So many threads on FIFA World Cup 2022

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Quote from: Beparanf on December 23, 2022, 02:03:14 PM

I was once thinking like you until I realized that sports discussion is related on sport betting in terms of analysis to make a bet. It’s not necessary that post is all related to bets to classified it as gambling when the discussion can be use as reference for choosing a bet.

I’m not a soccer fan but reading those sports conversations by reputable members commenting in there makes me an idea on deciding my bets and to establish basis for my own analysis. But I agree that most user posting on sports thread is doesn’t intend to discuss gambling but rather on sports alone to meet the signature post quota.

You are right on spot as sports discussions are mainly for the purpose of getting to know the point of view of the people about the match or sports and then can decide on which team to bet.
I usually post the odds too in my discussions and give analysis of whether betting is even favorable or not. Though i still stand on my point that one sport should have one discussion thread.

By the way, I see for Boxing, we have separate threads for most of the matches, which is not right either. Why not discuss all boxing matches in this one thread Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 23, 2022, 01:50:02 PM

I had locked the topic but had to unlock once I have visited the gambling discussion board. Are we having gambling discussion or sport discussion? Sometimes, I'm confused why the board isn't heavily moderated? The board is full of stupid discussion; yet the threads exist, don't get deleted.
One more World cup thread- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scaloni-a-time-traveler-and-some-lore-behind-argentina-champion-5430913
I wanted to create new thread but seems this thread fit the best.

I was once thinking like you until I realized that sports discussion is related on sport betting in terms of analysis to make a bet. It’s not necessary that post is all related to bets to classified it as gambling when the discussion can be use as reference for choosing a bet.

I’m not a soccer fan but reading those sports conversations by reputable members commenting in there makes me an idea on deciding my bets and to establish basis for my own analysis. But I agree that most user posting on sports thread is doesn’t intend to discuss gambling but rather on sports alone to meet the signature post quota.

Is it time to remove the gambling post requirements of signature campaign? Ann thread mandatory post requirements is restricted before by admin for bounty signature campaign tho.

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I had locked the topic but had to unlock once I have visited the gambling discussion board. Are we having gambling discussion or sport discussion? Sometimes, I'm confused why the board isn't heavily moderated? The board is full of stupid discussion; yet the threads exist, don't get deleted.
One more World cup thread- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scaloni-a-time-traveler-and-some-lore-behind-argentina-champion-5430913
I wanted to create new thread but seems this thread fit the best.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on December 22, 2022, 12:25:33 PM

Yeah, i understand that the world cup comes every four years but that does not mean that we create so many threads for the same thing.

If we look at other sports like cricket, there is also world cup that comes after every four years, but no one creates a new thread for that tournament, Everything is discussed in the dedicated thread for cricket. The same could be followed in the next FIFA world cup.

I don't think there is a need for a long debate about the World Cup. The World Cup has ended a few days ago and I think some of the thread creators have also locked the thread although actually I'm still interested in discussing a few things. But it was a great step to prevent more spam, but now I think some rules can be enforced about duplicate topics.

What is the solution, that is actually the point that needs to be discussed and of course in my opinion it is not only about one particular event and only on the gambling board. Some of the other discussion boards are also worth noting, that's my point.

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Quote from: KingsDen on December 12, 2022, 07:36:22 AM

I noticed same thing but on a second thought I said the situation is manageable and normal.
This is World Cup and it happens once every 4yrs. Meanwhile every other major leagues are in pause for the world cup. It shouldn't bother us much because in less than few days the world cup will be over.
By or before January all those threads will be irrelevant. Since they aren't threads that will linger for years, I'll suggest the moderators ignore them and in few days or weeks time they are all buried in 4 to 5 pages.

Yeah, i understand that the world cup comes every four years but that does not mean that we create so many threads for the same thing.

If we look at other sports like cricket, there is also world cup that comes after every four years, but no one creates a new thread for that tournament, Everything is discussed in the dedicated thread for cricket. The same could be followed in the next FIFA world cup.

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Quote from: nurilham on December 19, 2022, 05:06:15 PM

I have reported them to the moderator, I assume other members also did it as well.

Anyway, this thread also needs to be locked, too. It is related to the world cup tournaments.

While I ain't making a case for mods and OPs as to why these world cup related threads haven't been locked yet, I think it has to do with the fact that the euphoria of the world cup is still on. We're just two days after the tournament and it will be premature to lock them and prevent members from sharing their takes, excitements, disappointments and surprises. We can begin to raise eyebrows by the time it's a week past the end of the tournament and the threads are still left unlocked. That's my take on this.

