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Quote from: SATWAT on January 23, 2024, 04:11:56 PM

Quote from: slaman29 on January 23, 2024, 05:51:17 AM

Well done vd309! It's beginning to look worse and worse for me in this pool. ON first glance it's only 6.5 points to 10th place, so you think wow that's not far. But from 20 points a few weeks ago now the gap to Position 1 is 27.5 points. That means I'm getting further away every game week.

I hate teams like Brighton and Wolves. Both missing some good Asian players, but you think that evens it out and they score a lot anyway. Flip a coin with these people Wink

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 21, 2024, 02:50:05 PM

Just to write who's missing: Trent, Robbo, Tsimikas, Matip, Szoboszlai, Endo, Thiago, Salah. That's 5 first team players.

I forgot about Thiago!! What the hell happened to him, injury for such a long time, I almost thought he and Arthur Melo already left Liverpool long ago last season. Speaking of great players people forgot about lol

I completely forget about pool in this round due to holidays and now my spot is more down first time I am now having below than 40th rank which is worse now time to keep eye on this and have some better results in coming weeks before It's too late.

Brighton vs Wolves break many hearts as I check with few friends mostly were thinking to have over 2.5 and both teams to score, but sadly this match ended in a boring draw which is surely worst from these both teams as both are suffering due to few players which are on national duty right now.

I also had like 3 or 4 default picks before remembering to put my other picks.I think there is still time in the pool and also prize spots are still quite achievable for most of us as not many points divide a good chunk of us here so there are still 17 weeks to play and a good over 400 points to play for so anything can happen.I know most people will go for the route of upset results in these remaining weeks which can reward them big time if the upset results happen in order to try to have a go at the prize spots.

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Liverpool Chelsea final in Carabou, booooringggggg! Middlesbrough vs Fulham is much better jk Wink

Willian seems to be getting very good with Fulham in late career, he would love to go head to head with his old club. And if Liverpool stick with second string, I think Fulham have a big chance of upset

Quote from: SATWAT on January 23, 2024, 04:11:56 PM

I completely forget about pool in this round due to holidays and now my spot is more down first time I am now having below than 40th rank which is worse now time to keep eye on this and have some better results in coming weeks before It's too late.

Brighton vs Wolves break many hearts as I check with few friends mostly were thinking to have over 2.5 and both teams to score, but sadly this match ended in a boring draw which is surely worst from these both teams as both are suffering due to few players which are on national duty right now.

Welcome to EPL pool. Same with Champions League pool. We have easy 50 players so most of us will enjoy the time below 40 rank, I'm so used to it I'm surprised if I get into top 10 lol

Brighton is very frustrating, early seasons make you think they can go for Top 4 then they play like shit. Wolves opposite. You think they'll relegate but they win big games and then you bet on them then they also play like shit.

Quote from: Igebotz on January 24, 2024, 05:43:18 AM

Imagine twerking for Salah with zero Egypt legacy. A complete traitor.

Salah? He doesn't have 10 goals he has like 15 already?

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Quote from: buwaytress on January 24, 2024, 04:24:49 AM

Damn Igebotz, if we win passage tonight, we get to do Chelsea all over again. It's not Prem League but it's probably worth a bit more to some people in blue/red. Palmer performed as I thought, he's going to be a monster in EPL.

That's our 18th domestic final since 2000, which is an incredible statistic. We've won 13 of them, but I'm not expecting much from this one. If Liverpool advances to the final, we'll have Anthony Taylor for real. There's no great surprise here.

Palmer is the signing of the season and he's not at his peak yet. We got ourself a monster.

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BTW, just to tease haters: who's Europe leading goals+assists player this season? Also is just a tiny bit behind Haaland and Kane in goals+assists per 90 mins.

Imagine twerking for Salah with zero Egypt legacy. A complete traitor.

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Damn Igebotz, if we win passage tonight, we get to do Chelsea all over again. It's not Prem League but it's probably worth a bit more to some people in blue/red. Palmer performed as I thought, he's going to be a monster in EPL.

BTW, just to tease haters: who's Europe leading goals+assists player this season? Also is just a tiny bit behind Haaland and Kane in goals+assists per 90 mins.

