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I don't think many clubs in Premier League will be affected by World Cup. Only 2 I would be extra cautious about are United and Spurs. Spurs lost Richarlison to injury in WC, Perišić played almost all minutes and he will need a rest, Lloris just lost the final and Romero just won the final. They could need some time to get back to top form. United lost Dalot to injury and Martinez & Varane were part of the final so their back line is also probably suspect. However they are having very easy fixtures on restart so probably not a big issue.

I am expecting Alvarez to get even more minutes for City now after he had a great WC.

I also think that we will continue to see the great Premier League that we are used to see always.The players who needs to come back in their form,they need to rest a little,if I were the manager of the teams where these players play would not activate them for the first 2-3 games.

Alvarez did a lot for Argentina through this tournament despite him failing to bring anything substantial to the final,I think mostly because he was doing his part in helping Argentina rather than trying to score goals in the finals.Finally one week from today we have the boxing day games or it is 1 January the boxing day,don't remember but what is important is that we are going to see great football again.
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I don't think many clubs in Premier League will be affected by World Cup. Only 2 I would be extra cautious about are United and Spurs. Spurs lost Richarlison to injury in WC, Perišić played almost all minutes and he will need a rest, Lloris just lost the final and Romero just won the final. They could need some time to get back to top form. United lost Dalot to injury and Martinez & Varane were part of the final so their back line is also probably suspect. However they are having very easy fixtures on restart so probably not a big issue.

I am expecting Alvarez to get even more minutes for City now after he had a great WC.
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It's definitely a great game to start the season once again. I can just hope that our players are hungry for football, most of them had a rest while the WC was in place.

We really need to turn the season around and the game vs City will be a good test to see how much work we have done during the break.
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A bit too early to bump thread?

Liverpool play City in the EFL cup in 3 days, so of course I've already thrown down some satoshi on the game heh.

Hard to predict the effect of winning/losing World Cup on returning players -- Fabinho and Alisson in particular, but they hopefully are going to be so hungry to prove themselves even in this Mickey Mouse cup game.

We lost to Lyon but smashed Milan... Nunez a demon, so I can't wait.

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Haha @LFC_Bitcoin now this made me smile. The magnificence, the audacity, the mesmeric awesomeness... of Diego Maradona. May it carry Messi, because for some reason, I've never felt more behind Messi than ever (it's strange isn't it).

More Liverpool players returning to training anyway, and from the way we lost to Lyon (Salah missed a pen, ouch), it does seem like we'll need this week to scrape off the rust!

Have to say, though, we always seem to perform better after losing friendlies...
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Ronaldo will probably find a decent club on a short-term contract until the summer (even Chelsea's rumored to be interested), but that club will be making a mistake in bringing him in. At least in my opinion.

Why is everyone linking him to Chelsea? We've been the ones sending players to Manchester United, not the other way around. We have a much bigger problem, and bringing him to Chelsea would not solve anything, but would cost us a fortune with fewer benefits. If he wants to enjoy his football, he should abandon European football and return to Asia or America for the rest of his football career. Most of those clubs could offer him a player + coach position. Pace is his greatest strength, but he can't brag about it anymore.

He likes Mike Arteta and the way Arsenal plays maybe its time he cross over to Red side of London.

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Yes, we lost it two years ago, I remember perfectly, watching television here, which was already being covered since morning because the rumor had spread that it was not good at all, and I remember that just after noon and everyone believing that as always he was saved, they announced that he had died.

About the pic.... im a little bit lost, i don t know why.... Tongue
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Surely the brunt of the losses will be with Manchester. Ronaldo will obviously be losing his wages but I'm almost certain he will sign with another club in the January transfer window whereas Man U have lost out on potentially selling him and paying him all that money for barely any playing time. It will be interesting to see what happens/where he goes as not many clubs can afford him nor will the big clubs likely have any money left over due to the fair play rules but I wonder if they can get around that since he will be on a free transfer and could take reduced wages so he at least gets to play Champions League football? I wonder if there's any rules on the minimum wages a player can get? Could we see Ronaldo playing for minimum wage of £9.50 an hour just so he gets to play?  Grin

He will be 38 soon, I really don't feel like selling him was an option anymore.

