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Quote from: darxiaomi on April 04, 2023, 04:41:22 PM

First of all, im again truly dissapointed with me and with a lot of yours, why?

Well yeah Im abit dissapointed with myself because I wanted those kits really bad but yeah its hard to win the golden cap when majority of the pool are that good in predicting scores

Quote from: darxiaomi on April 04, 2023, 04:41:22 PM

How i dont know that awesome clue and fact!!??. But well im really surprised also for that, because they are two really scoring teams.

It was on the h2h statistics though but I tried to be cheeky by putting down 1-2 for Liverpool because Liverpool is way better than Chelsea even without Potter in it but it ended up with a draw again sucks

Anyway the winner of this round yellow cap is still undecided yet, its pretty tight for the top 3. Normally we would have someone leading by atleast 3-5 points difference

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WELL....... i have TWO things to say.

First of all, im again truly dissapointed with me and with a lot of yours, why?. Because when i was watching the game in my local ESPN Argentina, the commentarist say, "this its gonna be the six draw in a row between this two teams, and the fourth 0-0 in this matches".

How i dont know that awesome clue and fact!!??. But well im really surprised also for that, because they are two really scoring teams.

The second thing its, this draw its by far the worst case scenario for the two teams, but clearly more for Chelsea, because they were in home and they need more the points.

Another comment, VAR in PL its working really strange, the other day when Podence spit to another player but he missed the spit, they dont show him a red card..... its not only the fact its about your intentions.

And today in Villa game was pited by the referee a penalty for Leicester in the last minute, but in the replay it was CRISTAL CLEAR that was not a penalty and also a fault by Leicester player, but they call the referee and make him review the fault..... YES obvisuly the ref say its not penalty after seeing in the VAR the replay, but come on.... it was not necesary.

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Quote from: CLS63 on April 04, 2023, 04:22:30 AM

The top three are starting to open the gap with the others slowly. The competition level for the 1st place in the pool is still very high. After my horrible performance last year it makes me happy to see myself in upper places. I hope I don't fall back to much lower places.

Even though the teams parting their ways with their technical directors usually get better results in their first times I think Liverpool will beat Chelsea away today. If Liverpool don't manage to win this match as well then their chance for top 4 ends completely.

I also predicted Liverpool to win, but in fact it turned out to be the 6th draw in a row ... which is what I was thinking when I made the choice. Now Liverpool's chances for the top 4 are illusory (probably in the region of 15 percent - tomorrow we will find out for sure from bookmakers' quotes, most likely they will be in the range of 6.0-7.0) and this disastrous season will leave an obvious mark on the next one.
As for the pool, I think the closer to the finish line the randomness of the results will increase - some teams will lose motivation, and some will run out of strength (the first contender is United). Perhaps this will have an impact on the distribution of positions.

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Quote from: buwaytress on April 04, 2023, 09:44:57 AM

I'm dumb, so it's a natural yes for me to the question: will I bet on this match. Had stayed away all week because I felt odds weren't good enough. Chelsea will probably spring a proper lineup now they don't have Potter overthinking things...

And yes, Saltor did, at least for the first time this season, the fans were satisfied with our line-up, players returning to their original positions it was a perfect sight to see Enzo, Kovasic, and Kante walking past the Loserpool midfield like no one was watching.

There were some positive attitudes on the pitch today, I saw our defenders diving to the ground to save a ball, thats something we haven't seen in a long time, the players fought so hard, sadly we don't have a proper striker to finish those chances. This Liverpool team is too average; we've never had it so easy this season.

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The games of tonight are about to start after that miserable fail of Tottenham yesterday night but I was smart enough in that game as I predicted that it would not win already as you can see in the picture here.

For tonight though there is money to be made but I have gone for a reasonable bet which is Brighton team Over 1.5 goals and despite the odd being 1.63 and not great I think the chances are high for this to come up.Also I think Aston Villa should win again after that great win against Chelsea and I predict also Liverpool to win against Chelsea and change of coach will not show anything new.

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Quote from: Harkorede on April 04, 2023, 09:14:24 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on April 04, 2023, 06:58:22 AM

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm the only Chelsea fan among millions who believes those signings were all Potter's idea.

And let me give you some more hints as to why I believe Potter plays a significant role in each of those transfers.

