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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 21, 2023, 11:31:50 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on August 21, 2023, 03:12:25 AM

Have you tried Forge of Olympus?

Good game, I thought it was another Gates/Starlight rehash, but they offer level-up and the multipliers don't stack on the new rounds.
This is a game that kinda feels medium volatility, with longer gameplay on the bonus round.

What I don't like is 96.25% RTP, it deviates from the usual (old) 96.5% RTP of Pragmatic games... The new releases from Pragmatic also have lower RTPs than 96.5%, sad! These providers are getting greedy!

Yeah, that is what also feel like watching streams playing pragmatic games. They also have a wager bonus-themed slots where I see a streamer loses 7x in a row wagering for the number of spins. It is an instant rekt for that streamer. And watching those types of streams makes me avoid games from Pragmatic play. Aside from that I also watched a series of bonus buys from Pragmatic resulting in 5x up to 50x base bet results.

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 21, 2023, 03:12:25 AM

Have you tried Forge of Olympus?

Good game, I thought it was another Gates/Starlight rehash, but they offer level-up and the multipliers don't stack on the new rounds.
This is a game that kinda feels medium volatility, with longer gameplay on the bonus round.

What I don't like is 96.25% RTP, it deviates from the usual (old) 96.5% RTP of Pragmatic games... The new releases from Pragmatic also have lower RTPs than 96.5%, sad! These providers are getting greedy!

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 11, 2023, 02:48:38 AM

I have stopped trying Wisdom of Athena, I tried it many times too but no luck for me to hit nice multiplier. It proofs that even if the game has 5,000x max win and has the same RTP as others but the chance to hit max win is lower. My best multiplier in Wisdom of Athena is 700x only from the base bet while my best multiplier in Starlight Princess 1000 is less than 600x.

Exactly as I said this game is more difficult than gates of olympus, it looks easier because the multiplier will be accumulated but the reality is not as easy as we imagine. By the way, have you compared regular spins vs buy spins? I tried it several times and regular spin is more profitable for me even I tried it in 2 different casinos the result is almost the same, but when I use the buy feature you know it's a losing streak Cheesy

I don't know if it was just an unlucky day.

My highest multiplier is 1008x I got it after dozens of buy spins with low ROI overall not enough to cover my losses, I'm not interested in trying this game again maybe a good idea to add this game to the blacklist lol.

Have you tried Forge of Olympus? I just tried it with 6 bonus buy @60k IDR each and here are the best results:

https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/1jfrlCC60b
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/X9XiXBIi7i
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/tJqjitD4oo
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/3oZOZ9bZdi

These 4 rounds started with 6 scatters which gave me instant money back from what I spent to buy the bonus and gave me 20 free spins (few with additional 5 free spins). But the final were all bad, not single one gave me 2x return lol. I can say it is even worse than Wisdom of Athena, multiplier rare to come and it is hard to level up for bigger minimum multiplier. Let me know your result if you have tried it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 15, 2023, 03:14:33 AM

Quote from: ryzaadit on August 09, 2023, 04:11:57 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on August 08, 2023, 03:58:54 AM

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That's what should be.

However, for the majority of people (even my self, not really want to be a hypocrite) 90% even me are chasing winning ~XD. I played slot at the time on winning situaton (at least my balance up more than 50%), as you know slot is a gambling game are really drain our money.

Maybe other people can combine playing other game, not just slot (to maintennace the loss from slot are not really high at all).

All of us are "chasing winning" when playing slots. And that's normal. We all want to win. What we shouldn't do is chasing our losses. That's when problems start to appear: when you want to win back what you recently lost. Of course, I was doing this same mistake, and not once, in the past, but the key to know for sure that it's a mistake and try to avoid it.

Isn't chasing victory and also chasing defeat the same thing but has a different meaning?
Both of these actions carry the risk of losing overall money because by chasing victory a gambler will be more optimistic and ignore the risks that make him continue to gamble until the goal of winning is achieved, sometimes when a win has been obtained there is still a greater desire to win again it's the same as when you're chasing losses that you get.
What we need to realize is that slot games are one of the games that can spend money very quickly because each bet is based on one round, just like roulette, so when playing slot games every gambler must be able to have a money limit so that they don't go too deep when losing.
Every mistake there is a lesson that can be taken so as not to repeat it again and not all gamblers can learn from their mistakes but only continue to pursue what has become a goal or desire.

