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legendary
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It's a shame, the big win that was in front of my eyes was finally destroyed because of emotion, again I wasted my chance when I won haha. Playing Chaisen Maxways earlier won 10x from the bonus buy IDR100K, and lost all of this win. Well, luckily there are still wins, so I can still makes a Withdraw even though it's only part of the winnings I get.

Unfortunately, in Spadegaming there are no replays, so I can't share my winnings.
I don't blame you, sometimes we say that we won't fall into temptation or the corresponding emotion, but somehow sometimes we get carried away and to get much more we don't get anything but what we do is lose, it has happened to me and well, it is something that one must learn to control, sometimes emotions are what keep us from logic and the correct way to win.

If we take into account that games of chance always make us think that we will win more and more, we should control the fact that we have to be clear that it is most likely to lose, sometimes when you have small profits I have learned that it is better to withdraw, so the emotion falls.
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1233
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This is it,I will never play my beloved slot again,I played like 70 USD and never got the bonus round,this f*cking slot Swords and Holy Grail has the worst volatility I have ever seen.I am not mad at the amount lost as that is a really small amount for me but I am mad at how can people still play this game while this game f*cks you up this bad and you come back.Never again for me.

I think you will come back once the game gives you such emotions that I even see them through your message ) By the way, isn't high volatility a plus in some sense? After all, this means that the winnings can be much larger than the bet. I don't know much about slots, but it seems to me that high volatility is the flip side of the fact that you are claiming a huge win.

He will come back to play that game again, no doubt about it since he always talk about that game in this topic. I'm sure he is addicted to Swords and Holy Grail already, that's why it is rare to see him talk about other games. Frankly speaking I was in his position few years back when I had a favorite game to play and I was not interested to play other games. It took long time for me to forget about the game then moved to other games.

I will update here next week Tuesday or Wednesday as a maximum but I am highly confident I am not touching not only that game again but even slots in general.The happenings when you play 70 dollars and with just 0.40 bet and you don't even get one time the bonus round in a game where the bonus round usually falls often on the reels is a clear indication to me that I should stop playing.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
This is it,I will never play my beloved slot again,I played like 70 USD and never got the bonus round,this f*cking slot Swords and Holy Grail has the worst volatility I have ever seen.I am not mad at the amount lost as that is a really small amount for me but I am mad at how can people still play this game while this game f*cks you up this bad and you come back.Never again for me.

I think you will come back once the game gives you such emotions that I even see them through your message ) By the way, isn't high volatility a plus in some sense? After all, this means that the winnings can be much larger than the bet. I don't know much about slots, but it seems to me that high volatility is the flip side of the fact that you are claiming a huge win.

He will come back to play that game again, no doubt about it since he always talk about that game in this topic. I'm sure he is addicted to Swords and Holy Grail already, that's why it is rare to see him talk about other games. Frankly speaking I was in his position few years back when I had a favorite game to play and I was not interested to play other games. It took long time for me to forget about the game then moved to other games.
legendary
Activity: 2394
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1% Skill 99% Luck :v
This is it,I will never play my beloved slot again,I played like 70 USD and never got the bonus round,this f*cking slot Swords and Holy Grail has the worst volatility I have ever seen
You better move to Rise of Olympus Cheesy



I am not mad at the amount lost as that is a really small amount for me but I am mad at how can people still play this game while this game f*cks you up this bad and you come back.Never again for me.
I have no idea, it seems there are only a few players (including you) who are still playing that game lol
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 1351
This is it,I will never play my beloved slot again,I played like 70 USD and never got the bonus round,this f*cking slot Swords and Holy Grail has the worst volatility I have ever seen.I am not mad at the amount lost as that is a really small amount for me but I am mad at how can people still play this game while this game f*cks you up this bad and you come back.Never again for me.