Slightly OT: Liverpool fans: do you remember the Ig! Cult favourite at Anfield, so typical of Houllier's team at the time and part of the unfancied UCL winning team years later.

Cro2 of course probably knew Biscan was in Saudi already but I had no idea until I saw a headline of Al Shabab wanting Mou to replace him. I need to start looking at manager rosters to see some familiar names, huh?

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Quote from: slaman29 on January 23, 2024, 05:51:17 AM

Well done vd309! It's beginning to look worse and worse for me in this pool. ON first glance it's only 6.5 points to 10th place, so you think wow that's not far. But from 20 points a few weeks ago now the gap to Position 1 is 27.5 points. That means I'm getting further away every game week.

I hate teams like Brighton and Wolves. Both missing some good Asian players, but you think that evens it out and they score a lot anyway. Flip a coin with these people Wink

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 21, 2024, 02:50:05 PM

Just to write who's missing: Trent, Robbo, Tsimikas, Matip, Szoboszlai, Endo, Thiago, Salah. That's 5 first team players.

I forgot about Thiago!! What the hell happened to him, injury for such a long time, I almost thought he and Arthur Melo already left Liverpool long ago last season. Speaking of great players people forgot about lol

I completely forget about pool in this round due to holidays and now my spot is more down first time I am now having below than 40th rank which is worse now time to keep eye on this and have some better results in coming weeks before It's too late.

Brighton vs Wolves break many hearts as I check with few friends mostly were thinking to have over 2.5 and both teams to score, but sadly this match ended in a boring draw which is surely worst from these both teams as both are suffering due to few players which are on national duty right now.

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Well done vd309! It's beginning to look worse and worse for me in this pool. ON first glance it's only 6.5 points to 10th place, so you think wow that's not far. But from 20 points a few weeks ago now the gap to Position 1 is 27.5 points. That means I'm getting further away every game week.

I hate teams like Brighton and Wolves. Both missing some good Asian players, but you think that evens it out and they score a lot anyway. Flip a coin with these people Wink

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 21, 2024, 02:50:05 PM

Just to write who's missing: Trent, Robbo, Tsimikas, Matip, Szoboszlai, Endo, Thiago, Salah. That's 5 first team players.

I forgot about Thiago!! What the hell happened to him, injury for such a long time, I almost thought he and Arthur Melo already left Liverpool long ago last season. Speaking of great players people forgot about lol

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 21, 2024, 02:50:05 PM

Just to write who's missing: Trent, Robbo, Tsimikas, Matip, Szoboszlai, Endo, Thiago, Salah. That's 5 first team players.

Robertson in particular will be a big addition to the side. He has been missing for a very long time, laving a huge gap in the left hand side 9which Gomez has filled decently, I must add). I am not certain Thiago makes it into the current Liverpool midfield, especially if Szobozslai returns, but that is a good headache for any manager to have.

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Quote from: tokeweed on January 22, 2024, 07:07:55 AM

But irl it's all about what you can get away with, not what you deserve... And it's fcked up.

Well we live in a world where money can buy everything so its expected that City keep getting away from all these allegations. There are alot at stakes for them, basically their own branding of their club would be ruined forever if they are charged

Quote from: Igebotz on January 20, 2024, 02:18:13 PM

Pep is not a bad coach. I'm only telling you that his managerial career has been easy; he started from the top, whereas others started from the bottom and grew to the top. They are not the same.

I've been saying this like couple of times as well. Compared to the other coach's career, Pep has it way easier starting from Barcelona then Bayern Munich and now Manchester City. He is a good coach but Im not convinced if he is going to be able to handle those 2nd tier team and bring them to top 4 or something

Quote from: Igebotz on January 20, 2024, 02:18:13 PM

Those clubs do not engage in illicit transfers to retain their managers, which is why they do not face 115 charges. Manchester City told you that they bought Halaand for less than €60m, and you believed. Lol

Lol I remember this when it was announced that Halaand was only that much, I was shocked and now something fishy is being cooked on this deal

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Quote from: buwaytress on January 20, 2024, 12:09:05 PM

Quick answer as to why others got penalised and City didn't: others admitted and accepted wrongdoing, City has denied each and every one of those 100+ allegations.