Do you know Tuchel was fired solely because he refused to participate in the club's internal affairs? He stated openly in one of his last pre-match press conferences that his only job is to manage the players on the field - Todd Boehly wanted him to help appoint DOF and set up a recruitment team, which he refused, so the new owners had to look for someone (Potter) who ticked those boxes

You're not a fan and you think you have more insider than someone who has been a fan for 33 years? C'mon mate. Why are you attacking me.

This is far from being an attack, and if that's what you think this is, then my sincere apologies, I've just never see you put any form of blame whatsoever on Todd Boehly, but from your explanation too, it just doesn't make any sense to sack a coach over that, and when exactly did it become a coach's job to appoint director of football, from what I learnt as to why Tuchel got sacked, it was due to issues with the board and backroom staff, and he was said to have already lost his dressing respect too, no club owner have kept Tuchel under that circumstance, but sacking a coach just because he wouldn't get involve in the club's politics is pure nonsense and being a fan for 33 years doesn't mean much if you can't differentiate facts from opinions, for you to have implied this was an attack, and I'll stand by my opinion that Potter might not have been the best choice out there for Chelsea and it was indeed a mistake to have gone for him, but It's all on Boehly if you ask me, any other coach would have struggle as well, maybe not this much.

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And yes, if you've been following my posts on the other JollyGodd thread, you'd find 101 episodes of me pointing fingers and calling Todd an idiot multiple times for sacking Tuchel the way he did. I think Tuchel was unhappy with our summer transfer dealings because Todd wasn't able to get him any of his preferred targets, which is how their relationship ended, and Todd said, "From now on, you're going to lead the recruitment process," and Tuchel said, "No my job is to train players only'' they were no longer on the same wavelength.

Tuchel stated that his most recent meeting with the owners lasted only 3 minutes, that the owners wanted a YES SIR pet dog as coach, and that was another box Potter ticked.

And, yes, some coaches prefer to be involved in the club's internal affairs, while others prefer not to. Finally, we can all agree that Harry fcking Graham Potter was never the best man for the job. I've always been the #PotterOut guy

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I'm wondering if Leicester will also get new-manager boost and win, but is it silly to think Nottingham Forest might get something out of crazy Leeds? Steady favourites at home despite only beating Saints and Bournemouth there in the last 7 months...

Quote from: Ulven on April 03, 2023, 02:49:10 PM

Tomorrow we will face the Blues away, and I don't think I will bet on this match. We will see if Liverpool can achieve a victory against Chelsea, which itself has not achieved the desired results this season.

I'm dumb, so it's a natural yes for me to the question: will I bet on this match. Had stayed away all week because I felt odds weren't good enough. Chelsea will probably spring a proper lineup now they don't have Potter overthinking things...

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Quote from: CLS63 on April 04, 2023, 04:22:30 AM

The top three are starting to open the gap with the others slowly. The competition level for the 1st place in the pool is still very high. After my horrible performance last year it makes me happy to see myself in upper places. I hope I don't fall back to much lower places.

Even though the teams parting their ways with their technical directors usually get better results in their first times I think Liverpool will beat Chelsea away today. If Liverpool don't manage to win this match as well then their chance for top 4 ends completely.

Yes , but in this round the gap was close, fortebet really catch us in the top, and the fight for first spot is really tight between me and mitchr, and now fortebet also.

Yesterday we (me and mitchr) went with a really bold prediction, Everton to win.

The only i can see its this season its really hard to predict any match. Today games for example.

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 04, 2023, 06:58:22 AM

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm the only Chelsea fan among millions who believes those signings were all Potter's idea.

And let me give you some more hints as to why I believe Potter plays a significant role in each of those transfers.

Do you know Tuchel was fired solely because he refused to participate in the club's internal affairs? He stated openly in one of his last pre-match press conferences that his only job is to manage the players on the field - Todd Boehly wanted him to help appoint DOF and set up a recruitment team, which he refused, so the new owners had to look for someone (Potter) who ticked those boxes

You're not a fan and you think you have more insider than someone who has been a fan for 33 years? C'mon mate. Why are you attacking me.

