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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 12, 2017, 07:14:28 PM

the red foam protects mobo from static I like this idea as my winter humidity drops under 30%

isnt that red foam anti static? if it is then its mildly conductive, which gives it its anti static properties. not really recommended to be in contact with actively running electronics, although lots of people have done it.

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Love the video Phil - My bedroom looks like your garage - not in terms of rigs just in terms of I don't have a bedroom, it's more like an office/warehouse lol.

I couldn't help it, I haven't moved into the new warehouse yet but decided to build one of the 1070 TI's - these things I am in love with - running it in my bedroom as all panels in the garage are fully loaded.

ASUS Prime z270-A
G4400
4gb
EVGA 1600w P2 Overkill but I have a few of them laying around so why not.

Doing about 4.4 Sol/W

6th Card I installed on one of my 5 card 1080 TI's already, didn't feel like detaching it.

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Quote from: martyroz on December 12, 2017, 04:35:50 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 11, 2017, 11:19:16 AM

Quote from: martyroz on December 11, 2017, 09:12:22 AM

Well I just spend 5 hours trying to get 4 * Vega 64 working on a Gigabyte Z170-HD3...

instead of busting your ass to get 4 on 1 board.

buy the same board it is pretty cheap and do 3 on it...

After a reboot this morning, it magically found all 4 cards! 8,200 h/s now!

Phil can you comment;

I need to fix up my gaming PC. The story goes that I bought a 3*PCIE16x motherboard (ASUS Prime 270-AR) to make it a trio rig with SLI capability. So I plugged in 2 * EVGA 1080ti SC plus a GTX 1070 full-length. Sure enough, the middle card runs HOT (80°C). To be fair - I always planned on using a mini, I just haven't bought one yet.

So after playing games with SLI, it turns out that these days it pretty much sucks. So I'm happy to run a rig with no SLI capability. Here's what I will do;

* Move all cards to my new Nvidia rig (will join a 1070ti*2)
* Bring in an ASUS Strix 1080ti for main GPU slot to play games
* Buy two well-suited cards to mine with 24/7

Is it critical that the main GPU (slot #0) be a 'blower' too? I have room in the new Nvidia rig to house everything left over while buying 3 new GPU for the gaming rig.
What's a good blower GPU for slot #1?
What's a good mini/blower GPU for slot #2?

Basically, what's the best cherry-picked set-up today for a trio mining rig off 850W PSU?

two blowers and a mini if in a case.

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-5390-KR

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1070-ITX-AERO/dp/B06X1GZB5F/ref=sr_1_1?

and here is the link to the you tube video

https://youtu.be/JBhFJKDE-ps

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Quote from: dragonmike on December 12, 2017, 05:58:44 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 12, 2017, 02:51:17 PM

Quote from: citronick on December 12, 2017, 01:17:02 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 12, 2017, 12:50:57 PM

Inspired by crazydane I built this last night
uses a 21 by 21 inch plywood board.
the red foam from the mobo packing to lift board and prevent static discharges
some stainless steel brackets to hold the corsair hx1200i psu
two scythe fans for cooling the three center cards

I have asus 1080ti ----msi 1070ti ----evga 1070ti --- msi 1070 ti ------------- waiting on a msi 1080 ti
...

solid numbers for the three cards
...

Phil - can you show how the fans are secured on the wooden rail? Thanks

This is a very nice build about 22 by 21 inches
can do 5 cards maybe more.

it is a 1080ti --big space -- 1070ti-1070-1070ti---big space--- 1080ti (waiting for this part)

Fans attached

a long wire tie in the back of the 2 fans then up and over the center gpu

look in the center gpu the one in between the 2 msi that reads geforce.

what you don't see is the back plate.

I have a lot of 2 fan back plates
this is not what I have on the photo but it will work

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010FAW5KM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?

Phil, may I ask why you're putting these fans there? Surely you don't need them to extract more air out of the GPUs, they should be pretty good at blowing hot air out?
EDIT: oh, are those three cards maybe not blower style

They are blower style but I find that a little help does not hurt. What the fans do is pull air out of the spaces in between the three cards. It keeps the gpu fans at a lower setting and they are a bit harder to changeout.

