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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 23, 2023, 12:03:32 PM

I’m glad the international break is over, not looking forward to Man City being our opponent though. I would shake hands on a draw and be very happy if you offered it me right now.

I hate playing Man City away, we have a terrible record there. No wins in the league since 2015, maybe it can change Saturday.

Am going with the Reds on this one.
Just hope I am not wrong about my prediction I decided on earlier in the week for them to go against the grain and put the City boys in their place atleast once late during this season.
Might even put a pound or two for them scoring over 4 goals on them in the victory.

Remember they are without Haaland as he injured himself during a friendly from what I remember while checking the team stats right before I made my predictions for this week.

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I’m glad the international break is over, not looking forward to Man City being our opponent though. I would shake hands on a draw and be very happy if you offered it me right now.

I hate playing Man City away, we have a terrible record there. No wins in the league since 2015, maybe it can change Saturday.

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Quote from: darbitmobilerecovery on November 18, 2023, 06:19:00 PM

I think exactly the same is a really bad show mounted by the FFP, and Everton is punished and used to show some justice, they are not gonna do anything against City, Chelsea or any other team just because taht can hurt so much his own pocket (by losing one of the atractive teams and contenders= less people sitting watching the games) or the pocket of someone very powerfull.

With this im not saying Everton hasnt broke some rules, but come on..... its a very bad joke.

Finance in football we all know are the most flawed shit in the world. All the clubs are broke but always buying big players and making fancy reforms in the stadiums.... You just only need some good contacts and good accountants.

Everton committed a financial mistake while knowing what they were going into, and they are now paying the price. Going 19.5m over the FFP was a rookie mistake, and there was no way they were getting out of it. City and Chelsea has yet to be proven guilty, and all claims against them must be substantiated before punishment can be imposed.

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Quote from: darbitmobilerecovery on November 18, 2023, 06:19:00 PM

I think exactly the same is a really bad show mounted by the FFP, and Everton is punished and used to show some justice, they are not gonna do anything against City, Chelsea or any other team just because taht can hurt so much his own pocket (by losing one of the atractive teams and contenders= less people sitting watching the games) or the pocket of someone very powerfull.

Points deduction from the top teams will not reduce those who watch games nor will it affect the competitiveness of the league. If the FA chooses to not act if City are found guilty of the charges of if they muddy the case so much that there is no definite outcome they will be doing to benefit their pockets and not the standard of football in the league.

I do not really care much and will not even want another team to win the league only by ducking points of City, it will put a huge dent on the achievements of the would be champions.

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 22, 2023, 06:27:34 AM

Quote from: Trofo on November 18, 2023, 02:18:32 PM

If you ask me I believe half of the clubs in every big league is guilty and could be charged with something with exception of Bundesliga maybe. Seems like Germans learned their lesson and now have the league and clubs on healthy foundations.

For sure. Big, small, all guilty, the bigger and closer to top, the more guilty.

But don't be too sure about Bundesliga. I agree they have best system, but they have their own problems. They also have no salary cap now, and it is the club management that can be controlled, great but it's npt a guarantee of good management.

Barca for example is very good democratic club ownership but... it still allowed huge financial scandals.

The FA can be found guilty of many many things but why should we care as it doesn't concern us,we love football and they have the best league on the world where everybody agrees they have the most beautiful football played.

They can have their problems and I am not going to think that just because these people aren't the most honest and with integrity persons to not watch this league,I will always watch this league whatever happens,for those problems there are the law enforcement agencies that have to deal with them.

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Quote from: Trofo on November 18, 2023, 02:18:32 PM

If you ask me I believe half of the clubs in every big league is guilty and could be charged with something with exception of Bundesliga maybe. Seems like Germans learned their lesson and now have the league and clubs on healthy foundations.

For sure. Big, small, all guilty, the bigger and closer to top, the more guilty.

But don't be too sure about Bundesliga. I agree they have best system, but they have their own problems. They also have no salary cap now, and it is the club management that can be controlled, great but it's npt a guarantee of good management.

Barca for example is very good democratic club ownership but... it still allowed huge financial scandals.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 18, 2023, 03:18:35 PM

Quote from: Trofo on November 18, 2023, 02:18:32 PM

FFP is a joke and every case just confirms it. No way Chelsea, City, Barca and PSG did not break FFP and nobody is touching them because they are big and have good lawyers. But you have to punish some smaller club here in there just to justify the existence and pay checks.

If you ask me I believe half of the clubs in every big league is guilty and could be charged with something with exception of Bundesliga maybe. Seems like Germans learned their lesson and now have the league and clubs on healthy foundations.