This is far from being an attack, and if that's what you think this is, then my sincere apologies, I've just never see you put any form of blame whatsoever on Todd Boehly, but from your explanation too, it just doesn't make any sense to sack a coach over that, and when exactly did it become a coach's job to appoint director of football, from what I learnt as to why Tuchel got sacked, it was due to issues with the board and backroom staff, and he was said to have already lost his dressing respect too, no club owner have kept Tuchel under that circumstance, but sacking a coach just because he wouldn't get involve in the club's politics is pure nonsense and being a fan for 33 years doesn't mean much if you can't differentiate facts from opinions, for you to have implied this was an attack, and I'll stand by my opinion that Potter might not have been the best choice out there for Chelsea and it was indeed a mistake to have gone for him, but It's all on Boehly if you ask me, any other coach would have struggle as well, maybe not this much.

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Quote from: Harkorede on April 03, 2023, 11:17:08 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on April 03, 2023, 04:34:33 PM

Don't blame the owner for spending the way he did; blame the coach for bringing in players he planned to leave on the bench; not a single one of them is a starter or getting a run of games; mudrik, Madueke, Fofana, and Bashilale have spent more time on the bench than they have on the field since they arrived. If they weren't part of his plan, why did he go through so much trouble to get them in the first place? These players are world-class, and if Liverpool fans are willing to give misfiring Darwin two seasons to adjust to the league, then these players who arrived two months ago may also require some time to adjust. The entire players appears unmotivated, and I'm hoping that the new guy can instill some confidence in the team.

It's totally amusing that you're the only person, at least the only Chelsea fan at that who believes that those signings were actually Graham Potters' call to make or he did requested for those signings, Those signings to begin with and the way the occurred obviously showed that they were literally of Todd Boehly's making. I really just don't know if you're only just being naive, or you're just so ignorant of the facts, as a means of blind loyalty to your club.

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm the only Chelsea fan among millions who believes those signings were all Potter's idea.

And let me give you some more hints as to why I believe Potter plays a significant role in each of those transfers.

Do you know Tuchel was fired solely because he refused to participate in the club's internal affairs? He stated openly in one of his last pre-match press conferences that his only job is to manage the players on the field - Todd Boehly wanted him to help appoint DOF and set up a recruitment team, which he refused, so the new owners had to look for someone (Potter) who ticked those boxes

You're not a fan and you think you have more insider than someone who has been a fan for 33 years? C'mon mate. Why are you attacking me.

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The top three are starting to open the gap with the others slowly. The competition level for the 1st place in the pool is still very high. After my horrible performance last year it makes me happy to see myself in upper places. I hope I don't fall back to much lower places.

Even though the teams parting their ways with their technical directors usually get better results in their first times I think Liverpool will beat Chelsea away today. If Liverpool don't manage to win this match as well then their chance for top 4 ends completely.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on April 03, 2023, 05:15:50 PM

What a crazy goal for Everton, amazing shoot by Keane i just see the last 15 minutes of the game and man!, that was no expected, more seeing Lloris like a statue.

-snip

another good finish by Everton, taking point in last minute, similar to Chelsea away match
hopefully, it is going to add to avoiding relegation in the end

Tottenham is story for themselves, missing on CL fight

six matches to go in this round, though that I will be better, but shirt and hoodie are gone

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Quote from: Harkorede on April 03, 2023, 11:17:08 PM

It's totally amusing that you're the only person, at least the only Chelsea fan at that who believes that those signings were actually Graham Potters' call to make or he did requested for those signings, Those signings to begin with and the way the occurred obviously showed that they were literally of Todd Boehly's making. I really just don't know if you're only just being naive, or you're just so ignorant of the facts, as a means of blind loyalty to your club.

I agree they weren't Potter's transfers, but Potter should have done way better with the team he had.
It isn't easy managing 40 first team players and the new coach will have the same issue as Potter.

Still - they had 3 league wins in 13 games since January. It's simply not good enough for a team of such calibre - no matter the circumstances.

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 03, 2023, 04:34:33 PM

Don't blame the owner for spending the way he did; blame the coach for bringing in players he planned to leave on the bench; not a single one of them is a starter or getting a run of games; mudrik, Madueke, Fofana, and Bashilale have spent more time on the bench than they have on the field since they arrived. If they weren't part of his plan, why did he go through so much trouble to get them in the first place? These players are world-class, and if Liverpool fans are willing to give misfiring Darwin two seasons to adjust to the league, then these players who arrived two months ago may also require some time to adjust. The entire players appears unmotivated, and I'm hoping that the new guy can instill some confidence in the team.