I made a video will post it on YouTube soon.

final build

three center cards use red 8 pin pcie cables

pdu pulls 19-20 amps the box fan helps cool things down and that is an old avalon 6 heat sink

the red foam protects mobo from static I like this idea as my winter humidity drops under 30%

red fans look better and move 220 cfm the other fans move 270 cfm

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 12, 2017, 02:51:17 PM

Quote from: citronick on December 12, 2017, 01:17:02 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 12, 2017, 12:50:57 PM

Inspired by crazydane I built this last night
uses a 21 by 21 inch plywood board.
the red foam from the mobo packing to lift board and prevent static discharges
some stainless steel brackets to hold the corsair hx1200i psu
two scythe fans for cooling the three center cards

I have asus 1080ti ----msi 1070ti ----evga 1070ti --- msi 1070 ti ------------- waiting on a msi 1080 ti
...

solid numbers for the three cards
...

Phil - can you show how the fans are secured on the wooden rail? Thanks

This is a very nice build about 22 by 21 inches
can do 5 cards maybe more.

it is a 1080ti --big space -- 1070ti-1070-1070ti---big space--- 1080ti (waiting for this part)

Fans attached

a long wire tie in the back of the 2 fans then up and over the center gpu

look in the center gpu the one in between the 2 msi that reads geforce.

what you don't see is the back plate.

I have a lot of 2 fan back plates
this is not what I have on the photo but it will work

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010FAW5KM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?

Phil, may I ask why you're putting these fans there? Surely you don't need them to extract more air out of the GPUs, they should be pretty good at blowing hot air out?
EDIT: oh, are those three cards maybe not blower style

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Quote from: Marvell2 on December 12, 2017, 10:21:42 AM

Quote from: jimmykl on December 12, 2017, 09:45:10 AM

Quote from: KaydenC on December 12, 2017, 09:21:38 AM

Quote from: citronick on December 12, 2017, 09:16:25 AM

Quote from: KaydenC on December 12, 2017, 09:01:00 AM

Is there anyway to set MSI AB profiles using the command line? I browsed some forum posts but found no concrete methods.

Also is there an easy way to switch coins for dozens of rigs at once?

One idea is to have rigs auto reboot every 12hrs and run a bat file on start in dropbox. Whenever I want to switch, I just run a python script to change contents of all the bat files and they will mine new coin automatically. But it doesn't change my core and mem clocks. It also isn't instantaneous.

smOS ?.

Hmm, might have to give this a try. I never used it before, I was windows all the way.

I use ethmonitoring.com with windows. It installs the miners, lets you switch profiles which control coin/pool (and set an afterburner profile), tracks pool profits, does alerts for hashrate per card or total, temperature, offline etc. and costs the same as smos. Has mobile apps too. Excuse the ad but I find it super useful. Though it doesn't give you the stability of linux and ability to run off a usb stick.

Ill look into this, do you have to install it on every rig? Im working on tool of my own
that is a stand alone app for just updating all rigs, reboting, changing miners and pools, starting stopping differnt batch files for differnt alogs as a stand alone app.

I dont like the idea of installing something every damn rig, I prefer an app that can read ips from a list
and do its thing.

Yes ethCONTROL (good distinction made earlier it's easy to get them confused) is an app which runs on each machine.

But it's a copy and paste the folder affair, not a full installer, so it takes very little time. It can also auto-update so you'll never have to manually copy it again.

And nothing beats the magic if you decide to mine a new coin, or want to update to a new version of a miner, when all you have to do is set it in the web ui then on every rig it downloads the miner, sets it up and starts mining.

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Finished the 5 card build
so it pulls about 750 watts and does about 2725 sols

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Quote from: VoskCoin on December 11, 2017, 04:35:45 PM

thoughts on powering risers connected to evga 1060 3gb that are going to be pulling no more than 70 watts with a sata connection split 3 ways?

aka 1 sata cable to 3 risers

also anywhere to buy individual cables evga psu / anything universal work properly with them?

I wouldn't do it. Some 1060 heat up the sata connector pretty good. In my case some Manli 1060 blower type.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 11, 2017, 11:19:16 AM

Quote from: martyroz on December 11, 2017, 09:12:22 AM

Well I just spend 5 hours trying to get 4 * Vega 64 working on a Gigabyte Z170-HD3...

instead of busting your ass to get 4 on 1 board.

buy the same board it is pretty cheap and do 3 on it...

After a reboot this morning, it magically found all 4 cards! 8,200 h/s now!

Phil can you comment;

I need to fix up my gaming PC. The story goes that I bought a 3*PCIE16x motherboard (ASUS Prime 270-AR) to make it a trio rig with SLI capability. So I plugged in 2 * EVGA 1080ti SC plus a GTX 1070 full-length. Sure enough, the middle card runs HOT (80°C). To be fair - I always planned on using a mini, I just haven't bought one yet.

