It's a bit strange that nobody isn't talking about this round games when we had 6 goals drama between Eintracht and Dortmund and Bayern simply destroying Darmstadt 8:0. Maybe Bayern's result wouldn't be surprising that much, but when you have 0:0 at halftime, usually you don't expext such things to happen. And that Kane goal from his own half is serious contender for Puskas award.
And I can't remember round withso many red cards.
P.S. Where I can watch proper highlights of Bundesliga game? Because when Bundesliga Youtube channels puts 6 or 8 goals in 1 minute video, it's ridiculous...
Topic: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 - page 17. (Read 6758 times)
October 29, 2023, 01:03:54 PM
October 27, 2023, 05:32:02 PM
Eh... the complete opposite happened with me. Automatically want to go against Mainz but I finally decided to let off on Mainz and went with a respectable draw for them. Exact score to start the week perfectly but still needed an own goal and injury time for that.
Yeah that late goal came nice for me as well, especially this season when it is 3 points for getting the draw correct. Usually all those late goals go against my prediction, like in PL pool tonight where I had 2:0 for Spurs.So many pools and competitions this season, feels like I have to enter some predictions every day
October 27, 2023, 04:42:26 PM
was thinking what is better, to go with Bochum, or for a draw, and decided for Bochum
but Mainz scored a last second goal to take one point home, and game finished 2:2, and there goes my pick with it
off to tomorrow games, not a very interesting round, have to say, but Bremen vs Union could be good, Union is not playing best football lately
but Mainz scored a last second goal to take one point home, and game finished 2:2, and there goes my pick with it
off to tomorrow games, not a very interesting round, have to say, but Bremen vs Union could be good, Union is not playing best football lately
Eh... the complete opposite happened with me. Automatically want to go against Mainz but I finally decided to let off on Mainz and went with a respectable draw for them. Exact score to start the week perfectly but still needed an own goal and injury time for that.
Luck, huh.
Ey, cygan, our bitcointalk Werderaner, put a fiver on an actual stub too so you can have a couple of free Haake Beck when they win eh?
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i don't need to bet a fiver - i'll get the beer for the way to the stadium as it is
in any case, i'll take a bit more pictures and share these impressions in the said thread.union now with 9 defeats in a row and bremen with 3 - that will definitely be a very interesting game and hopefully with a good end for bremen
Ah, I need to take the cue from you not to drink more when I win silly bets and just keep the beer habit to a given heh. Going to be a while for me before I see a proper game, but there is always something about the passion betwixt teams with less and less to "lose".
Hope you enjoy.
October 27, 2023, 04:32:06 PM
was thinking what is better, to go with Bochum, or for a draw, and decided for Bochum
but Mainz scored a last second goal to take one point home, and game finished 2:2, and there goes my pick with it
off to tomorrow games, not a very interesting round, have to say, but Bremen vs Union could be good, Union is not playing best football lately
but Mainz scored a last second goal to take one point home, and game finished 2:2, and there goes my pick with it
off to tomorrow games, not a very interesting round, have to say, but Bremen vs Union could be good, Union is not playing best football lately
October 27, 2023, 04:35:10 AM
Ey, cygan, our bitcointalk Werderaner, put a fiver on an actual stub too so you can have a couple of free Haake Beck when they win eh?
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i don't need to bet a fiver - i'll get the beer for the way to the stadium as it is
in any case, i'll take a bit more pictures and share these impressions in the said thread.union now with 9 defeats in a row and bremen with 3 - that will definitely be a very interesting game and hopefully with a good end for bremen
October 26, 2023, 10:46:35 AM
tomorrow is friday again and so the 9th matchday starts with the game bochum vs. mainz. its a game in which both clubs need a win to get some breathing space and not to lose the connection to the other clubs.
and to make sure that all participants are treated equally and submit their picks in time, here is my usual reminder to those who have not yet submitted their picks
and to make sure that all participants are treated equally and submit their picks in time, here is my usual reminder to those who have not yet submitted their picks
Thanks for the reminder, I thought I submitted my picks over the weekend already.