It's totally amusing that you're the only person, at least the only Chelsea fan at that who believes that those signings were actually Graham Potters' call to make or he did requested for those signings, Those signings to begin with and the way the occurred obviously showed that they were literally of Todd Boehly's making. I really just don't know if you're only just being naive, or you're just so ignorant of the facts, as a means of blind loyalty to your club.

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What a crazy goal for Everton, amazing shoot by Keane i just see the last 15 minutes of the game and man!, that was no expected, more seeing Lloris like a statue.

But asides of that goal, Totenham..... again, again? And im refering about being with 1 more player than the rival and being dominated by a team with 10 players.
This happen against Southhampon and now again, and we are talking about a shit teams in comparison with Totenham.

I was going for a 1-0 to Everton and it was close and far at the same point.

Well tomorrow the round continues with two more matches. Lets see if i can recover.

The only sad part for me its i think im out for the fight of shirts.

About Chelsea, they keep making movements without reason.

"there is no good wind for those who have no port"

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 02, 2023, 04:23:34 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on April 02, 2023, 02:52:18 PM

I have always been of the opinion that Graham Potter wasn't in my opinion worthy to coach Chelsea and the club was way too big for him, just like Pochettino managing a team like PSG, however, I still don't think by any means that Graham Potter is a terrible coach, he only just chose to manage the wrong club or maybe even the right the club but at the wrong time.

He wasn’t worthy of the job but he was in an awkward position. Boehly was just buying players like on FIFA. Tyere has been no real master plan, It’s just been spend an obscene amount of money on very average players. Kimd of like throwing loads of horse crap up a wall and hoping some of it sticks. So far their big spending spree looks like a big waste of a lot of money.

Don't blame the owner for spending the way he did; blame the coach for bringing in players he planned to leave on the bench; not a single one of them is a starter or getting a run of games; mudrik, Madueke, Fofana, and Bashilale have spent more time on the bench than they have on the field since they arrived. If they weren't part of his plan, why did he go through so much trouble to get them in the first place? These players are world-class, and if Liverpool fans are willing to give misfiring Darwin two seasons to adjust to the league, then these players who arrived two months ago may also require some time to adjust. The entire players appears unmotivated, and I'm hoping that the new guy can instill some confidence in the team.

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Chelsea are oke of the worst teams for sacking managers quickly, Potter never really stood a chance did he. The Chelsea job is a poisoned chalice, Potter is better off not managing them. His career won’t be too badly dakaged because everybody gets sacked at Chelsea.

Hiring Potter was a huge mistake in the first place, and whoever recommended him should be fired as well. Potter is clearly on the same level as Lampard and Gerrad, he left Brighton, and the team is doing much better than when he was there. Give him two seasons and nothing would go right; it was the best decision for the club and the players.

Cutting losses for a better option was the best decision, Chelsea is never a mid-table team, we only needed 4 points to move to 8th place since December and we couldn't do it.

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Quote from: Ulven on April 03, 2023, 02:49:10 PM

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I agree @LFC_Bitcoin Hendo is past his years but he/Milner are giving way more on the pitch then say, Fabinho, who seems to be giving up running. Even Gakpo was doing more midfield work than Fab when we were chasing back. Also, I still think we're suffering from last season having no break and wringing our players dry. That's not defending how bad they've been, just I think the club didn't act smart to replenish the team with fresh legs etc.

El Shitico is the most accurate assessment of tomorrow's game. Problem is, no more Potter and Rodgers and Conte to help people forget how bad Liverpool is.

It is true that Liverpool in its current form is not satisfying its fans and supporters. I believe that Liverpool needs new players after all the disruptions it has suffered this season, especially in midfield and a striker. Therefore, we will need to see that this summer.

Tomorrow we will face the Blues away, and I don't think I will bet on this match. We will see if Liverpool can achieve a victory against Chelsea, which itself has not achieved the desired results this season.

At the moment, we have a match between Tottenham and Everton, and there are only two minutes left in the first half, and the result does not serve either club. I hope that Tottenham can score in the second half and achieve the expected result of 2-0.

I think Liverpool can beat Chelsea especially after Chelsea management firing Potter at a very delicate part of this season.The first to benefit from such move it will surely be Liverpool which is going to win that game.I doubt that firing Potter was the right move to make at such time,right before a very important all in encounter which they have against Real Madrid in Champions and which is the only choice for Chelsea to compete in Europe next season too,but that is highly unlikely for them to qualify further.

