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Quote from: Harkorede on April 02, 2023, 02:52:18 PM

I have always been of the opinion that Graham Potter wasn't in my opinion worthy to coach Chelsea and the club was way too big for him, just like Pochettino managing a team like PSG, however, I still don't think by any means that Graham Potter is a terrible coach, he only just chose to manage the wrong club or maybe even the right the club but at the wrong time.

He wasn’t worthy of the job but he was in an awkward position. Boehly was just buying players like on FIFA. Tyere has been no real master plan, It’s just been spend an obscene amount of money on very average players. Kimd of like throwing loads of horse crap up a wall and hoping some of it sticks. So far their big spending spree looks like a big waste of a lot of money.

Chelsea are oke of the worst teams for sacking managers quickly, Potter never really stood a chance did he. The Chelsea job is a poisoned chalice, Potter is better off not managing them. His career won’t be too badly dakaged because everybody gets sacked at Chelsea.

Chelsea have been a joke all season, probably worse than my team LFC because of the money spent. Having said that, Tuesday night is battle of the flops of the season, Chelsea vs LFC, aka El Shitico.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 02, 2023, 04:12:46 PM

So no one here in the pool talking about the really bad results of Manchester United (which is the last time I bet on those f*ckers) as they screwed all of my tickets tonight,I had them to win,I had them win or draw as I thought that would be the worst it could happen to them and I also had them both teams to score and none of these bets came true.Their recent form has made them not be so comfortable in the top 4 as Tottenham most probably will surpass them tomorrow as I am sure they will win against Everton in tomorrow night game.Things are becoming complicated for them yet no one says a thing about Ten Haag but everybody speaks about Potter,aren't they doing the same results in the last 3 games?

I have avoided betting on United for a long time for one simple reason: look at their game schedule. After the World Cup, this is the worst game schedule of any team. It is impossible to ensure stable results when you are exhausted.
By the way, because of this result, the most affected of all ... Liverpool! Grin

If earlier they had to get around Tottenham and finish off Newcastle, now Newcastle seems to have become a little further, but the fact that United lost points did not change anything.

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So no one here in the pool talking about the really bad results of Manchester United (which is the last time I bet on those f*ckers) as they screwed all of my tickets tonight,I had them to win,I had them win or draw as I thought that would be the worst it could happen to them and I also had them both teams to score and none of these bets came true.Their recent form has made them not be so comfortable in the top 4 as Tottenham most probably will surpass them tomorrow as I am sure they will win against Everton in tomorrow night game.Things are becoming complicated for them yet no one says a thing about Ten Haag but everybody speaks about Potter,aren't they doing the same results in the last 3 games?

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 01, 2023, 04:55:58 PM

This is the same club that won the Champions League two years ago, and you think Potter isn't a problem? Come on, man.

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First Tuchel was the cancer, despite winning the champions league just two years ago, and reached 5 finals, If I remember correctly.

I have always been of the opinion that Graham Potter wasn't in my opinion worthy to coach Chelsea and the club was way too big for him, just like Pochettino managing a team like PSG, however, I still don't think by any means that Graham Potter is a terrible coach, he only just chose to manage the wrong club or maybe even the right the club but at the wrong time.

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Quote from: arimamib on April 02, 2023, 08:08:23 AM

Is this Potter main mistake, of course I will say that this is really his fault in building a squad in a better direction. There has been no progress at all on the revamp they made in the transfer window. Spending £ 282 million I think it was quite useless this season because Chelsea failed in every way in every game. Next season Chelsea is not in the champions league or europa league, a bad thing for them this season.

Nagelsmaan will be a big favorite if Chelsea send a letter of dismissal for Potter. Something has to change for chelsea because we are already overwhelmed to make memes for them. Come on, Tood Boehly, make a wise decision like Bayern Munich did.

Do you think Bayern made a wise decision? Hmmm... will see.
As for Potter, I haven't checked but it looks like his "accomplishments" as head coach are record breaking in a negative way (of course, if you do not take into account teams from the survival zone that change their coach). I don't know if he will be sacked after the games against Real Madrid (if Chelsea loses) but if Chelsea show weak-willed football then the management will not have much choice.

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Quote from: arimamib on April 02, 2023, 08:08:23 AM

Is this Potter main mistake, of course I will say that this is really his fault in building a squad in a better direction. There has been no progress at all on the revamp they made in the transfer window. Spending £ 282 million I think it was quite useless this season because Chelsea failed in every way in every game. Next season Chelsea is not in the champions league or europa league, a bad thing for them this season.

