Topic: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 168. (Read 140643 times)

WTF i cant believe that stats man, how can be that bad for Liverpool.

But in the other hand i understand you in your idea of pick Salah for the next week, its because you know this have to stop sometime and you want to catch that with perfect timing, but its really difficult to make.

That's pretty hilarious, but it is also very a horrible stats to be honest speaking, but I'm still amazed as to why Jurgen Klopp have made any significant tactical difference, I believe he needs to implement a new style or approach of play, there is a shit load of creativity lacking within the team so, the least I was expecting from a manager of his standards is to do a lot of heavy rotation and approach, you can't keep doing things the same way with the expectation of a different result.

As for my FPL if I'm able to save up my transfers ahead of their double game week, then I sure would bring a number of their outfield players in, 4 points from each of them if they fail to score and booked will be than 2 potential from other alternatives, every single points now counts significantly for me.

No need to apologise for the meme share Trofo. We deserve it. Heh heh.

Leeds got my money tonight... no more team huddles so maybe they remember how to win? Not even 7/1, give me a break...


Hear, hear. From the days of Wenger, I've always felt that players don't take the blame enough. Or at least, personalities in the dressing room. It's your rice bowl, you play well, no matter what, you be a professional.

I know it's a simplistic view but it's valid: who's a better Klopp replacement now? Will he inherit the same inability to move in transfer?

Klopp worked well as part of the triumvirate in recruitment -- owner, front office, coaching -- when Edwards left, it wasn't so bad, Ward was a good understudy. Then FSG decided they'd had enough and "tested the waters". TF. Ward promptly announced his departure and then Graham (the brains behind out stats approach). But that's okay, you still got Graham and Klopp right? Wrong. Graham's busy looking for buyers or new owners so it's Klopp all alone now in recruitment.

He can't coach as well as he did, the team has less of his presence, his focus on mentality, etc. He's busy trying to buy players without the input of the brains he used to so he can only do what coaches traditionally do: look for potential with snatches of evidence (that's Cody Gakpo's WC exploits, in a nutshell).

Damn, this is horrible. We haven't scored in the last 3 league games and have conceded 6 in that same period.

We have Everton and Newcastle before hosting Real Madrid, hopefully by that time we get Jota and Diaz back and in form. Other than CL, there's basically nothing to play for this season.

Good strikers, weak midfielders have been problems for Liverpool and Chelsea for a while now. When a club doesn't score many goals, the attackers aren't getting enough support from the midfield, and that's exactly what's happening with Liverpool and Chelsea. The midfield trio of Kante, Kovasic, and Enzo might drastically alter our situation.

I still don't understand how Tuchel won the UCL with the mediocre team Lampard left him; I usually tell people that a good manager can get something out of everyone, regardless of how poor a team is.



Pep made it clear to the club that he would go if they ever ran into issues with the FFP. The club convinced him that everything was fine and that they were on good terms with the FFP, but it is now obvious that they lied to him. We'll see if he sticks to his word and resign.
Now we can see why they hire capable attorneys each season.

Our defense isn't that poor, is it? Chelsea is now ranked 3rd as the side with the most clean sheets this season.

I'm pretty sure I recall Man City being in similar trouble a few years ago, and they won it in court. I wonder now if that's going to be investigated, since I thought it was pretty damn obvious that City hasn't been following financial rules. I thought that was pretty obvious to most of us. I believe even Pep has been asked directly in a few interviews what he thinks about it over the years. So, there's definitely been a suspicion for years, and it's a little weird that they've already sort of gone through a similar process. Alright, it might be more escalated right now, but they've already challenged City before.

Will be interesting to see what the outcome is, but ultimately I don't think there will be much of a punishment. Remember though, that Derby got quite a severe punishment for their offenses, and were deducted points. That was on a much smaller scale than Cities too. 

Just seen an incredible meme that perfectly showcase just how bad Liverpool is after world cup. Sorry to all Liverpool supporters and I know there is quite a few here.


Source out of context Liverpool twitter account.

Can't belive I am still considering bringing Nunez or/and Salah for my Fantasy team in gw25 when they have double games.

In tonight game I think or better I hope no surprises as I like many other bettors have bet on Manchester United to win.However I am worried that a truly big number of bettors are betting heavily on Manchester United,I am not saying anything or suspecting anything as you cannot do such things in the Premier League but history has shown that when all people bet only on the most predictable outcome usually ends in a draw or even a lost game,I mean this as I have seen this in other leagues.Also to make an analogy Manchester United when were playing a single game,if I am not mistaken it was a Wednesday against Crystal Palace away from home they could not go more than a draw when also at that time everyone was betting on them.However this is only a conspiracy theory  and Leeds is in big trouble so most likely United is going to win tonight.

Chelsea has no debt and also one of the best net spends in England; they signed players worth £341m but only paid £52.6m upfront for the entire deal, which is less than what other clubs spent. Chelsea did not break the rules; instead, they discovered and exploited a loophole in the FFP rules before it was closed. We did what anyone else would do in our situation. I understand that most of you have no idea what amortizing is.

What bookies is that.

While you all are busy discussing the fate of City, don't forget to make the pick for today's match between Utd and Leeds. I already made my decision. Not just decision I am trying my luck with it too.



