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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 31, 2018, 02:32:26 PM

I always end up slacking in Fantasy League tournaments. You can change your captain each week & they get double points. Sometimes though certain teams have 2 games in 7 days so you can factor that in. It’s really hard to keep up with, I might give that one a miss.

Edit - Just saw BBC predictor might not be available. How are we going to do it?

You can find that the BBC site won't be available but not the replacement? We will be using superbru.com unless anyone has any other suggestions: https://www.superbru.com/premierleague_predictor/start.php

It seems they also do a fantasy one.

Also, good news in that Cloudbet will be sponsoring the tournament and they will be putting $500 into the pot for the winners so the prize fund is over £1000 now. Hopefully we can get some more sign-ups to bolster the pot even more. I'll probably start collecting money in at the end of the week or early next week so keep an eye out for that.

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I always end up slacking in Fantasy League tournaments. You can change your captain each week & they get double points. Sometimes though certain teams have 2 games in 7 days so you can factor that in. It’s really hard to keep up with, I might give that one a miss.

Edit - Just saw BBC predictor might not be available. How are we going to do it?

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^ I think the people who'll like fantasy football would be the ones willing to shell out more than 25 GBP to play for one whole season. It's actually hard work, so there should be higher rewards imo.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 30, 2018, 03:35:27 PM

Quote from: BitcoinSupremo on July 30, 2018, 02:36:23 PM

It is a shame that BBC predictor won't be available. That is the best scoring system and I think it is much but much better than the FIFA predictor way with round results giving you a lot of points which I totally disagree with. I hope we can find a website with the same exact scoring system as the BBC predictor otherwise the fun will be much less than last year.

Imo the world cup was better because of the joker prediction which can be a nice comeback mechanic if you're way down the rankings. Superbru's scoring system is somewhat similar to the bbc predictor the only difference is that they have lesser punishment since you'll get half extra if your prediction is a goal off from the exact score.

But on the flipside it kind of made it unfair. I did pretty shit in the end of the tournament finishing quite low down, but if one of my jokers had come in on the last round or two then I would have likely made it to the top five. I didn't like how the points changed with how popular the score was as well. I prefer a scoring system with some uniformity so you know where you stand. I kinda like how on the superbru site you still get some points if you're one goal out or whatever so it's at lest some consolation because I'm often stuffed at the last minute by a sneaky goal which is always frustrating.

Quote from: ralle14 on July 30, 2018, 03:35:27 PM

If you guys are going to set up a fantasy i'm down to join the pool. I don't know how fantasy football goes but i'm interested in trying it out so i'll be ready if there will be a paid one next season.

From what I understand, you are like a fantasy manager and have some sort of budget to buy a squad of players from throughout the league. They get points based on goals, how well they've played, assists, tackles etc and the person with the most points from their squad wins. I'll give it a go this season and see how people like it.

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Quote from: BitcoinSupremo on July 30, 2018, 02:36:23 PM

It is a shame that BBC predictor won't be available. That is the best scoring system and I think it is much but much better than the FIFA predictor way with round results giving you a lot of points which I totally disagree with. I hope we can find a website with the same exact scoring system as the BBC predictor otherwise the fun will be much less than last year.

Imo the world cup was better because of the joker prediction which can be a nice comeback mechanic if you're way down the rankings. Superbru's scoring system is somewhat similar to the bbc predictor the only difference is that they have lesser punishment since you'll get half extra if your prediction is a goal off from the exact score.

If you guys are going to set up a fantasy i'm down to join the pool. I don't know how fantasy football goes but i'm interested in trying it out so i'll be ready if there will be a paid one next season.

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It is a shame that BBC predictor won't be available. That is the best scoring system and I think it is much but much better than the FIFA predictor way with round results giving you a lot of points which I totally disagree with. I hope we can find a website with the same exact scoring system as the BBC predictor otherwise the fun will be much less than last year.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 30, 2018, 09:25:57 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on July 30, 2018, 09:10:43 AM

On the fantasy league, can you see everybody else picks once they've made them? I remember a friend of mine who used to do one said it was a bit shit because some people would just copy the best 'managers', especially once they got in front so there was no way they could catch up.

Yes and no. You can view everybody else's team whenever you like, but you will be looking at their team from last week. You can only view other players' teams for the current week after the deadline for transfers and substitutions has passed, so if you were to try to copy someone, you would be a week out.

Correct, but you only have one free transfer between matchdays so you can actually predict majority of your opponent players.
That being said I am playing for 5 years and it is absolutely great and addictive game. I have missed unimportant meetings at work in order to tweak my team just one last time

I am already playing Fantasy with my mates with entry of about 30$ and would very much like to join the league here as well. I am little skeptical regarding attendance. I created one for World Cup and there was only 3 other guys from Croatian section that joined. Therefore, if we could get some small symbolic reward from some sponsor....could help a lot.

Only problem is what someone else mentioned above. Long time Fantasy players probably have accounts created with their real names/data which could be a little tricky in this community.