I guess I just mistake it for the UCL predictions I made and I probably would have reviewed my picks at some point tomorrow, but the reminder still helped, thanks.
Frankfurt vs Dortmund would be my go to game, If I'd be streaming any of this round matches, that should be an interesting match.
October 26, 2023, 09:31:02 AM
Ey, cygan, our bitcointalk Werderaner, put a fiver on an actual stub too so you can have a couple of free Haake Beck when they win eh?
Frankfurt-Dortmund would be my choice for watching but more likely will be out anyway. My picks are in, Bremen win and Freiburg win are my risks to try and climb that horrible gap to the top!
Frankfurt-Dortmund would be my choice for watching but more likely will be out anyway. My picks are in, Bremen win and Freiburg win are my risks to try and climb that horrible gap to the top!
October 26, 2023, 09:20:57 AM
tomorrow is friday again and so the 9th matchday starts with the game bochum vs. mainz. its a game in which both clubs need a win to get some breathing space and not to lose the connection to the other clubs.
and to make sure that all participants are treated equally and submit their picks in time, here is my usual reminder to those who have not yet submitted their picks
small side note: at the game bremen vs. union i will personally be in the stadium to support my club (svw)
of course, few pictures will follow, which will be published in this thread: show us your stadium visit ⚽🏈🏀🏉🎾🏓⚾🏏🏐🏎
and to make sure that all participants are treated equally and submit their picks in time, here is my usual reminder to those who have not yet submitted their picks
Code:
KTChampions
Trofo
morvillz7z
CLS63
Omikifuse
Little Mouse
mitchr4
Harkorede
buwaytress
casperBGD
LTU_btc
mv1986
1r0n1c
Ulven
vd309
1miau
shogun47
seek3r
darxiaomi
efialtis (aka BTCGOSU
small side note: at the game bremen vs. union i will personally be in the stadium to support my club (svw)
of course, few pictures will follow, which will be published in this thread: show us your stadium visit ⚽🏈🏀🏉🎾🏓⚾🏏🏐🏎
October 24, 2023, 08:15:19 AM
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@KTChampions, lucky streak or pure skill? ;P
@KTChampions, lucky streak or pure skill? ;P
I think it’s too early to say what will happen at the end, I’m sure that we will see a kaledoscope both in the top and in other parts of the table.
As for me, I'm sure it's luck. Firstly, my results in other polls are bad (I even avoid looking at the statistics so as not to lose my good mood), and secondly, the Bundesliga looks random to me, maybe I understand a few teams from here, but overall I can’t say that I understand this league.
I am also in the German pool for the 1. Bundesliga and the choices between the native German/Austria/Switzerland people and the English 1. Bundesliga pool with a more international field of participants differ quite a bit. But I think it is more indicative of the fact that there is lots of luck involved. One would assume that we should the league better than someone who isn't reading the daily news about it, but sometimes the results are so random that those who pick more random get away with better results. But since you had this average, I assumed you would at least be reasonably aware of what's going on in the league since you are constantly having good results!
October 24, 2023, 05:36:57 AM
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For the record: season 2022/23 bullrun2020bro (419 points)
KTChampions is averaging just under 15 points per round and that would by far destroy bullrun2020bro's 419 points.
Edit: these are the results from the German pool:
saison 2019/20 cygan (386 punkte - besonderheit: tippspiel hat ab dem 4. spieltag begonnen)
saison 2020/21 Lemming (403 punkte)
saison 2021/22 cygan (459 punkte)
saison 2022/23 bullrun2020bro (419 punkte)
@KTChampions, lucky streak or pure skill? ;P
For the record: season 2022/23 bullrun2020bro (419 points)
KTChampions is averaging just under 15 points per round and that would by far destroy bullrun2020bro's 419 points.