Nagelsmaan will be a big favorite if Chelsea send a letter of dismissal for Potter. Something has to change for chelsea because we are already overwhelmed to make memes for them. Come on, Tood Boehly, make a wise decision like Bayern Munich did.

I doubt it would change anything even if they fire him and sign Nagelsmaan as the time left for this season simply does not permit it for any new coach to bring some improvements and that is why Chelsea management is keeping Potter as they believe in a long term project despite results not going their way.I am sure that they will come back in the following games,they just need to find the balance as I don't think 282 million pounds are useless in any way for any team and the coach just needs some time to instill his view in the players and for it to come to life in the field.I know it looks really gloomy right now but I am confident they will come back and next season they will be a really strong team and contenders to the title.

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Is this Potter main mistake, of course I will say that this is really his fault in building a squad in a better direction. There has been no progress at all on the revamp they made in the transfer window. Spending £ 282 million I think it was quite useless this season because Chelsea failed in every way in every game. Next season Chelsea is not in the champions league or europa league, a bad thing for them this season.

Nagelsmaan will be a big favorite if Chelsea send a letter of dismissal for Potter. Something has to change for chelsea because we are already overwhelmed to make memes for them. Come on, Tood Boehly, make a wise decision like Bayern Munich did.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on April 01, 2023, 04:20:34 PM

I wasn't even happy when we took the lead today - I somehow felt that City will eventually turn it around.
They did it with class and fully deserve the win - they were the dominant team overall.

Thank God for Chelsea so we aren't the laughing stock of the league.

Yeah we are a joke, mate. Has a club ever fallen off the cliff as badly as we have, we have gone from arguably the best team in world football in 2020 to a mid table Premier League club in 2023.

Two and a half years, has that level of decline ever happened before?

In the future we are going to be used as the perfect example what you don't do when you reach the top. You are supposed to recruit top players whilst you’re on top because once you start to regress it’s so much harder to get back to the top.

Would Henderson get into any other top 6 team, let alone captain them? Klopp has been too loyal to old, declining players. The midfield needs major surgery in the summer, if we don’t Klopp will be out of a job by Christmas.

We have picked up 12 points out of a possible 42 away from home this season which is less than Southampton and Leicester City.

Eight away defeats in the Premier League is our most since 2014-15 when Brendan Rodgers’ reign fell off the rails.

We are on course for our worst ever PL season.

Ironically it’s Chelsea away next……

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Quote from: swogerino on April 01, 2023, 03:14:46 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on April 01, 2023, 02:12:04 PM

I thought Liverpool was the joke of the day / week, I have totally forgotten there is some bigger joke in the west of London under Graham Potter, 27 goal attempts, and 8 shots on goal, but they lost the game to the only 2 shots on target the conceded.

They have been stuck to the 10th position for way to long, but at least they can take a breather by dropping to the 11th position.

I know Chelsea's owner(s), have reiterated severally that Potter is going to be Chelsea's coach for long, but could this be the final straw ?

I think Chelsea management knows very well that they cannot find a better replacement than Potter for the time being.I am sure they are evaluating every performance of him and to be honest I saw the game and Chelsea upped their game much better than Aston Villa but Villa was cynical as they scored two goals out of two shots while Chelsea despite having a lot of good players in them they are still struggling to get the result as for the game I saw and I am convinced Potter has improved Chelsea game,it is just that bad luck and results are not coming yet.I expect a better Chelsea with each passing game but for this season I think they are out of any fight for any European spots with these kind of results unfortunately.

Man your post made me so upset! there hundreds of better options out there without who are by far better than school teacher Potter.

What improvement? Aston Villa were the better tactical team on the pitch for the entire 90 minutes; don't let the 1000 sideways passes between Enzo and Kovasic fool you into thinking we were better than Aston Villa today. Potter can't even field a full lineup; we have a fully fit team plus new players, but he's still playing players out of position. Lotus Cheeek has no business on RWB, James has no business on RCB, Cuccurella has no business on LCB, and Kante has no business on the RW. Chelsea is a pain to watch, from passing to positioning to marking. We've never had it so bad in the last two decades.

This is the same club that won the Champions League two years ago, and you think Potter isn't a problem? Come on, man.

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I wasn't even happy when we took the lead today - I somehow felt that City will eventually turn it around.
They did it with class and fully deserve the win - they were the dominant team overall.

Thank God for Chelsea so we aren't the laughing stock of the league.

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Quote from: Harkorede on April 01, 2023, 02:12:04 PM

I know Chelsea's owner(s), have reiterated severally that Potter is going to be Chelsea's coach for long, but could this be the final straw ?