So after playing games with SLI, it turns out that these days it pretty much sucks. So I'm happy to run a rig with no SLI capability. Here's what I will do;

* Move all cards to my new Nvidia rig (will join a 1070ti*2)
* Bring in an ASUS Strix 1080ti for main GPU slot to play games
* Buy two well-suited cards to mine with 24/7

Is it critical that the main GPU (slot #0) be a 'blower' too? I have room in the new Nvidia rig to house everything left over while buying 3 new GPU for the gaming rig.
What's a good blower GPU for slot #1?
What's a good mini/blower GPU for slot #2?

Basically, what's the best cherry-picked set-up today for a trio mining rig off 850W PSU?

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Fail to plan, and you plan to fail.

Quote from: QuintLeo on December 12, 2017, 03:20:31 PM

Quote from: citronick on December 12, 2017, 10:29:52 AM

LTC $323 holy goats!

I didn't realise you were Hindu?

The phrase you're looking for is "Holy Cow!" ...

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: QuintLeo on December 12, 2017, 03:16:45 PM

Quote from: vapourminer on December 12, 2017, 09:44:04 AM

those empty slots on my onda b250 are screaming "fill me!" so i just grabbed a gigabyte 1080ti

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125955

on sale 700 bucks with promo code EMCXBCBC2

Decent card other than the JUNK fans.
Cooling isn't noticeably better than the 2-fan EVGA SC model though.

i plan on running it at a fairly low powerlimit so hopefully the fans wont need to work too hard. we will see.

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Quote from: citronick on December 12, 2017, 10:29:52 AM

LTC $323 holy goats!

I didn't realise you were Hindu?

9-)

It does make me happier once again with my A2 part of my farm, and even more irritated at the "min 3 order" aspect of the A4+.

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Quote from: Marvell2 on December 12, 2017, 10:21:42 AM

Quote from: jimmykl on December 12, 2017, 09:45:10 AM

I use ethmonitoring.com with windows. It installs the miners, lets you switch profiles which control coin/pool (and set an afterburner profile), tracks pool profits, does alerts for hashrate per card or total, temperature, offline etc. and costs the same as smos. Has mobile apps too. Excuse the ad but I find it super useful. Though it doesn't give you the stability of linux and ability to run off a usb stick.

Ill look into this, do you have to install it on every rig? Im working on tool of my own
that is a stand alone app for just updating all rigs, reboting, changing miners and pools, starting stopping differnt batch files for differnt alogs as a stand alone app.

I dont like the idea of installing something every damn rig, I prefer an app that can read ips from a list
and do its thing.

It's the ethCONTROL part that lets you set stuff, ethMONITORING is just a fairly good "watch the cards" application that doesn't need anything extra on the mining machines, just "enable the API" on the actual miner software.

ethCONTROL is "tryware", they do charge for it for use on more than one machine past about a 1 month trial period.

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Quote from: vapourminer on December 12, 2017, 09:44:04 AM

those empty slots on my onda b250 are screaming "fill me!" so i just grabbed a gigabyte 1080ti

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125955

on sale 700 bucks with promo code EMCXBCBC2

Decent card other than the JUNK fans.
Cooling isn't noticeably better than the 2-fan EVGA SC model though.

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: QuintLeo on December 12, 2017, 03:08:18 PM

Quote from: vapourminer on December 12, 2017, 01:15:59 PM

i used some plastic washers from the hardware store to lift the mobo from the wood frame, then used wood screws through the mobo mounting holes to secure it. i do need to figure out a better way to secure the psus instead of zip ties though

Most hardware stores have some fairly small "shelf reinforcement" right-angle brackets of some sort.
I think I've even seen some usable ones at Walmart.

I've also seen "clips" apparently intended for automotive use, that have a "threaded" hole one one side and a small non-threaded one on the other side - the "threaded" side tends to be fairly large, #10 on the ones I'm planning to use, but the other side hole is suitable for the #6 screw to pass through and go into the PS itself.
Try Ace and possibly other larger places like Menards, Lowes, Home Depot, for those.

perfect, thanks.

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Quote from: vapourminer on December 12, 2017, 01:15:59 PM

i used some plastic washers from the hardware store to lift the mobo from the wood frame, then used wood screws through the mobo mounting holes to secure it. i do need to figure out a better way to secure the psus instead of zip ties though

Most hardware stores have some fairly small "shelf reinforcement" right-angle brackets of some sort.
I think I've even seen some usable ones at Walmart.