This is a good move for United, they will save a lot of money on his wages considering that the contract termination was mutual.

Ronaldo will probably find a decent club on a short-term contract until the summer (even Chelsea's rumored to be interested), but that club will be making a mistake in bringing him in. At least in my opinion.

Chelsea is suffering exactly there in the forwarding,their attacker cannot score that many goals as needed to win games and give them points despite Chelsea not being in a bad position in the standings.I think Chelsea will make the right move if they manage to bring Ronaldo at Stamford Bridge because they are lacking exactly one player of his qualities.The age sure is a thing but in a team like Chelsea I think this will not be a problem as they are in desperate need of a great striker.
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Surely the brunt of the losses will be with Manchester. Ronaldo will obviously be losing his wages but I'm almost certain he will sign with another club in the January transfer window whereas Man U have lost out on potentially selling him and paying him all that money for barely any playing time. It will be interesting to see what happens/where he goes as not many clubs can afford him nor will the big clubs likely have any money left over due to the fair play rules but I wonder if they can get around that since he will be on a free transfer and could take reduced wages so he at least gets to play Champions League football? I wonder if there's any rules on the minimum wages a player can get? Could we see Ronaldo playing for minimum wage of £9.50 an hour just so he gets to play?  Grin

He will be 38 soon, I really don't feel like selling him was an option anymore.

This is a good move for United, they will save a lot of money on his wages considering that the contract termination was mutual.

Ronaldo will probably find a decent club on a short-term contract until the summer (even Chelsea's rumored to be interested), but that club will be making a mistake in bringing him in. At least in my opinion.
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"Cristiano Ronaldo is to leave Manchester United by mutual agreement, with immediate effect.

The club thanks him for his immense contribution across two spells at Old Trafford." - https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1595107357159297029

I guess that's what we both saw coming, I'm sure more informative details will come to light over the next few days as insiders begin drop them, I'm however sure that the loses would have been incurred on both sides, I'm pretty surprised that they were able to find a common ground to terminate mutually this soon.

Surely the brunt of the losses will be with Manchester. Ronaldo will obviously be losing his wages but I'm almost certain he will sign with another club in the January transfer window whereas Man U have lost out on potentially selling him and paying him all that money for barely any playing time. It will be interesting to see what happens/where he goes as not many clubs can afford him nor will the big clubs likely have any money left over due to the fair play rules but I wonder if they can get around that since he will be on a free transfer and could take reduced wages so he at least gets to play Champions League football? I wonder if there's any rules on the minimum wages a player can get? Could we see Ronaldo playing for minimum wage of £9.50 an hour just so he gets to play?  Grin
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I said even before the start of the season he would have left if he could have got a contract sorted out in time before the transfer window closed and it looked like both him and Man U would have preferred that but it just didn't happen as there's few clubs who can afford his wages. I'm sure he'll go in the next window though. He's kind of forced their hand now so they'll probably let him go at a cut rate or even a loss especially if they would just be benching him otherwise. I think the window opens on the first of Jan so with the World Cup happening in a few days I'm sure his agent will be busy behind the scenes trying to get a deal done.

I'm even thinking of a mutually terminated contract ? That could work too, probably the best case scenario imho, since he's bound to leave freely next summer right ? I guess that could be the best option for Man United, because I'm sure any team willing to get Ronaldo now would try not pay any type of transfer fee given his enormous wages and the circumstances surrounding both parties, and benching Ronaldo all season long would affect both parties too, because Ronaldo would have to get paid regardless, but himself not playing any competitive game for more than 6 months would it's adverse effect on him too.

Yeah, I guess so but Ronaldo would probably come out on top with that deal as he will likely just move on to the same wages or maybe take a little pay cut and United will be out untold millions if they let him go for free, though maybe they'll agree to terminate his contract but the club he leaves for has to either buy him or compensate them.

"Cristiano Ronaldo is to leave Manchester United by mutual agreement, with immediate effect.

