Topic: South Carolina church shooting: Nine die in Charleston 'hate crime' - page 3. (Read 3579 times)
June 20, 2015, 05:40:12 AM
Also FDA has great responsibility for this crime. If Suboxone is dangerous why they allow it?
June 20, 2015, 03:34:06 AM
It's annoying how such racial hate crimes are committed and the felon has zero remorse. Delusional maniacs justifying and 'fighting for peace'. They are heroes in their own minds.
He seems to have zero remorse, as he is having mental issues. He is a known drug user, and was reported to be having mental health problems for a long time. At the time of the shooting, he was high on a drug called Suboxone, which can trigger violent reaction on people who take it. When he comes back to his senses, he will regret for what he did.
It would be a great if you give the link of the news, since the incident has attracted world people and me to know more about it. I still don't get a complete reason why he did that, maybe he is hiding something as the main motive.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33205339
Actually I haven't see yet why he did that and is he really having mental issues or not, since the motive just been explained by a spokeswoman for the justice department, not from the suspect or his lawyer. Anyway, thanks for the news link.
June 20, 2015, 02:27:40 AM
It's annoying how such racial hate crimes are committed and the felon has zero remorse. Delusional maniacs justifying and 'fighting for peace'. They are heroes in their own minds.
He seems to have zero remorse, as he is having mental issues. He is a known drug user, and was reported to be having mental health problems for a long time. At the time of the shooting, he was high on a drug called Suboxone, which can trigger violent reaction on people who take it. When he comes back to his senses, he will regret for what he did.
It would be a great if you give the link of the news, since the incident has attracted world people and me to know more about it. I still don't get a complete reason why he did that, maybe he is hiding something as the main motive.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33205339
June 20, 2015, 02:16:49 AM
It is not "hate crime" but "junkie crime".
June 20, 2015, 02:04:19 AM
It's annoying how such racial hate crimes are committed and the felon has zero remorse. Delusional maniacs justifying and 'fighting for peace'. They are heroes in their own minds.
He seems to have zero remorse, as he is having mental issues. He is a known drug user, and was reported to be having mental health problems for a long time. At the time of the shooting, he was high on a drug called Suboxone, which can trigger violent reaction on people who take it. When he comes back to his senses, he will regret for what he did.
It would be a great if you give the link of the news, since the incident has attracted world people and me to know more about it. I still don't get a complete reason why he did that, maybe he is hiding something as the main motive.
June 20, 2015, 01:24:43 AM
White supremacist mass murderers DON'T infiltrate gun ranges with mostly black customers, DON'T infiltrate black-owned businesses where the owners and/or employees and/or customers are able to carry guns, DON'T infiltrate black birthday parties in people's yards where everyone is able to carry guns.
That's why I have always claimed that taking away guns from the law-abiding population will only lead to more and more incidents such as this one. Accept it. South Carolina is a region where the crime rate is higher than the national average. Gun control there will take away guns from the normal people, while the criminals will be having a free run with their illegal weapons.
June 20, 2015, 01:20:53 AM
Note that no matter how many mental issues mass murderers have, they have enough self-preservation instinct/sanity to target only "gun free zones" like this church, or take up a sniping (Whitman)/bombing (McVeigh) position where victims' fire probably/certainly won't hit them.
White supremacist mass murderers DON'T infiltrate gun ranges with mostly black customers, DON'T infiltrate black-owned businesses where the owners and/or employees and/or customers are able to carry guns, DON'T infiltrate black birthday parties in people's yards where everyone is able to carry guns.
If you intended to kill a bunch of people, you wouldn't want to die in a hail of gunfire the instant you were spotted about to begin.
White supremacist mass murderers DON'T infiltrate gun ranges with mostly black customers, DON'T infiltrate black-owned businesses where the owners and/or employees and/or customers are able to carry guns, DON'T infiltrate black birthday parties in people's yards where everyone is able to carry guns.
If you intended to kill a bunch of people, you wouldn't want to die in a hail of gunfire the instant you were spotted about to begin.
June 20, 2015, 01:18:31 AM
I know this sad event happened in a church...
but how do you know specifically it was a hate crime?
but how do you know specifically it was a hate crime?
Let me answer your queries this way.
1) What is a hate crime?
In both crime and law, hate crime (also known as bias-motivated crime) is a usually violent, prejudice motivated crime that occurs when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group.
2) How is this a hate crime?
Killing people brutally and when questioned why, says: 'I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go.'
Read more here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33205339
3) What happens to him now?
Hate crimes are not separate charges, but an "enhancement" to an existing charge, like assault or murder. Prosecutors use this option to increase the severity of the punishment for those crimes - a potential sentence for a hate crime assault would be higher than an assault with no hate crime enhancement. The court decides what happens next, he's not getting away with it easy.
June 20, 2015, 12:59:13 AM
It's annoying how such racial hate crimes are committed and the felon has zero remorse. Delusional maniacs justifying and 'fighting for peace'. They are heroes in their own minds.