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Quote from: masulum on August 15, 2023, 09:53:37 AM

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the most important thing is, when we lose, we must realize that winning is not in our side today. I have a friend who is addicted to playing slot games (not gambling sites), he spends a lot of money for this game, he even has many accounts. When I asked what that number of accounts was for, the answer was "each account has a different results". Meanwhile, in my opinion, this is a thought that has 2 perceptions. can be yes or no. because even though it's not a pure gambling application, my friend always chases the winning, spending a lot of money on this game for his several account. Things like this can happen on gambling sites. One thinks that must be remembered, having multiple accounts can't guarantee achieve different results. In fact, there were also many user losers on all of accounts they have.

that clearly means he has lost overall in all those accounts, but some have been a bit better than others.

It's human nature to try to keep the losses to ourselves, and boast about the wins. It's typical in gamblers.

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hmph..

Quote from: Betwrong on August 15, 2023, 03:14:33 AM

All of us are "chasing winning" when playing slots. And that's normal. We all want to win. What we shouldn't do is chasing our losses. That's when problems start to appear: when you want to win back what you recently lost. Of course, I was doing this same mistake, and not once, in the past, but the key to know for sure that it's a mistake and try to avoid it.

the most important thing is, when we lose, we must realize that winning is not in our side today. I have a friend who is addicted to playing slot games (not gambling sites), he spends a lot of money for this game, he even has many accounts. When I asked what that number of accounts was for, the answer was "each account has a different results". Meanwhile, in my opinion, this is a thought that has 2 perceptions. can be yes or no. because even though it's not a pure gambling application, my friend always chases the winning, spending a lot of money on this game for his several account. Things like this can happen on gambling sites. One thinks that must be remembered, having multiple accounts can't guarantee achieve different results. In fact, there were also many user losers on all of accounts they have.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 09, 2023, 04:11:57 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on August 08, 2023, 03:58:54 AM

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That's what should be.

However, for the majority of people (even my self, not really want to be a hypocrite) 90% even me are chasing winning ~XD. I played slot at the time on winning situaton (at least my balance up more than 50%), as you know slot is a gambling game are really drain our money.

Maybe other people can combine playing other game, not just slot (to maintennace the loss from slot are not really high at all).

All of us are "chasing winning" when playing slots. And that's normal. We all want to win. What we shouldn't do is chasing our losses. That's when problems start to appear: when you want to win back what you recently lost. Of course, I was doing this same mistake, and not once, in the past, but the key to know for sure that it's a mistake and try to avoid it.

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Any of you tried Diamond Cascade by Pragmatic?
This is the first game by Pragmatic that I cant understand, even after reading the game rules but anytime I played it, I cant fully understand it LOL.
I can say that this is the most complicated game by Pragmatic I've tried in my gambling journey for years.
If any of you tried this game and understand it better than me, please share your opinion about this games.
I played it like dumb because I played a game that I dont understand at all Grin

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 11, 2023, 02:48:38 AM

I have stopped trying Wisdom of Athena, I tried it many times too but no luck for me to hit nice multiplier. It proofs that even if the game has 5,000x max win and has the same RTP as others but the chance to hit max win is lower. My best multiplier in Wisdom of Athena is 700x only from the base bet while my best multiplier in Starlight Princess 1000 is less than 600x.

Exactly as I said this game is more difficult than gates of olympus, it looks easier because the multiplier will be accumulated but the reality is not as easy as we imagine. By the way, have you compared regular spins vs buy spins? I tried it several times and regular spin is more profitable for me even I tried it in 2 different casinos the result is almost the same, but when I use the buy feature you know it's a losing streak Cheesy

I don't know if it was just an unlucky day.

My highest multiplier is 1008x I got it after dozens of buy spins with low ROI overall not enough to cover my losses, I'm not interested in trying this game again maybe a good idea to add this game to the blacklist lol.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 10, 2023, 05:47:51 PM

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Maybe auto spin for a type slot who have option 1000-5000 auto spin? HAHAHAHA

If he working, Impossible to play it on the work-time. So maybe after 18:00/19:00 and ended in the morning ~XD It's crazy to see 10 hour play straight, even we all know his bankroll only 30$ (small-balance)

But still, his play section are crazy.

