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Quote from: arallmuus on January 18, 2023, 05:00:07 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on January 18, 2023, 04:44:35 PM

By the way, if United now holds the winning score with Crystal Palace, then they (albeit formally) will come out on a clean second place and will be higher than City. Who would have believed this at the start of the season?

I was kinda happy that we was holding the 0-1 score until the 90th minute then somehow Crystal Palace scored a goal, what a total pain though. Currently same point with City but tomorrow City will be playing their 19th games against Tottenham which I believe would be another 3 points for City considering that they lost last week

I had a strong feeling that United would not hold the winning score when I wrote this post (it can't be that good), but I didn't bet against the club I support.
You do not believe that City will lose points again, but on the other hand, Tottenham will also be in an extremely difficult situation if they lose points. I don’t know what to predict here, but as always I will hope that City will not win.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 18, 2023, 02:02:32 PM

I'm wondering whether there's a chance that the league decides to increase the squad sizes to accommodate for these poor results, and performances. It's weird too, most of the better teams struggle with injuries where as the rest of the middle table, and below teams never really seem to struggle to the same degree.

Mid-table teams do occasionally struggle, but because all they do is move up and down the mid table without competing for any trophies, it can be difficult to notice. Right now, Leicester and Everton are struggling, but no one is paying attention to them because everyone is focused on Liverpool and Chelsea's recent performances.

In any case, when the big boys struggle, it gives the smaller teams a chance to compete for the league, as it did in 2015 when Leicester won the league. Right now, Arsenal is at the top of the league not because they are great, but rather because other teams are having difficulties due to injuries and other factors. Having more teams than what we currently have will make the league look unprofessional and boring.

But we still have to give Arteta some credit tho. He did assemble a decent squad over three seasons with a meager budget. It's not great but it is enough to beat teams that are supposed to be great. And they're on their way to win the league.

And I kinda like how things are going about. If everything is what they're supposed to be we'd prolly see either City or Liverpool leading by 3 points with the rest far behind... Aka another boring season. This one is def been one for the lulz. Hoping to see Fulham, Brighton and Brentford finish higher. Cheesy

Anyway, what do you guys think of Newcastle to score a goal first vs Crystal Palace at 1.68 as a parlay piece... Should I just go Newcastle ML at 1.90?

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 18, 2023, 04:44:35 PM

Quote from: buwaytress on January 18, 2023, 04:31:17 PM

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United's hitting a rich vein of form, how I wish they'd kept Ronaldo and Rangnick or Ole longer haha...

Do you think it would help Liverpool? Wink

By the way, if United now holds the winning score with Crystal Palace, then they (albeit formally) will come out on a clean second place and will be higher than City. Who would have believed this at the start of the season?
If this victory takes place, then I think that at least 50% is the merit of De Gea, today he saves.

Oh, no of course not. But it always helps my mood to see United in pain and misery.

De Gea has actually held United up for a very long time, even accounting for when his form was poor. I actually wish he'd just kept the clean sheet though, I had bets riding both on and against United. Draws always take me out of everything.

Quote from: Igebotz on January 18, 2023, 04:56:32 PM

I really miss Ole and Ronaldo, and I wish they had never picked this bald coach. pain Undecided

Right? Liverpool can make me either really happy or really down, but United's pain is a special kind of joy I miss.

Quote from: Harkorede on January 18, 2023, 07:53:11 PM

Man United probably didn't do well enough to earned the win imo, so the result seems rather very fair to me, I had Man United to win 2-1, but at least I would have gotten 1.5 points if they kept the lead.

Didn't watch but Palace had 5 shots on goal to United's 3... seems like United forgot that they win games with less possession!

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Let’s have them put back in their box where they belong Wink

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Was a great title challenge by Man Utd (for the whole 4 days they were in it Cheesy

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I think Arsenal are going to roll over them on the weekend, I hope so any way. There was too much chest thumping from Man Utd fans & media guys. Let’s have them put back in their box where they belong Wink

Hopefully LFC can find some desire on Saturday, going to be tough against Chelsea.

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 18, 2023, 04:56:32 PM

Quote from: buwaytress on January 18, 2023, 04:31:17 PM

United's hitting a rich vein of form, how I wish they'd kept Ronaldo and Rangnick or Ole longer haha...

Imagine Arsenal and Manchester United, two Europa League merchants, competing for the EPL title. Nah, that doesn't make sense. These teams aren't impressing me in the slightest; instead, they're just taking advantage of Chelsea, LiVARpool, and City's inconsistency to have a bragging right, haha. I really miss Ole and Ronaldo, and I wish they had never picked this bald coach. pain Undecided

And what impresses me the most about both coaches is that they doing all their stunning performance with players you'd have considered less significant individually except a couple of them, while the power houses that have spent hundred of millions money on transfers to increase their squad depth are still the ones struggling.

