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And I think that we're playing bad defenders. Matip's back but not at his best. Fabi's all right but he's wasted in CB (as was Hendo). The nett result is our midfielders are scurrying back to cover more (because also forget Trent especially, he's really bad at defending), and spending less time trying to get creative supply to our front 3.

Not even VAR intervention for the Burnley handball, that's what I meant by consistency too. No excuses. We played badly.

Dude, VAR has been screwing us all season. With all the injuries too we’re just not going to win the title. We have to ensure we finish in the top 4 though, get this season over with & then go again tomorrow.
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And I think that we're playing bad defenders. Matip's back but not at his best. Fabi's all right but he's wasted in CB (as was Hendo). The nett result is our midfielders are scurrying back to cover more (because also forget Trent especially, he's really bad at defending), and spending less time trying to get creative supply to our front 3.

Not even VAR intervention for the Burnley handball, that's what I meant by consistency too. No excuses. We played badly.
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^  Player fatigue...  I think.  Klopp’s players are made to ruuuun and play more intense with the press and the counter press.  At least  more intense than most sides they play against.  

Webtricks got the pick right.  Cheesy

With a correct score tonight you will likely win this round. Looks like we'll probably have another unique round winner as cygan, toke and big G are all in the running for it and all have different scores unless they change them.

i am also finally happy about my first round win Grin
you have to be careful now - i will try to keep the gap to tomahawk9 as small as possible Cool

in any case, things are going better for me here than in the german bundesliga prediction game. Smiley
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There's no games this weekend other than the rescheduled Villa/Newcastle game on saturday. Next round starts on Tuesday.

What round did you win it in? There may have been more games than usual in that round.



It was in round 12 with 10 games.
But is for me (honest!) no issue to give up place 1 even if there were more games this round. It will never be completely comparable and I don't see it that tight.
Besides, there is no prize for the best yellow cap of the season anyway, is there? Grin

Had you got the score right yesterday you would have been in with winning this round too. Surprised someone went for a Burnley win but it paid off. I think a lot of people will be weary of backing them from now on. They're playing Spurs next week and I doubt I'll be backing them for a win there.

^  Player fatigue...  I think.  Klopp’s players are made to ruuuun and play more intense with the press and the counter press.  At least  more intense than most sides they play against.  

Webtricks got the pick right.  Cheesy

With a correct score tonight you will likely win this round. Looks like we'll probably have another unique round winner as cygan, toke and big G are all in the running for it and all have different scores unless they change them.
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^  Player fatigue...  I think.  Klopp’s players are made to ruuuun and play more intense with the press and the counter press.  At least  more intense than most sides they play against.  

Webtricks got the pick right.  Cheesy
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What is going on Liverpool!
Burnley! And in Anfield!
I can not believe it's all happening against us. In fact we are here to be blamed.

Boys are not confident. They lose aggression when they are close to the D box. So many times they slowed down before the final touch, so many times Burnley blocked. Is this even imaginable!

What the fuck Origi had in mind when him and Burnley keeper was the one head to head? Was it the result of being too confident or just careless shot, he could have pass it to Firnimo (I think he was the guy in his left) and Firmino could easily score as keeper was already be beaten.

We are champion but these days we are playing like shit! This has to end.
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Well that would certainly add consistency, but what about the times when it's blasted at someone's hand point-blank or if a player purposely kicks/heads it onto someone's hand? There's always tricky situations like this that will arise, but back in the day if it hit your hand in the penalty area regardless of how it got there then it was a penalty.

I feel like consistency is the most important thing. If a player can purposely hit other player's hand with a ball then it can be counted as skill. At least you know what are the rules and there is no room for interpretation.

I actually played futsal (5 on 5) against one team and they insisted on those kind of rules. Their pitch was really narrow and when you stand in front of guy taking corner you are actually standing inside your penalty area. Then the guy just kicks the ball into you and tries to hit your hand. That kind of play works once and then you adapt.

As much as I hate that people will take advantage of it, kicking it directly into the hands of the opponent, but at least there is no more argument when it's consistent.

I agree with Trofo (I played for futsal than football in my latter years) and there, in most non-competitive matches, teams always ask for a handball however the intention or direction. I was a victim a lot, because they'd just kick it into me from a corner (I'm always guarding) and exactly that, I learnt to adapt. I had to even learn to ASK for handball because instinctively, I ignore unintentional handball.

I personally don't like it, but then there's no more argument, and then people can adapt, punish more severely intentional handballs, or at least, count unintentional ones as indirect freekicks in the penalty box. Still better than maybe-handball, maybe-not.

Anyway, definitely not a good day for VAR yesterday in City's match. I know offside resets after defender controls ball, but no VAR intervention (just referee decision)... and supporters and referees in general don't allow an offside attacker to intervene with play later. I feel like it gives you an advantage. You're coming from behind the defender, who psychologically thinks you're offside anyway... but yeah I would forgive all that if Villa also would have their penalty given for handball.
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What round did you win it in? There may have been more games than usual in that round.



