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Quote from: un_rank on April 17, 2024, 07:52:52 AM

The players were just being petulant. Chelsea did not had a first choice taker early this season cause no one has shown real quality and reliability from 12 yards. Fast forward to now, it is obvious who the penalty taker is and everyone has slotted into place. There may have been a decision already reached in the dressing room, we do not know for sure but can assume there has been.

Jackson/Noni were being petulant, just as Mbappe/Neymar and Neymar/Cavanni before that.

No bold statement was made until the last incident, he laughed over the Sterling - Palmer incident like nothing happened.

Noticed everything happened under Poch - tells you much about his dressing room and team management skills. He's just too nice to be a good manager. Bold of Jackson not to celebrate with his teammates - never seen anyone so childish at his age in my life.

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 16, 2024, 05:34:18 PM

Blame it on Poch; he had more than two months to make a big statement and inform the players who his first choice penalty taker was following the Palmer vs Stealing incident, but he didn't.

The players were just being petulant. Chelsea did not had a first choice taker early this season cause no one has shown real quality and reliability from 12 yards. Fast forward to now, it is obvious who the penalty taker is and everyone has slotted into place. There may have been a decision already reached in the dressing room, we do not know for sure but can assume there has been.

Jackson/Noni were being petulant, just as Mbappe/Neymar and Neymar/Cavanni before that.

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Quote from: un_rank on April 16, 2024, 12:23:46 PM

Quote from: Trofo on April 16, 2024, 12:48:18 AM

Without checking I am quite sure nobody got more than a point in Chelsea game Grin

With their erratic form, no one expected them to win so easily, much less by 6 goals and to keep a clean sheet too. Only stain on a near perfect performance was the disgraceful display from Jackson and Madueke. School boy stuffs they way they handled that, Jackson refusing to celebrate with Palmer after the penalty gave an idea of how that dressing room will be.

Blame it on Poch; he had more than two months to make a big statement and inform the players who his first choice penalty taker was following the Palmer vs Stealing incident, but he didn't. Too afraid to speak up against a senior player, he faced the same penalty problem at PSG. Mbappe and Neymar used to quarrel over penalties.

As a coach, you make decisions about penalty takers and captains before the season begins, not in the middle.

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Quote from: Trofo on April 16, 2024, 12:48:18 AM

Without checking I am quite sure nobody got more than a point in Chelsea game Grin

With their erratic form, no one expected them to win so easily, much less by 6 goals and to keep a clean sheet too. Only stain on a near perfect performance was the disgraceful display from Jackson and Madueke. School boy stuffs they way they handled that, Jackson refusing to celebrate with Palmer after the penalty gave an idea of how that dressing room will be.

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Seems like my physical preparation for this season made by me coach was a mess. My team is running out of gas just in the most important part of the season.

I try to give some Vitamins (anabolics) to the guys to see if we can recover.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 15, 2024, 02:30:30 PM

Everton, always there to cheer me up after Liverpool have a bad result. They always manage to go one better and be even worse. Currently 2-0 down to Chelsea, Cole Palmer is looking like a great young player.

Really hope Everton finally go down, Forest and Luton are even worse though.

I've been hoping Eveton would be relegated for several years, but they keep winning the relegation battle and have managed to stay up. Their squad and management are, at best, championship-level. Their fans may never agree, but if Everton is relegated, I believe they will become another Portsmouth.

Arsenal and Liverpool fans getting humbled in less than 24hr. Title run una Grin

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Without checking I am quite sure nobody got more than a point in Chelsea game Grin

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Everton, always there to cheer me up after Liverpool have a bad result. They always manage to go one better and be even worse. Currently 2-0 down to Chelsea, Cole Palmer is looking like a great young player.

Really hope Everton finally go down, Forest and Luton are even worse though.

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Quote from: darbitmobilerecovery on April 15, 2024, 01:28:13 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 15, 2024, 01:14:14 PM

A lot of shock results over the weekend. Nobody picked Palace to beat Liverpool and only one person backed Villa over Arsenal. Are Chelsea going to follow suit with a loss tonight? Grin

I doubt many people will go for a home loss but I'm thinking twice about it now.

Quote from: arallmuus on April 14, 2024, 03:53:56 PM

So Arsenal and Liverpool decided to hand over the trophy to Manchester City today by losing huh. Im tired of watching them win, someone gotta stop their domination. Pep going to have a chance on Treble all over again.

They're still in it as both Arsenal and Liverpool are only 2 points behind, though City do have the easiest fixtures. At least it can still be a close title race.