Edit: these are the results from the German pool:
saison 2019/20 cygan (386 punkte - besonderheit: tippspiel hat ab dem 4. spieltag begonnen)
saison 2020/21 Lemming (403 punkte)
saison 2021/22 cygan (459 punkte)
saison 2022/23 bullrun2020bro (419 punkte)
@KTChampions, lucky streak or pure skill? ;P
I think it’s too early to say what will happen at the end, I’m sure that we will see a kaledoscope both in the top and in other parts of the table.
As for me, I'm sure it's luck. Firstly, my results in other polls are bad (I even avoid looking at the statistics so as not to lose my good mood), and secondly, the Bundesliga looks random to me, maybe I understand a few teams from here, but overall I can’t say that I understand this league.
October 24, 2023, 12:01:23 AM
So, Bard AI has helped me to earn 3 points in the latest Matchday:
It's not like Bard predicted the correct score. Bard predicted a 3-1 win for Bayern Munich in the FC Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg, but since it said: "but it could be a close match", I predicted 4-1 and was right about the Goal Difference and therefore earned 3 points. I'm happy with the result, to be honest. Probably will be using Bard more for my future predictions. (I hope it's not against the rules).
It's not like Bard predicted the correct score. Bard predicted a 3-1 win for Bayern Munich in the FC Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg, but since it said: "but it could be a close match", I predicted 4-1 and was right about the Goal Difference and therefore earned 3 points. I'm happy with the result, to be honest. Probably will be using Bard more for my future predictions. (I hope it's not against the rules).
I am totally sure that Bard won't give you an edge. It is as much rolling the dice as everyone else is who has a good grasp of the teams and the league. At best, I would say. I think knowing a league and knowing some of the minor details of every team already gives you an edge over the AI. This might change in the future, but not for now.
Next season we could add some accounts and operate them with AI and see what the results are at the end of the season. Could be worth a little experiment although I am quite sure what the outcome will be.
You are correct, it's this point Brad is pretty much useless for predicting the outcomes of the games. Bard is almost always predicts 2-1 in favour of the strongest team. It predicted 3-1 win for Bayern Munich in the FC Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg, but it only happened once, and Bard wasn't correct in that case anyway. Maybe it's my prompt, but something makes it impossible to use Bard for making correct predictions. I will try with some other promts, though, but my hopes are not high.
I think it is because AI-systems don't have an information advantage and they probably also have issues with sources spreading false information. These AI-systems are also probabilistic, which means that any smallest deviation from the seemingly most likely outcome would make them be a bad system.
Probably this is the case. What I found strange was that even if I was telling Bard "This player isn't playing in that match. Please take that into account and now tell me what are the most probable All-time Goalscorers", Bard was, nevertheless, listing that player among them again? I see it as some kind of a temporary glitch. But at this point, Bard is impossible to use and ChatGPT doesn't know anything about present or future.
This table is outdated, but I still think it provides a decent overview of the total score distribution across several leagues. Interestingly though, the most common result is a 1-1 draw. But if AI then gathers some data and understands that there is a favorite and an underdog, it will just go with the 2-1 most of the time because it is the second most likely result for the years presented in that table.
I think it is still very far from gathering real-time data and then include it in the outputs. For example, what would a trained AS-system do if it learns that Kane and Sané will miss a game on short notice? It would be interesting if it corrects the total score one goal down or something like that. But all these are averages and really, I don't see the day coming when AI gets a 5-0 Stuttgart vs. Freiburg prediction right
I think it is still very far from gathering real-time data and then include it in the outputs. For example, what would a trained AS-system do if it learns that Kane and Sané will miss a game on short notice? It would be interesting if it corrects the total score one goal down or something like that. But all these are averages and really, I don't see the day coming when AI gets a 5-0 Stuttgart vs. Freiburg prediction right
Thank you for the link! I find that info very helpful.
I think you are right. AI will never predict something like 5-0.
October 23, 2023, 06:50:46 PM
the 8th matchday is over now with a spectacular 5-2 away win of augbsurg in heidenheim and with 19 points each we have two matchday winners with KTChampions (who is also the new table leader) and efialtis (aka BTCGOSU), who can now look forward to a free bet on sportsbet.io
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
Thank you! I have already received a free bet and I hope to implement it in the Champions League games (although I have not yet seen whether there will be convenient games there).
