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Well. What a disappointment. No Fulham upset (a draw itself was not the likely result but feels a letdwon) and no big money goals. Thought Chelski had it in them even before their spending spree.

Back to the drawing board, Potter.
I never expected a Livarpool fan to be the first to throw the first stone, we are brothers in arms, man. Haha

Graham Potter is literally out of time, his team is tactically dead, and what kind of manager would start a player whose head was at PSG just a few days ago? Ziyech's mind is elsewhere, and you chose to start him despite having more capable players on the bench.

Using Kai as a false 9 when you have D. Fofana and Aubu on the team will always be amusing, and his substitutions isn't any better either. Another disgraceful performance.
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Well. What a disappointment. No Fulham upset (a draw itself was not the likely result but feels a letdwon) and no big money goals. Thought Chelski had it in them even before their spending spree.

Back to the drawing board, Potter.

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Odds on Chelsea still aren't dropping, after all the money they have spent they are still at almost 1.6 at home against Fulham.
I honestly feel that odds on Chelsea and Liverpool winning are unrealistically high this week, combined they are at 3 to 1.

I placed some bets already, and will probably go with a Chelsea handicap win as soon as the lineups are out. Fulham is not as good as their results say, whereas Chelsea isn't as bad as theirs currently show.

I think that Chelsea is in front of a difficult encounter just an hour from now and in the pool I have gone for a win for them but the reality is that it won't be that easy as the pool prediction and many prediction sites are favoring Chelsea to even to win to nil.It is a life and death this game for Potter are saying a lot of people and analysts but personally I think that Chelsea management should be wise enough to know that they can't save that much from this season based on their recent form so they should assure Potter of his continuing managing Chelsea and hope for the best for this season while the next one they should raise their stake and aim high because of all these bought players they brought in.

The Blues have a tough run of fixtures coming up, with games against Manchester City, Leicester City, Manchester United and Wolves all on the horizon. Potter will be hoping that his side can pick up some points in these games and put themselves back in the hunt for a top-four finish.

I’m going with blues to win 2:1
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Odds on Chelsea still aren't dropping, after all the money they have spent they are still at almost 1.6 at home against Fulham.
I honestly feel that odds on Chelsea and Liverpool winning are unrealistically high this week, combined they are at 3 to 1.

I placed some bets already, and will probably go with a Chelsea handicap win as soon as the lineups are out. Fulham is not as good as their results say, whereas Chelsea isn't as bad as theirs currently show.

I think that Chelsea is in front of a difficult encounter just an hour from now and in the pool I have gone for a win for them but the reality is that it won't be that easy as the pool prediction and many prediction sites are favoring Chelsea to even to win to nil.It is a life and death this game for Potter are saying a lot of people and analysts but personally I think that Chelsea management should be wise enough to know that they can't save that much from this season based on their recent form so they should assure Potter of his continuing managing Chelsea and hope for the best for this season while the next one they should raise their stake and aim high because of all these bought players they brought in.
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I see you are happy and it could work out, but you guys could have at least bought one proper striker that guarantees 20 goals per season in that budget.

Sort of strange to have 10 wingers in the club without proper target man. If you guys had somebody like Drogba or Torres these days I would be much more convinced about success of the project. Something Lukaku should have been but failed spectacularly.

Yes, I am. This is the second time we are completely overhauling the team; the first time didn't go so well because they were all old and we bought them in a panic, but I'm confident these guys will hit the ground running for the remaining fixtures.

We're both aware of how difficult it is to find a decent striker in January; the striker market is always the most difficult; there are plenty of good midfielders and defenders, but few proven strikers. Let's see if Potter can bring in a decent striker in the summer or if Potter sticks with Lukaku to do us another favor now that we have some decent players on the team. BTW We also got D. Fofana ( striker)

Auba dropped out of the champions league squad. Bad decision if you ask me.
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Odds on Chelsea still aren't dropping, after all the money they have spent they are still at almost 1.6 at home against Fulham.
I honestly feel that odds on Chelsea and Liverpool winning are unrealistically high this week, combined they are at 3 to 1.

I placed some bets already, and will probably go with a Chelsea handicap win as soon as the lineups are out. Fulham is not as good as their results say, whereas Chelsea isn't as bad as theirs currently show.
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What a terrible season for Liverpool. Can't seem to sell the club, so we're stuck with owners that don't want us, we've had one of our worst seasons in recent memory, definitely our worst under Klopp. We've just had the chance to mitigate some of our problems by making a few signings, and we basically didn't do anything. Especially, to that midfield that needed reinforcement. Looks like we've accepted our fate this season. I guess we must be holding out for some big moves in the summer, right?