He seems to have zero remorse, as he is having mental issues. He is a known drug user, and was reported to be having mental health problems for a long time. At the time of the shooting, he was high on a drug called Suboxone, which can trigger violent reaction on people who take it. When he comes back to his senses, he will regret for what he did.
June 20, 2015, 12:08:04 AM
Charleston church victims’ families forgive suspect in court
CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — They forgave him. They advised him to repent for his sins, and asked for God’s mercy on his soul. One even told Dylann Storm Roof to repent and confess, and “you’ll be OK.”
Relatives of the nine people shot down during a Bible study session inside their historic black church confronted the 21-year-old suspect Friday during his initial hearing. They described their pain and anger, but also spoke of love.
“I forgive you, my family forgives you,” said Anthony Thompson, whose relative Myra Thompson was killed. “We would like you to take this opportunity to repent. … Do that and you’ll be better off than you are right now.”
Roof was ordered held until a bond is set on murder charges. He appeared by video from the county jail, looking somber in a striped jumpsuit and speaking only briefly in response to the judge’s questions.
The victims included the Rev. Clementa Pinckney, a state senator who doubled as the church’s lead pastor, and eight others who played multiple roles in their families and communities: ministers and coaches, teachers and a librarian, counselors and choir singers and the elderly sexton who made sure the historic Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church was kept clean.
More...http://wtop.com/national/2015/06/gunman-feared-blacks-were-taking-over-the-world/
CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — They forgave him. They advised him to repent for his sins, and asked for God’s mercy on his soul. One even told Dylann Storm Roof to repent and confess, and “you’ll be OK.”
Relatives of the nine people shot down during a Bible study session inside their historic black church confronted the 21-year-old suspect Friday during his initial hearing. They described their pain and anger, but also spoke of love.
“I forgive you, my family forgives you,” said Anthony Thompson, whose relative Myra Thompson was killed. “We would like you to take this opportunity to repent. … Do that and you’ll be better off than you are right now.”
Roof was ordered held until a bond is set on murder charges. He appeared by video from the county jail, looking somber in a striped jumpsuit and speaking only briefly in response to the judge’s questions.
The victims included the Rev. Clementa Pinckney, a state senator who doubled as the church’s lead pastor, and eight others who played multiple roles in their families and communities: ministers and coaches, teachers and a librarian, counselors and choir singers and the elderly sexton who made sure the historic Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church was kept clean.
More...http://wtop.com/national/2015/06/gunman-feared-blacks-were-taking-over-the-world/
June 19, 2015, 11:53:47 PM
From victims’ families, forgiveness for accused Charleston gunman Dylann Roof
CHARLESTON, S.C. — President Obama challenged the nation Friday to confront the “terrible toll of gun violence” a day after a white man opened fire in a historic black church, killing nine people whose mourning relatives addressed the alleged killer for the first time with a message of despair and forgiveness.
In an emotional courtroom encounter here, a mother and daughter, a sister and grandson, among others, spoke directly to Dylann Roof, the 21-year-old charged Friday with nine counts of murder. He appeared for the bond hearing from jail through closed-circuit television.
As Roof’s face filled much of the screen — his eyes lowered, two guards in body armor flanking him from behind — surviving relatives told Roof his crime had devastated their families. But some said they forgave him, and, recalling the spirit of the venue where he staged his attack, pledged to pray for his soul.
“We welcomed you Wednesday night in our Bible study with welcome arms,” Felicia Sanders, whose son Tywanza Sanders was allegedly killed by Roof. Police say Roof spent an hour among the parishioners Wednesday evening before opening fire.
“Tywanza Sanders was my son. But Tywanza Sanders was my hero. Tywanza was my hero,’’ she said, her voice trembling. “May God have mercy on you.”
More...http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/south-carolina-governor-urges-death-penalty-charges-in-church-slayings/2015/06/19/3c039722-1678-11e5-9ddc-e3353542100c_story.html
CHARLESTON, S.C. — President Obama challenged the nation Friday to confront the “terrible toll of gun violence” a day after a white man opened fire in a historic black church, killing nine people whose mourning relatives addressed the alleged killer for the first time with a message of despair and forgiveness.
In an emotional courtroom encounter here, a mother and daughter, a sister and grandson, among others, spoke directly to Dylann Roof, the 21-year-old charged Friday with nine counts of murder. He appeared for the bond hearing from jail through closed-circuit television.
As Roof’s face filled much of the screen — his eyes lowered, two guards in body armor flanking him from behind — surviving relatives told Roof his crime had devastated their families. But some said they forgave him, and, recalling the spirit of the venue where he staged his attack, pledged to pray for his soul.
“We welcomed you Wednesday night in our Bible study with welcome arms,” Felicia Sanders, whose son Tywanza Sanders was allegedly killed by Roof. Police say Roof spent an hour among the parishioners Wednesday evening before opening fire.
“Tywanza Sanders was my son. But Tywanza Sanders was my hero. Tywanza was my hero,’’ she said, her voice trembling. “May God have mercy on you.”
