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Also All England players are overrated due to Premier League quality and rule that PL clubs have to have certain amount of English players.
Overated and lazy by default. Agreed.

Agree most of them are lazier than when they play club football, but I think, on evidence of what I see, at least Saka plays his heart out for club and country. That's kinda why I liked him a lot. But overall, they do suffer from being hugely overrated. I rarely enjoy watching England play, it's just not exciting stuff.

Do think that Southgate has reduced a lot of the club rivalry that got in the way of previous iterations, though.

Maybe I might not totally agree with Trofo's and Igebotz's assertion of all England players being overrated probably due to the exposure and quality of the league in general, I would say there are world class players spread all over the premier league but perhaps at different teams, but then I would say the major problem is the coach and players selection process, Southgate have a general stupid way of players selection and the fact that certain players almost have a guaranteed spot in the team because of the club they play in and that makes them lazy enough, I agree and secondly, Southgate is the most non-innovative national coach of the 21st century that I know, he literally just stick to what positions or role these players take up in their respective clubs then copy paste it to represent the national team, without due diligence or any form of competitive selection. There is at least one player from England in any tactical position right now that would walk right into any starting XI or prove a strong competition for any player in similar position in any team in the world right now regardless of where they rank in the world.
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As I'm typing Netherlands ties the game, unpredictable is an understatement. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Well well well.....Croatia is up currently, that fight of the smaller Nation is fierce. Grin Grin Grin
this is good news for me  Grin as I had the Netherlands to go through and both teams to score - No, honestly I love this outcome knowing very well my opponent was going to get green here should the Netherlands have won but now we all settle for no point Tongue.

Talking of the smaller nations fight, am looking at the question 9 column of the BSL spreadsheet, its pretty much clear that this result is an upset as most of us expected them to get into the finals, but guess football keeps showing us how unpredictable it can be at times...

Can the Netherlands pull a comeback in the dying minutes of the game, I doubt it...6 minutes of added time to go.

I was here thinking the same as far as question 9 too bro, thats gonna mess up a whole lot. Grin Grin Grin Grin

But that's the genius of the league and the competition.
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Well well well.....Croatia is up currently, that fight of the smaller Nation is fierce. Grin Grin Grin
this is good news for me  Grin as I had the Netherlands to go through and both teams to score - No, honestly I love this outcome knowing very well my rival (mv1986) was going to get green here should the Netherlands have won but now we all settle for no point Tongue.

Talking of the smaller nations fight, am looking at the question 9 column of the BSL spreadsheet, its pretty much clear that this result is an upset as most of us expected them to get into the finals, but guess football keeps showing us how unpredictable it can be at times...

Can the Netherlands pull a comeback in the dying minutes of the game, I doubt it...6 minutes of added time to go.
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Well well well.....Croatia is up currently, that fight of the smaller Nation is fierce. Grin Grin Grin
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One would think that since we are a small country with less than 4 mlillion people we generally don't expect much from our players and national team, but reality is quite different.


this is so true, and I can resonate with that

we are also small country, but (in any sport, not just football for the matter) getting qualified for WC, or even getting to later stages of the competitions is taken as a natural thing, not anything big
just when you win something (or in case of bigger sports, finals/medals could be taken in consideration), that is seen as an achievement, all the other results would be just forgotten
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You sort of need, to create an English national team that's nice to watch and makes use of their attacking talent, a coach that makes your team feel like you're fighting for your life, and blood and fire, and all that. I would actually really like someone like Simeone to make the team feel like it's them vs the rest of the world, to play with brutal physicality, but with an attacking mentality, of say, France.

What England need is Mourinho to restore the team's winning attitude, which Simeone cannot give. Nothing would change unless they stopped recruiting indigenous coaches. This English coaches are so average

One would think that since we are a small country with less than 4 mlillion people we generally don't expect much from our players and national team, but reality is quite different.

What's the land scale? 4M is the average number of my State population and we are not even top3 populated state.
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Lol, now it would be funny if you guys knew how I was scrolling through the past Vegas Knights results and thought, well, they do have games here and there when they score 5 or more, but this game is so important and the Panthers will resist, could very likely end in a 4:2. But a 9:3 I can't even recall I saw a result like that when I checked the results of their last season games.

But whatever, @Woodie and I agreed on this one so no points for anyone Wink

But we have a number of different answers @Woodie, which makes it quite interesting. Hopefully not another draw for me again.

Good luck!
Unbelievable result to be honest,  especially that the previous 2 games were low scoring I was more than sure this trend would continue...a but seems  Vegas Knights had different plans for game 5 to end the Panthers fight of a comeback.

