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Have investigations been concluded already, thought these financial investigations are still ongoing, especially that Man city hasn't been put on its defense yet

Pep to Chelsea too early mate lol and Pep's ego will never allow it!!

As for Manchester city's punishment, I hear there is an invisible hand that is really trying to make sure Man City doesn't win by possibly getting them expelled and providing a safe passage for Arsenal to take this one...am hoping they only get a hefty fine to survive this.

Btw with how things are unfolding, expect the odds on the outright winner to drop for Arsenal to win it because City is not going to be let off the hook!

I'd rather lose every single one of those players than Klopp. That's including Salah, who has been our best player for a number of years. I'd be sad to see some of them go, but for me personally I don't want Klopp to leave. Klopp has a lifetime contract for me.

Benitez was a decent manager, and did some good. However, there's just no comparison. Klopp has stood up for the values of the team, would never accept a job against a direct rival, and that's not even a dig at Benitez. Klopp has just done so much, delivered our first Premier League title in over 20 years, and delivered a whole lot more than that. Plus, I don't believe managers are ever done. They just usually fit the blame. It's usually the owners that have stopped investing. Sir Alex would've excelled at Man Utd for as long as he wanted. Wenger lost the support of the board, but ultimately was their best manager. Klopp will be held in the same regard, and there's no way I'd support sacking him.

If he's lost the changing rooms like everyone is claiming. It's about time we replace that changing room then.

To be fair, it was always going to be a hard call to pick Everton against a high-performing Arsenal. They did have a good game, second half anyway, but had they converted a goal first, Everton might have settled for a draw. Dyche's challenge will now be to ask his team to maintain or rotate. No way they play the same intensity from now on with not-so-full-of-stamina players in the team. Unless they want to burn out like Leeds or... cough, cough, Liverpool.

Merseyside up next though!


Whoa. That's actually pretty damned big news, not sure how I didn't hear about it earlier. Cue Pep rants. Like you said, though, last time they got in trouble, they paid a nice "wrist slap" fine, though, so I'm not holding my breath.

Remember, they were actually found guilty and banned. An appeal was successful, so who knows what other extras that appeal entailed? What was it that Mourinho said about the whole thing? You're either innocent or guilty, and City were guilty af.

Chelski next to get FPP threats? Surely they can put together an even bigger appeal package =)

I think it will take another 4 years of investigation, and then another 4 years of courts and in the end the City will be punished by a few pence 
But as I wrote earlier, the Premier League is in any case moving towards a financial crisis from which there is either access to the Super League (for the few who survive) or the coming to the fact that cheating clubs should be punished not just harshly, but severely.

Hell yeah I would love to see this happen. I mean dont kick them out of EPL as it will makes the league totally boring without City in it, 10-15 points reduction sounds just fair and it gives Arsenal a good chance to bag this season's trophy if it really happens.  and of course fair chance for United to snag some points from behind and who knows might win it 


I got 4 points so far either and yeah this round is pretty bad as there are lots of unexpected outcome from this round

Yes but, i dont think they are gonna really punish them, and anyways if they do, only 15 points dont its too much, also you have to wait so longo to see if this finally comes, because after sometime they will appeal to the TAS and that can make the decission delay for years.

What a disaster, I think, in the event that conclusive evidence is proven against City and dropping 15 points from the club’s record for this season will make it not participate in one of the European championships next season. This, of course, will open the way for Arsenal to win the title.
This round was bad for me and the majority in the pool didn't score much.

Yeah, if you aren't a team capable of playing free flowing football, get a coach who can milk the max from your team.
I dislike Dyche, of course - his playstyle is extremely reactive. But he's more than a 'hoof it forward and jump for it' manager - and he's always portrayed as such.
I also feel he'll do well at Everton.


It was about time and I'm really glad that they are investigating it. It will probably end up with some insignificant fine and a player registration temporary ban, but this actually does look serious.
Chelsea should start paying attention

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Manchester City in the Mud! Following a four-year investigation, Premier Leaue charged this fraud team with numerous violations of financial rules.

If Man City is found guilty on 50% of the charges, they could face a 15-point deduction or even expulsion from the Premier League. The funniest thing is that even if they lose 15 points, they will still be ahead of Livarpool..

 Never seen anything like it. Pep to Chelsea?

Dyche is really a decent manager.  I prolly should've paid more attention before making these parlays as I honestly really didn't know he was coming to replace Lampard.  I just found out when the match started.  Lolol. 

Sean Dyche could just be the manager to bring back Everton to consistently finish midtable every season just as the genius Moyes did back in the day.

Anyway, another potentially good manager to look out for is Vincent Kompany who is doing well at Burnley rn.