Is it a question for yourself as you seems to be the one who always play this game (at least in this thread)?  Cheesy
Having favorite slot to play is fine but you should also consider to play other games, keep playing the same game again and again is boring IMO.
It will not give you guarantee of big win as well, you may get big win if you play it as long as possible in a single session continuously.

hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 629
This is it,I will never play my beloved slot again,I played like 70 USD and never got the bonus round,this f*cking slot Swords and Holy Grail has the worst volatility I have ever seen.I am not mad at the amount lost as that is a really small amount for me but I am mad at how can people still play this game while this game f*cks you up this bad and you come back.Never again for me.

I think you will come back once the game gives you such emotions that I even see them through your message ) By the way, isn't high volatility a plus in some sense? After all, this means that the winnings can be much larger than the bet. I don't know much about slots, but it seems to me that high volatility is the flip side of the fact that you are claiming a huge win.
legendary
Activity: 2226
Merit: 1592
hmph..
This is it,I will never play my beloved slot again,I played like 70 USD and never got the bonus round,this f*cking slot Swords and Holy Grail has the worst volatility I have ever seen.
For me, when I never win in a game, I will try it for several times until I am really stuck and feel there is no hope to get a big win. Lately, I've never won at Sweet Bonanza, after a few tries and still get the same result, I'm avoiding this game a bit. Same with the games you play, maybe they want to play even though they lose, apart from the preference factor, they also want to try their luck before they run away because they are bored with the results.
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1233
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
This is it,I will never play my beloved slot again,I played like 70 USD and never got the bonus round,this f*cking slot Swords and Holy Grail has the worst volatility I have ever seen.I am not mad at the amount lost as that is a really small amount for me but I am mad at how can people still play this game while this game f*cks you up this bad and you come back.Never again for me.
copper member
Activity: 2324
Merit: 2142
Slots Enthusiast & Expert
I have to say Mega Moolah is a bad choice to play when you are hunting for high multiplier as the chance to get high multiplier is to hit the jackpot.
Dont use Mega Moolah in case you are participating in multiplier contest, you can do it if you are hunting for the jackpot only.
You do not need to explore slots, simply check this thread and look at what are shared by others about their wins especially the one from roycilik.
True, if you hit the jackpot, the contest prize will taste just like a dust compared to the jackpot Grin
By the way, both multiplier contest and bonus buy are up!
Duelbits.com | Bonus Buy Bonanza #43 ~$850 up for grabs! | 5 Day Event
Duelbits.com | Multiplier Master #69 ~ $1090 up for grabs | 5 Day Event

There's still some time to post your result.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 1351
I’m new on this but how much bankroll typically being burnt just to get a potential high multiplier? I play mega moohlah before and I burned 400$ without even getting a high multiplier enough to compete with other winning multiplier. It’s so scary to explore slots because I don’t have any idea if I will just burn completely my bank roll without getting any huge win.


I have to say Mega Moolah is a bad choice to play when you are hunting for high multiplier as the chance to get high multiplier is to hit the jackpot.
Dont use Mega Moolah in case you are participating in multiplier contest, you can do it if you are hunting for the jackpot only.
You do not need to explore slots, simply check this thread and look at what are shared by others about their wins especially the one from roycilik.
 
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 629
It's a shame, the big win that was in front of my eyes was finally destroyed because of emotion, again I wasted my chance when I won haha. Playing Chaisen Maxways earlier won 10x from the bonus buy IDR100K, and lost all of this win. Well, luckily there are still wins, so I can still makes a Withdraw even though it's only part of the winnings I get.

Unfortunately, in Spadegaming there are no replays, so I can't share my winnings.

And again, you have just repeated your own mistake Smiley but it is very common thing to happen when we are gambling and make nice profit earlier. Mostly we think that it is our lucky day so we continue playing but unfortunately we lose it half or even all eventually. This is why I always say in some other threads that we should have a target/limit of winning before start our gambling session.