Man United probably didn't do well enough to earned the win imo, so the result seems rather very fair to me, I had Man United to win 2-1, but at least I would have gotten 1.5 points if they kept the lead.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 18, 2023, 04:44:35 PM

By the way, if United now holds the winning score with Crystal Palace, then they (albeit formally) will come out on a clean second place and will be higher than City. Who would have believed this at the start of the season?

I was kinda happy that we was holding the 0-1 score until the 90th minute then somehow Crystal Palace scored a goal, what a total pain though. Currently same point with City but tomorrow City will be playing their 19th games against Tottenham which I believe would be another 3 points for City considering that they lost last week

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Quote from: buwaytress on January 18, 2023, 04:31:17 PM

United's hitting a rich vein of form, how I wish they'd kept Ronaldo and Rangnick or Ole longer haha...

Imagine Arsenal and Manchester United, two Europa League merchants, competing for the EPL title. Nah, that doesn't make sense. These teams aren't impressing me in the slightest; instead, they're just taking advantage of Chelsea, LiVARpool, and City's inconsistency to have a bragging right, haha. I really miss Ole and Ronaldo, and I wish they had never picked this bald coach. pain Undecided

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Quote from: buwaytress on January 18, 2023, 04:31:17 PM

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United's hitting a rich vein of form, how I wish they'd kept Ronaldo and Rangnick or Ole longer haha...

Do you think it would help Liverpool? Wink

By the way, if United now holds the winning score with Crystal Palace, then they (albeit formally) will come out on a clean second place and will be higher than City. Who would have believed this at the start of the season?
If this victory takes place, then I think that at least 50% is the merit of De Gea, today he saves.

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 18, 2023, 03:49:26 PM

Right now, Leicester and Everton are struggling, but no one is paying attention to them because everyone is focused on Liverpool and Chelsea's recent performances.

In any case, when the big boys struggle, it gives the smaller teams a chance to compete for the league, as it did in 2015 when Leicester won the league. Right now, Arsenal is at the top of the league not because they are great, but rather because other teams are having difficulties due to injuries and other factors. Having more teams than what we currently have will make the league look unprofessional and boring.

Yeah, credit due to Arsenal (and Leicester) for what they're doing and where they are now but I definitely agree that the similarities of this season and Foxes's one is that the other contenders are all struggling for consistency.

Everton and Leicester, even Villa, West Ham, Saints, Wolves, I'd say have all lost their way in varying degrees, but because they're never expected to challenge, their woes going under the radar.

United's hitting a rich vein of form, how I wish they'd kept Ronaldo and Rangnick or Ole longer haha...

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Quote from: Welsh on January 18, 2023, 02:02:32 PM

I'm wondering whether there's a chance that the league decides to increase the squad sizes to accommodate for these poor results, and performances. It's weird too, most of the better teams struggle with injuries where as the rest of the middle table, and below teams never really seem to struggle to the same degree.

Mid-table teams do occasionally struggle, but because all they do is move up and down the mid table without competing for any trophies, it can be difficult to notice. Right now, Leicester and Everton are struggling, but no one is paying attention to them because everyone is focused on Liverpool and Chelsea's recent performances.

In any case, when the big boys struggle, it gives the smaller teams a chance to compete for the league, as it did in 2015 when Leicester won the league. Right now, Arsenal is at the top of the league not because they are great, but rather because other teams are having difficulties due to injuries and other factors. Having more teams than what we currently have will make the league look unprofessional and boring.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 18, 2023, 02:02:32 PM

Anyone got on any ideas on why teams are struggling so bad for injuries right now? Liverpool, and Chelsea have particularly been struggling, and I'm wondering why. It's not like the amount of games has increased except for the world cup. However, most of our players were injured before the world cup. We had a similar problem one year during the pandemic.

I'm wondering whether there's a chance that the league decides to increase the squad sizes to accommodate for these poor results, and performances. It's weird too, most of the better teams struggle with injuries where as the rest of the middle table, and below teams never really seem to struggle to the same degree.

I think it is because Liverpool was forced to play with the first eleven even in FA cup when not long ago but just yesterday they won in a beautiful game against Wolves,this was the second game as it ended draw the first one and it was replayed,so Liverpool had 2 extra games just in this week.It is exactly these games that added increased risk of happening to injuries as Liverpool is not doing well in the Premier League so they focus even more in these side events in order to grab some trophies.Now just this upcoming weekend there is again Premier League action and it is the teams who play the most games like Liverpool that get more injuries while for Chelsea I think it is just bad luck or bad coincidence that they have lots of injuries too.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 18, 2023, 02:02:32 PM

Anyone got on any ideas on why teams are struggling so bad for injuries right now? Liverpool, and Chelsea have particularly been struggling, and I'm wondering why. It's not like the amount of games has increased except for the world cup. However, most of our players were injured before the world cup. We had a similar problem one year during the pandemic.