The club thanks him for his immense contribution across two spells at Old Trafford." - https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1595107357159297029

I guess that's what we both saw coming, I'm sure more informative details will come to light over the next few days as insiders begin drop them, I'm however sure that the loses would have been incurred on both sides, I'm pretty surprised that they were able to find a common ground to terminate mutually this soon.
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I can't really see him as a manger either and I don't think he'd make a good pundit  Grin.
Great players rarely make good managers; he may end up as a pundit on Sky Sports, which is full with controversial ex-players.

He's not really a good talker though so I can't see him as a pundit. The money isn't good either. Maybe he will do one off things but being a pundit almost certainly isn't where he will end up.

He has already made it plain that he would retire if Portugal wins the world cup, he knows his time is off but he is a prideful man and refuses to admit it. At his age, he should have been enjoying football in America or China for a large salary, but the GOAT thing has ruined him. He enjoys fashion, but I doubt he'd pursue modeling. However, he thinks coaching is simple, so he might want to become one.

I think he'll make a terrible coach too, I like his passion and hunger for success at every given opportunity, but if he becomes a coach, I really can't see beyond a Mourinho v2.0 but with probably zero titles to show for it and it will be easier to point fingers at his players, at every chance he gets. Ronaldo right up till now still gets upset and shows it evidently if he is through on goal and teammate probably unintentionally didn't see him, and as such goes all the way for the goal opportunity in a somewhat selfish manner, at his age and experience garnered you'd expect him to be able to overlook these things occasionally but he never does, and he's barely being friends with players from his previous clubs, especially if they get to give a positive about another player for being good or the best even without making comparison with him, I think he just needs to learn a lot about being humble enough, he arguably is one of the best player to have ever graced a football pitch, and his records and numbers are there to speak for him, so I really wonder if he would have been able to handle to half the criticism that Messi have gotten over the years of Barcelona woes and his first season at PSG, especially during international duties woes too despite it being obvious that Messi actually did well in some of those tournaments but it takes more than just one player to win a trophy, I actually hate to compare both players for any reason whatsoever, because I believe they are two completely different players, but some actions are rather just not excusable.
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I can't really see him as a manger either and I don't think he'd make a good pundit  Grin.
Great players rarely make good managers; he may end up as a pundit on Sky Sports, which is full with controversial ex-players.

He's not really a good talker though so I can't see him as a pundit. The money isn't good either. Maybe he will do one off things but being a pundit almost certainly isn't where he will end up.

He has already made it plain that he would retire if Portugal wins the world cup, he knows his time is off but he is a prideful man and refuses to admit it. At his age, he should have been enjoying football in America or China for a large salary, but the GOAT thing has ruined him. He enjoys fashion, but I doubt he'd pursue modeling. However, he thinks coaching is simple, so he might want to become one.
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I said even before the start of the season he would have left if he could have got a contract sorted out in time before the transfer window closed and it looked like both him and Man U would have preferred that but it just didn't happen as there's few clubs who can afford his wages. I'm sure he'll go in the next window though. He's kind of forced their hand now so they'll probably let him go at a cut rate or even a loss especially if they would just be benching him otherwise. I think the window opens on the first of Jan so with the World Cup happening in a few days I'm sure his agent will be busy behind the scenes trying to get a deal done.

I'm even thinking of a mutually terminated contract ? That could work too, probably the best case scenario imho, since he's bound to leave freely next summer right ? I guess that could be the best option for Man United, because I'm sure any team willing to get Ronaldo now would try not pay any type of transfer fee given his enormous wages and the circumstances surrounding both parties, and benching Ronaldo all season long would affect both parties too, because Ronaldo would have to get paid regardless, but himself not playing any competitive game for more than 6 months would it's adverse effect on him too.

Yeah, I guess so but Ronaldo would probably come out on top with that deal as he will likely just move on to the same wages or maybe take a little pay cut and United will be out untold millions if they let him go for free, though maybe they'll agree to terminate his contract but the club he leaves for has to either buy him or compensate them.