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 11, 2023, 02:48:38 AM

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New released slots from Pragmatic this year seems to be not giving good luck, maybe it is better to play older one such as Gates of Olympus, Fruit Party and others. Anyway, there is a pure 15,000x max win Starlight Princess 1000 in Stake today. What a lucky player as he hit it with $1 base bet although we do not know how much the player spent/lost before hitting the max win.

The new slot game released this year is actually quite reliable when you play on the same day the game was released.
For example, the recent Starlight Princess 1000, which was just released recently, has given gamblers enough wins.
A few days ago I tried Starlight Princess 1000 and managed to have several wins with the scatter twice coming out but unfortunately the big multiplier that appears cannot give satisfactory results because there are no fractions.

Try to play in this one game who knows you are also lucky to have a number of decent wins.

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 11, 2023, 02:48:38 AM

I have stopped trying Wisdom of Athena, I tried it many times too but no luck for me to hit nice multiplier. It proofs that even if the game has 5,000x max win and has the same RTP as others but the chance to hit max win is lower. My best multiplier in Wisdom of Athena is 700x only from the base bet while my best multiplier in Starlight Princess 1000 is less than 600x.

New released slots from Pragmatic this year seems to be not giving good luck, maybe it is better to play older one such as Gates of Olympus, Fruit Party and others. Anyway, there is a pure 15,000x max win Starlight Princess 1000 in Stake today. What a lucky player as he hit it with $1 base bet although we do not know how much the player spent/lost before hitting the max win.

I've never played Wisdom of Athena. Maybe next time I'll play it for some time. But you are already lucky to get the best multiplier of 700x, considering @BitcoinHunt3r said the game is very hard. Meanwhile, in Starlight Princess 1000, I couldn't win the game and only used up my balance hahaha Grin

But for Gates of Olumpus, I managed to win a little bit of money, just a little bit, and it didn't really impact me that much. But that's okay because that's gambling. Maybe next time I can get lucky Grin

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on August 10, 2023, 06:30:51 AM

My hunt ended in the game Wisdom of Athena sucked me up over 31 buy spins without ROI you know this game sucked me in a row lol, I will repeat it next week because the same thing happened to Starlight Princess until I finally hit the big one.

I have stopped trying Wisdom of Athena, I tried it many times too but no luck for me to hit nice multiplier. It proofs that even if the game has 5,000x max win and has the same RTP as others but the chance to hit max win is lower. My best multiplier in Wisdom of Athena is 700x only from the base bet while my best multiplier in Starlight Princess 1000 is less than 600x.

New released slots from Pragmatic this year seems to be not giving good luck, maybe it is better to play older one such as Gates of Olympus, Fruit Party and others. Anyway, there is a pure 15,000x max win Starlight Princess 1000 in Stake today. What a lucky player as he hit it with $1 base bet although we do not know how much the player spent/lost before hitting the max win.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on August 10, 2023, 06:30:51 AM

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10 hours of non-stop playing??? @BitcoinHunt3r I wonder how you hold that long, I also get easily bored after an hour or two of playing just like @ryzaadit and yet you did it for 10 hours. Are you sure you don't have problem on getting too hooked on gambling? I hope that you are all good and still have control on your gambling activity.

Btw, that almost max win on Starlight Princess rocks its raining multipliers of 100s and 250s but sadly the 500s did not connect it could have been a max win if it does.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 10, 2023, 12:42:09 PM

200 buy spin?
Man, go sleep and control the addiction. It's crazy to see you are playing straight 10 hour on gambling, I can't even imagine playing that long. I play 1-2 hours, sometimes my stomach is really hurt.

No bro, I don't gamble every day but only when I receive a campaign payment and usually I set a profit target to stop. and sometimes I do it just for testing I mean I like to experiment. My campaign payout was only $33 and I was lucky enough to play almost 10 hours you can imagine what I could do with $33 Cheesy

Quote from: masulum on August 10, 2023, 01:06:34 PM

Hunting for the max win on Starlight? This would be a challenge for you.

I'm just curious about this game Starlight Princess because since launch I never reach maxwin while in other games like Gates of Olympus I have often reached maxwin even though this is the same game, it's just a different theme. To be honest, almost all games from Pragmatic I went through with Maxwin I mean games with x5000 multiplier except for Starlight Princess, this one hasn't.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 10, 2023, 12:42:09 PM

Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on August 10, 2023, 06:30:51 AM

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200 buy spin?

Man, go sleep and control the addiction. It's crazy to see you are playing straight 10 hour on gambling, I can't even imagine playing that long. I play 1-2 hours, sometimes my stomach is really hurt.