Hell no, he is going to stay until the end of the season for sure based on their statements but pretty sure that he wont be getting anything decent for Chelsea this season. Chelsea is most likely not going to get to top 5 this season and I dont think they are going to win against Real Madrid on UCL either so sacking him after the season end is the only thing the board managements need to do

Imagine if Potter stays for another season because the owner said so then I expect Chelsea's fans will be so furious about this lol

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Quote from: Harkorede on April 01, 2023, 02:12:04 PM

I thought Liverpool was the joke of the day / week, I have totally forgotten there is some bigger joke in the west of London under Graham Potter, 27 goal attempts, and 8 shots on goal, but they lost the game to the only 2 shots on target the conceded.

They have been stuck to the 10th position for way to long, but at least they can take a breather by dropping to the 11th position.

I know Chelsea's owner(s), have reiterated severally that Potter is going to be Chelsea's coach for long, but could this be the final straw ?

I think Chelsea management knows very well that they cannot find a better replacement than Potter for the time being.I am sure they are evaluating every performance of him and to be honest I saw the game and Chelsea upped their game much better than Aston Villa but Villa was cynical as they scored two goals out of two shots while Chelsea despite having a lot of good players in them they are still struggling to get the result as for the game I saw and I am convinced Potter has improved Chelsea game,it is just that bad luck and results are not coming yet.I expect a better Chelsea with each passing game but for this season I think they are out of any fight for any European spots with these kind of results unfortunately.

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I thought Liverpool was the joke of the day / week, I have totally forgotten there is some bigger joke in the west of London under Graham Potter, 27 goal attempts, and 8 shots on goal, but they lost the game to the only 2 shots on target the conceded.

They have been stuck to the 10th position for way to long, but at least they can take a breather by dropping to the 11th position.

I know Chelsea's owner(s), have reiterated severally that Potter is going to be Chelsea's coach for long, but could this be the final straw ?

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Quote from: darxiaomi on April 01, 2023, 11:00:39 AM

Ohhhhh come on man in the last ball a goal from Crystal Palace, i have an exact with the 1-1 and for worst with tha 2-1 give an exact to mitchr, incredible man.....

About Man City Liverpool i thinked more people was gonna put Liverpool waiting for a surprise, but seems like not.

And Brentford... i dont know what to put with them.

I had them exact 1-1,had exact 1-1 also Bournemouth and thought to be winning quite a lot of points only to be shocked to see the results of just 2.5 points so far in this round which so far was not with surprise results to say the truth but I have difficulties in finding balanced level teams when fighting against each other.

Brighton also I never understood why they had an odd of 1.63 but I got deceived by that odd and not only put them a win in the predictor but also bet quite some money on them as I thought they were playing at home and their recent form was better than Brentford,only to find out for the thousand time that you can almost never win money by betting on the Premier League Grin

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Ohhhhh come on man in the last ball a goal from Crystal Palace, i have an exact with the 1-1 and for worst with tha 2-1 give an exact to mitchr, incredible man.....

About Man City Liverpool i thinked more people was gonna put Liverpool waiting for a surprise, but seems like not.

And Brentford... i dont know what to put with them.

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Damn Liverpool! I was so hopeful for them that I made a 1-1 prediction even though it was against all odds. Now they have 20 minutes to equalize, but I don't believe it. It seems that Liverpool have enough strength for the first 20-45 minutes and then this team falls apart if the opponent is strong.
As for the chances for the top 4, they are, as the club has a very easy end to the season, but now they will suffer 3 games in a row.

I too gave Liverpool more hopes

Now I'm rooting for LFC to score another one, and I will get a CLOSE result.

But whatever happens, I will never get EXACT this time. Damn, Man. City, you are so good!
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1-1 and 3-2 are very different results... and I think mine is much closer! Grin

If you look at the statistics, one goal scored for Liverpool is the ceiling and those who bet on BTTS should be happy that it worked.

Quote from: Igebotz on April 01, 2023, 09:30:00 AM

NOW I understand what Loserpool said about Klopp month ago when I wanted him fired. Looking at the level of Loserpool quality and what he did with this set of players three seasons ago is worth appreciating. Man is managing a complete set of players with the same low fighting mentality. This is not the first time they have only been in a game for only 25 mins. It has now become the norm to score first goal, miss 100 clear-cut opportunities, concede one, and stop fighting.
did same thing against Real Madrid.

Salah and Gakpo are the only two players at the club who have the right mentality right now; the rest are just average players. Maybe one day we'll talk about VDJ, Alisson, and Trent, but not right now.