I'm going for a Fulham win, Arsenal win, Aston Villa win, and Brentford win this weekend. Liverpool have Wolves, so we'll probably lose against then, let's be honest. We haven't had the best of luck with them recently.

I hope so, but you know what all the cultures say about hope. Springs eternal, last to die, has many children, etc. I'm just trying to still watch football with enthusiasm now. Bad results I can stomach for a time when the team plays well but it's hard when even the game on the pitch isn't nice.

Going for Chelsea (huh?) and Arsenal both betting wise but actually picked an Arsenal loss -- only to try and win a yellow cap.

And yeah Konate, gonna miss Real Madrid. Guess it's back to good old Nat Philips... can't imagine if we successfully sold him this season.
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Remember to get your predictions in before Chelsea vs Fulham tonight at 8PM GMT. I've gone for a Fulham victory in the end. Even though, Fulham haven't been the best since being promoted, I fancy them here. Chelsea are playing at home though which could impact things. Liverpool have Wolves again tomorrow, I'm not expecting too much from that. Arsenal should be able to secure a win against Everton. Unless, they begin to slip up from here on out.

Also, Liverpool picking up even more injuries. What a bloody season, it seems we can't catch a break, and we just continue to pick up injuries. Konate is out for at least two weeks, and he's probably been our best player recently. Plus, I know from previous announcements it'll probably be a lot longer than the quoted two weeks. We usually give that number as a baseline it seems.
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...necessitating the signing of all of our top targets to 8-year contracts (with salary reductions for failure to qualify for the Champions League). The new years starts next summer to stop Todd Boehly madness Grin
That is quite risky to give all those unproven players 8 year long contracts. I read about it on twitter but thought it must be a mistake, who would be crazy enough to do that. It works superb if they continue to develop and become the players everybody expects them to be but reality is that most of them don't do that and Chelsea has a history of making solid players bad.

What happens when player with high salary and 8 year contract plays bad? Top clubs don't want to buy him while lower tier clubs have no many for his wages. And you don't have a way out unless player is willing to take wage reduction and go somewhere. Problem is nobody likes wage reductions Smiley
Honestly, we paid for their entire career. I warned you that Todd is out of control; those players will be at the club until they are 30 or older; this is a tremendous gamble, but if the players do well, the club will save a ton of money over the next eight years. According to what I've been informed, their salary increments/reduction is based on how well they perform, which is another approach to encourage them to give their best. Any player who doesn't perform to expectations will go on loan for the remainder of his contract, just like Bakayoko. This simple.

The only possibility to spend above €300m while avoiding the FFP restrictions was to sign a 7–8 year deal.
I see you are happy and it could work out, but you guys could have at least bought one proper striker that guarantees 20 goals per season in that budget.

Sort of strange to have 10 wingers in the club without proper target man. If you guys had somebody like Drogba or Torres these days I would be much more convinced about success of the project. Something Lukaku should have been but failed spectacularly.
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...necessitating the signing of all of our top targets to 8-year contracts (with salary reductions for failure to qualify for the Champions League). The new years starts next summer to stop Todd Boehly madness Grin
That is quite risky to give all those unproven players 8 year long contracts. I read about it on twitter but thought it must be a mistake, who would be crazy enough to do that. It works superb if they continue to develop and become the players everybody expects them to be but reality is that most of them don't do that and Chelsea has a history of making solid players bad.

What happens when player with high salary and 8 year contract plays bad? Top clubs don't want to buy him while lower tier clubs have no many for his wages. And you don't have a way out unless player is willing to take wage reduction and go somewhere. Problem is nobody likes wage reductions Smiley
Honestly, we paid for their entire career. I warned you that Todd is out of control; those players will be at the club until they are 30 or older; this is a tremendous gamble, but if the players do well, the club will save a ton of money over the next eight years. According to what I've been informed, their salary increments/reduction is based on how well they perform, which is another approach to encourage them to give their best. Any player who doesn't perform to expectations will go on loan for the remainder of his contract, just like Bakayoko. This simple.

The only possibility to spend above €300m while avoiding the FFP restrictions was to sign a 7–8 year deal.
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...necessitating the signing of all of our top targets to 8-year contracts (with salary reductions for failure to qualify for the Champions League). The new years starts next summer to stop Todd Boehly madness Grin
That is quite risky to give all those unproven players 8 year long contracts. I read about it on twitter but thought it must be a mistake, who would be crazy enough to do that. It works superb if they continue to develop and become the players everybody expects them to be but reality is that most of them don't do that and Chelsea has a history of making solid players bad.

