South Carolina church shooting: Nine die in Charleston 'hate crime' - page 2.

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Quote from: usairx on June 20, 2015, 01:02:23 PM

“You rape our women and you’re taking over our country — and you have to go,” the terrorist said, according to a survivor.
Shooter was openly racist.

That is evident, from the images currently circulating in the social media. One of the images show him wearing a black-colored jacket, with the flags of the apartheid-era South Africa and that of Rhodesia (currently known as Zimbabwe) under white rule pinned on to them. He was a sympathizer of the apartheid regime, and he was open about his political views.

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RIP Mommy

Many times more people die due to vehicles (whether accidental or criminal) than GSWs (whether accidental or criminal). The right to effective self-defense tool use is already infringed - if it was infringed as much as the freedom of movement tool use, the death toll would go up even further. But that's a feature, not a bug, to the evil pricks advocating infringement of any/all victimless civil liberties.

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Images found with the screed show suspected Charleston church shooter posing with the Confederate flag and symbols of white supremacy.
In one image, the suspected gunman is posed on the beach wearing the same clothes he is seen wearing on surveillance footage as he entered the church on Wednesday. It is unclear if this image was taken the same day as the shooting, but if so, it would show that Roof took time to visit the beach, inscribe the racist symbol 1488 in the sand and photograph himself before allegedly traveling to Charleston.

http://news.yahoo.com/suspected-killer-dylann-roof-s-racist-manifesto-surfaces-154324556.html

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“You rape our women and you’re taking over our country — and you have to go,” the terrorist said, according to a survivor.
Shooter was openly racist.

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http://worldtruth.tv/what-you-missed-because-of-the-church-shooting/ i also found this interesting since it was happening supposobly at same exact time fram..... not sure though but seems reliable source, and i just dont trust the govt

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Quote from: Beliathon on June 20, 2015, 10:07:52 AM

Quote from: the joint on June 20, 2015, 09:53:29 AM

I'd be interested to know what you think about issue, in your own words, and without framing the issue in an infantile false dichotomy.

What, did you really think I linked material that opposes my own opinion on the matter? Not too fuckin' bright bro.

Why would I type something which has already been typed? This isn't the middle ages, we're not transcribing ancient texts for preservation here guys. This is the internet.

Still, I'll humor you as a show of good faith. Let's treat guns and cars the same!

-Gun licenses that prove competency
-Gun registration
-Mandatory gun insurance
-Education for misdemeanor offenses
-Suspension of gun license for multiple offenses
-Severe jail time for weapons used while under the influence of alcohol (or other drugs)

Ahh, I see where this is going. I'm not responding to any more of your posts on this issue.

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Quote from: Beliathon on June 20, 2015, 10:07:52 AM

Quote from: the joint on June 20, 2015, 09:53:29 AM

I'd be interested to know what you think about issue, in your own words, and without framing the issue in an infantile false dichotomy.

What, did you really think I linked material that opposes my own opinion on the matter? Not too fuckin' bright bro.

Why would I type something which has already been typed? This isn't the middle ages, we're not transcribing ancient texts for preservation here guys. This is the internet.

Still, I'll humor you as a show of good faith.[/size] Let's treat guns and cars the same!

-Gun licenses that prove competency
-Gun registration
-Mandatory gun insurance
-Education for misdemeanor offenses
-Suspension of gun license for multiple offenses
-Severe jail time for weapons used while under the influence of alcohol (or other drugs)

Critical thought is clearly for cavemen. Now you are just retyping things that were in the picture. That is not what we are challenging you to do. We are challenging you to have your own thought process instead of operating no differently than a parrot and repeating things other people said without examination.

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Quote from: the joint on June 20, 2015, 09:53:29 AM

I'd be interested to know what you think about issue, in your own words, and without framing the issue in an infantile false dichotomy.

What, did you really think I linked material that opposes my own opinion on the matter? Not too fuckin' bright bro.

Why would I type something which has already been typed? This isn't the middle ages, we're not transcribing ancient texts for preservation here guys. This is the internet.

Still, I'll humor you as a show of good faith. Let's treat guns and cars the same!

-Gun licenses that prove competency
-Gun registration
-Mandatory gun insurance
-Education for misdemeanor offenses
-Suspension of gun license for multiple offenses
-Severe jail time for weapons used while under the influence of alcohol (or other drugs)

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2015, 06:28:03 AM

Quote from: jayce on June 20, 2015, 02:04:19 AM

It would be a great if you give the link of the news, since the incident has attracted world people and me to know more about it. I still don't get a complete reason why he did that, maybe he is hiding something as the main motive.

