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July 28, 2016, 10:26:39 PM
#30
Can anyone give me some serious help/feedback on the naming?
legendary
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July 28, 2016, 10:24:49 PM
#29
Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.

I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help?

I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com".

Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love).

Women are for sale always in every day life (and I am not trying to be a sexist jerk by agreeing with you) if the offered amount is high enough (then again so are men), but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks).

Hamlet figured it out:

"I have heard of your paintings too, well enough. God has given you one face and you make yourselves another. You jig and amble, and you lisp, you nickname God’s creatures and make your wantonness your ignorance."

Though I'm not sure why Hamlet's so mad for women gaming men, when he's gaming Shakespeare throughout the play (not going to go further into Bloom's theory, which I mostly agree with), but as far as a name.....

Steemit might be a cross of steam and reddit, so maybe cross facebook and imgur for imbook or facegur?

*those names aren't actual suggestions, but what I would suggest is locking the intropage, so it can permanently earn rewards and serve as a base from which you can network traffic out and in.

Men are gaming women also. And men are also for sale at the right price. I don't really get the relevance.

Steam is a gaming platform. Reddit is a discussion site. Steemit seems to be neither of those.

Steam delivers content, reddit forums--so the link is there.

As for men who hustle--they're a rare breed and women love/hate them for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Yv6J6Vzyw

This is sparknote version, the film Alphie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375173/ would be the longer course, though it doesn't nail the darker aspects as well as Salvat's video. But back on topic....

Name? Anything involving sex is too obvious, unless you are creating a decentralized porn, cam, escort site that is resistant to corporate/government interest--as I'm sure they won't want their sacred cow delving into unholy places.

Why is no one building this?

Sexit would be direct and easy to remember name.
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July 28, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
#28
Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase


I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.

I think both names are terible, you need something simple like "peerIt".

Thanks for the feedback.

Peerit and what is 'it' that is being peered? And in what way peered? Doesn't seem to have any meaning. Soon there will be so many *it copycats that it won't even stand out any more. blogit, vibeit, postit, tackit, lickit, pokeit, humpit, etc..  (<--- click my link for a laugh)

The word 'it' is not brandable.

Four more ideas (variants) along that same theme:

peertrove
wetrove
peerstash
webrary
sr. member
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July 28, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
#27
Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.

I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help?

I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com".

Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love).

Women are for sale always in every day life (and I am not trying to be a sexist jerk by agreeing with you) if the offered amount is high enough (then again so are men), but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks).

Hamlet figured it out:

"I have heard of your paintings too, well enough. God has given you one face and you make yourselves another. You jig and amble, and you lisp, you nickname God’s creatures and make your wantonness your ignorance."

Though I'm not sure why Hamlet's so mad for women gaming men, when he's gaming Shakespeare throughout the play (not going to go further into Bloom's theory, which I mostly agree with), but as far as a name.....

Steemit might be a cross of steam and reddit, so maybe cross facebook and imgur for imbook or facegur?

*those names aren't actual suggestions, but what I would suggest is locking the intropage, so it can permanently earn rewards and serve as a base from which you can network traffic out and in.

Men are gaming women also. And men are also for sale at the right price. I don't really get the relevance.

Steam is a gaming platform. Reddit is a discussion site. Steemit seems to be neither of those.
legendary
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July 28, 2016, 09:40:21 PM
#26
Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.

I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help?

I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com".

Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love).

Women are for sale always in every day life, but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks).

Hamlet figured it out:

"I have heard of your paintings too, well enough. God has given you one face and you make yourselves another. You jig and amble, and you lisp, you nickname God’s creatures and make your wantonness your ignorance."

Though I'm not sure why Hamlet's so mad for women gaming men, when he's gaming Shakespeare throughout the play (not going to go further into Bloom's theory, which I mostly agree with), but as far as a name.....

Steemit might be a cross of steam and reddit, so maybe cross facebook and imgur for imbook or facegur?

*those names aren't actual suggestions, but what I would suggest is locking the intropage, so it can permanently earn rewards and serve as a base from which you can network traffic out and in.


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July 28, 2016, 09:37:12 PM
#25
Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.

I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help?

I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com".

Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love).

Women are for sale always in every day life (and I am not trying to be a sexist jerk by agreeing with you) if the offered amount is high enough (then again so are men), but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks).

Note your point is very valid as a potential criticism of my plan to remove the quadratic reward (and make it linear). But with the linear reward, then more women can get a few bucks, than a few women gettings $1000s.

Also another key point is that I am wanting to build something that is also attractive to serious content creators. So that is another reason to have a different naming. I will have a monetization feature for them which Steem does not have (and where the big rewards can still come from).
legendary
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July 28, 2016, 09:25:33 PM
#24
Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.
sr. member
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July 28, 2016, 09:20:35 PM
#23
How many people really care about what steemit means?

My limited research seems to indicate the 3 inspirations I enumerated are what inspired female Steemians to join:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15730959

I just think that the best attribute/quality of a name is to be easy to pronounce, it doesn't necessary have to mean anything, although it could be an added bonus if it did. Just my random thoughts...

I agree first priority is catchy name and easy to pronounce. Otherwise recall and viral spread may suffer.

I seem to want to pronounce peerbrary as "peer berry". I have no problem pronouncing peerbase. They aren't super catchy, but at least in my mind (as of now and that might change) peerbrary is meaningful, unique, and probably recallable if they get the connection to peer + library.

Instead of librarians, we can say peerbrarians.

Edit: I thought of catchier names but they don't have appropriate meaning, such as peerjam and jambox. Jambox was for app focused content especially games, but I've decided it would be better to compete with Steem.