That's crazy & bad at the same time.

My working hours are no more than 10 hours. LOL

I play the slot for 2 hours at most, even if there is a pretty good win, but if at the beginning of the round purchase does not return capital sometimes 30 minutes also the capital is gone. Grin

@BitcoinHunt3r Starlight Princess is not in my favor for some reason several times trying Starlight Princess did not get a satisfied win.

But it hits 100x 3x and 250x you are really lucky.

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hmph..

Quote from: ryzaadit on August 10, 2023, 12:42:09 PM

Man, go sleep and control the addiction. It's crazy to see you are playing straight 10 hour on gambling, I can't even imagine playing that long. I play 1-2 hours, sometimes my stomach is really hurt.

I have samilar experience, when I play slots, but this one is extremely activity. When I was on a work holiday, I once played for about 4-5 hours in a day. I spent my vacation time just playing slots, and in the end, despite playing for a long time, I didn't achieve any significant wins.

Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on August 10, 2023, 06:30:51 AM

I guess it's more than 4-5 hours, yesterday I did the same about 200 buy spins you know it's almost 10 hours Cheesy

out of 200 buy spins one of them pranked me, Starlight Princess came close to giving me maxwin when big multipliers fall around unfortunately it's only a x3200 multiplier here if you want to watch. My hunt ended in the game Wisdom of Athena sucked me up over 31 buy spins without ROI you know this game sucked me in a row lol, I will repeat it next week because the same thing happened to Starlight Princess until I finally hit the big one.

Hunting for the max win on Starlight? This would be a challenge for you., (based on my experience), if you're aiming for the max win, try playing Fruit Party 1; that might be the game you can find a maxwin. of course this is also not guaranteed maxwin results. But from this game i already get several maswin.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on August 10, 2023, 06:30:51 AM

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200 buy spin?

Man, go sleep and control the addiction. It's crazy to see you are playing straight 10 hour on gambling, I can't even imagine playing that long. I play 1-2 hours, sometimes my stomach is really hurt.

That's crazy & bad at the same time.

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 09, 2023, 04:27:02 AM

How many hours I spent for the 100 buy spins, I dont think that I spent too many hours because 1 bonus round usually take few minutes only, bad bonus round will run faster because every single spin is ZONK Wink

. However I did not do it continuously but most of them were done on last Saturday-Sunday when I have a lot of free time.

I guess it's more than 4-5 hours, yesterday I did the same about 200 buy spins you know it's almost 10 hours Cheesy

out of 200 buy spins one of them pranked me, Starlight Princess came close to giving me maxwin when big multipliers fall around unfortunately it's only a x3200 multiplier here if you want to watch. My hunt ended in the game Wisdom of Athena sucked me up over 31 buy spins without ROI you know this game sucked me in a row lol, I will repeat it next week because the same thing happened to Starlight Princess until I finally hit the big one.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on August 07, 2023, 06:30:37 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on August 07, 2023, 05:27:13 AM

I am quite sure the one with 12,000x is a max win in this game but he did it with the double feature bet which reduce the actual 15,000x to 12,000x. The same as the other game with 5,000x max win but there are many who hit max win only 4,000x due to the usage of the double feature bet. One thing I forget to mention is that in this strarlight 1000, there is bigger wild multiplier which is 1,000x while the original one is only 500x as the biggest one. I keep trying it for 3 days now and I'm sure I have made more than 3000 normal spins and more than 100 buy bonus (of course all were with the smallest base bet) but unfortunately I did not even see bigger wild multiplier than 25x.

Yeah I have checked this game the main difference of this game is in the multiplier x500 vs x1000 and maxwin is 3 times higher than original x15000
I'm not surprised if the ROI on your hunt is always low because based on the maxwin comparison, of course the difficulty level is also 3x more difficult
I'm not interested in trying this game the risk is higher and we can check the list of highest multipliers from other users x1,842 , x2,420 and x12,000
Better to play the original game even though the maxwin is lower but the ROI is better, I can't imagine how many hours you spend on 100 buy spins Cheesy

How many hours I spent for the 100 buy spins, I dont think that I spent too many hours because 1 bonus round usually take few minutes only, bad bonus round will run faster because every single spin is ZONK Wink

. However I did not do it continuously but most of them were done on last Saturday-Sunday when I have a lot of free time.

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