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Topic: Some one is sending me BTC 0.00000001 , Why? - page 6. (Read 6775 times)

legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
September 25, 2014, 03:58:29 AM
#28
There is no way you can refuse a input to your wallet.
When a transaction is confirmed then is it final.


Okay, I realize that: but as long as someone was to catch these stupid spams before they confirm, wouldn't it be possible to somehow CANCEL them this way...?

What else would YOU propose as a method to stop this bullshit, one-satoshi spam-dust crap? Huh

Does it really seem "right" to you, that anyone can just push anything they like into your wallet, against your will?

This whole situation still seems, to me, like a small flaw in bitcoin's overall design... which should be fixed (or at least improved somewhat).

I do agree with you that the unconfirmed dust in your wallet is a bit annoying.

The technical part of the problem
was addressed in Bitcoin Core 0.9.0 (if I remember right).
With older version of the core, could the unconfirmed input (the dust we talk about) be used in your current output, and that was a problem in the "bitcoin's overall design", since your output would never be confirmed because the "dust" was never confirmed.

In the new core is only confirmed input allowed in the outputs.
Therefor are we left with a somewhat cosmetic problem, the average user should really not be concern about the blockchain, he/she should be concern about the ballance (confirmed balance).
The unconfirmed input will eventually be dropped and the "dust" will go away.
If the input is so lucky to be confirmed, then will you have received one free satoshi (free money yay!).

I have full understanding about the people that have OCD problems with having 1.00000001 BTC in their wallet, but from a logical point of view is 1.00000001 BTC better to have than 1 BTC.

The important thing is that the "dust" does not prevent you for receiving and transmit "true" transaction.
hero member
Activity: 608
Merit: 509
September 25, 2014, 03:00:35 AM
#27
There is no way you can refuse a input to your wallet.
When a transaction is confirmed then is it final.


Okay, I realize that: but as long as someone was to catch these stupid spams before they confirm, wouldn't it be possible to somehow CANCEL them this way...?

What else would YOU propose as a method to stop this bullshit, one-satoshi spam-dust crap? Huh

Does it really seem "right" to you, that anyone can just push anything they like into your wallet, against your will?

This whole situation still seems, to me, like a small flaw in bitcoin's overall design... which should be fixed (or at least improved somewhat).
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
September 25, 2014, 02:51:29 AM
#26
This is nothing but just a method of advertising. You have no need to be tense. I think your wallet is safe.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
September 25, 2014, 02:13:54 AM
#25

I dunno what a solution to this might be, but seems to me that bitcoin itself needs to have some feature for the receiver of money to actively REFUSE it, sometimes, if he doesn't want it!!


There is no way you can refuse a input to your wallet.
When a transaction is confirmed then is it final.

hero member
Activity: 608
Merit: 509
September 25, 2014, 02:01:51 AM
#24
Brilliant idea! I suggest we express our concern to the Bitcoin Foundation since a few of their members are directly involved in the maintanence of the Bitcoin-Qt app that most all of us use.


Thanks... but I'd say it's just kinda obvious, isn't it?  Not 'brilliant' LOL

Still not sure if there'd be some downside or disadvantage to this however. Have to tread lightly when it comes to changing bitcoin!

And, actually, now that I think of it more, seems to me that maybe this doesn't have to be a feature of the core bitcoin software but rather just a function of the particular WALLET application.

What I mean is, there actually already DOES appear to be an available function for this in bitcoin itself, i.e. whatever command or function is called when these transactions sometimes, eventually, "time out" and are reversed and disappear from the wallet history...? 

IF the wallet software could just have a feature to instantly trigger THAT somehow (maybe hidden in some 'advanced' tab) perhaps that'd be enough?

Any wallet programmers out there listening? Hello....? blockchain.info or Electrum guys or ? Huh
hero member
Activity: 782
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2014, 08:49:10 PM
#23
Some is sending me 0.00000001 BTC from 1LaEZpke8tv18YrsrVbg1ZDxkwAogM7AdU
https://blockchain.info/address/1LaEZpke8tv18YrsrVbg1ZDxkwAogM7AdU
Is anyone trying to hack my wallet?


It's akind of a stupid and cheap advertisement, spamming lots of addresses, I think I've got them too.
hero member
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Merit: 500
R.I.P Silk Road 1.0
September 24, 2014, 06:28:10 PM
#22
Apparently what these fuckwits are doing is watching all the bitcoin transactions as they stream out over the blockchain, picking up the (working) addresses and then sending their stupid spam to 'em in 0.000000001 transactions.

It's supremely annoying to me just 'cuz in my main wallets I try to keep WHOLE bitcoins in balance, only moving money into a "working" wallet for sending and receiving lesser amounts.  This helps me keep track of actual balances in my head, so I'll notice if something's amiss right away.

But now that's all cluttered up with this fucking SPAM DUST, and sometimes these transactions don't confirm so the single satoshi eventually disappears BUT sometimes apparently the transaction DOES confirm, so then that satoshi is permanent.