When does his contract expire? I'd say that's the most likely option out of all the options, run down his contract, and he finds a new team after that fact. I do feel for the fans, and Ronaldo. He's been hushed out, but the fans have basically lost a legend. They basically idolized him, and I'm not sure if that'll be the case after this since he didn't just come after the owners, he seemed to come after some previous team mates too, which I found a little odd.

It was probably on a per season basis, but I don't think either parties want to be where they are now and both will want to be out of the door. You can't really disrespect a club like that and expect to keep your place. What he's done is pretty much unprecedented, and if they allow it it sets a very bad precedent for the future so they kind of need to get rid of him. Ronaldo doesn't want to be there and United don't want him or can't really keep him now so he probably needs to go. I'm sure both the club and his agent are going to be using this month plus break to get a deal done.

I can't really see him as a manger either and I don't think he'd make a good pundit  Grin.
Great players rarely make good managers; he may end up as a pundit on Sky Sports, which is full with controversial ex-players.

He's not really a good talker though so I can't see him as a pundit. The money isn't good either. Maybe he will do one off things but being a pundit almost certainly isn't where he will end up.
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No serious club would want him in their dressing room after what has happened with him, his performance has diminished, he would only be valuable to clubs who want him for business interests.
Under Sol I believe he had something like 18 goals, which was only a couple off the top scorers of the league, in a very lacklustre United team. So, I don't think his performances have justified the treatment he has received.

He had all of the players playing for him, which cost the team two managers and two years of champions league qualifications. In addition, the majority of those goals weren't point-earners; instead, they were either an equalizing goal or a consolation goal. The team finished second the season before Ronaldo joined the club, thus I'd argue they were better off without him..

I don't think there is any way back for both parties from this outburst, I think Ronaldo knew exactly what he was doing and waited for the World Cup Break before having the interview and going against all those that have at some point rated him as the best player in the history of football simply because he won't bring himself to admit that there's been a decline in his performance and age is eventually catching up with him.
We are witnessing Ronaldo's endtime; the only reason he is working so hard to find a more balanced squad where he would merely sit and score is to keep the GOAT debate alive. No more pressing, pace and  dribbling; the only skill that is left is his shooting. If he retires after the world cup, I won't be shocked.

I can't really see him as a manger either and I don't think he'd make a good pundit  Grin.
Great players rarely make good managers; he may end up as a pundit on Sky Sports, which is full with controversial ex-players.
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I'm even thinking of a mutually terminated contract ? That could work too, probably the best case scenario imho, since he's bound to leave freely next summer right ? I guess that could be the best option for Man United, because I'm sure any team willing to get Ronaldo now would try not pay any type of transfer fee given his enormous wages and the circumstances surrounding both parties, and benching Ronaldo all season long would affect both parties too, because Ronaldo would have to get paid regardless, but himself not playing any competitive game for more than 6 months would it's adverse effect on him too.
I doubt it. It doesn't look like they are seeing eye to eye right now. So, them reaching an agreement amicably probably isn't going to work. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Glazers hit back at Ronaldo, and went looking for damages to reputation. It could potentially get really messy from here on out. Although, I imagine he'll just be fined, and they'll look to offload him.

When does his contract expire? I'd say that's the most likely option out of all the options, run down his contract, and he finds a new team after that fact. I do feel for the fans, and Ronaldo. He's been hushed out, but the fans have basically lost a legend. They basically idolized him, and I'm not sure if that'll be the case after this since he didn't just come after the owners, he seemed to come after some previous team mates too, which I found a little odd.
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I said even before the start of the season he would have left if he could have got a contract sorted out in time before the transfer window closed and it looked like both him and Man U would have preferred that but it just didn't happen as there's few clubs who can afford his wages. I'm sure he'll go in the next window though. He's kind of forced their hand now so they'll probably let him go at a cut rate or even a loss especially if they would just be benching him otherwise. I think the window opens on the first of Jan so with the World Cup happening in a few days I'm sure his agent will be busy behind the scenes trying to get a deal done.

