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Quote from: swogerino on October 24, 2022, 09:02:33 AM

Quote from: darxiaomi on October 24, 2022, 07:31:50 AM

I really regret my decision of backing Mercedes so much this year, hoping their can make the come back i lose so much points by doing that.

In other things, do you see the hilarious sanction against Alonso?, the winner of the round has changed. I cant believe what its doing FIA, how you can put this stupid sanction.

Hilarious indeed as they should have shown him the black and orange flag during the race if it were this dangerous to race without the right mirror of your car.FIA does not give a sh*t anymore about anything and I don't know based on which regulation they sanctioned Alonso.

I see now with the sanction I am back at 5th place from six,I believe some McLaren or Ocon to be included in the ten first places.

Exactly that man, its a really bad decision from the race direction. I think Alpine and Alonso have to appeal this one. Its a total non sense.

I feel really bad for him because, wasnt his fault on the crash, he managed to survive, and after all this they come with this non sense, come on.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on October 24, 2022, 07:31:50 AM

I really regret my decision of backing Mercedes so much this year, hoping their can make the come back i lose so much points by doing that.

In other things, do you see the hilarious sanction against Alonso?, the winner of the round has changed. I cant believe what its doing FIA, how you can put this stupid sanction.

Hilarious indeed as they should have shown him the black and orange flag during the race if it were this dangerous to race without the right mirror of your car.FIA does not give a sh*t anymore about anything and I don't know based on which regulation they sanctioned Alonso.

I see now with the sanction I am back at 5th place from six,I believe some McLaren or Ocon to be included in the ten first places.

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I really regret my decision of backing Mercedes so much this year, hoping their can make the come back i lose so much points by doing that.

In other things, do you see the hilarious sanction against Alonso?, the winner of the round has changed. I cant believe what its doing FIA, how you can put this stupid sanction.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 24, 2022, 01:08:31 AM

Did anyone else loved the irony of Verstappen to his team when his team screwed up their second pit stop?I personally loved it,it shows that he wanted to win despite him being already Champion for this year,I doubt any other driver would have come and win after that except maybe Hamilton if he had the same car.

In the pool congrats to casper,for me it was a really bad week as I only took near the minimum amount of anyone else and lost a position but the two fights are open,that for the first prize and that for the third.

Didn't watch so no didn't even know that happened. Hope at least the remaining races give us the very same entertainment value, I might actually pop up to watch Brazil or Abu Dhabi as those are at very watchable times for me.

Pool? Mathematically even I have a chance at a prize but I've just been so bad all season I really can't see a way out for me. Still. Only need 1 yellow cap to get somewhere close, right?

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 23, 2022, 04:21:41 PM

Quote from: swogerino on October 22, 2022, 01:22:45 PM

Knowing the character of Verstappen,thinking back of his rage and crashes when he was young and not much experienced but those crashes showed that he wanted to win at all cost and he was ready to try anything for winning races.Now he already has 2 Championships in his pocket and this means that he will try to win all the remaining races.If you ask why that is simple,as they say "Appetite comes by eating" so the more a driver wins the more he wants to win further.

For the upcoming pole I am waiting to see the latest third practice in 9 Pm European time as the qualifying is in 12 AM,so I am not putting any prediction until then,hopefully I don't fall to sleep or it is good bye for me the fight for the third spot Grin

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Yeah,definitely counted on that hunger of his to make a comeback, there should be a different aspect to it coming in as a champion already, now just records to break.

Did count on Sainz making fastest lap but not pole, but really overlooked Hamilton being able to do that! Credit to Leclerc for making up all that ground but cannot see Max not going on to just pile on the dominance.

Gg casper-)

Did anyone else loved the irony of Verstappen to his team when his team screwed up their second pit stop?I personally loved it,it shows that he wanted to win despite him being already Champion for this year,I doubt any other driver would have come and win after that except maybe Hamilton if he had the same car.

In the pool congrats to casper,for me it was a really bad week as I only took near the minimum amount of anyone else and lost a position but the two fights are open,that for the first prize and that for the third.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 22, 2022, 01:22:45 PM

Knowing the character of Verstappen,thinking back of his rage and crashes when he was young and not much experienced but those crashes showed that he wanted to win at all cost and he was ready to try anything for winning races.Now he already has 2 Championships in his pocket and this means that he will try to win all the remaining races.If you ask why that is simple,as they say "Appetite comes by eating" so the more a driver wins the more he wants to win further.