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If you need/want some help I can create and organize this one. Maybe even post some tips for new comers. Of course If we decide to have some money involved you should be our keeper/escrow since I don't have any reputation on this forum. For example I believe that you can't create or even join leagues before you create your team, which can take some time.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on July 30, 2018, 09:10:43 AM

On the fantasy league, can you see everybody else picks once they've made them? I remember a friend of mine who used to do one said it was a bit shit because some people would just copy the best 'managers', especially once they got in front so there was no way they could catch up.

Yes and no. You can view everybody else's team whenever you like, but you will be looking at their team from last week. You can only view other players' teams for the current week after the deadline for transfers and substitutions has passed, so if you were to try to copy someone, you would be a week out.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 30, 2018, 06:33:42 AM

I have played FPL for the last 6 years, so would be happy to offer advice/help out if required. It's free to use the site and you can have as many people as you want in a private league. The only issue is the account most people who already play use is linked to their real name, since they mostly play with real life friends, so people might want to create a separate account for privacy reasons which is technically against the rules.

It is a fair amount of work if you want to remain competitive. I am in the opppsite situation to you - the reason I've not signed up for your prediction pool is because I already spend too long on my team without also having to predict scores, haha.

Predicting scores is much easier than picking and swapping players and having to do the research every week etc. I guess you can make this game as easy or as complicated as you want to. Some people will do their scores in a minute just by heart, and others will probably go a bit further and check form and previous results etc. I don't think joining this pool will take up that much more of your time.

On the fantasy league, can you see everybody else picks once they've made them? I remember a friend of mine who used to do one said it was a bit shit because some people would just copy the best 'managers', especially once they got in front so there was no way they could catch up.

Quote from: tokeweed on July 30, 2018, 08:05:21 AM

I'd love to play even if it's for free.

I guess I can set one up, but I'm not sure I'd do a pay to play one yet. I've no idea if I'd make it through a whole season. Depends how much work it is. Maybe we can do one for free as a tester this season. If it's a success or people like it then we can do a paid one.

Quote from: tokeweed on July 30, 2018, 08:05:21 AM

Maybe we can even get a bookie to sponsor a little prize money in exchange for their banner posted and their name in the title...? Something like 'Nitrogensports BTC Community Fantasy League'.

How hard would it be to get them in?

I may or may not already have one for this pool Wink

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Quote from: hilariousetc on July 30, 2018, 06:01:17 AM

Quote from: Trofo on July 30, 2018, 05:48:52 AM

I suggested that one previously for the world cup competition but they had complicated scoring for that one. I actually used it last season for Premier League and they are quite ok. They will even remind you over Email to enter predictions. I believe they are running it for a lot of different competitions.

OK. Thanks. I guess we'll go with that one unless we find anything else that's better. It's a shame the Premier League doesn't have an official one like FIFA did for the World Cup. I saw they have a free to play fantasy league though: https://fantasy.premierleague.com/

Maybe we could do that as well if people are interested, though I've never took part in one before and think I would prefer the correct scores. A fantasy league looks like too much work to me haha. Maybe we could do a free to play one for this season and see how it goes.

YES PLEASE! I'd love to play that one. I played some twice back in the day with some friends when I had FB still. It's fun!

I'd love to play even if it's for free. Maybe we can even get a bookie to sponsor a little prize money in exchange for their banner posted and their name in the title...? Something like 'Nitrogensports BTC Community Fantasy League'.

How hard would it be to get them in?

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Quote from: hilariousetc on July 30, 2018, 06:01:17 AM

Maybe we could do that as well if people are interested, though I've never took part in one before and think I would prefer the correct scores. A fantasy league looks like too much work to me haha. Maybe we could do a free to play one for this season and see how it goes.

I have played FPL for the last 6 years, so would be happy to offer advice/help out if required. It's free to use the site and you can have as many people as you want in a private league. The only issue is the account most people who already play use is linked to their real name, since they mostly play with real life friends, so people might want to create a separate account for privacy reasons which is technically against the rules.

It is a fair amount of work if you want to remain competitive. I am in the opppsite situation to you - the reason I've not signed up for your prediction pool is because I already spend too long on my team without also having to predict scores, haha.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on July 30, 2018, 05:00:05 AM

Is that the one that somebody suggested previously? I'd like to check out a couple predictors to see what the best one is before we commit. I'd like something as close as possible to the BBC one we used, but more importantly it needs to be reliable. That scoring system seems fine though. The odds of somebody getting 7 correct scores though is astronomical. It's like SkyBet's SuperSix which hardly anybody ever wins, but with one more haha.

Ah, so Trofo was the one who suggested. I actually just only found it. Looks like it's been around for a while, judging from the history of other players I've checked out. I agree on reliability 100%, and this one looks like it's been battle-tested for many rounds and other sports, but can't speak for it personally as have never tried (perhaps for the interest of experimenting I'll try it anyway even if we don't settle on it).