Good thing you chose the same result as me, that was a close one...off to the Nations cup and hoping to have better luck here Wink

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You finished the round 1 with 1 point. You are nowhere near the bonus rewards Grin
I remember you explaining how bonus rewards are calculated to me somewhere here on the thread, maybe this should be include in the first page for everyone to get clarity and help everyone know if they they won a freebet.
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Croatia, Belgium, they play with much more national pride (and without pressure probably).
While part about national pridre is true about Croatian player (I would say that's our biggest strength and definitely one of the reasons why we are so good), I am not sure about pressure thing. Unlike England, our clubs are not very important factor in Europe + our league is not very interesting so everyone basically lives for our national team games which results in a lot of pressure.

One would think that since we are a small country with less than 4 mlillion people we generally don't expect much from our players and national team, but reality is quite different.


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Also All England players are overrated due to Premier League quality and rule that PL clubs have to have certain amount of English players.
Overated and lazy by default. Agreed.

Agree most of them are lazier than when they play club football, but I think, on evidence of what I see, at least Saka plays his heart out for club and country. That's kinda why I liked him a lot. But overall, they do suffer from being hugely overrated. I rarely enjoy watching England play, it's just not exciting stuff.

Do think that Southgate has reduced a lot of the club rivalry that got in the way of previous iterations, though.

What he hasn't succeeded at, and this is why England needs to rethink managerial appointments, is to get them to play without their own delusions of grandeur. I think they take to the field thinking they're really good players. Croatia, Belgium, they play with much more national pride (and without pressure probably).

France probably suffers from this a little, lately Germany and Spain, to me anyway.

You sort of need, to create an English national team that's nice to watch and makes use of their attacking talent, a coach that makes your team feel like you're fighting for your life, and blood and fire, and all that. I would actually really like someone like Simeone to make the team feel like it's them vs the rest of the world, to play with brutal physicality, but with an attacking mentality, of say, France.

But that's an opinion of a couch strategist. Perhaps national psyche has much more to do with England results and eventual pitch performance.
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Same reason bro.

I've been wanting to ask this; why is Crotia with limited talents compared to England always doing much better than them at international level? I don't get.

I wouldn't say that Croatia has players with limited talent. Maybe the reason why England's players are considered as more talented is because they come from England whose national league is considered as one of the best. Croatian national league is trash compared to the top European leagues. Maybe that's why Croatian players are never considered as stars.

I mean limited in terms of numbers rather than qualities; the England national team has one of the greatest Unders in football and the most intriguing talents, but once they make the Senior squad, they become trash.

I would say mainly because of our mentality, always the best in important matches and against top opponents plus world class midfield. Not many teams in the world had anything close to Raktić, Modrić, Brozović and Kovačić. That is also England's biggest problem, they have one world class striker in Kane, shitload of world class wingers and nothing in the midfield.

I believe club rivalry is still hurting the England national team, as players usually prioritise their club team mates over others, as happened throughout the eras of Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Rooney, Cole, Terry, and Ferdinand (best era without a trophy), and I believe it is still occurring. .

Also All England players are overrated due to Premier League quality and rule that PL clubs have to have certain amount of English players.
Overated and lazy by default. Agreed.
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Yay I won, against Renato,,, But now I have a scary fellow in front of me,,, I wish you great luck TROFO. You need it because I am gonna put in my answers now  Cool

we faced each other again, but now in division 2, you were the best this 1st round, congrats.

Let us see if we can make it into Division 1,,, I was actually lucky mostly. Cheesy

Good luck to you,,, I need it this time, I just saw I put in a missing answer for the F1 question, I was so sure I put all picks in but now the chances is high I gave Trofo a free point  Grin
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You finished the round 1 with 1 point. You are nowhere near the bonus rewards Grin
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Wow! Most of you went with Netherlands to qualify for the finals. Being from Croatia I couldn't help myself to go with Croatia.

from my point of view, Netherlands are favorite in this duel as hosts, if it is played in Croatia, I would go with Croatia, match can go either way, but being host is a solid advantage
nevertheless, Italy and Spain should be a better duel, but these are glorified friendlies after all, and motivation is questioned, although Italy is motivated by missing WC, and Spain by lousy result on WC, so I decided to go with them for Finals/3rd place

Netherlands changed coach, but I don't see their QF as bad result, so Final should be a good compensation

kudos to Vegas, didn't expect 9 goals from them, win certainly
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For the driver match-up, for example, without mentioning the names, there's one pair where the favourite odds-wise is huge, but performance wise, he's only beaten the guy once (when they both finished). For me it makes much more sense to bet on the underdog here given H2H this season he has an equal performance. But I must learn not to pick that underdog for this BSFL format, I believe that was my mistake last season, giving away points on big underdog.