The details are still emerging, but it seems that he suffered from mental illness for quite a long time.

http://www.newsmax.com/Health/Brain-Health/charleston-shooting-dylann-roof/2015/06/19/id/651353/

And regarding the motive, I believe that it is clear now. He told the victims himself that he was doing it, as a retaliation for rape of white women by black men. And the following article makes it clear that he was a neo-Nazi:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/dylann-roof-and-a-night-of-hate-in-charleston

That's bad, there are no safe place for us outside anymore. This tragedy can make people be afraid to go church, mosque, etc. Do we need to make a security check in every churches gate, to make sure there are no people that bring dangerous thing inside? Maybe it's sound ridiculous and hard to do that.

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Quote from: Beliathon on June 20, 2015, 09:44:54 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on June 20, 2015, 09:37:37 AM

And what is stopping that same individual from just plowing that car into a bunch of people?

I've seen your posts in the gun control thread, too. Nice to know you've thought this one out for yourself Roll Eyes

I'd be interested to know what you think about issue, in your own words, and without framing the issue in an infantile false dichotomy.

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Quote from: Beliathon on June 20, 2015, 09:44:54 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on June 20, 2015, 09:37:37 AM

And what is stopping that same individual from just plowing that car into a bunch of people?

pictures

More pictures. Very nice. Even more proof you don't have capability for individual thought and critical reasoning. To top it off they aren't even new pictures, just the same thing repeating over and over again like a parrot. Sorry but I don't take advice from parrots.

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Quote from: Beliathon on June 20, 2015, 09:44:54 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on June 20, 2015, 09:37:37 AM

And what is stopping that same individual from just plowing that car into a bunch of people?

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Quote from: Beliathon on June 20, 2015, 08:47:02 AM

Selling guns is much too profitable, mental healthcare far too expensive, for the corpo-political decision-maker caste to care that a bunch of random Americans will be slain in a shooting every so often.

After all, it's not like important people ever find themselves in the line of fire in these random attacks. No, their world is the safety and comfort skyscrapers, jetplanes, and limos.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2015, 08:34:58 AM

Even in the United States, you need a license/ carry permit/Firearm registration to own a firearm (varies from state to state), and it is not that easy to obtain them. Most of the states have banned the possession of assault weapons.

The problem is that all you need is a cheap car and enough cash to get you to a state like Arizona where any asshole can go to a "gun show" (read: gun sale) and anonymously buy a bigass murder weapon with no background check, and no license. Then you hop in your car, drive back to your home state, and murder a bunch of innocent people.

The system works! 'Murica!

And what is stopping that same individual from just plowing that car into a bunch of people? Those can be bought anonymously all over the country. Furthermore, even if the firearm was purchased legally, how exactly does that prevent an individual from using it to commit a criminal act? After all of the person kills a bunch of people it is not like they are anonymous any more. Very few mass shooters escape without being identified and captured. The shooter in this case was subjected to a background check and was cleared. What does your point about private gun sales have to do with any of this?

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Quote from: dblink on June 20, 2015, 09:02:11 AM

But black African people are good at revenge too. Once an innocent white girl who is about to die with cancer in a span of 6 months, walking in the street, few black African men came in the car pulled her inside and raped.

That's not revenge for anything, that's just rape. Your "friend" is an idiot, and definitely a racist. Because a few men who happened to have dark skin committed a crime, all people with dark skin are "good at revenge"? This is the textbook definition of prejudice.

Quote from: dblink on June 20, 2015, 09:02:11 AM

My friend told me who live in the United States of America

Right, "your friend" told you that story. Seems legit bro, you definitely didn't just pull this bullshit out of your ass. Nothing like a totally irrelevant gang rape story to muster up some hatred for a centuries-oppressed minority group.

Kindly kill yourself so you can stop spreading this ignorant hatred to others.

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Nine people have died in a shooting at a historic African-American church in Charleston in the US state of South Carolina.
City police chief Gregory Mullen described the attack at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church as a "hate crime".
He said eight victims died in the church and another shortly afterwards.
Police later issued surveillance images of the suspect - a white male in his 20s - and a vehicle.