Yes, just imagine betting on all the underdogs yesterday, you can make a fortune.

Aston Villa x10 Crsytal Palace odss x11, incredible, and also incredible how and why Aston Villa has 10 odds being a super competitive team and Crsital Palace being a weak one has only 1x more. I dont know what the bookies see.

They see nothing and they just want to deceive the players as much as they can,in fact if you check the odds of many soccer events as soccer is the sport we have the better information compared to other sports you will eventually spot that the bookies are most of the time messing with the players by not giving them real odds,for example a team that should had the odd of 1.5-1.55 like in the case of Arsenal yesterday night they only had like 1.22-1.28 odd in different bookmakers,I judge this exactly like you,the form of Aston Villa is great and you cannot give Arsenal the range of 1.20 odds,also in the standings if you see,you will spot the form,yesterday Aston Villa just confirmed that.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on April 15, 2024, 01:14:14 PM

A lot of shock results over the weekend. Nobody picked Palace to beat Liverpool and only one person backed Villa over Arsenal. Are Chelsea going to follow suit with a loss tonight? Grin

I doubt many people will go for a home loss but I'm thinking twice about it now.

Quote from: arallmuus on April 14, 2024, 03:53:56 PM

So Arsenal and Liverpool decided to hand over the trophy to Manchester City today by losing huh. Im tired of watching them win, someone gotta stop their domination. Pep going to have a chance on Treble all over again.

They're still in it as both Arsenal and Liverpool are only 2 points behind, though City do have the easiest fixtures. At least it can still be a close title race.

Yes, just imagine betting on all the underdogs yesterday, you can make a fortune.

Aston Villa x10 Crsytal Palace odss x11, incredible, and also incredible how and why Aston Villa has 10 odds being a super competitive team and Crsital Palace being a weak one has only 1x more. I dont know what the bookies see.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on April 15, 2024, 01:14:14 PM

A lot of shock results over the weekend. Nobody picked Palace to beat Liverpool and only one person backed Villa over Arsenal. Are Chelsea going to follow suit with a loss tonight? Grin

I doubt many people will go for a home loss but I'm thinking twice about it now.

Quote from: arallmuus on April 14, 2024, 03:53:56 PM

So Arsenal and Liverpool decided to hand over the trophy to Manchester City today by losing huh. Im tired of watching them win, someone gotta stop their domination. Pep going to have a chance on Treble all over again.

They're still in it as both Arsenal and Liverpool are only 2 points behind, though City do have the easiest fixtures. At least it can still be a close title race.

I guess that makes two, speaking of second guessing the decision I made already, It likely would have been a different ball game were it been the beginning of the season, or even midway in, but now every single point seem to matter twice as much as they used to, it's an easier decision to drop point along with a contender going for the easier call, than choosing to follow one's guts at the risk of dropping further down the pecking order, tough times, truly!

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A lot of shock results over the weekend. Nobody picked Palace to beat Liverpool and only one person backed Villa over Arsenal. Are Chelsea going to follow suit with a loss tonight? Grin

I doubt many people will go for a home loss but I'm thinking twice about it now.

Quote from: arallmuus on April 14, 2024, 03:53:56 PM

So Arsenal and Liverpool decided to hand over the trophy to Manchester City today by losing huh. Im tired of watching them win, someone gotta stop their domination. Pep going to have a chance on Treble all over again.

They're still in it as both Arsenal and Liverpool are only 2 points behind, though City do have the easiest fixtures. At least it can still be a close title race.

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So Arsenal and Liverpool decided to hand over the trophy to Manchester City today by losing huh. Im tired of watching them win, someone gotta stop their domination. Pep going to have a chance on Treble all over again. Whats really shocking was Liverpool losing twice in Anfield, thats shocking. Arsenal is Arsenal, cant really expect them to win because whenever you do so they will ended up breaking your expectation all over

Quote from: Joca97 on April 14, 2024, 02:40:48 PM

Liverpool with this loss is probobly dropping the title.

Unless you could count Spurs and West Ham to stop City, I kinda thing that its City's trophy again this season

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Quote from: swogerino on April 14, 2024, 01:36:39 PM

So did anyone got any point/s from today games,I highly doubt it well except the game of West Ham which could have been either team game while for the two big teams that surprised everyone I doubt anyone got against them in the pool here and also in the betting from what I saw from copying other people bets at the casino where I play,about 20-25 tickets lost because of Liverpool and Arsenal,from money lines bets to both teams to score and to over 2.5 goals which for tonight games neither of them did came through suggesting a really huge surprise in the results of today in the Premier League games.