I'm very glad that I finally got the yellow cap - in the previous round I didn't get it because of just one point, but this time luck was on my side. I also congratulate BTCGOSU.
BTCGOSU would be second if he had not missed the first two arounds and would have averaged the same scored he had in the last six rounds. That's probably a but frustrating, but maybe it is also a nice motivation to fight his way back to the top and wouldn't it be a historic moment if he won the pool in the end?
I still can't forget about my not being able to finish the league in 5th place last season because of not being able to make predictions for only 1 week. Therefore I think that BTCGOSU is disappointed now. However as we are still like at the first times of the season he still has a potential to win a prize in the league if he maintains this performance.
If I'm to look from my point of view I'm showing a quite good performance this season. I hope that I can manage to win one of the big prizes.
October 23, 2023, 04:41:38 PM
the 8th matchday is over now with a spectacular 5-2 away win of augbsurg in heidenheim and with 19 points each we have two matchday winners with KTChampions (who is also the new table leader) and efialtis (aka BTCGOSU), who can now look forward to a free bet on sportsbet.io
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
Thank you! I have already received a free bet and I hope to implement it in the Champions League games (although I have not yet seen whether there will be convenient games there).
I'm very glad that I finally got the yellow cap - in the previous round I didn't get it because of just one point, but this time luck was on my side. I also congratulate BTCGOSU.
BTCGOSU would be second if he had not missed the first two arounds and would have averaged the same scored he had in the last six rounds. That's probably a but frustrating, but maybe it is also a nice motivation to fight his way back to the top and wouldn't it be a historic moment if he won the pool in the end?
For the record: season 2022/23 bullrun2020bro (419 points)
KTChampions is averaging just under 15 points per round and that would by far destroy bullrun2020bro's 419 points.
Edit: these are the results from the German pool:
saison 2019/20 cygan (386 punkte - besonderheit: tippspiel hat ab dem 4. spieltag begonnen)
saison 2020/21 Lemming (403 punkte)
saison 2021/22 cygan (459 punkte)
saison 2022/23 bullrun2020bro (419 punkte)
@KTChampions, lucky streak or pure skill? ;P
October 23, 2023, 08:00:23 AM
the 8th matchday is over now with a spectacular 5-2 away win of augbsurg in heidenheim and with 19 points each we have two matchday winners with KTChampions (who is also the new table leader) and efialtis (aka BTCGOSU), who can now look forward to a free bet on sportsbet.io
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
Thank you! I have already received a free bet and I hope to implement it in the Champions League games (although I have not yet seen whether there will be convenient games there).
I'm very glad that I finally got the yellow cap - in the previous round I didn't get it because of just one point, but this time luck was on my side. I also congratulate BTCGOSU.
October 22, 2023, 06:24:02 PM
I think Heidenheim and Darmstadt are the two teams with the wildest turns during their games after taking the lead.
The game Darmstadt - Gladbach ended 3-3 after Darmstadt had a 3-0 lead against them. That was crazy and hurtful for them, but thy kept fighting and were able to win 2 out of their next 3 games.
Heidenheim - Dortmund was insane because it was the other way around when Dortmund had a 2-0 lead in the Signal Iduna Park and Heidenheim was able to equalize the game... But today I was so confident after they had the 2-0 lead against Augsburg that I didn't consider for a second that Augsburg could still win this game. Well, with a staggering 5-2 for Augsburg I think I have been wrong here.
The game Darmstadt - Gladbach ended 3-3 after Darmstadt had a 3-0 lead against them. That was crazy and hurtful for them, but thy kept fighting and were able to win 2 out of their next 3 games.
Heidenheim - Dortmund was insane because it was the other way around when Dortmund had a 2-0 lead in the Signal Iduna Park and Heidenheim was able to equalize the game... But today I was so confident after they had the 2-0 lead against Augsburg that I didn't consider for a second that Augsburg could still win this game. Well, with a staggering 5-2 for Augsburg I think I have been wrong here.