Btw, I own the domains for snapcash, but I've decided to go compete with Steem instead of launch under that name. (this is just a rebuttal to generalizethis who said I can't think of a catchy name)
sr. member
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July 28, 2016, 08:51:03 PM
#22
I would prefer one based more on pictures and videos, like Instagram, instead of long winded justifications and rants.

I agree, videos & images are quicker to produce than blogs, and much more likely to be produced & shared by a regular person. Not everyone can write well but everyone can take a photo or video and upload it. Everyone wants their 15 minutes ...

As for a name, "FAMOUS", or some cool alternative spelling

edit: "Paparazzi" or an alternative spelling

Afaics, the primary reason for people to join Steemit, has nothing to do with shallow delusions of being famous on a social network.

And I don't see the need to relegate it to one genre of content. I do think users should be able to filter by content type and other sub-community attributes (e.g. tags, follows, etc). Perhaps you mean to prioritize a different genre of content as the first priority feature set?
legendary
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July 28, 2016, 08:49:17 PM
#21
How many people really care about what steemit means? I just think that the best attribute/quality of a name is to be easy to pronounce, it doesn't necessary have to mean anything, although it could be an added bonus if it did. Just my random thoughts...

sr. member
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July 28, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
#20
Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase

I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.

I think both names are terible, you need something simple like "peerIt".

Thanks for the feedback.

Peerit and what is 'it' that is being peered? And in what way peered? Doesn't seem to have any meaning. Soon there will be so many *it copycats that it won't even stand out any more. blogit, vibeit, postit, tackit, lickit, pokeit, humpit, etc..  (<--- click my link for a laugh)

The word 'it' is not brandable.

Ok, noone owns the content and users own the site, but who develops and for how long? with what funds? Do you expect "volunteers" to do the hard work? I see no long term potential/survivability without some serious money paying for development.

There are multiple ways to fund ongoing development of the open source blockchain. And I am not thinking primarily of volunteerism.
legendary
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July 28, 2016, 08:30:21 PM
#19
Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase

I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.

I think both names are terible, you need something simple like "peerIt".

Ok, noone owns the content and users own the site, but who develops and for how long? with what funds? Do you expect "volunteers" to do the hard work? I see no long term potential/survivability without some serious money paying for development.
 
sr. member
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July 28, 2016, 08:14:05 PM
#18
Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase

I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.

Although there are some aspects of the above names I don't think are ideal (e.g. they don't really illicit an emotional reaction, unless one is really excited about the concept they intend), I do like that they seem (for me at least) to be congruent with the thought of investing long-term in building a trove of content and media that is owned collectively by no one.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.
hero member
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July 28, 2016, 02:12:20 AM
#17
I would prefer one based more on pictures and videos, like Instagram, instead of long winded justifications and rants.

I agree, videos & images are quicker to produce than blogs, and much more likely to be produced & shared by a regular person. Not everyone can write well but everyone can take a photo or video and upload it. Everyone wants their 15 minutes ...

As for a name, "FAMOUS", or some cool alternative spelling

edit: "Paparazzi" or an alternative spelling
sr. member
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July 28, 2016, 01:56:07 AM
#16
Matter of time, they are cloning everything these days... and forking
legendary
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July 28, 2016, 01:40:47 AM
#15
generalizethis, watch and learn.

There are fundamental flaws in Steem.

enumerate:

*my point [in other thread?] was you might have greater flaws in the decentralized version (it would have to be much more sophisticated than openbazzar to keep everything in check).

I believe there are economic flaws in Steemit that will cause it to collapse. I want to have something ready when it does.

It isn't just about decentralization, nor any one thing. I see several huge flaws in Steem that I think (my opinion) will prevent it from accomplishing what you think it is going to accomplish.

We will see who is correct. I am not omniscient and neither are you. Nature provides competition so that the outcome is resilient. Nature rarely puts all its eggs in one egg. One shot miracles are rare beasts.

There are many issues you are not aware of. And I am not going to explain all my thoughts now, any more than I already did in the numerous posts over the past few days. That is enough talk for now.

I'd like to read what others think about naming and concepts such as what users need and want.

That's fair enough (reading strategy as a black-swan reverse stock split).
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July 28, 2016, 01:33:33 AM
#14
generalizethis, watch and learn.

There are fundamental flaws in Steem.

enumerate:

*my point [in other thread?] was you might have greater flaws in the decentralized version (it would have to be much more sophisticated than openbazzar to keep everything in check).

I believe there are economic flaws in Steemit that will cause it to collapse. I want to have something ready when it does.

It isn't just about decentralization, nor any one thing. I see several huge flaws in Steem that I think (my opinion) will prevent it from accomplishing what you think it is going to accomplish.

We will see who is correct. I am not omniscient and neither are you. Nature provides competition so that the outcome is resilient. Nature rarely puts all its eggs in one egg. One shot miracles are rare beasts.

There are many issues you are not aware of. And I am not going to explain all my thoughts now, any more than I already did in the numerous posts over the past few days. That is enough talk for now.

I'd like to read what others think about naming and concepts such as what users need and want.
legendary
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July 28, 2016, 01:09:08 AM
#13
generalizethis, watch and learn.

There are fundamental flaws in Steem.

enumerate:

*my point [in other thread?] was you might have greater flaws in the decentralized version (it would have to be much more sophisticated than openbazzar to keep everything in check).
sr. member
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July 28, 2016, 01:02:05 AM
#12
BOOBS!

I pick BOOBS to be the name of the new social media platform.

BOOB is the monetary unit ticker for the underlying coin equity in the system.

BooBucks will be the name for STEEM DOLLARS

Haha. That might work if only targeting young male nerds.
sr. member
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July 28, 2016, 12:56:07 AM
#11
generalizethis, watch and learn.

There are fundamental flaws in Steem.
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