It was in round 12 with 10 games.
But is for me (honest!) no issue to give up place 1 even if there were more games this round. It will never be completely comparable and I don't see it that tight.
Besides, there is no prize for the best yellow cap of the season anyway, is there? Grin
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I didn't watch the game just the highlights but didn't he get back onside in time? They didn't show any VAR checks though the commentator mentioned it had been checked and cleared. What I don't get though is how Villa didn't get a penalty for handball and then the ref goes and gives one later for the City player heading the ball directly onto the Villa players hand. There's no consistency for the handball rule.

This is my main gripe with VAR -- I have other big ones too -- in that it hasn't been consistent in either its use (sometimes VAR, sometimes not) or in its application (I thought handball was handball now).

Handball situations are really destroying VAR credibility. Everybody can see the ball hitting the hand and then they feel cheated when there is no penalty. I believe we should go back to that rule, every handball is a penalty. It is not perfect and it leads to some really "unfair" situations for defenders but at least the rules are same for all clubs and there can't be extra discussions.

Sort of same like when ball hits opponents in leg during handball match. It is always a ball for the opponent and if it was intentional then you have extra punishment as well.

Well that would certainly add consistency, but what about the times when it's blasted at someone's hand point-blank or if a player purposely kicks/heads it onto someone's hand? There's always tricky situations like this that will arise, but back in the day if it hit your hand in the penalty area regardless of how it got there then it was a penalty.

I feel like consistency is the most important thing. If a player can purposely hit other player's hand with a ball then it can be counted as skill. At least you know what are the rules and there is no room for interpretation.

I actually played futsal (5 on 5) against one team and they insisted on those kind of rules. Their pitch was really narrow and when you stand in front of guy taking corner you are actually standing inside your penalty area. Then the guy just kicks the ball into you and tries to hit your hand. That kind of play works once and then you adapt.
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I didn't watch the game just the highlights but didn't he get back onside in time? They didn't show any VAR checks though the commentator mentioned it had been checked and cleared. What I don't get though is how Villa didn't get a penalty for handball and then the ref goes and gives one later for the City player heading the ball directly onto the Villa players hand. There's no consistency for the handball rule.

This is my main gripe with VAR -- I have other big ones too -- in that it hasn't been consistent in either its use (sometimes VAR, sometimes not) or in its application (I thought handball was handball now).

Handball situations are really destroying VAR credibility. Everybody can see the ball hitting the hand and then they feel cheated when there is no penalty. I believe we should go back to that rule, every handball is a penalty. It is not perfect and it leads to some really "unfair" situations for defenders but at least the rules are same for all clubs and there can't be extra discussions.

Sort of same like when ball hits opponents in leg during handball match. It is always a ball for the opponent and if it was intentional then you have extra punishment as well.

Well that would certainly add consistency, but what about the times when it's blasted at someone's hand point-blank or if a player purposely kicks/heads it onto someone's hand? There's always tricky situations like this that will arise, but back in the day if it hit your hand in the penalty area regardless of how it got there then it was a penalty.

Perhaps we should count as well only the first 10 games then, and figure out the other rounds. Definitely don't want mole to be feeling cheated -- Besides, Superbru themselves have already said only the first 10 count for their weekly prize;)

It doesn't really matter to be honest. There's no prizes up for grabs. Like I said before we should just put an asterix on this round high score with the number of extra games played.

Perhaps we should count as well only the first 10 games then, and figure out the other rounds. Definitely don't want mole to be feeling cheated -- Besides, Superbru themselves have already said only the first 10 count for their weekly prize;)

Very nice proposal, thank you!
I would of course also understand if the complete match day is taken into consideration... but of course if even Superbru has chosen a different approach, we can gladly take it too Grin
Currently I am very close to a top 10 ranking. I never thought I had such a good chance and I hope it stays that way for a while.

What round did you win it in? There may have been more games than usual in that round.
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Perhaps we should count as well only the first 10 games then, and figure out the other rounds. Definitely don't want mole to be feeling cheated -- Besides, Superbru themselves have already said only the first 10 count for their weekly prize;)

Very nice proposal, thank you!
I would of course also understand if the complete match day is taken into consideration... but of course if even Superbru has chosen a different approach, we can gladly take it too Grin
Currently I am very close to a top 10 ranking. I never thought I had such a good chance and I hope it stays that way for a while.
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I didn't watch the game just the highlights but didn't he get back onside in time? They didn't show any VAR checks though the commentator mentioned it had been checked and cleared. What I don't get though is how Villa didn't get a penalty for handball and then the ref goes and gives one later for the City player heading the ball directly onto the Villa players hand. There's no consistency for the handball rule.

This is my main gripe with VAR -- I have other big ones too -- in that it hasn't been consistent in either its use (sometimes VAR, sometimes not) or in its application (I thought handball was handball now).

Handball situations are really destroying VAR credibility. Everybody can see the ball hitting the hand and then they feel cheated when there is no penalty. I believe we should go back to that rule, every handball is a penalty. It is not perfect and it leads to some really "unfair" situations for defenders but at least the rules are same for all clubs and there can't be extra discussions.