Liverpool and Arsenal (especially Liverpool) have destroyed a huge number of "safe" bettors and multi-bettors today. It was impossible to predict such results. Before the City - Aston Villa game, I wrote that Aston Villa was undervalued and the odds were unfair (as in today's game with Arsenal), but I'm sure many believed the bookmakers and bet on Arsenal. As for Liverpool, I saw that the Liverpool double chance quote was 1.04. Imagine that someone made such a bet or added this outcome to a multi-bet?

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Quote from: cryptofrka on April 14, 2024, 11:26:50 AM

Only good old mighty Liverpool can fuck up an almost perfect season in a week like this. We haven't lost at Anfield in, what, 14 months or so? And then we lose twice in a row without scoring a goal.

2.60 xG against Atalanta, 2.87 xG against Palace today. 0 goals in total.
3.67 xG against United a week before, 0.7 against - enough only for a 2-2 draw.

Hurts to say, but in key moments of the season we simply aren't on the needed level. We're still alive in the league, but City's got easy games coming. I have a feeling they will put it in the highest gear now and cruise to the title.

Liverpool with this loss is probobly dropping the title. I think no one expected that they would lose this game against Crystal Palace. They didnt score any goals in two games and that is shocking. Those stats that you said are pretty insane,because they werent able to score and this might cause Liverpool to lose the europe title and premier league title. Well there is a saying: everyone plays good football and wins some games but Man City wins titles. I think Man City in the end will win it easily. 0 points for me today and that is just disgusting.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 14, 2024, 01:36:39 PM

So did anyone got any point/s from today games,I highly doubt it well except the game of West Ham which could have been either team game while for the two big teams that surprised everyone I doubt anyone got against them in the pool here and also in the betting from what I saw from copying other people bets at the casino where I play,about 20-25 tickets lost because of Liverpool and Arsenal,from money lines bets to both teams to score and to over 2.5 goals which for tonight games neither of them did came through suggesting a really huge surprise in the results of today in the Premier League games.

0 points for me so far today from all 3 pools, except Bundesliga. If Saturday was such profitable for me, today lost almost all my bets. I see that Ulven got point from backing Aston Villa and few guys from Fullham - West Ham draw..
Damn, what a way to award title when both your opponents slips unexpectedly on the same day. Ok, not title yet, but now everything in City hands already.

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All round terrible second half from Arsenal. I expected we will be the one going into the second leg of the UCL tie on the front foot as Bayern have mathematically lost the league, but it looks to be the opposite. Got to pick ourselves up from the ground now.

Quote from: buwaytress on April 14, 2024, 10:44:59 AM

Armour, what armour? It was the chinks in their turrets that were the problem haha. Needing last-minute winners (more this season than ever before), needing goals from outside the box (more this season since Steven Gerrard era), needing comebacks (more this season than ever before).

Still just two points adrift still. Only major issue is that it is City who have the initiative now and I will say the easier run of fixtures. They are ruthless in this stage.

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So did anyone got any point/s from today games,I highly doubt it well except the game of West Ham which could have been either team game while for the two big teams that surprised everyone I doubt anyone got against them in the pool here and also in the betting from what I saw from copying other people bets at the casino where I play,about 20-25 tickets lost because of Liverpool and Arsenal,from money lines bets to both teams to score and to over 2.5 goals which for tonight games neither of them did came through suggesting a really huge surprise in the results of today in the Premier League games.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on April 14, 2024, 11:26:50 AM

Only good old mighty Liverpool can fuck up an almost perfect season in a week like this. We haven't lost at Anfield in, what, 14 months or so? And then we lose twice in a row without scoring a goal.

2.60 xG against Atalanta, 2.87 xG against Palace today. 0 goals in total.
3.67 xG against United a week before, 0.7 against - enough only for a 2-2 draw.

Hurts to say, but in key moments of the season we simply aren't on the needed level. We're still alive in the league, but City's got easy games coming. I have a feeling they will put it in the highest gear now and cruise to the title.

If Arsenal win today, Liverpool's chances of winning the title will drop below 10%. A real disaster, considering that before the game with United, Liverpool were the favorites ahead of both Arsenal and City.
As for expected goals, Crystal Palace's 2.13 today, although it should feel no less than Liverpool's. Therefore, I cannot say that Liverpool was simply unlucky today.

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