Topic: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 188. (Read 145405 times)

This does not work even in normal markets: no one will allow you to dump or profit from a monopoly position in a normal market. All players that harm the market itself are removed/penalized so that the market remains a market. Clubs that spend more than they earn harm not only themselves (no one cares about the owners and how they want to burn their money) but all other clubs - this is the main problem that needs to be solved.


Friend, do you think you're on a forum for five-year-olds and no one but you knows what amortization is?  
You probably don't understand that nobody cares about accounting tricks. Loopholes tricks and other nonsense, firstly, do not change the essence of things, and secondly, they can be punished in terms of the criminal codes of most countries, even if "formally" everything was legal. There are such concepts as "malicious actions", abuse of the right", etc. If the court qualifies even a legal (at the time of commission) action as a crime, then it will be a crime.

Just so you know, Manchester united are currently trailing by a goal thanks to Wilfried Gnonto's first minute strike but am optimistic to see a united comeback looking at how well the are playing & applying pressure on Leeds.
Odds are currently priced over 2.5 for a Manchester win but I will be putting in my  wager after 10minutes of the start of the second half maybe catch the game at 3 odds.

These second half of the premier league games are starting to be more difficult to predict and standings of the SB pool hasn't changed much either  

This is some depressing reading regarding the state of LFC atm. At least Man Utd are losing tonight, mind you, the last laugh might be on us if they get Qatari owners whilst we’re stuck with broke ass FSG. I wish they’d sell up & get lost tbh.

Nearly HT and 1-0 Leeds, I still think United will come back & win this one though.

It's not going to stop. Salah isn't the answer to everything. I know we'd like to think that, but he's been one of the players that have really slumped in this difficult period. He feeds of the team, when the team isn't performing he can struggle. Alright, he has gone us out of situations because of his goal scoring ability, but that's when we're doing okay, but not on our best day. He isn't going to carry this team, and no player would be able too.

There needs to be a serious overhaul, and I wouldn't be opposed to losing some of our long serving players. In their glory days they were great, and I'll always remember those days. I'm not going to be annoyed at them for declining that usually does come with time. However, I'm not liking some of the attitude I've witnessed in recent games. Walking back, and not even looking bothered.

 

More like Guardiola to retire out of embarassment and will return to Catalonia for a long sabbatical.  He trusted the Man City brass that they didn't have any shenanigans of this sort going on behind the club.  He could've been aware that something was going on but nothing seriously to be concerned over.  If it's all true, damn...  That's gonna turn everything they worked for upside down.  Hate to see it but what happens next should happen.

Now no elite manager is gonna want to touch City now after Guardiola's contract runs out.  Not to mention top players.

Edit:  Oh there's a match rn...  Leeds a goal up vs United.  I have United 3 - 0 in our pool.  :/

I don't know if I brought bad luck with my analogy that when a single game in the Premier League is being played and all bets are toward the favorite,in this case Manchester United usually it ends up in a draw or a lost game but the fact is that Manchester United did not start in the right way and conceded a goal early in the game.Leeds is leading now 0-1 which is something that of course made this game much more beautiful to watch as Manchester will definitely try to recover and win the game and they have the possibilities to do so.I only hope is not one of those bad luck nights.

first match is with us, Merseyside derby, and Salah is best scorer in those matches from all active players in both teams
but, Dyche made Everton better, and with Liverpool playing as with Wolves, everything can happen

looking at odds @1.5 on Liverpool is no value, will be interesting to see where it will be on Monday, Everton is currently @6

WTF i cant believe that stats man, how can be that bad for Liverpool.

But in the other hand i understand you in your idea of pick Salah for the next week, its because you know this have to stop sometime and you want to catch that with perfect timing, but its really difficult to make.

That's pretty hilarious, but it is also very a horrible stats to be honest speaking, but I'm still amazed as to why Jurgen Klopp have made any significant tactical difference, I believe he needs to implement a new style or approach of play, there is a shit load of creativity lacking within the team so, the least I was expecting from a manager of his standards is to do a lot of heavy rotation and approach, you can't keep doing things the same way with the expectation of a different result.

As for my FPL if I'm able to save up my transfers ahead of their double game week, then I sure would bring a number of their outfield players in, 4 points from each of them if they fail to score and booked will be than 2 potential from other alternatives, every single points now counts significantly for me.

No need to apologise for the meme share Trofo. We deserve it. Heh heh.

Leeds got my money tonight... no more team huddles so maybe they remember how to win? Not even 7/1, give me a break...


Hear, hear. From the days of Wenger, I've always felt that players don't take the blame enough. Or at least, personalities in the dressing room. It's your rice bowl, you play well, no matter what, you be a professional.

I know it's a simplistic view but it's valid: who's a better Klopp replacement now? Will he inherit the same inability to move in transfer?

Klopp worked well as part of the triumvirate in recruitment -- owner, front office, coaching -- when Edwards left, it wasn't so bad, Ward was a good understudy. Then FSG decided they'd had enough and "tested the waters". TF. Ward promptly announced his departure and then Graham (the brains behind out stats approach). But that's okay, you still got Graham and Klopp right? Wrong. Graham's busy looking for buyers or new owners so it's Klopp all alone now in recruitment.

