Topic: SpaceX and the prospects of Mars colonization. - page 18. (Read 31904 times)

Here's SpaceX with the fakest shit ever, thunderbirds are go! -- https://youtu.be/HXdjxPY2j_0

Come to defend these psychopathic liars have you?

Hey, notbatman, my friend. How's funny farm life treating you?

These ideas will be never put in to practice. But those who come up with them will get rich, through funds from the government agencies and sponsorship deals from the oligarchs and the billionaires.

This is another business project scientists. Who remembers about the ozone holes? The myth of global warming too, will soon lose its relevance. So new ideas about the colonization of the moon and Mars.

I heard a thought which sounded about, "Why would anybody need to go to Mars if here's enough hardly habitable territories already?" Yet, going there is more of a possibility to do what you want, as it was in the times of great discoveries. If people get chance to survive on Mars without steady supplies from here they may try to build free world yet again.

But it's a Magic Bus.

The Earth is flat and motionless and Mars is a small luminous object roughly the size of a bus that's very close. SpaceX and NASA are lying to you, stealing your money, brainwashing you with propaganda and much more. THEY ARE HORRIBLE CRIMINALS GET IT?

Just like all they are saying, Mars would be like Earth, but what are they are saying that Mars can be Earth? We need first a science facts to know that Mars will be safe for us to live on. We need a reserve like the Earth to live on, and we need Mars to be the one to live on. NASA and Space X should know what will be the Mars for us.

Mars is an object about the size of bus, you ain't terraforming no oversized light bulb.

Terraformation is always a possibility

Musk is a scammer and Mars is some small light in the sky within our motionless enclosed Earthly plane, it's not a terrestrial world people can visit. This is 100% propaganda bullshit that NASA and SpaceX are selling.

Hmmm

Trips up there would be expensive

Bringing something back would make it less expensive  

Plus, the reality show idea from Mars One isn't a bad idea to cut downs costs too

Aaand, there's always the tourist visit pay and you could bring something along if needed  

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It would be necessary to tell them there's a high risk of them dying during the mission

We don't need to care if they die on the mission.  We need to only consider the payoffs for the mission, and we need to consider if the risk of their dying puts those payoffs at risk.

To even think in the direction of not doing it because someone might die is a huge blunder.

It is not just the cost. A manned mission to the mars is extremely dangerous, and there is a very good chance of the astronauts dying before the mission could be completed. We need to look in to that aspect as well.

Searching for economic reasons?  How does one do that?  I would package a hundred exploratory robots and send that rocket one way.  Call this Option A.  Assume each probe lands a different place MIRV style, 2/3 survive and explore two years each.

A manned mission to Mars is little different than a two year stay in the ISS, right?  It's eight months each way more or less.  Call this Option B. Assume one month to four months on Mars.

A = 2/3 survive * 100 probes * 250 hours/month * 24 months = 396,000 hours of exploration, 66 locations

B = 4 * 250 hours/month = 1,000 hours of exploration, one location

If A and B cost the same, I'll take "A," because I view it as a really serious effort with the highest payoffs.  "B" does not appear serious in that sense.

It was easier said than done buddy , you can't just easily go to a planet and literally live there like earth does and the  transportation is not like traveling from country to country remember its a planet its very far from this world ! and lastly the local government is out of this ! it is not their job to colonize other planet !I believe that the idea of living to other planet is a pure science fiction !

From my perspective, just going there and returning back to Earth (no Mars to stay) until there are practical reasons to return is worthy.

But, of course, there might be scientific reasons to keep there a team. Including searching for economic reasons to go there in numbers. 

Um, no, we are not a multiplanetary species if we send a couple people to Mars.  And there is zero certainty that sending a couple of people will result in momentum for sending more and more and more.  People are STILL TRYING to create momentum for continuing the NASA moon program and they are not getting anywhere.'

I already wrote that we are going to Mars not for technological, economical or any other practical reason (forget about any demographic reason: human population is growing at about 80 million every year: we won’t be able to send 80 million people to Mars every year for the next century and after 2050, probably, the population will start decreasing), but for psychological reasons: pride and self-esteem (and because of the dreams of immortality of some active people).

Some would say, hell, are we going to spend billions just for fun, when we could use this money to eradicate poverty and cure diseases?

Well, we spend much more (trillions) just for fun on millions of things.

Just think about how much we spend making movies. Many are now costing more than 300 millions. The Martian had a budget of 108 million.

Mars Semi-direct, a revised low budget human trip to Mars, would cost 55 billion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Direct#Mars_Semi-Direct).

But Elon Musk says he can build the Mars rocket for 10 billion (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/science/elon-musk-spacex-mars-exploration.html?_r=0). But let’s put the price of the trip at 20 billion.

That is the price of 66 movies of 300 millions each. Isn’t worthy? I bet we have spent much more than 20 billion making science fiction movies.

The goal about making us a multiplanetary species (I mean, with autonomous colonies in Mars) are still science and economical fiction.

We can say that for humans to have a future, it must be in space, because the sun is going to burn all life on Earth on 3 or 4 billion years.

But that is so far in the future that our chances to go extinct for any other reason are much higher.

Let’s go to Mars for fun, because life is all about that.