For the upcoming pole I am waiting to see the latest third practice in 9 Pm European time as the qualifying is in 12 AM,so I am not putting any prediction until then,hopefully I don't fall to sleep or it is good bye for me the fight for the third spot Grin

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Yeah,definitely counted on that hunger of his to make a comeback, there should be a different aspect to it coming in as a champion already, now just records to break.

Did count on Sainz making fastest lap but not pole, but really overlooked Hamilton being able to do that! Credit to Leclerc for making up all that ground but cannot see Max not going on to just pile on the dominance.

Gg casper-)

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This is a good track!
Fun race and in the end, the dominant car won again.

Max now has the same amount of winning as MSchumacher 2004 and Vettel with RBR, and he probably beat them.

The better car, maybe the better driver but a doped car.

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Congratulation to CasperBDG for win this round!

A really fun to watch race to see, we have all we can have (only miss the rain Tongue

) Safety car, pit stops errors, great drivings, tyres management, etc.

RB took his constructor championship, in memory of his owner. A very important person in F1 i think he was.

What a bad luck to Sebastian Vettel he made a beatifull race.

Quote from: boltz on October 23, 2022, 03:52:22 PM

Ohhh what a race we had! Grin

Hamilton was so close to clinch this win but Max is too strong right now for Mercedes and he had no chance but he also dived on him on the left like he did in Abu Dhabi so that's already a signature move from Max.

With this win , RedBull won their 5th championship after last one in 2013 and Max also got his 13th win and it's on the same page with Schumacher and Vettel with still some races to go to overtake them Grin

Yes Mercedes was really near to the first win of the season, but this RB its so much.

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Ohhh what a race we had! Grin

Hamilton was so close to clinch this win but Max is too strong right now for Mercedes and he had no chance but he also dived on him on the left like he did in Abu Dhabi so that's already a signature move from Max.

With this win , RedBull won their 5th championship after last one in 2013 and Max also got his 13th win and it's on the same page with Schumacher and Vettel with still some races to go to overtake them Grin

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 21, 2022, 04:07:16 AM

Have to say once more GG to swogerino for that awesome haul, I'm going for broke and putting in slightly unfavoured picks in the positions, have to try and do better than 0 bonus points for position accuracy, and Leclerc pole at over 3/1 does seem like good value, if we believe Verstappen's going to take a lot of risks to try create some records (season's in the bag, right?).

Knowing the character of Verstappen,thinking back of his rage and crashes when he was young and not much experienced but those crashes showed that he wanted to win at all cost and he was ready to try anything for winning races.Now he already has 2 Championships in his pocket and this means that he will try to win all the remaining races.If you ask why that is simple,as they say "Appetite comes by eating" so the more a driver wins the more he wants to win further.

For the upcoming pole I am waiting to see the latest third practice in 9 Pm European time as the qualifying is in 12 AM,so I am not putting any prediction until then,hopefully I don't fall to sleep or it is good bye for me the fight for the third spot Grin

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 21, 2022, 04:46:21 PM

Leclerc is even reported to be starting from back of the grid to this Grand Prix.

If true, it would make it almost impossible for him to challenge Verstappen.
Austin is easy to overtake but Verstappen would be far away by when Leclerc would have passed most of the field.

In addition, Perez is also reported to drop by 5 places grid penalty: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/perez-and-zhou-to-receive-us-gp-grid-drops-after-engine-changes/10387742/
I don't know how reliable the source is but several sites are talking about a Perez 5 place penalty.

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Leclerc is even reported to be starting from back of the grid to this Grand Prix.

This is like an official announcement of Verstappen to win the race. Grin

I don't mean that Verstappen would have struggled in the other case. Because he already has a much faster car than Leclerc now and he is winning the races very easily most of the time as well. But at least Leclerc would have a chance to take advantage of Verstappen's probable mistake during the race. Now he has a very difficult job to climb the positions from all the way back. Red Bull drivers would be in control of this race I assume. Sainz will be alone to fight against Mercedes drivers for some time. We will see if he will be able to make some difficulties for Perez also.