He can't coach as well as he did, the team has less of his presence, his focus on mentality, etc. He's busy trying to buy players without the input of the brains he used to so he can only do what coaches traditionally do: look for potential with snatches of evidence (that's Cody Gakpo's WC exploits, in a nutshell).

Damn, this is horrible. We haven't scored in the last 3 league games and have conceded 6 in that same period.

We have Everton and Newcastle before hosting Real Madrid, hopefully by that time we get Jota and Diaz back and in form. Other than CL, there's basically nothing to play for this season.

Good strikers, weak midfielders have been problems for Liverpool and Chelsea for a while now. When a club doesn't score many goals, the attackers aren't getting enough support from the midfield, and that's exactly what's happening with Liverpool and Chelsea. The midfield trio of Kante, Kovasic, and Enzo might drastically alter our situation.

I still don't understand how Tuchel won the UCL with the mediocre team Lampard left him; I usually tell people that a good manager can get something out of everyone, regardless of how poor a team is.



Pep made it clear to the club that he would go if they ever ran into issues with the FFP. The club convinced him that everything was fine and that they were on good terms with the FFP, but it is now obvious that they lied to him. We'll see if he sticks to his word and resign.
Now we can see why they hire capable attorneys each season.

Our defense isn't that poor, is it? Chelsea is now ranked 3rd as the side with the most clean sheets this season.

I'm pretty sure I recall Man City being in similar trouble a few years ago, and they won it in court. I wonder now if that's going to be investigated, since I thought it was pretty damn obvious that City hasn't been following financial rules. I thought that was pretty obvious to most of us. I believe even Pep has been asked directly in a few interviews what he thinks about it over the years. So, there's definitely been a suspicion for years, and it's a little weird that they've already sort of gone through a similar process. Alright, it might be more escalated right now, but they've already challenged City before.

Will be interesting to see what the outcome is, but ultimately I don't think there will be much of a punishment. Remember though, that Derby got quite a severe punishment for their offenses, and were deducted points. That was on a much smaller scale than Cities too. 

Just seen an incredible meme that perfectly showcase just how bad Liverpool is after world cup. Sorry to all Liverpool supporters and I know there is quite a few here.


Source out of context Liverpool twitter account.

Can't belive I am still considering bringing Nunez or/and Salah for my Fantasy team in gw25 when they have double games.

In tonight game I think or better I hope no surprises as I like many other bettors have bet on Manchester United to win.However I am worried that a truly big number of bettors are betting heavily on Manchester United,I am not saying anything or suspecting anything as you cannot do such things in the Premier League but history has shown that when all people bet only on the most predictable outcome usually ends in a draw or even a lost game,I mean this as I have seen this in other leagues.Also to make an analogy Manchester United when were playing a single game,if I am not mistaken it was a Wednesday against Crystal Palace away from home they could not go more than a draw when also at that time everyone was betting on them.However this is only a conspiracy theory  and Leeds is in big trouble so most likely United is going to win tonight.

Chelsea has no debt and also one of the best net spends in England; they signed players worth £341m but only paid £52.6m upfront for the entire deal, which is less than what other clubs spent. Chelsea did not break the rules; instead, they discovered and exploited a loophole in the FFP rules before it was closed. We did what anyone else would do in our situation. I understand that most of you have no idea what amortizing is.

What bookies is that.

While you all are busy discussing the fate of City, don't forget to make the pick for today's match between Utd and Leeds. I already made my decision. Not just decision I am trying my luck with it too.



It's good as long as I am winning and for the last few days my times are better LOL

I really don't understand what exactly all these charges are and it seems to be indirectly related to the leaks made in german papers a few years ago that led to their earlier fine and almost banned from UCL.

I cannot point fingers, my own club is guilty of all kinds of nonsense it made the club lose fans and those who stayed still feel sick today for what it did (let's say pigeon shit in our stands and in our food is how bad it got because money went everywhere except to the club).

For me, clubs are businesses so in a way owners can do whatever they want that's fine but they all want a room in the castle. So I agree FFP is about fairplay, owners don't live on their own in a castle, the castle has many royals and one cannot use the treasury for himself.

I guess this is why some clubs want their own castle with Super League.

All this is a muddy story and we can only observe without really understanding what is happening (because some have always spit on laws, all sorts of FFPs, etc. and have not experienced any problems). My guess is that this is an attempt to curb clubs that have inflated spending to unrealistic levels that will never pay off as a normal business, without infusions from sheiks or other moneybags. What Chelsea is doing deserves a separate discussion, but probably "questions" will be voiced to them also soon.

The club cannot file an appeal to the court of arbitration for sports as they did the previous time they were poised to be expelled from UEFA competitions, according to the EPL regulations.


Manchester City has been informed that they cannot appeal, and instead must wait until the charges are confirmed and accept the punishment that is handed down to them. This charge relates to the English Premier League; it is a domestic violation, and every decision and penalty will take place within the league. I'm hoping it's not a cash fine since that would be pointless because they already have enough cash to cover it and move on. Consider taking this Mf to the championship or 15 points deduction.

UEFA will continue to conduct its own investigation, and if they are found guilty, they may be barred from participating in UEFA competitions. They are not going to pay their way out of this one.


We completed our suspension three years ago, and we already balance the books. We are the only club in Europe without a debt. How could you possibly be at 10th and still be loud?