7 is absolutely crazy, agree. We had someone hit 5 in our last pool didn't we and that was rare enough. But it's a nice bonus on the off chance someone's favoured by the gods, something extra to play for... and it seems to record all our performances over seasons. Maybe this pool becomes a regular feature.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 30, 2018, 05:48:52 AM

I suggested that one previously for the world cup competition but they had complicated scoring for that one. I actually used it last season for Premier League and they are quite ok. They will even remind you over Email to enter predictions. I believe they are running it for a lot of different competitions.

OK. Thanks. I guess we'll go with that one unless we find anything else that's better. It's a shame the Premier League doesn't have an official one like FIFA did for the World Cup. I saw they have a free to play fantasy league though: https://fantasy.premierleague.com/

Maybe we could do that as well if people are interested, though I've never took part in one before and think I would prefer the correct scores. A fantasy league looks like too much work to me haha. Maybe we could do a free to play one for this season and see how it goes.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on July 30, 2018, 05:00:05 AM

Quote from: buwaytress on July 30, 2018, 04:32:39 AM

How about this one?
https://www.superbru.com/premierleague_predictor

Scoring system is ALMOST similar. 3 points for exact score. 1 point for correct outcome. 1.5 points for "close"... correct outcome plus 1 goal off or correct goal difference, same style as FIFA World Cup predictor.

There's also 15 "default picks" that will enter the most popular score if you forget/miss games, so that's good for everyone who inevitably will miss a few games throughout the season.

There's also additional prizes for getting exact scores in 7 games or more in a given round: https://www.superbru.com/premierleague_predictor/prize_jackpot.php

Is that the one that somebody suggested previously? I'd like to check out a couple predictors to see what the best one is before we commit. I'd like something as close as possible to the BBC one we used, but more importantly it needs to be reliable. That scoring system seems fine though. The odds of somebody getting 7 correct scores though is astronomical. It's like SkyBet's SuperSix which hardly anybody ever wins, but with one more haha.

I suggested that one previously for the world cup competition but they had complicated scoring for that one. I actually used it last season for Premier League and they are quite ok. They will even remind you over Email to enter predictions. I believe they are running it for a lot of different competitions.

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 30, 2018, 04:32:39 AM

How about this one?
https://www.superbru.com/premierleague_predictor

Scoring system is ALMOST similar. 3 points for exact score. 1 point for correct outcome. 1.5 points for "close"... correct outcome plus 1 goal off or correct goal difference, same style as FIFA World Cup predictor.

There's also 15 "default picks" that will enter the most popular score if you forget/miss games, so that's good for everyone who inevitably will miss a few games throughout the season.

There's also additional prizes for getting exact scores in 7 games or more in a given round: https://www.superbru.com/premierleague_predictor/prize_jackpot.php

Is that the one that somebody suggested previously? I'd like to check out a couple predictors to see what the best one is before we commit. I'd like something as close as possible to the BBC one we used, but more importantly it needs to be reliable. That scoring system seems fine though. The odds of somebody getting 7 correct scores though is astronomical. It's like SkyBet's SuperSix which hardly anybody ever wins, but with one more haha.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on July 30, 2018, 04:23:41 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 29, 2018, 05:14:40 AM

Bump.

We need the pot to get to 1k GBP before the season starts quick! Tho I don't think I'll be doing that well as seen in the last two betting pools. But I'm happy to donate some coins to play and have some fun. GL everyone.

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I think getting twelve new players before the start of the season on the tenth will be a stretch. Keep spreading the word though. £25 is a steal for an entire season of entertainment and the pot is pretty decent so far. The pool makes the tournament more exciting at least as you have an interest in every game, even the shitters. Still looking for a website to use if anyone can suggest some seeing as the BBC one won't be available.

How about this one?
https://www.superbru.com/premierleague_predictor

Scoring system is ALMOST similar. 3 points for exact score. 1 point for correct outcome. 1.5 points for "close"... correct outcome plus 1 goal off or correct goal difference, same style as FIFA World Cup predictor.

There's also 15 "default picks" that will enter the most popular score if you forget/miss games, so that's good for everyone who inevitably will miss a few games throughout the season.

There's also additional prizes for getting exact scores in 7 games or more in a given round: https://www.superbru.com/premierleague_predictor/prize_jackpot.php

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 29, 2018, 05:14:40 AM

Bump.

We need the pot to get to 1k GBP before the season starts quick! Tho I don't think I'll be doing that well as seen in the last two betting pools. But I'm happy to donate some coins to play and have some fun. GL everyone.

*Anti jinx post on* Grin

I think getting twelve new players before the start of the season on the tenth will be a stretch. Keep spreading the word though. £25 is a steal for an entire season of entertainment and the pot is pretty decent so far. The pool makes the tournament more exciting at least as you have an interest in every game, even the shitters. Still looking for a website to use if anyone can suggest some seeing as the BBC one won't be available.

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Bump.

We need the pot to get to 1k GBP before the season starts quick! Tho I don't think I'll be doing that well as seen in the last two betting pools. But I'm happy to donate some coins to play and have some fun. GL everyone.

*Anti jinx post on* Grin

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Added to op. Pot is now at £700.

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