Topic: Someone please make a steem clone - page 10. (Read 14356 times)

As well, upvoting needs to be different than liking the argument of a blog post:


I think thinking every post needs a poll (e.g. Agree/Disagree) in addition to an upvoting button for relevance. The upvoting button should be "I want to read more content of this quality, topic, and readership coterie".

The big picture:

On security of crypto-currency transactions:


Btw, I think this needs to go in another blog post, because I don't think laymen (and the world outside of Steem's current readership) yet understand that the main problem(s) of crypto-currency security/theft have been conceptually solved (including my DEX design in that to stop the theft from centralized exchanges).

Well decent is a little like steam..

VESTs are increasing so fast that you can power down and increase your VESTs at the same time. As jl777 put it: have your cake and eat it too.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@jl777/how-to-have-your-cake-and-eat-it-to-or-how-you-can-have-your-sp-increase-even-while-you-are-powering-down

[1] Some of you may remember I distributed $5000+ in charity provided by vokain and rpietila (mostly vokain) to victims of typhoon Yolanda and specifically documented with photos several examples of the new roofs that were constructed. Some where I still have all the Palawan Padala receipts documenting that.

I'd mention the name I have already, but the .com is $3000+ and I don't want to spend that out of my limited cash reserve unless I am very close to launch. I've got the .org, .net, .co, and .us already. After sleeping on the name choice I have finalized on, I am liking it more and more. It is really great because it captures the esteem concept while also being more general and appropriate to upvoting and sharing on all media types, including music, etc..

I moved away from my "jambox" or use of the term "jammin". I do have one alternative name not "fanjam" (which is also quite good! but suffers from the copycat problem) with the term "jam" in it. But I am nearly certain everyone will like my main choice.

Btw, I am contemplating entirely eliminating downvoting.

I guess I will go ahead and share the name I was originally thinking of using but even though it was catchy, I realized quickly that is was entirely the wrong meaning (except perhaps for the music content I am planning to go after later):

fanjam (note the .com is in use but I think not seriously)

Please do not criticize me for that name, as I did not continue with it. I registered the .us for $1 only while I gave myself more time to catch up on other duties (and also because I was having some brain fog due to my illness and put it on back burner until that abated) then returned to it and realized it was not the right meaning even though my gf and others liked it as very catchy and inducing.

Note the Jambox name was originally intended to focus on music sharing and after that apps in general (starting with games). So the "box" was your mobile device. It was all supposed to be in there. But Steem's example is that user created content is lower hanging fruit, so needed to move entirely away from "box" or confined to mobile devices. I still want to go after the music and apps later.

My long range goal is to entirely replace the Android and iOS APIs and app developers will program to a new API which abstracts those. We have these sort of platforms already, but not within an ecosystem which is larger than Android and iOS. I am annoyed at the bastardization of my mobile device by Google and Samsung. Fucking thing updates and installs shit without my permission and basically I am no longer in control of my device! (Yeah I know I heard I need to buy a Nexus or other brand, but I can't find here in Philippines and/or too expensive for me at this time, and besides I like to use mainstream stuff so I can see the problems that need to be solved for the masses)

I am thinking really big. I want to create a new programming language that compiles to JavaScript. Etc.

But we usually crawl before we walk before we sprint.

I am intending to replace the web browser also (unify it with mobile and the concept of an OS). Big dreams but I don't need to get all the way there in order to declare success. I will bite it off in morsels of lowest hanging fruit first. And have to observe my health also (which has been getting sometimes very good and very encouraging).

I (the goals) need capital to fund and motivate those big plans. Not just monetary capital but also the network effects capital of ideas and ecosystems. And I hope to get the capital I need from doing this first stage which is to compete with Steem. Or will see if that ends up causing myself and/or my goals to become folded into the Steem ecosystem instead.

Btw, if you are planning to make a clone, do not ask for names (publicly) or say names out loud for obvious reasons.

Well that post came about because of research I was doing for the coding I was doing. I wasn't planning to blog, it just fell out into my lap. (Edit: and I needed to write that down any way, so better to put the content on a blockchain)

I really needed some money cushion, because I have a negative net worth, no income, and the cash I have isn't even mine and that had fallen to $9000 with roughly ($350+$80+$100+$256+$300+$100+$150+$100+50=) $1586 monthly burn rate not including any gadgets or techie expenses (such as domain registrations, etc). Oh that doesn't exclude the $250 I pay every 6 months to renew tourist visa and soon I will have to fly out of the country to renew so another large expense, etc, etc.

On the positive side I can work full time on this work I am talking about herein (actually double-time as I am exceeding 16 hours daily when my health cooperates).

Btw, thanks smooth and the others who upvoted that. I feel sort of guilty about it since I want to try to compete or improve Steem via competing. But somehow it will workout for the best I presume. After watching today the video of Dan and Ned (linked upthread), they seem like nice guys to me in the video. I got a different impression of Dan in the past from written or audio communication when I can't see his face. (Edit: I think also he was very stressed out with the former Bitshares governance debacle)

Bottom line is it should all work out for the best. Just need to remain productive and try to do work that benefits the ecosystem.