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Yunno what I observed?? Everyone in here wants to be at the top .... No one wants to follow others trend; everyone wants to create a trend themselves... Maybe it's done to get famous in here?? Or maybe it's done to increase post count? IDK
I see this whole irrelevancies every single time and it's dawn on me that I don't give a fuck though, cus if I'd do, I'd report -- only if the mods would give a listening ear.... because how one earth would someone make a thread that's already made?? Huh??
This is the highest level of spam I've seen so far and I'll plead with the MODS to take actions on that...

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 19, 2022, 08:29:42 AM

Now the world cup is over, so I hope some topic about that world cup gets locked soon by the OP or maybe by the moderators if anyone reports it.

Unfortunately, there are still some threads related to the world cup tournaments that aren't locked yet.
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fifa-2022-world-cup-5392720
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fifa-world-cup-2022-group-stage-highlights-5392585
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/africa-football-discussion-thread-current-discussion-world-cup-groups-5200931

I have reported them to the moderator, I assume other members also did it as well.

Anyway, this thread also needs to be locked, too. It is related to the world cup tournaments.

Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 19, 2022, 08:29:42 AM

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This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

I can think that some users will probably create their own topic just for this reason. So that's why some duplicate topics are fine, but of course I don't think it's necessary when the OP isn't restricting people from posting his self-moderated topics.

Agree. But it makes us have 2,3,4 or more active threads with the same topics. I don't know whether it is fine or not, but I think it doesn't look good to have some threads with titles that are almost the same. The board looks not tidy or seems unorganized well.

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Now the world cup is over, so I hope some topic about that world cup gets locked soon by the OP or maybe by the moderators if anyone reports it. About duplicate topics, it's certainly against the rules when another topic is still active, but I do remember about one warning every time I open a self-moderated topic.

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This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

I can think that some users will probably create their own topic just for this reason. So that's why some duplicate topics are fine, but of course I don't think it's necessary when the OP isn't restricting people from posting his self-moderated topics.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 17, 2022, 10:48:22 AM

I agree next month all these topics are locked and it will take another 4 years to have so many threads like this, but this is the only event where we have multiple threads there are other sporting events but the maximum is always two like in boxing and NBA finals I seldom post on these threads as it's not my interest but because this is the World's number 1 sporting events with billions of supporters all over the world and here in Bitcointalk, we could not have one discussion and topics.

FIFA World Cup 2022 ended at December 18 and I don't think waiting until next months for locking all topic discussing with World Cup, sure with gambling board have many option with several league from Serie A, English Primer League, La Liga until Ligue 1 and not matter when World Cup thread have locked and waiting another opportunity with World Cup discussing 4 years later.

Seems excited with FIFA World Cup topic because many of us have fans with football player from Messi and still have their country exist at World Cup final. I think they will try give opinion in FIFA World Cup 2022 thread to support their national team become the champion.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on December 12, 2022, 01:47:30 PM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on December 12, 2022, 07:26:27 AM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on December 12, 2022, 03:21:09 AM

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this too can also be seen as "just another World Cup 2022 topic".

Exactly! That's just it. In seeking to correct something thought to be wrong, this thread also technically joins "what is wrong".

C'mon! How come you compare this thread as "just another World Cup 2022 topic"? Is it a Fifa World Cup discussion thread; doesn't make sense at all. It's a thread in meta. If I shouldn't use it in the title, should I write in alien's language. Such logic!!

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 17, 2022, 10:48:22 AM

I agree next month all these topics are locked and it will take another 4 years to have so many threads like this, but this is the only event where we have multiple threads there are other sporting events but the maximum is always two like in boxing and NBA finals I seldom post on these threads as it's not my interest but because this is the World's number 1 sporting events with billions of supporters all over the world and here in Bitcointalk, we could not have one discussion and topics.

This event only comes after four years, and with the fascinating support and craziness, we only have three or four threads which is also temporary. All of the threads will be useless after tomorrow. We have countless unnecessary topics and threads in this forum, our mods will definitely be aware of the Worldcup threads, and they let them stay for the size of the popularity of this sport and fans around the world and in this forum also.

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Quote from: KingsDen on December 12, 2022, 07:36:22 AM

I noticed same thing but on a second thought I said the situation is manageable and normal.
This is World Cup and it happens once every 4yrs. Meanwhile every other major leagues are in pause for the world cup. It shouldn't bother us much because in less than few days the world cup will be over.
By or before January all those threads will be irrelevant. Since they aren't threads that will linger for years, I'll suggest the moderators ignore them and in few days or weeks time they are all buried in 4 to 5 pages.