October 22, 2023, 02:34:55 PM
the 8th matchday is over now with a spectacular 5-2 away win of augbsurg in heidenheim and with 19 points each we have two matchday winners with KTChampions (who is also the new table leader) and efialtis (aka BTCGOSU), who can now look forward to a free bet on sportsbet.io
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
This has got to be one of the closest round, If not the closest round so far in this competition, lowest point being 11 and highest is 19 points with vast majority of the others lying between 13-18 points, I think this is even the closest round ever, and it's not even up for discussion.
I was a victim of marginal goal differences and that ended up hurting my chances of closing in on pack leaders, being able to maintain my spot, while not losing significant point difference from the leader is something I can live with for this week.
October 22, 2023, 02:14:14 PM
the 8th matchday is over now with a spectacular 5-2 away win of augbsurg in heidenheim and with 19 points each we have two matchday winners with KTChampions (who is also the new table leader) and efialtis (aka BTCGOSU), who can now look forward to a free bet on sportsbet.io
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
congratulations from me - i have forwarded your nicknames immediately
general overwiev will follow...
October 20, 2023, 07:37:37 PM
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but winning when you are not in best shape is what brings good placements and titles
but winning when you are not in best shape is what brings good placements and titles
This can't be denied, but it comes with the risk that one day the result-oriented style will more often end in a draw or in a worst case also in losses. But I don't want to be too negative because despite their lack of offensive power, defensively they are doing ok. It has been worse than that but at least they do win a game with just one goal. It is their third 1-0 win this season and Dortmund is well known for losing games late in the second half when they failed to extend their lead and concede a goal close to the end of the game. This seems to be working out for them, but I still miss the goal fest style they often played in the past.
But to come back to the quote from above, goal fest style doesn't win any titles when there are still too many lost points. It is more likely that they have a chance this year when they can more often get the 1-0 lead over the finish line.
It's easier to understand everyone's expectation of this match looking at the scores prediction, the largest percentage of the pool went for a 2-goals difference win for Dortmund and so did I as well.
I went with Dortmund for a 2-0 win and my reason doesn't go beyond the fact that it's the first game after an international break and the smaller teams are often at better advantage by having not so many players from their squad being called or participating for the internationals fixtures while you have players having less than 24 hours for games and after several hours of flight from different continents.
October 20, 2023, 05:42:08 PM
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but winning when you are not in best shape is what brings good placements and titles
but winning when you are not in best shape is what brings good placements and titles
This can't be denied, but it comes with the risk that one day the result-oriented style will more often end in a draw or in a worst case also in losses. But I don't want to be too negative because despite their lack of offensive power, defensively they are doing ok. It has been worse than that but at least they do win a game with just one goal. It is their third 1-0 win this season and Dortmund is well known for losing games late in the second half when they failed to extend their lead and concede a goal close to the end of the game. This seems to be working out for them, but I still miss the goal fest style they often played in the past.
But to come back to the quote from above, goal fest style doesn't win any titles when there are still too many lost points. It is more likely that they have a chance this year when they can more often get the 1-0 lead over the finish line.
October 20, 2023, 04:57:23 PM
agree with a doubt stand, but Dortmund will probably have a hard fought win
didn't watch it, but statistic said 22 shots, 5 on target, and one goal by Brandt, enough for a minimal win
agree, they don't look very good at the moment, but winning when you are not in best shape is what brings good placements and titles
while I was typing, it ended, 1:0 for Dortmund
didn't watch it, but statistic said 22 shots, 5 on target, and one goal by Brandt, enough for a minimal win
agree, they don't look very good at the moment, but winning when you are not in best shape is what brings good placements and titles
while I was typing, it ended, 1:0 for Dortmund
An unexpected result for me, I predicted 3-1 in favor of Dortmund, but only a minimal victory as a result. Despite the fact that Dortmund scores on average more than 2 goals per game, and Werder concedes more than 2. Well. For at least a day, Dortmund is in first place and I will hope that the Bundesliga in the remaining games will continue to show greater results as in previous rounds.
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