It's good as long as I am winning and for the last few days my times are better LOL

I really don't understand what exactly all these charges are and it seems to be indirectly related to the leaks made in german papers a few years ago that led to their earlier fine and almost banned from UCL.

I cannot point fingers, my own club is guilty of all kinds of nonsense it made the club lose fans and those who stayed still feel sick today for what it did (let's say pigeon shit in our stands and in our food is how bad it got because money went everywhere except to the club).

For me, clubs are businesses so in a way owners can do whatever they want that's fine but they all want a room in the castle. So I agree FFP is about fairplay, owners don't live on their own in a castle, the castle has many royals and one cannot use the treasury for himself.

I guess this is why some clubs want their own castle with Super League.

All this is a muddy story and we can only observe without really understanding what is happening (because some have always spit on laws, all sorts of FFPs, etc. and have not experienced any problems). My guess is that this is an attempt to curb clubs that have inflated spending to unrealistic levels that will never pay off as a normal business, without infusions from sheiks or other moneybags. What Chelsea is doing deserves a separate discussion, but probably "questions" will be voiced to them also soon.

The club cannot file an appeal to the court of arbitration for sports as they did the previous time they were poised to be expelled from UEFA competitions, according to the EPL regulations.


Manchester City has been informed that they cannot appeal, and instead must wait until the charges are confirmed and accept the punishment that is handed down to them. This charge relates to the English Premier League; it is a domestic violation, and every decision and penalty will take place within the league. I'm hoping it's not a cash fine since that would be pointless because they already have enough cash to cover it and move on. Consider taking this Mf to the championship or 15 points deduction.

UEFA will continue to conduct its own investigation, and if they are found guilty, they may be barred from participating in UEFA competitions. They are not going to pay their way out of this one.


We completed our suspension three years ago, and we already balance the books. We are the only club in Europe without a debt. How could you possibly be at 10th and still be loud?

Have investigations been concluded already, thought these financial investigations are still ongoing, especially that Man city hasn't been put on its defense yet

Pep to Chelsea too early mate lol and Pep's ego will never allow it!!

As for Manchester city's punishment, I hear there is an invisible hand that is really trying to make sure Man City doesn't win by possibly getting them expelled and providing a safe passage for Arsenal to take this one...am hoping they only get a hefty fine to survive this.

Btw with how things are unfolding, expect the odds on the outright winner to drop for Arsenal to win it because City is not going to be let off the hook!

I'd rather lose every single one of those players than Klopp. That's including Salah, who has been our best player for a number of years. I'd be sad to see some of them go, but for me personally I don't want Klopp to leave. Klopp has a lifetime contract for me.

Benitez was a decent manager, and did some good. However, there's just no comparison. Klopp has stood up for the values of the team, would never accept a job against a direct rival, and that's not even a dig at Benitez. Klopp has just done so much, delivered our first Premier League title in over 20 years, and delivered a whole lot more than that. Plus, I don't believe managers are ever done. They just usually fit the blame. It's usually the owners that have stopped investing. Sir Alex would've excelled at Man Utd for as long as he wanted. Wenger lost the support of the board, but ultimately was their best manager. Klopp will be held in the same regard, and there's no way I'd support sacking him.

If he's lost the changing rooms like everyone is claiming. It's about time we replace that changing room then.

To be fair, it was always going to be a hard call to pick Everton against a high-performing Arsenal. They did have a good game, second half anyway, but had they converted a goal first, Everton might have settled for a draw. Dyche's challenge will now be to ask his team to maintain or rotate. No way they play the same intensity from now on with not-so-full-of-stamina players in the team. Unless they want to burn out like Leeds or... cough, cough, Liverpool.

Merseyside up next though!


Whoa. That's actually pretty damned big news, not sure how I didn't hear about it earlier. Cue Pep rants. Like you said, though, last time they got in trouble, they paid a nice "wrist slap" fine, though, so I'm not holding my breath.

Remember, they were actually found guilty and banned. An appeal was successful, so who knows what other extras that appeal entailed? What was it that Mourinho said about the whole thing? You're either innocent or guilty, and City were guilty af.

Chelski next to get FPP threats? Surely they can put together an even bigger appeal package =)

I think it will take another 4 years of investigation, and then another 4 years of courts and in the end the City will be punished by a few pence 
But as I wrote earlier, the Premier League is in any case moving towards a financial crisis from which there is either access to the Super League (for the few who survive) or the coming to the fact that cheating clubs should be punished not just harshly, but severely.

Hell yeah I would love to see this happen. I mean dont kick them out of EPL as it will makes the league totally boring without City in it, 10-15 points reduction sounds just fair and it gives Arsenal a good chance to bag this season's trophy if it really happens.  and of course fair chance for United to snag some points from behind and who knows might win it 


I got 4 points so far either and yeah this round is pretty bad as there are lots of unexpected outcome from this round

Yes but, i dont think they are gonna really punish them, and anyways if they do, only 15 points dont its too much, also you have to wait so longo to see if this finally comes, because after sometime they will appeal to the TAS and that can make the decission delay for years.

What a disaster, I think, in the event that conclusive evidence is proven against City and dropping 15 points from the club’s record for this season will make it not participate in one of the European championships next season. This, of course, will open the way for Arsenal to win the title.
This round was bad for me and the majority in the pool didn't score much.