Btw, on further thought I didn't like the 6 letter domain name I had selected, because although everyone liked it, it had the wrong connotation. It was causing people to think of stalking their favorite artists. So I lost another several hours trying to think of a more appropriate name that is also really catchy. I was lucky to think of one which I think is better than Steemit. And it is 6 letters. So that was a nice accomplishment also for today, but I am bit disappointed that I didn't complete my module.js code today. I put two small JS code fragments up on my Github yesterday. Hopefully my coding will accelerate from now.

if the bottom is $2500; not bad for a days work

That made it to the (bottom of the) front page. Nice work. Hard to compete with boobs though.

I'll await more details on Postbase before deciding whether to pursue private communication. Good luck with your progress. I wondering if you're part-time while also still holding down your day job.

My LinkedIn account is https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmenh. Looks like I registered my domain about a month before you registered yours, I also registered the bitcointalk username "postbase" in June.

Why I think the Steem Dollars are pointless:

Economic and algorithmic details are missing. Are you going to release a detailed white paper before ICO? Are you going to ICO vaporware?

Shouldn't you at least have a rudimentary system running and very detailed white paper before doing an ICO?

I have to decide whether to join you or compete with you, so I need to see the details.

What is your LinkedIn account Carmey Harvey?

You apparently thought of postbase, before I registered peerbase (for me the idea comes from the amigobase.com domain I held years ago). I have veered away from that *base concept for a name, because I don't think it appeals emotionally to the masses and it isn't that brandable because there can exist so many *base copycats. Also many people think of "post office" or a pole in the ground when they see the word post, not the technical meaning to post something online. Also I don't think the concept of Steem is going to remain confined to posting content, but will widen into more a diverse set. Edit: but is not a horrible name. It is perhaps adequate.

I have been working on a similar project that I was planning to announce later this month, but since I keep seeing this thread popup I decided to make the announcement a little earlier. The project is called Postbase ( www.postbase.co) Postbase is a decentralized social bookmarking and funding platform that groups content in a similar fashion to Reddit. I'm putting together a more detailed announcement to post under Announcements.

I agree the design creates unnecessary confusion, because I think I've figured out how to achieve the same goals and restructured it so it is more straight forward and have clearer incentives for all involved parties (e.g. minnows, professional bloggers, medium and long-term investors, etc).

This and the voting relevance algorithm are the two of the areas where I think could provide significant innovation to Steem.

Btw, please note that I think I am transitioning to a plan wherein I will try to innovate and then I will also keep open the possibility that if Steem is winning in the market, then I can retain the option to be lured by them to try to assist in bringing my innovations to Steem. Note some of my innovations would perhaps be resisted by Steem's vested interests, thus it is necessary for me to demonstrate my innovations in the market in order to force a competitive outcome. So I really need to go compete in order to innovate Steem either from the outside or within Steem, which ever way it ends of working out in the market.

I am trying to work myself to earning a position of importance in this genre of blockchain development.


They are building a community that appeals to their community albeit I think the relevance targeting to users could be innovated in order to better diversify to the masses.

If you deny they are onboarding significant members of the crypto community and its first degree of relations, then you are not being objective in spite of partial validity of your concern.


For example, I am finding relevant discussion of Steemit's design and marketing factors.

I agree the firehouse is spraying a lot of water where it probably isn't more optimally targeted, but it isn't a total failure.

I elaborated on why the above may be very important.

They are apparently implementing tipping model where presumably the funds are taken from the tipper's wallet:


Tipping (from the users' wallets) doesn't work due to the cognitive load it places on the users' frequent activity as explained in the following resources:

http://hackingdistributed.com/2014/12/17/changetip-must-die/



Steem's unique feature is that it charges the cost of tipping (rewards) to everyone via debasement of the money supply, so that users don't really have to think about how much or whether they should tip. This is what makes it work, where all others have failed. If you don't understand this, then you won't understand why the concept of Steem is very important.

Make sure you watch this:

https://youtu.be/rkQ7b-u8_6g?t=489  (Sourced from here)

I also see that Newbium runs on the Ethereum and Nxt blockchains, so it won't be able to scale the content that Steem is.

There already is some project close to Steem being developped, named Newbium https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-newb-the-crypto-markets-dirty-little-secret-1418497

Newbium is different to Steem that it focus on crypto, proposing tools to follow currencies in real time.

It goes the same way as Steem, with rewarding user posting content, there is currently a posting bounty occuring.

I have some coins in this project, and believe it can go far, considering the project is promising, and that Newbium team's working good and is reactive.

If some people wanna go in, i let you know that NEWB_ETH tokens will be launched on an exchange relatively soon (they've been distributed recently), and that you can already buy NEWB_NXT tokens on c-cex.

https://coins.newbium.com/ & http://newbium.com/