I dunno what a solution to this might be, but seems to me that bitcoin itself needs to have some feature for the receiver of money to actively REFUSE it, sometimes, if he doesn't want it!!

The way it is right now, anyone can "force their will" on you, pushing info (yes, even if it is "money") into your wallet, and you can't do a damn thing about it??

That kind of sucks  Angry

But I'm not sure how to go about suggesting new features for bitcoin: anyone know?

Also what do y'all think might be the possible implications of a feature like this, i.e. to actively REFUSE to receive a transaction?

Any apparent downside, like could there be some way that this might possibly be mis-used by bad guys to steal money out of people's wallets???

Ideas???


Brilliant idea! I suggest we express our concern to the Bitcoin Foundation since a few of their members are directly involved in the maintanence of the Bitcoin-Qt app that most all of us use.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
September 24, 2014, 06:28:04 PM
#21
I got the spam 0.0001 BTC from one of the ponzi service recently, much better than the one satoshi I got as well the other day. It is just advertisement spam, at least I used the 0.0001 for a fee already.

laxotrade right?
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1014
September 24, 2014, 06:23:16 PM
#20
This should be taken care of, allowing text in bitcoin transaction was a bad idea, now we have such spam
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
R.I.P Silk Road 1.0
September 24, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
#19
You have a secret admirer.  Wink
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
September 24, 2014, 06:14:06 PM
#18
These blockchain spam advertisements seem to be getting more common Roll Eyes
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
September 24, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
#17
I got the spam 0.0001 BTC from one of the ponzi service recently, much better than the one satoshi I got as well the other day. It is just advertisement spam, at least I used the 0.0001 for a fee already.
full member
Activity: 434
Merit: 105
September 24, 2014, 06:00:26 PM
#16
wait and see, this spam you are cursing now could very well be the minimal transaction in the not so distant future. You could be getting spammed to the riches.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
September 24, 2014, 04:55:03 PM
#15
How can this be an effective advertising strategy. Even if I needed their services, I sure as hell wouldn't use them now.

The TX id contain a certain sequence of number which will sync with your brain wave pattern.
In your sleep will this sequence be played as "BtcSmart", and when you wake then will you have an urge to use their services
, and you don't even know why.

(jk)


You guys are killing me xD

legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
September 24, 2014, 04:21:55 PM
#14
How can this be an effective advertising strategy. Even if I needed their services, I sure as hell wouldn't use them now.

The TX id contain a certain sequence of number which will sync with your brain wave pattern.
In your sleep will this sequence be played as "BtcSmart", and when you wake then will you have an urge to use their services, and you don't even know why.

(jk)
sr. member
Activity: 381
Merit: 250
September 24, 2014, 04:18:03 PM
#13
Some is sending me 0.00000001 BTC from 1LaEZpke8tv18YrsrVbg1ZDxkwAogM7AdU
https://blockchain.info/address/1LaEZpke8tv18YrsrVbg1ZDxkwAogM7AdU
Is anyone trying to hack my wallet?


No one is trying to hack you, just like everyone has said already: It is advertising, search for Laxotrade they also have been spamming people with Dust for free advertisements. "Recently"
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
September 24, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
#12
This is a real pain in the ass since I'm OCD about keeping whole-BTC wallet balances.

How can this be an effective advertising strategy. Even if I needed their services, I sure as hell wouldn't use them now.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
September 24, 2014, 04:03:10 PM
#11
Question should be; how did they get your address?
hero member
Activity: 608
Merit: 509
September 24, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
#10
Apparently what these fuckwits are doing is watching all the bitcoin transactions as they stream out over the blockchain, picking up the (working) addresses and then sending their stupid spam to 'em in 0.000000001 transactions.

It's supremely annoying to me just 'cuz in my main wallets I try to keep WHOLE bitcoins in balance, only moving money into a "working" wallet for sending and receiving lesser amounts.  This helps me keep track of actual balances in my head, so I'll notice if something's amiss right away.

But now that's all cluttered up with this fucking SPAM DUST, and sometimes these transactions don't confirm so the single satoshi eventually disappears BUT sometimes apparently the transaction DOES confirm, so then that satoshi is permanent.

I dunno what a solution to this might be, but seems to me that bitcoin itself needs to have some feature for the receiver of money to actively REFUSE it, sometimes, if he doesn't want it!!

The way it is right now, anyone can "force their will" on you, pushing info (yes, even if it is "money") into your wallet, and you can't do a damn thing about it??

That kind of sucks  Angry

But I'm not sure how to go about suggesting new features for bitcoin: anyone know?

Also what do y'all think might be the possible implications of a feature like this, i.e. to actively REFUSE to receive a transaction?

Any apparent downside, like could there be some way that this might possibly be mis-used by bad guys to steal money out of people's wallets???

Ideas???
TSE
newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
September 24, 2014, 03:19:29 PM
#9
got 2 satoshis now within an hour. Keep on the hard work u make me ritch Wink Even my primedice account got these 0.00000001 payments. Not normal isnt it
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