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Have to say once more GG to swogerino for that awesome haul, I'm going for broke and putting in slightly unfavoured picks in the positions, have to try and do better than 0 bonus points for position accuracy, and Leclerc pole at over 3/1 does seem like good value, if we believe Verstappen's going to take a lot of risks to try create some records (season's in the bag, right?).

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 19, 2022, 04:58:28 PM

Even though Verstappen has officially become the champion the season is still continuing for all of us here especially. We are on another race week and the location is the USA this time.

This race was dominated by Lewis Hamilton in the past for long years until 2017. But since then we have seen different drivers winning the race like Kimi, Bottas and Verstappen respectively. Verstappen is the biggest favourite to win again now. Maybe he is the champion but we all know how much competitive he is in every condition. He would still fight for winning the rest of the races. I've checked the odds for qualifying session as well and seen this:

There is a very small gap between these drivers for pole and it isn't surprising of course. Leclerc has won 9 poles in this season so far. So it might be worth betting on Leclerc to win pole position in this race.

Odds have changed meanwhile and Leclers is at 3.00 now for getting pole, which is quite a lot.

When I saw Verstappen's odds yesterday, I was considering to go for Verstappen pole because as swogerino has said: it's a long straight and long straights should be good for RedBull. RedBull has also improved for qualifying recently when Verstappen was taking pole in Japan.
Going for Leclerc after his engine change and RedBull's recent performance is too risky for me.

Quote from: swogerino on October 20, 2022, 02:57:03 AM

He has 1.45 to win the race which clearly confirms my thinking.

Odds have also changed here but Leclerc getting a penalty would be an easy win for Verstappen. He could only lose when team orders are given in favor of Perez or from a technical issue. But RedBull has been very reliable recently.
High temperatures should be also suitable for RedBull as Ferrari has huge problems with tyre degradation. Sunday is forecasted to be above 30°C, so Ferrari's tyres can get serious issue.
I'm taking a Verstappen win at 1.41

But it will be an interesting race to see if Sainz can stop Verstappen or Perez.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 20, 2022, 02:57:03 AM

There is but one big problem for us if we go for Leclerc,the track here has decent straight points which would clearly favor Verstappen to win the Pole Position for this race if the qualifying happens in normal conditions and I have not seen any rain predicted for that time until now.I know though that Verstappen maybe won't give 100% anymore out of him as he is already Champion and that is the only reason I see such a high odd for him in such track that clearly favors Redbull for winning the qualifying,I doubt he has any penalty either so that is the reason of such high odd.He has 1.45 to win the race which clearly confirms my thinking.

I've just read the news on the link below.

https://racingnews365.com/leclerc-to-take-grid-penalty-at-austin

It says that Charles Leclerc has got a 5-place grid penalty already. The reason is that Ferrari changed some elements in the engine of his car. They must be preparing the car for next season and they wouldn't refrain from doing these things often in the remaining races also. In the end, there is no championship chance left for him officially.

On the other hand, he is still in a fierce competition with Perez for the second position. There is only one point between them in the driver standings now. I assume that Leclerc wouldn't like to lose this place at least to Perez at the end of the season. If this "improvement" in the engine helps Leclerc then he might get a good advantage over Perez in the rest of the season. He needs to drop the individual mistake level to minimum at the same time.

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 19, 2022, 04:58:28 PM

Even though Verstappen has officially become the champion the season is still continuing for all of us here especially. We are on another race week and the location is the USA this time.

This race was dominated by Lewis Hamilton in the past for long years until 2017. But since then we have seen different drivers winning the race like Kimi, Bottas and Verstappen respectively. Verstappen is the biggest favourite to win again now. Maybe he is the champion but we all know how much competitive he is in every condition. He would still fight for winning the rest of the races. I've checked the odds for qualifying session as well and seen this:

There is a very small gap between these drivers for pole and it isn't surprising of course. Leclerc has won 9 poles in this season so far. So it might be worth betting on Leclerc to win pole position in this race.