More...http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/south-carolina-governor-urges-death-penalty-charges-in-church-slayings/2015/06/19/3c039722-1678-11e5-9ddc-e3353542100c_story.html
June 19, 2015, 11:44:07 PM
The media is diving people by race, gender, religion, class, age, sexual preference, etc., as much as possible. They are the mouthpiece of those in control, and those in control want regular people fighting with themselves as much as possible, and not unifying across all of these lines to fight the common cause of their oppression... those in control.
At least, it should be sensible.
If the lunatic had a moslem sounding name, then playing it as a crime against christianity might have been believable.
Not in this case.
June 19, 2015, 11:43:00 PM
Dylann Roof: Minor crimes, 'creepy' behavior, talk of 'Southern pride'
Already in his young life, 21-year-old Dylann Storm Roof was a study in contradictions.
He lived in this tiny central South Carolina community, which is 90% black, and former classmates said he had many African American friends. But they also said he made racist jokes.
John Mullins, a former high school classmate, said that Roof didn't seem dangerous but that he would make comments sometimes that were troubling, talking about “Southern pride.”
“It was just jokes he would make, racist jokes,” Mullins said.
But now Roof will face murder and hate-crime charges in Wednesday night's slaughter of nine African Americans who had gathered for a Bible class inside a historic church in Charleston, 100 miles away. And authorities were scrambling to sketch out a profile of a man who, even in an age of continuous self-advertisement and public sharing, left little trail.
More...http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charleston-shooter-profile-20150618-story.html
Already in his young life, 21-year-old Dylann Storm Roof was a study in contradictions.
He lived in this tiny central South Carolina community, which is 90% black, and former classmates said he had many African American friends. But they also said he made racist jokes.
John Mullins, a former high school classmate, said that Roof didn't seem dangerous but that he would make comments sometimes that were troubling, talking about “Southern pride.”
“It was just jokes he would make, racist jokes,” Mullins said.
But now Roof will face murder and hate-crime charges in Wednesday night's slaughter of nine African Americans who had gathered for a Bible class inside a historic church in Charleston, 100 miles away. And authorities were scrambling to sketch out a profile of a man who, even in an age of continuous self-advertisement and public sharing, left little trail.
More...http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charleston-shooter-profile-20150618-story.html
June 19, 2015, 10:59:48 PM
Im just wondering if it will come out that he was on some kind of pill like Paxil or Zoloft or something like they claim most of these other mass killers have been reported to be on .... they say that is one thibg they all have in common
June 19, 2015, 10:58:01 PM
FoxNews is framing this as an attack on Christianity.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/06/18/foxs-steve-doocy-its-extraordinary-that-charles/204043
http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/06/18/foxs-steve-doocy-its-extraordinary-that-charles/204043
This is ridiculous.
Do they think people can't apply their own mind to news items?
Dylan Roof was probably a christian.
The media is diving people by race, gender, religion, class, age, sexual preference, etc., as much as possible. They are the mouthpiece of those in control, and those in control want regular people fighting with themselves as much as possible, and not unifying across all of these lines to fight the common cause of their oppression... those in control.
June 19, 2015, 09:58:50 PM
FoxNews is framing this as an attack on Christianity.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/06/18/foxs-steve-doocy-its-extraordinary-that-charles/204043
http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/06/18/foxs-steve-doocy-its-extraordinary-that-charles/204043
This is ridiculous.
Do they think people can't apply their own mind to news items?
Dylan Roof was probably a christian.
June 19, 2015, 09:57:14 PM
Its just painful to know that there are people like this that exist.
June 19, 2015, 09:31:05 PM
"Gun free zones" for all but mass murderers and lesser violent criminals.
June 19, 2015, 08:59:40 PM
I know this sad event happened in a church...
but how do you know specifically it was a hate crime?
but how do you know specifically it was a hate crime?
it was a white guy and black people died so that basically constitutes a hate crime.
June 19, 2015, 08:30:18 PM
Why does every single happening have to be down to 'Them'?
There are plenty of people who are nuts enough without shadowy powers encouraging them.
There are plenty of people who are nuts enough without shadowy powers encouraging them.
Did I address "every single happening" or just this instance? The FBI as well as other agencies here in the US have a very long and publicly documented history of finding impoverished feeble minded people, pumping them full of drugs and bad ideas, then giving them the weapons and money they need to commit a violent act so they can justify their own existence as well as create more social pressure for gun confiscation or more unconstitutional anti-terror laws.
You are talking James Bond movie conspiracy, I am talking military tactics that have been in use by various interests since society existed. Sure there are plenty of nuts, but nuts don't just randomly pick racially/religious driven targets that happen to create a perfectly timed political firestorm a few months before an election, and in the midst of riots in several places nation wide consisting mostly of blacks reacting to police violence against them. It is very clear various groups are attempting to initiate a race war in the US using a combination of violence and media. Chastise me all you want for seeing patterns you are willfully ignorant of, it doesn't make you any more correct, or make my observations incorrect just because the perpetrators aren't publicly known.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/friend-accused-sc-shooter-claims-wanted-start-race/story?id=31874063
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