I'm wondering whether there's a chance that the league decides to increase the squad sizes to accommodate for these poor results, and performances. It's weird too, most of the better teams struggle with injuries where as the rest of the middle table, and below teams never really seem to struggle to the same degree.

Liverpool basically didn't have a break. They played the maximum possible amount of games (reached the finals in all competitions) so their season lasted really long, and the new one started earlier than usual due to the World Cup.
That shouldn't be an excuse by any means - successful teams must strive to repeatedly be able to reach the end of the season fighting for trophies. Still - the shorter break due to the WC probably cost Liverpool team more than it would have cost a team playing a different type of football.

Liverpool team simply looks physically drained - and injuries aren't helping because the tired players cannot even get the rest they need.

Top teams struggle more because most of their players also play European and cup games in midweek and also travel to play for their national teams. The difference per player can be as much as 20 games per season.

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Anyone got on any ideas on why teams are struggling so bad for injuries right now? Liverpool, and Chelsea have particularly been struggling, and I'm wondering why. It's not like the amount of games has increased except for the world cup. However, most of our players were injured before the world cup. We had a similar problem one year during the pandemic.

I'm wondering whether there's a chance that the league decides to increase the squad sizes to accommodate for these poor results, and performances. It's weird too, most of the better teams struggle with injuries where as the rest of the middle table, and below teams never really seem to struggle to the same degree.

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Yeah, I got it, everyone thinks he'll be suited at Arsenal because they're playing a lot better than everyone else at the moment, well form is temporary but class is permanent, I haven't really watched him play but he's currently the fastest player in the league looking at his previous speed stats and from what I've seen he likes to be on the move, and I think he'd do well in a team like Chelsea who play counter attacking football unlike Arsenal ( possessive football)

With the quality we have on the wings now, he will easily walk into our IX if he performs well. Pulisic and Ziyech's future is uncertain after this season; they are part of our problems.

Harkorede posted my minds pretty much. I also think that he would fit for Arsenal more, but you have good point about Chelsea style of play. Shakhtar in Champions/Europa league also played counter attacking football, rather than possesive football. But I just don't think that Mudryk's position was most problematic in Chelsea that had to spend 100 millions for him.
I don't agree with argument that ''player who wants to ball will ball no matter where he finds himself''. If it would be true, there wouldn't be so many bad transfers when player i new club fail to show what he used to show in his previous club. For example, not every player can perform well in clubs managed by Simeone or Mourinho. Or opposite, sometimes manager simply don't have enough competence to use strong sides of player, like when he let him to play not in his prime position.

Yeah, there are just some players that no matter how good they potential are just wouldn't fit in into certain clubs (more regards to the system and style of play). The biggest problem is Chelsea having right now is that apart from being injury plagued, the lack a lot of identity and chemistry, you have six players playing a specific wing and with a contrast different ideology or style of play, which is what I'm expecting of Graham Potter and I'm willing to give him enough time to have his players fully back and then I can judge if he in my opinion if or not he's coach worthy of coach a club like Chelsea.

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 16, 2023, 04:36:59 PM

Yeah, I got it, everyone thinks he'll be suited at Arsenal because they're playing a lot better than everyone else at the moment, well form is temporary but class is permanent, I haven't really watched him play but he's currently the fastest player in the league looking at his previous speed stats and from what I've seen he likes to be on the move, and I think he'd do well in a team like Chelsea who play counter attacking football unlike Arsenal ( possessive football)

With the quality we have on the wings now, he will easily walk into our IX if he performs well. Pulisic and Ziyech's future is uncertain after this season; they are part of our problems.

Harkorede posted my minds pretty much. I also think that he would fit for Arsenal more, but you have good point about Chelsea style of play. Shakhtar in Champions/Europa league also played counter attacking football, rather than possesive football. But I just don't think that Mudryk's position was most problematic in Chelsea that had to spend 100 millions for him.
I don't agree with argument that ''player who wants to ball will ball no matter where he finds himself''. If it would be true, there wouldn't be so many bad transfers when player i new club fail to show what he used to show in his previous club. For example, not every player can perform well in clubs managed by Simeone or Mourinho. Or opposite, sometimes manager simply don't have enough competence to use strong sides of player, like when he let him to play not in his prime position.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on January 15, 2023, 06:18:04 PM

What do you guys think about Mudryk's transfer to Chelsea? I'm afraid that it can become story of another wasted talent. It feels that Chelsea desperately wanted to buy him to net let Arsenal to sign him. I hope that I'm wrong, but I really wanted to see him in Arsenal and I think that going to gunners would be much better deal for both club and player.

A good player performs everywhere, I'm tired of hearing about "wasted talent," a player who wants to ball will ball no matter where he finds himself, if Mudryk is a good player, he will prove it on the pitch, I haven't seen him play, but from the few clips I've seen, I believe he has a lot of potential to do well. He has pace, which is something I look for in a player.