I agree next month all these topics are locked and it will take another 4 years to have so many threads like this, but this is the only event where we have multiple threads there are other sporting events but the maximum is always two like in boxing and NBA finals I seldom post on these threads as it's not my interest but because this is the World's number 1 sporting events with billions of supporters all over the world and here in Bitcointalk, we could not have one discussion and topics.

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Reporting is the only way to stop the duplication of same content in multiple threads, but reducing it to one thread will not reduce the spam at all but it will be easier to report the spam posts because its all will be presented in one thread instead of multiple threads so the conclusion is break the report to moderator button.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 11, 2022, 02:37:25 AM

1. FIFA 2022 world cup
2. Qatar world cup Final Predictions
3. Sportsbet.io's FIFA World Cup 22 Prediction Pool Discussion thread
4. FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread
5. ⚽ FIFA World Cup 2022: Tournament Discussion Thread for Qatar 2022

The 4th thread was not at that topic it was last weekend I saw the name changed to FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread and the original topic of that thread is FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights and I was wondering what prompted the guy to change the topic and the topic has the same one with another topic. And that is bad. I also agree with the OP that the topics on football are too numerous. Some need to be deleted not only lock.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on December 12, 2022, 07:26:27 AM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on December 12, 2022, 03:21:09 AM

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this too can also be seen as "just another World Cup 2022 topic".

Exactly! That's just it. In seeking to correct something thought to be wrong, this thread also technically joins "what is wrong". There's likely another thread that will want to condemn this thread, that too will become a part of the fray. The list may be longer than this before the end of the world cup if care isn't taken. Nevertheless, the good thing about all this is that most of these threads, that's if not all, will lose their relevance and die a natural death once the world cup is over.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 12, 2022, 12:24:03 PM

I haven't reported them because I didn't find what should I write on the report. Should I write "duplicate topic"? There are a lot of duplicate topics; if I don't share the link, how will moderator find it duplicate? Why would they trust my words? I guess it's better to share links here.

The matter is so simple that there is no need to complicate it. There are threads that you consider to be problematic, there is a reporting system and there is also a reason that you have stated yourself.

Regarding the fact that there are more duplicate topics, do you think it is against the rules to report each one separately? I already did it in the way I described before, the topic that was opened first is linked in every report as a reference, and now everything is up to the moderators. Considering that everything ends in less than a week, the timing for reporting such things is not exactly ideal - so we should not be surprised if everything remains as it was for a few more days.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on December 12, 2022, 09:57:32 AM

Two page brings us 11 topics where I think 1 topic from hilariousandco, another topic from Cro2 team and another very general topic could serve it very well. Some people even created three or more topics LOL

But some still thinks having all these threads are okay because we have the world cup active. Does this change the rules? NO.
I haven't reported them because I didn't find what should I write on the report. Should I write "duplicate topic"? There are a lot of duplicate topics; if I don't share the link, how will moderator find it duplicate? Why would they trust my words? I guess it's better to share links here.

Getting back to self moderated threads; yeah, they serve the purposes. Only the first thread creator with self moderated should exist. At maximum, since some may not be comfortable with posting in self moderated thread; can create one more of them. But look how many we have. 11 on first 2 page.

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- 3rd topic is about Sportsbet.io's prediction pool, don't think you should touch that

There is another one by Cro2, I don't see it there. These two topics are serving some specific purpose and engaging members into discussion.

Interesting.
Do a browser search with the words "World cup".
When I did, I got 8 on the first page.

Qatar world cup Final Predictions
Animals predicting the outcome of world cup match
FIFA 2022 world cup I don't mind it's already discussed
Candidates for the WORLD CUP 2022 Winner
FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread already discussed
⚽ FIFA World Cup 2022: Tournament Discussion Thread for Qatar 2022 already discussed
Sportsbet.io's FIFA World Cup 22 Prediction Pool Discussion thread Serving some purpose
World cup highest goal scorers update discussion

3 from the second page.

World cup highest goal scorers update discussion
⚽⚽⚽ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk World Cup 2022 - discussion ⚽⚽⚽ cro2 team and this is another one which is serving a purpose
⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ World Cup Fantasy ⚽ 5k in rewards ⚽ Discussion thread

Two page brings us 11 topics where I think 1 topic from hilariousandco, another topic from Cro2 team and another very general topic could serve it very well. Some people even created three or more topics LOL

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I noticed same thing but on a second thought I said the situation is manageable and normal.
This is World Cup and it happens once every 4yrs. Meanwhile every other major leagues are in pause for the world cup. It shouldn't bother us much because in less than few days the world cup will be over.
By or before January all those threads will be irrelevant. Since they aren't threads that will linger for years, I'll suggest the moderators ignore them and in few days or weeks time they are all buried in 4 to 5 pages.

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