There is but one big problem for us if we go for Leclerc,the track here has decent straight points which would clearly favor Verstappen to win the Pole Position for this race if the qualifying happens in normal conditions and I have not seen any rain predicted for that time until now.I know though that Verstappen maybe won't give 100% anymore out of him as he is already Champion and that is the only reason I see such a high odd for him in such track that clearly favors Redbull for winning the qualifying,I doubt he has any penalty either so that is the reason of such high odd.He has 1.45 to win the race which clearly confirms my thinking.

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Even though Verstappen has officially become the champion the season is still continuing for all of us here especially. We are on another race week and the location is the USA this time.

This race was dominated by Lewis Hamilton in the past for long years until 2017. But since then we have seen different drivers winning the race like Kimi, Bottas and Verstappen respectively. Verstappen is the biggest favourite to win again now. Maybe he is the champion but we all know how much competitive he is in every condition. He would still fight for winning the rest of the races. I've checked the odds for qualifying session as well and seen this:

There is a very small gap between these drivers for pole and it isn't surprising of course. Leclerc has won 9 poles in this season so far. So it might be worth betting on Leclerc to win pole position in this race.

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 14, 2022, 04:58:47 PM

Quote from: darxiaomi on October 13, 2022, 08:39:02 PM

So for all the Mercedes haters who all the times said ," FIA works for MErcedes", this again show this its not that way, Mercedes has to swallow first the cheated engine of Ferrari in 2019, the "Steal" of one driver championship in Abu Dhabi, and now RB making what they want to ensure the title by exceding the budge.

I agree with you CLS63, FIA needs to improve and fast, and even i agree with you with the punishment.

By the way I have heard that Toto Wolff is planning to exceed the budget by the same amount next season. He is just waiting for Red Bull's punishment to become official. If the punishment is only a monetary fine then Mercedes are also going to do the same. Because they are also one of the richest teams and this kind of a punishment wouldn't harm them at all.

To be honest, I believe this is clever of him. They are already angry with FIA for letting Red Bull get away with this and they want to play the game by the rules from now on. If they follow in the footsteps of Red Bull then maybe they could become more advantageous next season.

Next season I doubt this will play a big role that impacts the performance,I think so because almost all the teams have started way to early to prepare the car for the next season and they most likely will be able to bring a much better car compared to the ones they had this year.If the difference is little from team to team which is expected because the teams are working far more for the next year car than they have for this year car then it can come in handy to spend a little more over the budget to fix these little flaws and if Redbull just gets a monetary fine,yes this is a true smart move from Totto Wolff.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on October 13, 2022, 08:39:02 PM

So for all the Mercedes haters who all the times said ," FIA works for MErcedes", this again show this its not that way, Mercedes has to swallow first the cheated engine of Ferrari in 2019, the "Steal" of one driver championship in Abu Dhabi, and now RB making what they want to ensure the title by exceding the budge.

I agree with you CLS63, FIA needs to improve and fast, and even i agree with you with the punishment.

By the way I have heard that Toto Wolff is planning to exceed the budget by the same amount next season. He is just waiting for Red Bull's punishment to become official. If the punishment is only a monetary fine then Mercedes are also going to do the same. Because they are also one of the richest teams and this kind of a punishment wouldn't harm them at all.

To be honest, I believe this is clever of him. They are already angry with FIA for letting Red Bull get away with this and they want to play the game by the rules from now on. If they follow in the footsteps of Red Bull then maybe they could become more advantageous next season.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on October 13, 2022, 08:39:02 PM

So for all the Mercedes haters who all the times said ," FIA works for MErcedes", this again show this its not that way, Mercedes has to swallow first the cheated engine of Ferrari in 2019, the "Steal" of one driver championship in Abu Dhabi, and now RB making what they want to ensure the title by exceding the budge.

I agree with you CLS63, FIA needs to improve and fast, and even i agree with you with the punishment.

Mercedes era has ended just like any other era in F1 that can't go on forever.Why no one was blaming Redbull before they started to win,no one really cared what they were doing and if they were doing it correctly or were they abiding by the rule as no one cares for a team who is not winning.A lot of things immediately change and our point of view also changes when a certain team starts to win.We cannot make the Championship better by deleting some points as Redbull is on another planet this year.

The only mistake FIA has made is to not control the spending of the teams before starting the season and punish anyone who goes above the limits put in place by FIA as simple as that.

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