Topic: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company - page 10. (Read 104236 times)

Why is there no vote for asborbtion like we have discussed? Also, where is the hardware manifest we have been told about? I growing very tired of your dealings. Put up the damn motion like you said.

We've been demanding things all along that he has ignored.  We've been demanding a list of hardware, detail on purchase price of said hardware, etc.  He hasn't given any of that to us, so I doubt he'd comply with a demand to see bill(s) of sale.

I agree that he should get scammer tag for life though.  UNLESS he actually shows what was purchased on what dates, for how much, and it matches up with the information we already have about shares sold and BTC raised.

I guess you could demand to see Bill of sale.  I mean if it is sold on ebay that leaves a record.  If he sells the "equipment" (which may have never been purchased to begin with) to someone on this forum they can confirm it. 

If he claims he sold it to some anonymous person without any proof well hopefully he gets scammer tag for life.

So let me get this straight.

Tawsix the scammer still refuses to actually list what hardware has been purchased.

Tawsix the scammer initiated a vote on GLBSE to either liquidate the assets or let someone else take control of them.

Tawsix the scammer has given himself an equal number of shares as have been issued to everyone else, which means that whatever he wants to happen, will happen.

Likely, he'll vote his shares towards liquidating the assets, so no one else has a chance to see them.  That vote will win, of course, since he owns half the shares already.  The best we could hope for on the absorption front is EVERYONE else votes for it, but it would have to be every single shareholder, and it would only result in a tie.  Maybe he gave himself one extra share just so he could be sure he wins the vote.

So, liquidation will win.  He'll say he got X dollars for liquidating the assets, which may or may not be the truth - he won't give the details.  It'll be paid out in the form of BTC to the shareholders.  We'll never know what assets were actually owned, whether he pocketed some of the money raised by shareholders (which seems fairly likely at this point), whether the assets were liquidated at a fair and reasonable price, or whether he pocketed some of the money raised by liquidating some of the assets.


And that is exactly what he wants.


For anyone who still wants to fight him on this, he ILLEGALLY gave himself a larger share of the company.  He wrote a contract, then broke that contract by issuing shares to himself that he did not earn according to the terms of the contract, and that is the best point of contention I can find.

Obivous scam is obvious. Saying he has $1000 of equipment but only claiming $500 etc.

+1 Shades Minoco to absorb SIN

AND CAN WE PLEASE GET AN ASSETS LIST!?
Is it so hard?
You Tawsix keep avoiding this issue at all cost I wonder why...
SIN is over your argument of keeping the assets a secret is no longer valid!

Sorry, I was talking to Tawsix. I was trying to say "you" like this :

"You, Tawsix, are..."

NOT like :

"You, Tawsix, and myself..."

Sorry if my grammar failed 3:

No other offer has been made as far as I know.  My point was simply that it's unreasonable to expect there to be other offers when he won't tell us what the assets are exactly.

Sorry, I misread what you were referring to regarding assets.

I don't know what "better" offer regarding absorption could appear. As long as my shares do not lose value and there is a competent person running the rigs, I consider it a non-issue what absorbs SIN. Has anyone made any offer to absorb SIN other than Shades Minoco?

Technically the only shareholder I am certain is taking a part in this discussion is you, Tawsix( and myself).
This is a public discussion. Whether or not I think we should continue to discuss absorption should depend on how many shares of the IPO votes regarding the liquidation. If it is a low number, I think a dummy motion should be created pointing to a private discussion (password or link protected access).

If not that, then I think we need to find another way to prove who has shares, if we need to continue to discuss.

I just thought we were going to be having one motion up for 5 days, but it seems like it may be weeks before we come to a decision.

If you will list the assets maybe others could make offers.  There probably is someone who is willing to offer a dividend to shareholders as well as take control of the equipment and operate it for a small percentage of proceeds.

I said that he was not interested in buying the assets.


There have been maybe six or seven shareholders who have been expressing their opinions in this thread to allow for absorption, one of which would be the one acquiring SIN's assets.  I do not think this is a good sample, so I do not think it is wise to make this vote a dichotomy of either liquidation or absorption.  Just because we have had one offer does not mean it is the only one we can get, or the best one for the company.

I thought the plan was to have one motion decide.


I thought the absorption has already been discussed and has been determined as the ideal alternative. Then again, you (Tawsix) havent really discussed it yourself, even going to the point of saying shakaru was disinterested in the idea of absorption.

That depends.  If we can sell it all off in one lot that would probably be the most preferable option, but this would be something for investors to discuss.  eBay would definitely be on the table.  I would be open to suggestions on how to best get the company liquidated.  As far as likely proceeds, the typical estimate would be half of the value of the equipment being sold.  That is an underestimate in my opinion however, as most of the hardware we have seems to be selling for over that value on eBay.  I think in total we can expect somewhere between nine and ten thousand dollars USD.  However this is just speculation, things could be better or worse, so I hesitate to make any definitive statement on the matter.

If this motion is voted down, we will then have a discussion on what action to take and vote accordingly.


A vote of yes is for liquidation.  A vote of no is against liquidation.  If the vote fails we will discuss what action is to be taken and then vote on that action.

A vote of Yes is for the liquidation and against absorption. A vote of No is against liquidation and for absorption. If the liquidation is voted down, I expect the absorption to go through.

Could you please give more details on the procedure for liquidating SIN and your estimate of the likely proceeds you will get for the equipment? Where will you be selling the company's assets? eBay?

If this motion is voted down, would you then consider Shakaru's proposal?

I have started the motion concerning the liquidation of SIN, it's ID is 62 (I made a test motion with ID 61 to make sure everything was working correctly, so just ignore that one).  The motion text is as follows:


Voting will go until midnight the 22nd of November.  Hopefully this will be enough time for the majority of investors to vote.

agreed. I only want to see this mess turn into a profit. I know that it is there if the hardware exist.

I want to see a quick liquidation or absorption... I am not interested in losing money just to bring Tawsix to justice. Taking Tawsix to court should be only considered an option to prevent losses, not something to be persued.

It is in the shareholders best interest to preserve the value of their return and taking this to court(at this point) will only increase losses.

I really think we should file a suit and get his fat ass into jail. This guy scammed us all and the biggest mistake he did was thinking he could get away with it !!! This is not Nigeria boy, this is the US of A. People uphold the law or get screwed by big Bubba in the prison cell. I hope that is coming for you Mr Scammer. Soon

Thank you! Finally someone who knows something that dosent start with "I dont have the facts to back this up..."

If this would turn into a legal battle, class action representation is the way to go.
Any word on when the SIN GLBSE account will be working? All the SDM ones have no issue. Even raising a motion. How is it that only SIN is affected when a vote is to be called that would blow this scam out of the water?