It's not Chelsea's fault that Arsenal couldn't pay €5m more for him. Who knows, going to Chelsea might be the best option

I think he's probably speaking from a perspective of where he thinks Mudryk would likely fit into the game plans easily, I don't know about Mudryk as at 7-8 days ago, so I really can't speak much of his abilities, but from have learnt in the last few days, I think he'll be better suited to Arsenal imo too, because Arsenal currently lacks a squad depth and he might get more playing time there, however he will seemingly struggle to keep his place once Chelsea luxury of players playing the same role as he does gets back from their injury spell.

Yeah, I got it, everyone thinks he'll be suited at Arsenal because they're playing a lot better than everyone else at the moment, well form is temporary but class is permanent, I haven't really watched him play but he's currently the fastest player in the league looking at his previous speed stats and from what I've seen he likes to be on the move, and I think he'd do well in a team like Chelsea who play counter attacking football unlike Arsenal ( possessive football)

With the quality we have on the wings now, he will easily walk into our IX if he performs well. Pulisic and Ziyech's future is uncertain after this season; they are part of our problems.

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Quote from: jayce on January 16, 2023, 12:49:39 PM

Another round, another bad result on Superbru. The table has been turned which I slip to 5th and have 11 points gap with the 1st position Embarrassed

There are still halfway to go and Mitchr4 is currently having a good round but things could be different on the next round as you could be the one getting a good round of points. Well atleast you are still way ahead of the majority of the pool though so its all good for now

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 16, 2023, 03:37:00 PM

Quote from: LTU_btc on January 15, 2023, 06:18:04 PM

What do you guys think about Mudryk's transfer to Chelsea? I'm afraid that it can become story of another wasted talent. It feels that Chelsea desperately wanted to buy him to net let Arsenal to sign him. I hope that I'm wrong, but I really wanted to see him in Arsenal and I think that going to gunners would be much better deal for both club and player.

A good player performs everywhere, I'm tired of hearing about "wasted talent," a player who wants to ball will ball no matter where he finds himself, if Mudryk is a good player, he will prove it on the pitch, I haven't seen him play, but from the few clips I've seen, I believe he has a lot of potential to do well. He has pace, which is something I look for in a player.

It's not Chelsea's fault that Arsenal couldn't pay €5m more for him. Who knows, going to Chelsea might be the best option

I think he's probably speaking from a perspective of where he thinks Mudryk would likely fit into the game plans easily, I don't know about Mudryk as at 7-8 days ago, so I really can't speak much of his abilities, but from have learnt in the last few days, I think he'll be better suited to Arsenal imo too, because Arsenal currently lacks a squad depth and he might get more playing time there, however he will seemingly struggle to keep his place once Chelsea luxury of players playing the same role as he does gets back from their injury spell.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on January 15, 2023, 06:18:04 PM

What do you guys think about Mudryk's transfer to Chelsea? I'm afraid that it can become story of another wasted talent. It feels that Chelsea desperately wanted to buy him to net let Arsenal to sign him. I hope that I'm wrong, but I really wanted to see him in Arsenal and I think that going to gunners would be much better deal for both club and player.

A good player performs everywhere, I'm tired of hearing about "wasted talent," a player who wants to ball will ball no matter where he finds himself, if Mudryk is a good player, he will prove it on the pitch, I haven't seen him play, but from the few clips I've seen, I believe he has a lot of potential to do well. He has pace, which is something I look for in a player.

It's not Chelsea's fault that Arsenal couldn't pay €5m more for him. Who knows, going to Chelsea might be the best option.

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Quote from: jayce on January 16, 2023, 12:49:39 PM

Another round, another bad result on Superbru. The table has been turned which I slip to 5th and have 11 points gap with the 1st position Embarrassed

Apart from this, finally I can see the yellow cap winner won the entire games of previous round, with 4 exact and 5 close scores! There are two remaining games indeed but those games are not originally played on round 20. Congrats Hhampuz!

Now is that critical time in which if you want to be the winner or be at least in the top 10 you should not have bad results.I was having bad rounds myself but compared to last time around where I was and where I am now I think I see positive vibes only,I think if I manage to keep up with this kind of results like being an average or somewhat better than most of people in the pool,having this consistency will make me hopefully to be in the top 22 people in the end of tournament.Last time around I was really mad at myself as I came up 12 while only 2 mere points divided me from that 10th place and the final prize,I hope this year to win a prize.

Hhampuz was another planet Saturday,he should be still partying and drunk now Grin

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I was too optimistic by playing against odds on some matches in the last two rounds, while this method worked in my early rounds. Yeah consistency is the key, and seems it's better to play safe in the remaining rounds lol. Good luck mate!

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