Sure it is, but if you fine Everton with (realistically) a huge points deduction for a minor offence, you're really asking for trouble if you don't fine City as well.
I know nothing will happen to City - I'm too old to believe in justice and fairytales. But I wonder what will they say and how will they explain when City gets another slap on the wrist.

Not that it matters anyway - we'll beat them fair and square this season.

I think exactly the same is a really bad show mounted by the FFP, and Everton is punished and used to show some justice, they are not gonna do anything against City, Chelsea or any other team just because taht can hurt so much his own pocket (by losing one of the atractive teams and contenders= less people sitting watching the games) or the pocket of someone very powerfull.

With this im not saying Everton hasnt broke some rules, but come on..... its a very bad joke.

Finance in football we all know are the most flawed shit in the world. All the clubs are broke but always buying big players and making fancy reforms in the stadiums.... You just only need some good contacts and good accountants.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 18, 2023, 03:18:35 PM

Sure it is, but if you fine Everton with (realistically) a huge points deduction for a minor offence, you're really asking for trouble if you don't fine City as well.
I know nothing will happen to City - I'm too old to believe in justice and fairytales. But I wonder what will they say and how will they explain when City gets another slap on the wrist.

Not that it matters anyway - we'll beat them fair and square this season.

And what will Liverpool get for breaking into another club's scouting databases? Isn't it true that they were found guilty? Everyone's hands are stained with blood, which is why no club is pointing fingers at the moment.

Dealing with City is like dealing with the entire Arab Emirates; they have the resources to drag the issue through court for years until everyone gets tired of it.

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Quote from: Trofo on November 18, 2023, 02:18:32 PM

FFP is a joke and every case just confirms it. No way Chelsea, City, Barca and PSG did not break FFP and nobody is touching them because they are big and have good lawyers. But you have to punish some smaller club here in there just to justify the existence and pay checks.

If you ask me I believe half of the clubs in every big league is guilty and could be charged with something with exception of Bundesliga maybe. Seems like Germans learned their lesson and now have the league and clubs on healthy foundations.

Sure it is, but if you fine Everton with (realistically) a huge points deduction for a minor offence, you're really asking for trouble if you don't fine City as well.
I know nothing will happen to City - I'm too old to believe in justice and fairytales. But I wonder what will they say and how will they explain when City gets another slap on the wrist.

Not that it matters anyway - we'll beat them fair and square this season.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 18, 2023, 05:42:55 AM

Huge penalty for Everton, but there's actually a golden line for them here - it came in a season in which they actually have a chance to survive even with the deduction. Also - Everton will challenge the decision and the penalty will probably be lowered.

I'm really interested to see what happens with City now - and what will happen with Chelsea down the line.
City has been charged with 115 breaches earlier this season.

Everton should definitely challenge the decision especially in a season like this where uncertainty of them remaining in the Premier League is big even without the penalty.As for City we know that the FA in England does not take that much of a dramatic ruling against them,I don't know why but most likely because the sheikh owning the team knows who to please in order to go unpunished Grin

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Every team who breaches a rule should be punished in my opinion but most likely we will see a different behavior for each team of the FA regarding different teams,that is how it works not only in England but everywhere.

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Quote from: Trofo on November 18, 2023, 02:18:32 PM

FFP is a joke and every case just confirms it. No way Chelsea, City, Barca and PSG did not break FFP and nobody is touching them because they are big and have good lawyers. But you have to punish some smaller club here in there just to justify the existence and pay checks.

If you ask me I believe half of the clubs in every big league is guilty and could be charged with something with exception of Bundesliga maybe. Seems like Germans learned their lesson and now have the league and clubs on healthy foundations.

Chelsea breached the UEFA FFP rules, for which they were charged and have now been cleared. This is not the same as Eveton breaching Premier League rules with their stadium funding.

Chelsea has not been found to have violated any Premier League rules. City 115 PL charges should be given more attention..

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Quote from: casperBGD on November 18, 2023, 09:09:40 AM

Quote from: cryptofrka on November 18, 2023, 05:42:55 AM

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I'm really interested to see what happens with City now - and what will happen with Chelsea down the line.
City has been charged with 115 breaches earlier this season.

they knew how to word it, and it does not effect City or Chelsea case
basically, Everton is punished for overspending 19,7 milion on new Stadium facility, not on players

since City and Chelsea only bought players, their cases are now different Wink

FFP is a joke and every case just confirms it. No way Chelsea, City, Barca and PSG did not break FFP and nobody is touching them because they are big and have good lawyers. But you have to punish some smaller club here in there just to justify the existence and pay checks.

