 30, 2023, 01:00:29 AM

I read @NoahDummett tweet last October 22 where he mentioned that he would provide more details last week about the $SHFL token, but he still hasn't provided them.

I'm also patiently waiting for the details about how to get eligible for Shuffle Airdrop. I'm just being excited about that.

Here comes the announcement from X.com - @shufflecom about the details of the $SHFL token airdrop.

Here are the details of airdrop 1,2,3

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Retroactive campaign based on Shuffle.com wager volumes 12 months since inception.
Proactive campaign based on wager volumes and games played.
Proactive campaign based on VIP levels

9.5% of the 1B $SHFL supply will be distributed, and as revealed in the X.com announcement $SHFL will arrive at the beginning of the year.

The snapshot hasn't been taken yet, meaning we still have a chance to participate in this airdrop depending on our volume during our 12 months at Shuffle.com casino.

Source: https://twitter.com/shufflecom/status/1718986923807760708

Yeah I read it yesterday. It's like for you able to participate and claim a $SHFL Token Airdrop you need to be loyal and bet more on Shuffle.com . Hopefully they also run an airdrop or bounty campaign exclusively here in BitcoinTalk like signature campaign that will be paying $SHFL Tokens.

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