I'm even thinking of a mutually terminated contract ? That could work too, probably the best case scenario imho, since he's bound to leave freely next summer right ? I guess that could be the best option for Man United, because I'm sure any team willing to get Ronaldo now would try not pay any type of transfer fee given his enormous wages and the circumstances surrounding both parties, and benching Ronaldo all season long would affect both parties too, because Ronaldo would have to get paid regardless, but himself not playing any competitive game for more than 6 months would it's adverse effect on him too.
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You simply can't talk such things when you're still part of club, it's just not professional. And what he said about Garry Neville and especially Rooney just because they criticize him looked so bad. They can't criticize you just because they were your teammates?
I don't believe that MU can terminate contract after this interview. I read that Ronaldo may get £1 million penalty from club, it's something like 2 weeks wage for him.
And I'm sure that there is still plenty of clubs who still would like to have Ronaldo, they just don't have that much money. What isn't allowed for other players is OK for Ronaldo.

Terminating him would cost Manchester United a fortune, but the two weeks' salary penalty (the FA's maximum punishment for a player) plus him sitting on the bench until he finds a new club would suffice. No serious club would want him in their dressing room after what has happened with him, his performance has diminished, he would only be valuable to clubs who want him for business interests.

A lot of clubs will still gladly take him but I'm sure his recent behaviour will make some clubs hesitant or make them think twice now. I think he has to be careful with his attitude because at the tail end of his career it might force him to retire early if he can't get the big clubs and at his age I think he's going to go downhill fast and a lot of teams won't want the risk along with the high price tag. I really can't ever see Ronaldo playing for some shitter like a lot of greats past their prime end up doing so if he can't play for a prestigious club he will probably have to retire unless he goes back to Portugal to his boyhood team. I'm not sure what he'd do after football. I can't really see him as a manger either and I don't think he'd make a good pundit  Grin.

I don't think there is any way back for both parties from this outburst, I think Ronaldo knew exactly what he was doing and waited for the World Cup Break before having the interview and going against all those that have at some point rated him as the best player in the history of football simply because he won't bring himself to admit that there's been a decline in his performance and age is eventually catching up with him, I believe these are those times when you just need to keep quite and try to up your game and prove them wrong, everyone have been at the stage at one point or the other and Ronaldo ego makes him believe he is immune to critics, and his antics even when on the pitch shows all he's about is just his goals and not the team at large, so he's fine with calling people out and referring to his personal accolades but wouldn't accept he's no longer that person.

I said even before the start of the season he would have left if he could have got a contract sorted out in time before the transfer window closed and it looked like both him and Man U would have preferred that but it just didn't happen as there's few clubs who can afford his wages. I'm sure he'll go in the next window though. He's kind of forced their hand now so they'll probably let him go at a cut rate or even a loss especially if they would just be benching him otherwise. I think the window opens on the first of Jan so with the World Cup happening in a few days I'm sure his agent will be busy behind the scenes trying to get a deal done.
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You simply can't talk such things when you're still part of club, it's just not professional. And what he said about Garry Neville and especially Rooney just because they criticize him looked so bad. They can't criticize you just because they were your teammates?
I don't believe that MU can terminate contract after this interview. I read that Ronaldo may get £1 million penalty from club, it's something like 2 weeks wage for him.
And I'm sure that there is still plenty of clubs who still would like to have Ronaldo, they just don't have that much money. What isn't allowed for other players is OK for Ronaldo.

Terminating him would cost Manchester United a fortune, but the two weeks' salary penalty (the FA's maximum punishment for a player) plus him sitting on the bench until he finds a new club would suffice. No serious club would want him in their dressing room after what has happened with him, his performance has diminished, he would only be valuable to clubs who want him for business interests.

I don't think there is any way back for both parties from this outburst, I think Ronaldo knew exactly what he was doing and waited for the World Cup Break before having the interview and going against all those that have at some point rated him as the best player in the history of football simply because he won't bring himself to admit that there's been a decline in his performance and age is eventually catching up with him, I believe these are those times when you just need to keep quite and try to up your game and prove them wrong, everyone have been at the stage at one point or the other and Ronaldo ego makes him believe he is immune to critics, and his antics even when on the pitch shows all he's about is just his goals and not the team at large, so he's fine with calling people out and referring to his personal accolades but wouldn't accept he's no longer that person.
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