This was one strange game week and unpredictable too, Chelsea started off by failing to beat fulham, Liverpool was whitewashed by wolves, league leaders Arsenal dropped a few points thanks to a determined Everton side, and title chasers City could not capitalize on Arsenals mishap... Could this get any better, I don't think so and the way the top 6 is building up I see a very unfamiliar top 4 finish this time around. I guess bookies have made bank with such results  

I was shocked when 2 minutes before the end of regular time due to a red card, the odds of Tottenham went up to 1.48! LOL! In fact, it was the easiest money (but I passed by). The ending turned out to be adrenaline but Tottenham survived.
It's funny, but it turns out that despite their defeat, Arsenal strengthened their leadership 

Yeah seems a bit strange especially when City is not playing well and Pep is doing his best to loose. First he started with De Bruyne on the bench, granted he is not in some great form but still much better than any other City mid on that position. Then Pep decides to bring him on and of course he pulls Mahrez out of the game, arguably best City player after the restart and person that just hit a post which is more than anybody else did. I did not see Alvarez whole game for instance and he would be my first sub.

1-0 in favor of Tottenham after the first half and bookmakers see this game like this:

2.02 - 3.25 - 4.10

Pretty disrespectful to Tottenham lol, but given how their previous meeting went, it's probably fair. I'm very tempted to bet on Tottenham, but I know that if I do, it definitely won't win - it will be too good to be realized: profit + pleasure from City's defeat 

Chelsea will always carry the headlines. The media hate us.

I'd say milking out Van Dijk without a suitable replacement and letting go of Mane, the team's pivot, without a suitable replacement have contributed to more than 60% of the team's current poor form.

With Arsenal dropping points yesterday to Everton , I see Manchester city throwing everything they have in the last 16 matches as their title hopes are kept alive, and this journey starts with a Spurs team who are unpredictable but I see City winning easy as they have built some good form of late. Inplay prediction City 2-0 win.

Totally agree, and I think with less rotations going around this team, it could actually be an element of fatigue and the lads having nothing more to offer on the pitch until they get some rest. For now they remain to be underdogs in disguise.

Liverpool does have a very decent squad and as you've also pointed out that most of them are of very high standards. however, from my perspective the problem right now lies with Jurgen Klopp's tactics and ideology, the connection between the midfield and the forward line looks rather miserable, but Klopp still doesn't find it reasonable to tweak his team and formation, I'd rather he plays a 3 man defense and absolving TAA of all defensive duties, TAA is better off playing in the midfield and upfront helping in the attack and have 2 CDM to protect the defense line. He should just switch away from his conventional 4-3-3 and try out something entirely different, even if that requires having a couple of the seemingly untouchable players on the bench.

I don't agree that Liverpool is not a good team. Klopp aside - this is the team that broke records in all areas, it is not possible to do that only with good coaching.
Some LFC players are world class, and most of them are of a really high quality.

I can understand the argument if we compare that team to City's or Real Madrid's, but we're getting bullied by Wolves, Brighton and Brentford.
This team surely has enough quality to walk over teams like these, the problem is elsewhere.

Told you, didn't I? Chelsea and every other badly-performing team will not need to worry about the headlines as long as Liverpool continue our slump and bump you all off the pages.

I'm not sure I can ever blame Klopp for this, despite what it seems.

I'm with Welsh here -- Klopp bought's a lot of time and goodwill. We are here because of Klopp, Benitez was a Rafalution but Klopp brought back belief and healed broken bridges.

I know you'll say you pushed Tuchel out because it was untenable but look where you are now? Tuchel didn't get enough goodwill for bringing a trophy, but I'm still fresh off a failed quadruple memory and I can't think of anyone who can take our limping squad across the line.

Anyway, less said about it the better. Just feel like it's the ownership uncertainty and the recruitment staff we let go off that needs fixed first before field personnel... but I don't know where to start.


Yep! I said it before, this was an overperforming team, a sum so much greater than its parts. And such a careful balance that Klopp requires is a team that becomes psychic with its components. Take away a few and we're in trouble, take out many parts, leave the rest in that never recovered physically from last season, and this is the team that plays. Lost at sea and unable to hold the oars.

Too be fair I don't think Liverpool has a team that is really good. I think it was more a masterclass from Klopp to hide all the weakness and achieve what he did. His strongest point was pressing and taking the ball early, if you have only one a player that can't physically or mentally play that game, you look like Liverpool this season. Liverpool is very thin in midfield positions and opponents are now not afraid to attack Liverpool a bit more since they smelled blood in the waters

There is also a case of several unfortunate things combining into this disaster. First there were injuries and defensive frailties and then even attack stopped working. Salah and Nunez are the worst pair in whole league by missed chances. If they scored half of them, things wouldn't be peachy but they would look much better.