It's more like they have an army of the best lawyers money could buy and again... Their loop hole is air tight. They did their homework before they did their shenanigans. From the legal aspect of it all to the accounting and financial aspect. And from their own eyes, it's just business. Have a rule book that's gonna be exploited like that then it's def gonna be exploited.

Now I won't say that Man City doesn't deserve punishment because what they did should def be frown upon. But irl it's all about what you can get away with, not what you deserve... And it's fcked up.

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A statement win against a team in decent form. We did not play as good as the result is saying, but I think all LFC fans will be extremely satisfied today.
Just to write who's missing: Trent, Robbo, Tsimikas, Matip, Szoboszlai, Endo, Thiago, Salah. That's 5 first team players.

Now we have 2 Cup games, followed by Chelsea and Arsenal. I hope some of the above mentioned return/recover.

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^^I've said it a few times, of our new crop of forwards, Jota's my favourite (he's not exactly new but he's now at the stage where Mane and Firmino were after getting straightened out by Klopp. Nunez is where we differ. He's not my favourite but I like him in the mix, and he'll also, if he pays attention and works hard, fit into the Klopp system. Once Salah goes, we'll need a new trident anyway. If Nunez doesn't keep scoring as he should but continues his involvements, it's what I want.

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 20, 2024, 01:42:42 PM

Darwin Nunez leads your attack, but... Toney is not good enough for a top team like Liverpool. A player who is better than Darwin Nunez in every offensive area of the game? I knew Liverpool fans were not ready for this discussion. This is the same team that hired Benteke and A. Carrol as top attackers.

Never argue with a Liverpool fans about player's quality.

Not really fair to be saying that, is it?
I was furious in all 3 instances and have said multiple times that all 3 players are utter shit.

The fact that Nunez is leading the attack does not mean that somebody better is the solution. I think Toney is better than Nunez, but I hate Nunez so much that I think that Chris Wood is a better player. Would I want him to be leading Liverpool's attack? Of course not.

There are a lot of bad players in current Liverpool's first 11, with Nunez and Konate leading the pack. Diaz hasn't done much to warrant a starting role as well, and I still have reservations about MacAllister in a deeper role.

Overall, we're a fantastic team - but also a team that can be improved. You improve a great team by bringing players that are either perfectly adept to play in that team or players of extreme individual quality. I will say it again, I really like Toney - but he's neither of these 2 things.

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Quote from: un_rank on January 20, 2024, 02:27:01 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on January 20, 2024, 02:18:13 PM

Pep is not a bad coach. I'm only telling you that his managerial career has been easy; he started from the top, whereas others started from the bottom and grew to the top. They are not the same.

Pep is a great coach, the best currently and arguably the best of all time. His talent was obvious from the get go, reason why he started from the top.

In those days it was Bacelona tradition to only replace first team coach with the Bacelona B team coach and when Frank Rijkaard was sacked Pep was promoted from Team B coach to the senior team, a coach without CV and it worked out well for him.

If it was today's Bacelona they would've gone for a top coach not Pep.

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Pep was out of contract with Barcelona when the Neymar deal was completed.

If you think he didn't play a part in that illegal deal then you're wrong.

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 20, 2024, 02:18:13 PM

Pep is not a bad coach. I'm only telling you that his managerial career has been easy; he started from the top, whereas others started from the bottom and grew to the top. They are not the same.

Pep is a great coach, the best currently and arguably the best of all time. His talent was obvious from the get go, reason why he started from the top.

Staying at the top and keeping those top clubs at the level they are at or even improving it takes a great coach to do. So many other coaches have coached top clubs and failed. No other coach has been as consistent as he has been this last decade, closest would have been Zidane, but he has been on the sidelines for too long.

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Remember the Neymar fake deal also? Pep knows how to get illegal deals done. Grin

Pep was out of contract with Barcelona when the Neymar deal was completed.

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Only coaches who take on difficult jobs get sacked as some point. It's part of the game and not every sack was as a result of poor performance. Tuchel case for example.

When other coaches take up clubs like Barcelona and Madrid, they are difficult jobs, but when Pep goes to Barcelona, Bayern or City, it becomes a walk in the park. That in itself shows how good he is.