There is another motivation to keep playing: we value winnings as free money. For example, we started playing with 100 dollars and won another 400. We think: even if I lose 400 dollars, my 100 will still remain with me "in fact, I risk nothing." Naturally, not everyone can stop on time and so losing even the initial pot.
copper member
Activity: 2324
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Slots Enthusiast & Expert
I’m new on this but how much bankroll typically being burnt just to get a potential high multiplier? I play mega moohlah before and I burned 400$ without even getting a high multiplier enough to compete with other winning multiplier. It’s so scary to explore slots because I don’t have any idea if I will just burn completely my bank roll without getting any huge win.
It depends on your luck, and I'm afraid it cannot be measured even with approximation. Last time I take part in that competition, I burnt $400+ without submitting my result. It was so bad, not even 200x. That's when I decided to stop for a while  Grin

Anyway, don't try to push your luck in the multiplier contest since nothing you can do if luck isn't on your side. It only serves as a nice +theoretical RTP, but in reality, even if you get the highest multiplier, your bankroll can still be negative (loss).

About the preferred games, since most of the time the #1 winner only got below 3,000x, games with 5,000x max-win, high volatility, and $0.1 minimum bet are the best choice IMO.
legendary
Activity: 2226
Merit: 1592
hmph..
-snip- Mostly we think that it is our lucky day so we continue playing but unfortunately we lose it half or even all eventually. This is why I always say in some other threads that we should have a target/limit of winning before start our gambling session.
You are right about this, I think the same, since I'm win when starting with low budget, but get 10x after trying with 100K bonus buy once, and win, so i keeping with 60 after that but lose in a row and increased my bet with 100K again for few times, and all of them lose slowly.

Lucky still on my side, today I playing from rackback, and make a withdraw to cover my winning lose before and stop playing for today Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1233
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
It's a shame, the big win that was in front of my eyes was finally destroyed because of emotion, again I wasted my chance when I won haha. Playing Chaisen Maxways earlier won 10x from the bonus buy IDR100K, and lost all of this win. Well, luckily there are still wins, so I can still makes a Withdraw even though it's only part of the winnings I get.

Unfortunately, in Spadegaming there are no replays, so I can't share my winnings.

And again, you have just repeated your own mistake Smiley but it is very common thing to happen when we are gambling and make nice profit earlier. Mostly we think that it is our lucky day so we continue playing but unfortunately we lose it half or even all eventually. This is why I always say in some other threads that we should have a target/limit of winning before start our gambling session.

I used to make the same mistakes but somehow by limiting myself to play only once a week and little money,when I win big in my beloved slot which I know now everyone of you knows (SW and HG) when I get big wins from the bonus game I only keep playing like 5-10 dollars more and if I see I am not winning I immediately thereafter quit.This have proven to be quite a great strategy so far,as I have won more than I have lost lately although the wins are not as big as before when I used to get those 1000-2000x quite often.
hero member
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Burpaaa
if there a simple method to know the volatility rate of each slot without undergoing to actually play the game real/demo.
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Is there a website that provides data base for an in depth analysis on each slot?
If just opening the game and read the (i) information is also forbidden, then you can use 3rd party slots review sites such as slotcatalog.com or others.

I really want to know what's the best slot to get a higher multiplier so I conclude that volatility will be the key to my question but I don't know how to choose the perfect slot for it.
You should search for extreme or very high volatility slots paired with high max-win. Well, on the far right of the scale you can try DOA2, Mega Moolah, Tombstone RIP.



Thanks for this, Kinda late to read this but will take in consideration the slots that you suggest as well as the slot review site when I participate on the next multiplier master of Duelbits.

I’m new on this but how much bankroll typically being burnt just to get a potential high multiplier? I play mega moohlah before and I burned 400$ without even getting a high multiplier enough to compete with other winning multiplier. It’s so scary to explore slots because I don’t have any idea if I will just burn completely my bank roll without getting any huge win.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
It's a shame, the big win that was in front of my eyes was finally destroyed because of emotion, again I wasted my chance when I won haha. Playing Chaisen Maxways earlier won 10x from the bonus buy IDR100K, and lost all of this win. Well, luckily there are still wins, so I can still makes a Withdraw even though it's only part of the winnings I get.

Unfortunately, in Spadegaming there are no replays, so I can't share my winnings.