Sort of same like when ball hits opponents in leg during handball match. It is always a ball for the opponent and if it was intentional then you have extra punishment as well.
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3 more games and leader already has 17 points. I guess we will see a very high yellow cap round!

Well we will but that's only because it's essentially a double round with the rescheduled games. I think Superbru should have probably counted the cancelled games as another round as this one kind of skews the high-score from a round overall. It looks like mole's highest scoring round of 19 will likely be beaten with 4 games left.

But that would not make me happy Shocked
The last results were only partially pleasing... so it would be doubly bad if I had to give up my first place.
I'm afraid that I won't be able to achieve such a performance again and that this was my only chance for the best yellow cap of the season Cool

Perhaps we should count as well only the first 10 games then, and figure out the other rounds. Definitely don't want mole to be feeling cheated -- Besides, Superbru themselves have already said only the first 10 count for their weekly prize;)

I didn't watch the game just the highlights but didn't he get back onside in time? They didn't show any VAR checks though the commentator mentioned it had been checked and cleared. What I don't get though is how Villa didn't get a penalty for handball and then the ref goes and gives one later for the City player heading the ball directly onto the Villa players hand. There's no consistency for the handball rule.

This is my main gripe with VAR -- I have other big ones too -- in that it hasn't been consistent in either its use (sometimes VAR, sometimes not) or in its application (I thought handball was handball now).
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So how is that first goal from City allowed to stand? It was 15 meters offside and player activated from that and used his position to get the ball. Premier league really has some very strange decisions.

I didn't watch the game just the highlights but didn't he get back onside in time? They didn't show any VAR checks though the commentator mentioned it had been checked and cleared. What I don't get though is how Villa didn't get a penalty for handball and then the ref goes and gives one later for the City player heading the ball directly onto the Villa players hand. There's no consistency for the handball rule.


This round will surely mark the highest score in the yellow cap not only during this season but for years to come if a round of 15 games doesn’t happen again in the Superbru predictor.I am neutral in this round as I started in the worst possible way like many others but have got a lot of close results which left me in 29 place but compared to 5 place only 20 points behind.It is tough in here.

There will be other rounds with rescheduled games both in this season and future ones but I think we should put an asterisk on this rounds winner due to it essentially being a double round. There's no prizes for the highest score this year though so it doesn't matter too much.
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So how is that first goal from City allowed to stand? It was 15 meters offside and player activated from that and used his position to get the ball. Premier league really has some very strange decisions.

Falling down the ranks little by little in our predictor. Correct score on United game helped me a little to stop the rot but it is time to start putting in better predictions Smiley

This round will surely mark the highest score in the yellow cap not only during this season but for years to come if a round of 15 games doesn’t happen again in the Superbru predictor.I am neutral in this round as I started in the worst possible way like many others but have got a lot of close results which left me in 29 place but compared to 5 place only 20 points behind.It is tough in here.
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So how is that first goal from City allowed to stand? It was 15 meters offside and player activated from that and used his position to get the ball. Premier league really has some very strange decisions.

Falling down the ranks little by little in our predictor. Correct score on United game helped me a little to stop the rot but it is time to start putting in better predictions Smiley
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Only two of us made that exact prediction; with 41 of us predicting the Citizens win this match.
They should win. I want them to lose points but I have a bet on them and I picked 3 - 0 win for them. So it's a double edge sword for me LOL

They win pressure on Liverpool but I get points on the pool and a win in the 6 legs slip. By the way I really do not care about other teams in the point table.


Looks like we will have a close call in this round. We could not know yet who will win the rounds? Those guys with 17, 16, 15 or anyone from lower points.

Too bad for me, I went with 3 - 0 win for Man City this time around  Sad

I've also got Man Utd 2  - 0 against Fulham, but that's not going to work either, At least Man Utd have drawn level against Fulham.
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Only two of us made that exact prediction; with 41 of us predicting the Citizens win this match.
They should win. I want them to lose points but I have a bet on them and I picked 3 - 0 win for them. So it's a double edge sword for me LOL

They win pressure on Liverpool but I get points on the pool and a win in the 6 legs slip. By the way I really do not care about other teams in the point table.


Looks like we will have a close call in this round. We could not know yet who will win the rounds? Those guys with 17, 16, 15 or anyone from lower points.
Match started just check very bad start for many members here in this pool but good thing ideal start for our friends @BitcoinGirl.club and @LFC_Liverpool because just after 6 minutes Fulham leading by 1 - 0 courtsy of Lookman's goal but still its very long way to go hopefully we will watch a interesting match with full of many goals. Smiley
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Only two of us made that exact prediction; with 41 of us predicting the Citizens win this match.
They should win. I want them to lose points but I have a bet on them and I picked 3 - 0 win for them. So it's a double edge sword for me LOL

They win pressure on Liverpool but I get points on the pool and a win in the 6 legs slip. By the way I really do not care about other teams in the point table.


Looks like we will have a close call in this round. We could not know yet who will win the rounds? Those guys with 17, 16, 15 or anyone from lower points.
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Man. City - Aston Villa tied 0:0 @ HT.

Only two of us made that exact prediction; with 41 of us predicting the Citizens win this match.
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