What happens when player with high salary and 8 year contract plays bad? Top clubs don't want to buy him while lower tier clubs have no many for his wages. And you don't have a way out unless player is willing to take wage reduction and go somewhere. Problem is nobody likes wage reductions Smiley

Im in the exact same line as you, what its not going like planned?. I know they can work or create another by-pass like, i dont know, loan that player and the other team take the salary, but in some way in the future you can have again a bottleneck. But yes they are really convinced and its ok seeing the development of thinks they know they can hack again the system.
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...necessitating the signing of all of our top targets to 8-year contracts (with salary reductions for failure to qualify for the Champions League). The new years starts next summer to stop Todd Boehly madness Grin
That is quite risky to give all those unproven players 8 year long contracts. I read about it on twitter but thought it must be a mistake, who would be crazy enough to do that. It works superb if they continue to develop and become the players everybody expects them to be but reality is that most of them don't do that and Chelsea has a history of making solid players bad.

What happens when player with high salary and 8 year contract plays bad? Top clubs don't want to buy him while lower tier clubs have no many for his wages. And you don't have a way out unless player is willing to take wage reduction and go somewhere. Problem is nobody likes wage reductions Smiley
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Let me remind you that Potter assembled those recruitment teams; there is no way they would go for a player not on his A or B list, and BTW, I don't think there was any media hype for the Fofana, Badiashile, and Madueke deals; they were all secret scouts deals; the only deals we could argue received media attention were the Mudryk and J. Felix deals, and that was because some of the top clubs were interested in them. Chelsea was the only club to make direct contact with Benfica, and the deal received so much attention due to the price tag and the manner in which it was concluded between the clubs. Nothing has been done behind Potter's back, in my opinion.

You sound very much to have an insider feeding you with these information that are rather limited to the public, huh. Fofana was also a deal borne out of extreme desperation as well, hence the reason why Leicester were able to capatilse on Chelsea's desperation.
I wasn't referring to Wesley Fofana. I was talking about David Fofana, our new striker; I'm sure you didn't know that, but the D. Fofana, Santos, Badiashile, and Madueke deals were pure underground masterclass from our scouting department; nobody saw it coming. One amusing aspect of the current transfer is that every player has a release clause, which must be paid unless the club decides to reduce it. Gavi, Pedric, and Vini Jr all have €1b release clauses, which is the Laliga team's way of telling you to Fuck off. He's not for sale.

I'm not saying that those deals were done without Potter's consent of course, but that doesn't mean those were his solely his choices of players, I really don't know what coach is already scouting for players for a club that he doesn't even have any idea he was going to manage, that said I don't think a club trying to build for future players go for them in the more tensed January and more so in the final days and dying moments of the deadline, that could only suggest nothing but extreme desperation, and need for immediate result.
The only reason the deal progressed to deadline was because of Rui Costa. After our initial offer was turned down, the club moved on to other targets, with the intention of returning in the summer. However, the Twitter space we had with Todd Boehly and the new FFP (5-year maximum contract) rules changed everything, necessitating the signing of all of our top targets to 8-year contracts (with salary reductions for failure to qualify for the Champions League). The new years starts next summer to stop Todd Boehly madness Grin

But Arsenal got Trossard one of their best players this season without having to try too hard.

Yes, his contract was only about to expire in 5 months and he had no intention of renewing it. However, the Arsenal bid was too fantastic to let go for someone at his age and contract length.
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I'm going for a Fulham win, Arsenal win, Aston Villa win, and Brentford win this weekend. Liverpool have Wolves, so we'll probably lose against then, let's be honest. We haven't had the best of luck with them recently.

you are betting on some underdogs like Fulham, not sure if they will be able to pull a win tomorrow against Chelsea
looking at odds, Newcastle seem as good value, they were low on scoring in several last rounds, but West Ham should be a good opportunity to change their luck, and win

but, overall, there was a two week break, and transfer window as well, so some unexpected results should come this round

Fulham could win imho.  So betting on Fulham draw no bet at 3.70 or Fulham double chance win or draw at 2.29 are def value bets.  I'm really not sure why the line is so wide as Chelsea has a lot of injuries and Joao Felix can't play because of the red card.  Lol.  And I hear Reece James and Ben Chilwell are doubtful.  I think Fulham could at least get a goal in.

I have the match 1 - 1 in the pool.  

I was gonna give up but I thought fk it, I'll try to win a yellow cap every week and get me some free bets.  Lol.
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Wolves away at the weekend & I am not confident.

I actually am, Wolves are terrible. Offensively they are by far the worst team in the league, we played against them twice in the cup recently so we'll know what to expect.

This is one of these games between 2 teams playing horrible football in which individual quality simply has to make a difference. Wolves aren't playing with a lot of tempo so we'll probably be able to control the game easier than usual.