And again, you have just repeated your own mistake Smiley but it is very common thing to happen when we are gambling and make nice profit earlier. Mostly we think that it is our lucky day so we continue playing but unfortunately we lose it half or even all eventually. This is why I always say in some other threads that we should have a target/limit of winning before start our gambling session.
legendary
Activity: 2226
Merit: 1592
hmph..
It's a shame, the big win that was in front of my eyes was finally destroyed because of emotion, again I wasted my chance when I won haha. Playing Chaisen Maxways earlier won 10x from the bonus buy IDR100K, and lost all of this win. Well, luckily there are still wins, so I can still makes a Withdraw even though it's only part of the winnings I get.

Unfortunately, in Spadegaming there are no replays, so I can't share my winnings.
copper member
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I felt the discussion above mostly is just a matter of definition, just like this scene.
For us street gamblers, it's pretty obvious that the smaller the minimum bet, the more we can spin, scoring more wager before our limited bankroll got empty.

Real example, I participated in a contest some time ago and I made 200k bets with $0.01 bet means I have wagered $2,000 while I started it with less than $50.
I believe I wont reach $2,000 wager if I bet more than $0.5 per spin as I may lose my initial bankroll sooner.
Yeah, the important assumption here is "limited bankroll" as the theory often forgot to mention the used assumption.
For example, RTP/HE assumes unlimited spins/bankroll.

So with $50, we can spin more with a $0.01 minimum bet and:
on a larger number of bets, we will get the value closest to the RTP.
Smiley
legendary
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Thanks for the explanations, but it turns out that for a wager, the presence of a convenient minimum bet does not greatly affect the final result, because there is no difference in making 100 dollar bets or 1000 bets of $0.1 from the point of view of wagering. There is a difference only in the variance i.e. on a larger number of bets, we will get the value closest to the RTP. And yes, we won’t be able to “wind up” a lot wager for competition with our 100 dollars, and any whale will win it from us.

If you are going to wager as much as possible with slot games, min bet does affect the result.
Simple example, you have starting balance of $100 and you want to wager $10k.
The chance to reach the goal is better if you bet smaller lets say 0.1-0.2 than betting bigger amount like $5-$10.
Real example, I participated in a contest some time ago and I made 200k bets with $0.01 bet means I have wagered $2,000 while I started it with less than $50.
I believe I wont reach $2,000 wager if I bet more than $0.5 per spin as I may lose my initial bankroll sooner.
However if the main purpose is to compete wagering contest, it is obvious that small bets wont have chance to win but I think the main idea from ralle14 is about how to wager much with less risk of losing much.
legendary
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isn't the house edge in slots about the same for all games? By and large, there is no difference in which game to play, there is only a difference whether you can choose the degree of risk or not (and compared to dice, of course, there are much fewer options for choosing).
Well, it depends on how much difference would you call as "about the same." Yeah, Pragmatic Play has a ~96.5% RTP, and others vary from ~95% to ~97%. However, that's not the point when @Bitinity suggest Tree of Riches and 888 Dragon.

These two games simply allow you to bet $0.01/spin, therefore, your balance will last longer than if you play with a higher bet (let's say $0.1/spin). For wagering contests, there are two variables that pretty much determine the "sustainability, " i.e., (1) minimum bet, and (2) volatility (e.g. 1.01x setting at dice). Since you can't tweak the slots volatility, it would be best to seek for the lowest minimum bet allowed. This is the "best bang for your buck" method. However, this method can't guarantee winning because it's slow. You'll be out-wagered by a whale with $10/spin. Grin

Thanks for the explanations, but it turns out that for a wager, the presence of a convenient minimum bet does not greatly affect the final result, because there is no difference in making 100 dollar bets or 1000 bets of $0.1 from the point of view of wagering. There is a difference only in the variance i.e. on a larger number of bets, we will get the value closest to the RTP. And yes, we won’t be able to “wind up” a lot wager for competition with our 100 dollars, and any whale will win it from us.
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