Heheh, glad to see someone is actually trying to find mini-traps that we insert on occasions Grin

It's time to announce the freebet winners.
Not much excitement there to be honest, quite a lot of draws so most of it will be settled this week.

Div 1 - darxiaomi and Harkorede have a H2H duel in Round 2 for 40$ freebet
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Same reason bro.

I've been wanting to ask this; why is Crotia with limited talents compared to England always doing much better than them at international level? I don't get.

I wouldn't say that Croatia has players with limited talent. Maybe the reason why England's players are considered as more talented is because they come from England whose national league is considered as one of the best. Croatian national league is trash compared to the top European leagues. Maybe that's why Croatian players are never considered as stars. But majority of our national team players play in the top 5 European leagues and most of them are standard players in their clubs.

Additionally the Croatian mentality is a funny thing. One time they are all the best players and then one bad game happens and all national team members are trash. But I think that our mentality is one of the reasons why we usually play best against the strongest teams.
I would say mainly because of our mentality, always the best in important matches and against top opponents plus world class midfield. Not many teams in the world had anything close to Raktić, Modrić, Brozović and Kovačić. That is also England's biggest problem, they have one world class striker in Kane, shitload of world class wingers and nothing in the midfield. All their midfielders are just mediocre defensive players like Henderson and Philips, Mount and Maddison have some creativity when they get a chance but I would take any of our guys before them. Things could change for the better for England with Belingham now, he is the link they were missing lately.

Also All England players are overrated due to Premier League quality and rule that PL clubs have to have certain amount of English players. There is not enough of them going around and if you are young promising English player your price is by default 5x of same qoulity some other nationality player.
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Same reason bro.

I've been wanting to ask this; why is Crotia with limited talents compared to England always doing much better than them at international level? I don't get.

I wouldn't say that Croatia has players with limited talent. Maybe the reason why England's players are considered as more talented is because they come from England whose national league is considered as one of the best. Croatian national league is trash compared to the top European leagues. Maybe that's why Croatian players are never considered as stars. But majority of our national team players play in the top 5 European leagues and most of them are standard players in their clubs.

Additionally the Croatian mentality is a funny thing. One time they are all the best players and then one bad game happens and all national team members are trash. But I think that our mentality is one of the reasons why we usually play best against the strongest teams.
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Now I can talk about it so here it goes. We (Croatia) after getting good result have mentality of we are the best in the world result will come by itself and play like shit.

The Super Eagles of Nigeria have the most exciting blavk talent in Europe doing well at club levels, join together at the national level, go into every game with great confidence, and dump shit when you least expect it. Same vibes

The Crotia National team players didn't have much of a chotic season at the club level this season, so I'm hoping to see a full roster at least because this isn't a friendly game. I'm not sure if I chose them at the wrong time or if I'm just being fanatic.

really hope that we will win today so that we get silver at worst just because it might be the last competition with Modrić in the national team.

Same reason bro.

I've been wanting to ask this; why is Crotia with limited talents compared to England always doing much better than them at international level? I don't get.
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BTW, I believe Croatia is better than Netherlands. Last World Cup Netherlands played like shit, too. Gakpo saved them it's all. The only reason I picked them though is Croatia's 2 best players in my opinion is either not going to play, or missing a lot of form since WC. Real Madrid suffered the most IMO.

I think that the Netherlands team doesn't really suit us. They play fast and aggressive, we will probably control the midfield but that won't be the area where the ball will be.
They will overload our flanks and won't let us calmly build while in possession, and it remains to be seen how much will Modrić and Brozović even play after excruciating seasons that they had.

I do feel we're better than Italy though, who I expect to lose against Spain. I put us in the 3rd spot, but I have to say that neither of these teams really stand out at this point in time. Italy's by far the worst though.
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I am trying a new tactic this season, by not checking the spreadsheet this results. I know there's no meaning in the tactic but last season I checked almost every day and jinxed myself even when calculating that I won.

So the funny thing is I don't actually remember all my answers lol but anyway, it's rare to get a non football/tennis game as a first points decider.

BTW, I believe Croatia is better than Netherlands. Last World Cup Netherlands played like shit, too. Gakpo saved them it's all. The only reason I picked them though is Croatia's 2 best players in my opinion is either not going to play, or missing a lot of form since WC. Real Madrid suffered the most IMO.
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