If you ask me I believe half of the clubs in every big league is guilty and could be charged with something with exception of Bundesliga maybe. Seems like Germans learned their lesson and now have the league and clubs on healthy foundations.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 18, 2023, 05:42:55 AM

~snip
I'm really interested to see what happens with City now - and what will happen with Chelsea down the line.
City has been charged with 115 breaches earlier this season.

they knew how to word it, and it does not effect City or Chelsea case
basically, Everton is punished for overspending 19,7 milion on new Stadium facility, not on players

since City and Chelsea only bought players, their cases are now different Wink

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Huge penalty for Everton, but there's actually a golden line for them here - it came in a season in which they actually have a chance to survive even with the deduction. Also - Everton will challenge the decision and the penalty will probably be lowered.

I'm really interested to see what happens with City now - and what will happen with Chelsea down the line.
City has been charged with 115 breaches earlier this season.

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Quote from: casperBGD on November 17, 2023, 04:32:44 PM

it is official, 10 point deduction and back to relegation zone for Everton
at least not on bottom, due to good form in last few rounds

does seem that punishment for Everton is far away from City ruling, but it is what it is, EPL want Everton in Championship, it is on the team to get enough points to stay

Wow. It really happened, feel bad for them but luckily they have been getting those points, while all the promoted teams are on track to be the worst ever in terms of points collected throughout the Premier League era.

Now, why is the Man City load of cases taking so long to resolve? Great question to ask.

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Quote from: casperBGD on November 17, 2023, 04:32:44 PM

it is official, 10 point deduction and back to relegation zone for Everton
at least not on bottom, due to good form in last few rounds

does seem that punishment for Everton is far away from City ruling, but it is what it is, EPL want Everton in Championship, it is on the team to get enough points to stay

Well i dont know why only Everton got this point deduction. Man City and Chelsea should have gotten this a long time ago and they didnt,so still didnt expect this decision. First i saw they were gonna get 12 points in the end they got 10. I wonder how this will effect Evertons players in the future because they were on a good run and from nowhere they are in relegation zone.

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it is official, 10 point deduction and back to relegation zone for Everton
at least not on bottom, due to good form in last few rounds

does seem that punishment for Everton is far away from City ruling, but it is what it is, EPL want Everton in Championship, it is on the team to get enough points to stay

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Just found this now: https://swissramble.substack.com/p/european-wages-202122

Latest wage reports of the big leagues. Not really shocking, the biggest wages belong to United (I honestly expected City) but Liverpool aren't far behind, though it has to be said we signed lucrative contracts to keep Salah after paying out of the nose for VVD... it was a domino effect. It also doesn't count transfer costs so should note we got players mostly cheap, but ended up paying more to keep them (preferable to bombing on expensive players I guess).

I like the caps in American sports, I do wish there were more control in EPL. Thankfully, football is such a weird sport the highest wage spenders can still miss out on the big prizes.

Respect for Brentford. Killing it with 20% of the wages we pay.

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The PGMOL has announced that they will be releasing the audio recording of the controversial goal that handed Arsenal their first defeat against Newcastle.

I am not really excited to hear what led the refs to arrive at the decision that caused them to stick to the on field decision, it is probably them explaining and rationalizing the decision. It is not a clear and obvious error like the offside against Liverpool and is open to interpretation based on how you view the incidence.

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Yeah, most of the time I prefer my happiness above some pool points, but when it comes to money, I don't care about my club. If I bet against them, I expect them to lose, so I get paid afterall players are paid, whether they win or lose.

I doubt you are a fan LOL. You are looking for opportunity to fill your pocket with cash, such a selfish old ass 🤨

By the way, thanks to Chelsea for the draw against City. City up against Liverpool in the next round. Very tough match but if we manage to win then we will be leading the point table and the confidence from the win will drive us ahead in the later matches. I have nothing to lose in the pool, so I will go with a straight win against City.

@CLS63, you are still ahead! 😉

Club membership fees must be paid and I don't see anything wrong taking advantage of my club form to fill my pocket from bookies. Grin

some of these players also bet against their own team. Ask Toney.

The best way to play Manchester City is to dominate the midfield and break the link between Halaand and the midfield. Do Liverpool have what it takes to dominate City's midfield in the same way as Chelsea did?

Here I agreed with @Igebotz now it's Jürgen Klopp turn to stop Manchester City as Chelsea done because if they are able to stop Haaland then surely they can manage to have positive end of their match as well which will help them for having good chance for the title as well even still its very long way to go, but now things are turning into good way for the top three teams.
After worst Saturday I have some good results on Super Sunday with some ranks also jump, hopefully before new year I will catch into top 10 which could be good for the rest of the season to have good end of this season.

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