I've also seen "clips" apparently intended for automotive use, that have a "threaded" hole one one side and a small non-threaded one on the other side - the "threaded" side tends to be fairly large, #10 on the ones I'm planning to use, but the other side hole is suitable for the #6 screw to pass through and go into the PS itself.
Try Ace and possibly other larger places like Menards, Lowes, Home Depot, for those.

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Quote from: dudel42 on December 12, 2017, 08:07:07 AM

What do people use to set power limits and clocks for NVidia cards on Windows system startup (to set it all automatically before mining starts)? I'm using Afterburner to fiddle with the settings -- though I would much prefer a program with a "normal" user interface instead of the gaming skins. Also would be nice to be able to enter the numbers directly instead of using the finicky Afterburner sliders where I never seem to be able to hit the exact number I want to Wink

Anyway, maybe there is something simple to set it all once I got all my parameters, run it from a batch file or similar?

Also, how can one ensure that the power limits for the cards never get reset during operations (as the total power draw would be too much then)?

thanks!

Long time subscriber to your alt coin thread Philipma, absolutely love it. I'm a new user at Bitcointalk though. Hi to y'all.

For Windows I must recommend Nvidia Inspector (shout out to m1n1ngP4d4w4n for the tip and Helios45 for the thread

). It's probably the easiest and fastest way to set up OC and power limits from command line for Nvidia cards. I've set it up to run on boot before miners run. I have my miners restart every 24 hours, and sometimes AB would not load every OC setting. So I switched to Nvidia Inspector and haven't had issues since.

Sample batch file:

Code:

@echo off
nvidiaInspector.exe -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,135 -setMemoryClockOffset:0,0,550 -setPowerTarget:0,60 -setTempTarget:0,0,85
nvidiaInspector.exe -setBaseClockOffset:1,0,135 -setMemoryClockOffset:1,0,550 -setPowerTarget:1,60 -setTempTarget:1,0,85
nvidiaInspector.exe -setBaseClockOffset:2,0,135 -setMemoryClockOffset:2,0,550 -setPowerTarget:2,60 -setTempTarget:2,0,85
nvidiaInspector.exe -setBaseClockOffset:3,0,135 -setMemoryClockOffset:3,0,550 -setPowerTarget:3,60 -setTempTarget:3,0,85

Command line reference can be pulled up with an unsupported parameter, eg.

Code:

nvidiaInspector.exe -help

Original thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/automating-loading-afterburner-profiles-2536926

Edit: The version I use is NVIDIA Inspector v1.9.7.8.

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 12, 2017, 02:51:17 PM

Quote from: citronick on December 12, 2017, 01:17:02 PM

Phil - can you show how the fans are secured on the wooden rail? Thanks

Fans attached

a long wire tie in the back of the 2 fans then up and over the center gpu

heres another way, drywall screws through the mounting holes straight into the wood.

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Quote from: citronick on December 12, 2017, 01:17:02 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 12, 2017, 12:50:57 PM

Inspired by crazydane I built this last night
uses a 21 by 21 inch plywood board.
the red foam from the mobo packing to lift board and prevent static discharges
some stainless steel brackets to hold the corsair hx1200i psu
two scythe fans for cooling the three center cards

I have asus 1080ti ----msi 1070ti ----evga 1070ti --- msi 1070 ti ------------- waiting on a msi 1080 ti
...

solid numbers for the three cards
...

Phil - can you show how the fans are secured on the wooden rail? Thanks

This is a very nice build about 22 by 21 inches
can do 5 cards maybe more.

it is a 1080ti --big space -- 1070ti-1070-1070ti---big space--- 1080ti (waiting for this part)

Fans attached

a long wire tie in the back of the 2 fans then up and over the center gpu

look in the center gpu the one in between the 2 msi that reads geforce.

what you don't see is the back plate.

I have a lot of 2 fan back plates
this is not what I have on the photo but it will work

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010FAW5KM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 12, 2017, 12:50:57 PM

Inspired by crazydane I built this last night
uses a 21 by 21 inch plywood board.
the red foam from the mobo packing to lift board and prevent static discharges
some stainless steel brackets to hold the corsair hx1200i psu
two scythe fans for cooling the three center cards

I have asus 1080ti ----msi 1070ti ----evga 1070ti --- msi 1070 ti ------------- waiting on a msi 1080 ti
...

solid numbers for the three cards
...

Phil - can you show how the fans are secured on the wooden rail? Thanks

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