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It will be interesting to see how Liverpool fare in their next game against another loser, Chelsea. At the moment Liverpool have 3 defeats in a row and a fourth would be a disaster, but Chelsea are in a similar position. I don't even know what to predict here.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 01, 2023, 08:05:46 AM

Damn Liverpool! I was so hopeful for them that I made a 1-1 prediction even though it was against all odds. Now they have 20 minutes to equalize, but I don't believe it. It seems that Liverpool have enough strength for the first 20-45 minutes and then this team falls apart if the opponent is strong.
As for the chances for the top 4, they are, as the club has a very easy end to the season, but now they will suffer 3 games in a row.

NOW I understand what Loserpool said about Klopp month ago when I wanted him fired. Looking at the level of Loserpool quality and what he did with this set of players three seasons ago is worth appreciating. Man is managing a complete set of players with the same low fighting mentality. This is not the first time they have only been in a game for only 25 mins. It has now become the norm to score first goal, miss 100 clear-cut opportunities, concede one, and stop fighting.
did same thing against Real Madrid.

Salah and Gakpo are the only two players at the club who have the right mentality right now; the rest are just average players. Maybe one day we'll talk about VDJ, Alisson, and Trent, but not right now.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 01, 2023, 08:05:46 AM

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Yeah,Manchester City were dominating the game even in the first half and Liverpool simply has not the firepower to come back as they are still suffering although there is time.From the pressure being all in Manchester City in the end of the first half,it is now the pressure completely on Arsenal but I doubt Arsenal will have problems winning against Leeds.The odd of 1.29 for them to me is low but I think they are going to get a narrow win.

For Liverpool it is a shame though that they were in advantage and completely lost it and could not do a better job in this game,their fight to get a spot for the Champions League it comes and it becomes even more difficult to achieve.

Damn Liverpool! I was so hopeful for them that I made a 1-1 prediction even though it was against all odds. Now they have 20 minutes to equalize, but I don't believe it. It seems that Liverpool have enough strength for the first 20-45 minutes and then this team falls apart if the opponent is strong.
As for the chances for the top 4, they are, as the club has a very easy end to the season, but now they will suffer 3 games in a row.

I too gave Liverpool more hopes

Now I'm rooting for LFC to score another one, and I will get a CLOSE result.

But whatever happens, I will never get EXACT this time. Damn, Man. City, you are so good!

Btw, They got me with this

It happens every fkn 1st April: I believe the joke for a couple of seconds!

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Quote from: swogerino on April 01, 2023, 08:00:20 AM

Yeah,Manchester City were dominating the game even in the first half and Liverpool simply has not the firepower to come back as they are still suffering although there is time.From the pressure being all in Manchester City in the end of the first half,it is now the pressure completely on Arsenal but I doubt Arsenal will have problems winning against Leeds.The odd of 1.29 for them to me is low but I think they are going to get a narrow win.

For Liverpool it is a shame though that they were in advantage and completely lost it and could not do a better job in this game,their fight to get a spot for the Champions League it comes and it becomes even more difficult to achieve.

Damn Liverpool! I was so hopeful for them that I made a 1-1 prediction even though it was against all odds. Now they have 20 minutes to equalize, but I don't believe it. It seems that Liverpool have enough strength for the first 20-45 minutes and then this team falls apart if the opponent is strong.
As for the chances for the top 4, they are, as the club has a very easy end to the season, but now they will suffer 3 games in a row.

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Quote from: buwaytress on April 01, 2023, 07:32:03 AM

Yeah 16 games. Chance to take all Slam points but I went for broke and predicted plenty of upsets, just only the first one not going too well. Had Salah made the pass properly to Jota minutes before we conceded, could have been a different half but we are living dangerously.

Re Liverpool partnership, yeah I think they mulled the possibility at one point but that's probably different now with values and direction and all that. I do sort of miss Carlsberg for some reason heh heh.

Only one I ever worn is stuff I bought at Anfield but it has become so threadbare it is just a black tee now.

BTTS was the surest thing today and it hit before 30 mins. COYR!

Yeah,Manchester City were dominating the game even in the first half and Liverpool simply has not the firepower to come back as they are still suffering although there is time.From the pressure being all in Manchester City in the end of the first half,it is now the pressure completely on Arsenal but I doubt Arsenal will have problems winning against Leeds.The odd of 1.29 for them to me is low but I think they are going to get a narrow win.

For Liverpool it is a shame though that they were in advantage and completely lost it and could not do a better job in this game,their fight to get a spot for the Champions League it comes and it becomes even more difficult to achieve.

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