We all talk about hate crime, I cannot say most of the times but more than a normal times, discrimination occur on black African people. But black African people are good at revenge too. My friend told me who live in the United States of America, once an innocent white girl who is about to die with cancer in a span of 6 months, walking in the street, few black African men came in the car pulled her inside and raped. Though the discrimination takes place on African people, I never support these kind of atrocity, brutality and inhumane actions.

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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU

Selling guns is much too profitable, mental healthcare far too expensive, for the corpo-political decision-maker caste to care that a bunch of random Americans will be slain in a shooting every so often.

After all, it's not like important people ever find themselves in the line of fire in these random attacks. No, their world is the safety and comfort skyscrapers, jetplanes, and limos.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2015, 08:34:58 AM

Even in the United States, you need a license/ carry permit/Firearm registration to own a firearm (varies from state to state), and it is not that easy to obtain them. Most of the states have banned the possession of assault weapons.

The problem is that all you need is a cheap car and enough cash to get you to a state like Arizona where any asshole can go to a "gun show" (read: gun sale) and anonymously buy a bigass murder weapon with no background check, and no license. Then you hop in your car, drive back to your home state, and murder a bunch of innocent people.

The system works! 'Murica!

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Quote from: TECSHARE on June 20, 2015, 07:34:52 AM

No one is giving everyone guns. Individuals have a CHOICE to buy one, and if you have the option to do so for yourself, what gives you the right to deny anyone else that right? Also, are your feelings the most important thing here, or are the statistics?

Even in the United States, you need a license/ carry permit/Firearm registration to own a firearm (varies from state to state), and it is not that easy to obtain them. Most of the states have banned the possession of assault weapons. Carrying a concealed fire-arm without the necessary permit, is a punishable offence in the United States.

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Quote from: HigsonPP on June 20, 2015, 06:04:21 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2015, 01:24:43 AM

That's why I have always claimed that taking away guns from the law-abiding population will only lead to more and more incidents such as this one. Accept it. South Carolina is a region where the crime rate is higher than the national average. Gun control there will take away guns from the normal people, while the criminals will be having a free run with their illegal weapons.

i don't think the answer to solving the problem of criminals carrying a guns is giving everybody firearm, people may think that if they had the power they would make a difference but as they say with great power comes great responsibility and most citizens like the criminals may not be able to handle a firearm responsibly giving guns is not the solutions, take away the illegal sources from which the criminals are getting guns. i will not feel safe if a 1 out of every 10 guys in the streets is carrying a gun

No one is giving everyone guns. Individuals have a CHOICE to buy one, and if you have the option to do so for yourself, what gives you the right to deny anyone else that right? Also, are your feelings the most important thing here, or are the statistics?

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Quote from: jayce on June 20, 2015, 02:04:19 AM

It would be a great if you give the link of the news, since the incident has attracted world people and me to know more about it. I still don't get a complete reason why he did that, maybe he is hiding something as the main motive.

The details are still emerging, but it seems that he suffered from mental illness for quite a long time.

http://www.newsmax.com/Health/Brain-Health/charleston-shooting-dylann-roof/2015/06/19/id/651353/

And regarding the motive, I believe that it is clear now. He told the victims himself that he was doing it, as a retaliation for rape of white women by black men. And the following article makes it clear that he was a neo-Nazi:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/dylann-roof-and-a-night-of-hate-in-charleston

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2015, 01:24:43 AM

Quote from: TheButterZone on June 20, 2015, 01:20:53 AM

White supremacist mass murderers DON'T infiltrate gun ranges with mostly black customers, DON'T infiltrate black-owned businesses where the owners and/or employees and/or customers are able to carry guns, DON'T infiltrate black birthday parties in people's yards where everyone is able to carry guns.

That's why I have always claimed that taking away guns from the law-abiding population will only lead to more and more incidents such as this one. Accept it. South Carolina is a region where the crime rate is higher than the national average. Gun control there will take away guns from the normal people, while the criminals will be having a free run with their illegal weapons.

i don't think the answer to solving the problem of criminals carrying a guns is giving everybody firearm, people may think that if they had the power they would make a difference but as they say with great power comes great responsibility and most citizens like the criminals may not be able to handle a firearm responsibly giving guns is not the solutions, take away the illegal sources from which the criminals are getting guns. i will not feel safe if a 1 out of every 10 guys in the streets is carrying a gun

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