Odds of ~1.85 are huge on a LFC win, I plan to bet heavily on it.
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What a terrible season for Liverpool. Can't seem to sell the club, so we're stuck with owners that don't want us, we've had one of our worst seasons in recent memory, definitely our worst under Klopp. We've just had the chance to mitigate some of our problems by making a few signings, and we basically didn't do anything. Especially, to that midfield that needed reinforcement. Looks like we've accepted our fate this season. I guess we must be holding out for some big moves in the summer, right?

I'm going for a Fulham win, Arsenal win, Aston Villa win, and Brentford win this weekend. Liverpool have Wolves, so we'll probably lose against then, let's be honest. We haven't had the best of luck with them recently.

Liverpool and their fans are going through a difficult period. Disappointment has resulted from a lack of investment in the team, combined with a poor run of form. While it's understandable to hope for better in the summer transfer window, it's critical to stay focused on the present and support the team in the meantime. Good luck with your weekend predictions; it will be fascinating to see how the games unfold.

It’s tough but football goes in cycles. Looks like Arsenal might be starting theirs now. I just really hope we get new owners ASAP, we spend less (net) than most teams in the league on players. It’s just not sustainable to stay competitive at the top table of European football.

I’ve seen us win everything but I’ve seen the bad times too. A true fan stands by their team & I will always do that.

Wolves away at the weekend & I am not confident.
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I'm going for a Fulham win, Arsenal win, Aston Villa win, and Brentford win this weekend. Liverpool have Wolves, so we'll probably lose against then, let's be honest. We haven't had the best of luck with them recently.

you are betting on some underdogs like Fulham, not sure if they will be able to pull a win tomorrow against Chelsea
looking at odds, Newcastle seem as good value, they were low on scoring in several last rounds, but West Ham should be a good opportunity to change their luck, and win

but, overall, there was a two week break, and transfer window as well, so some unexpected results should come this round
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What a terrible season for Liverpool. Can't seem to sell the club, so we're stuck with owners that don't want us, we've had one of our worst seasons in recent memory, definitely our worst under Klopp. We've just had the chance to mitigate some of our problems by making a few signings, and we basically didn't do anything. Especially, to that midfield that needed reinforcement. Looks like we've accepted our fate this season. I guess we must be holding out for some big moves in the summer, right?

I'm going for a Fulham win, Arsenal win, Aston Villa win, and Brentford win this weekend. Liverpool have Wolves, so we'll probably lose against then, let's be honest. We haven't had the best of luck with them recently.

Liverpool and their fans are going through a difficult period. Disappointment has resulted from a lack of investment in the team, combined with a poor run of form. While it's understandable to hope for better in the summer transfer window, it's critical to stay focused on the present and support the team in the meantime. Good luck with your weekend predictions; it will be fascinating to see how the games unfold.
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What a terrible season for Liverpool. Can't seem to sell the club, so we're stuck with owners that don't want us, we've had one of our worst seasons in recent memory, definitely our worst under Klopp. We've just had the chance to mitigate some of our problems by making a few signings, and we basically didn't do anything. Especially, to that midfield that needed reinforcement. Looks like we've accepted our fate this season. I guess we must be holding out for some big moves in the summer, right?

I'm going for a Fulham win, Arsenal win, Aston Villa win, and Brentford win this weekend. Liverpool have Wolves, so we'll probably lose against then, let's be honest. We haven't had the best of luck with them recently.
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Let me remind you that Potter assembled those recruitment teams; there is no way they would go for a player not on his A or B list, and BTW, I don't think there was any media hype for the Fofana, Badiashile, and Madueke deals; they were all secret scouts deals; the only deals we could argue received media attention were the Mudryk and J. Felix deals, and that was because some of the top clubs were interested in them. Chelsea was the only club to make direct contact with Benfica, and the deal received so much attention due to the price tag and the manner in which it was concluded between the clubs. Nothing has been done behind Potter's back, in my opinion.

You sound very much to have an insider feeding you with these information that are rather limited to the public, huh. Fofana was also a deal borne out of extreme desperation as well, hence the reason why Leicester were able to capatilse on Chelsea's desperation.

I'm not saying that those deals were done without Potter's consent of course, but that doesn't mean those were his solely his choices of players, I really don't know what coach is already scouting for players for a club that he doesn't even have any idea he was going to manage, that said I don't think a club trying to build for future players go for them in the more tensed January and more so in the final days and dying moments of the deadline, that could only suggest nothing but extreme desperation, and need for immediate result. The obvious fact I feel right now is that if Chelsea season still end being up worse (let's say failure to make the UCL and Europa League as things currently stand), Potter might not even get to be in-charge come next season.

Brighton is not our academy; they are a serious club that is doing well for itself, so don't expect Potter to get any player he wants from the team simply because he was their formal coach; he wanted Moises, but the club refused to sell. ETH attempted the same thing with Ajax, but we all saw how that turned out.

But Arsenal got Trossard one of their best players this season without having to try too hard.
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