On the game of tonight,Everton strange enough is pressuring a lot and Tottenham which has a golden opportunity to solidify their run to be in the top 4 are missing out,I hope this changes in the second half.

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Quote from: buwaytress on April 03, 2023, 08:34:47 AM

I agree @LFC_Bitcoin Hendo is past his years but he/Milner are giving way more on the pitch then say, Fabinho, who seems to be giving up running. Even Gakpo was doing more midfield work than Fab when we were chasing back. Also, I still think we're suffering from last season having no break and wringing our players dry. That's not defending how bad they've been, just I think the club didn't act smart to replenish the team with fresh legs etc.

El Shitico is the most accurate assessment of tomorrow's game. Problem is, no more Potter and Rodgers and Conte to help people forget how bad Liverpool is.

It is true that Liverpool in its current form is not satisfying its fans and supporters. I believe that Liverpool needs new players after all the disruptions it has suffered this season, especially in midfield and a striker. Therefore, we will need to see that this summer.

Tomorrow we will face the Blues away, and I don't think I will bet on this match. We will see if Liverpool can achieve a victory against Chelsea, which itself has not achieved the desired results this season.

At the moment, we have a match between Tottenham and Everton, and there are only two minutes left in the first half, and the result does not serve either club. I hope that Tottenham can score in the second half and achieve the expected result of 2-0.

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Quote from: Harkorede on April 01, 2023, 07:59:13 AM

I've always knew you're just a blatant spammer, that supports Liverpool.

I do hope you're enjoying the game man, there's nothing more suiting than knowing, I'm going to get a win over you in the question about the match, more so with Liverpool on the losing end after a supposedly great goal to take the lead Tongue

Haha fairplay Harko, I think even objectively, I notice I probably talk Liverpool a bit too much on forum, even when it's not football or England, I have to find a way to bring them into the conversation. Believe me, I have backspaced and edited posts more over the years heh heh

So with Rodgers and Potter out, this season has made a new record: most managers fired in a single season. Klopp even said he knows everyone is asking why he's still here, "last man standing" he admits.

I agree @LFC_Bitcoin Hendo is past his years but he/Milner are giving way more on the pitch then say, Fabinho, who seems to be giving up running. Even Gakpo was doing more midfield work than Fab when we were chasing back. Also, I still think we're suffering from last season having no break and wringing our players dry. That's not defending how bad they've been, just I think the club didn't act smart to replenish the team with fresh legs etc.

El Shitico is the most accurate assessment of tomorrow's game. Problem is, no more Potter and Rodgers and Conte to help people forget how bad Liverpool is.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 02, 2023, 07:44:18 AM

Yeah we are a joke, mate. Has a club ever fallen off the cliff as badly as we have, we have gone from arguably the best team in world football in 2020 to a mid table Premier League club in 2023.

Two and a half years, has that level of decline ever happened before?

In the future we are going to be used as the perfect example what you don't do when you reach the top. You are supposed to recruit top players whilst you’re on top because once you start to regress it’s so much harder to get back to the top.

Would Henderson get into any other top 6 team, let alone captain them? Klopp has been too loyal to old, declining players. The midfield needs major surgery in the summer, if we don’t Klopp will be out of a job by Christmas.

We have picked up 12 points out of a possible 42 away from home this season which is less than Southampton and Leicester City.

Eight away defeats in the Premier League is our most since 2014-15 when Brendan Rodgers’ reign fell off the rails.

We are on course for our worst ever PL season.

Ironically it’s Chelsea away next……

I feel that Klopp doesn't really have a choice. We're being outspent by half the teams in the league - I'm sure he doesn't want to play Milner and Hendo in the middle but what can he do?
When we had a crisis in midfield the best they could do was Arthur who won't play a single minute even though we had 5 midfielders injured.

If we want to stay at the top, we need to act like the teams that aim for the top - meaning that we need 2 or 3 successive transfer windows with 150 mil+ net spent. We need 2 midfielders and a CB in the summer for sure - and that costs up to 200 million euros. Will we get them? My guess is we won't, unless we sell a few players as well.

Who can we sell? Well, nobody this season. So buckle up, it's gonna be a shitty summer yet again.

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