And in reality all jobs are difficult, which is why all clubs sack players. And money is not simple fix to a club, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man. Utd all have huge budgets but do not have close to the result that City has had in the last 6 years. Having a lot of money to spend is just one part of achieving success.

Pep is not a bad coach. I'm only telling you that his managerial career has been easy; he started from the top, whereas others started from the bottom and grew to the top. They are not the same.

Those clubs do not engage in illicit transfers to retain their managers, which is why they do not face 115 charges. Manchester City told you that they bought Halaand for less than €60m, and you believed. Lol

Remember the Neymar fake deal also? Pep knows how to get illegal deals done. Grin

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 20, 2024, 01:42:42 PM

Only coaches who take on difficult jobs get sacked as some point. It's part of the game and not every sack was as a result of poor performance. Tuchel case for example.

When other coaches take up clubs like Barcelona and Madrid, they are difficult jobs, but when Pep goes to Barcelona, Bayern or City, it becomes a walk in the park. That in itself shows how good he is.

And in reality all jobs are difficult, which is why all clubs sack players. And money is not simple fix to a club, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man. Utd all have huge budgets but do not have close to the result that City has had in the last 6 years. Having a lot of money to spend is just one part of achieving success.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 20, 2024, 01:17:54 PM

So, Toney returns with a goal. Brentford looks way better with him in the team, he'll be enough to keep them up in the Prem.

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He's what Liverpool is lacking but the fans are not ready for this conversation yet.

I do rate the guy, but I feel his level is enough for a team fighting for Europa League, not for the top prizes. I hope he stays with Brentford, although I could see WH, Spurs, Wolves etc having a strong interest.

Darwin Nunez leads your attack, but... Toney is not good enough for a top team like Liverpool. A player who is better than Darwin Nunez in every offensive area of the game? I knew Liverpool fans were not ready for this discussion. This is the same team that hired Benteke and A. Carrol as top attackers.

Never argue with a Liverpool fans about player's quality.

Quote from: un_rank on January 20, 2024, 01:26:20 PM

Ancelotti took a major dip in form before taking up the Everton job. He was sacked by Madrid in 2015, took him a year to get his next job in Bayern and was sacked in 2017, he took up the Napoli job a year later and was sacked within one year.

He was sacked three times on the spin before he took the Everton job, I do not know what else is a dip in form besides that. Top coaches do not take up charity cases, they coach top clubs, till their tactics stop working and they find it difficult to get other top jobs.

Only coaches who take on difficult jobs get sacked as some point. It's part of the game and not every sack was as a result of poor performance. Tuchel case for example.

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It is also an agenda when you say, pep cannot last on a low budget when you have not seen him in that situation.

Because no low-budget team would give him £500m+ to build a new team, as he always does before winning. When you work with a low-budget club, you must work with whichever players they can afford; you have no other choices.

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 20, 2024, 11:58:26 AM

This is not an agenda; it is what Pep does. Ancelloti was not dip in form when he accepted the Eveton job. Top coaches will occasionally take on difficult tasks to show their ability to succeed with a low-budget team. Pep only works with formidable teams; he cannot last long at a low-budget club.

Ancelotti took a major dip in form before taking up the Everton job. He was sacked by Madrid in 2015, took him a year to get his next job in Bayern and was sacked in 2017, he took up the Napoli job a year later and was sacked within one year.

He was sacked three times on the spin before he took the Everton job, I do not know what else is a dip in form besides that. Top coaches do not take up charity cases, they coach top clubs, till their tactics stop working and they find it difficult to get other top jobs.

It is an agenda when you say, Pep cannot last on a low budget when you have not seen him in that situation.

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So, Toney returns with a goal. Brentford looks way better with him in the team, he'll be enough to keep them up in the Prem.

Quote from: Igebotz on January 20, 2024, 12:22:11 PM

He's what Liverpool is lacking but the fans are not ready for this conversation yet.

I do rate the guy, but I feel his level is enough for a team fighting for Europa League, not for the top prizes. I hope he stays with Brentford, although I could see WH, Spurs, Wolves etc having a strong interest.

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